However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just
technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my
template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people use
the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I
really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the
template listed as an extension.
I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was
published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users
admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent
Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs
open.
Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would
like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not?
and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response
from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying
of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the
site with the reason "template".
I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but
perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"?
There is only about 10 in existence after all...
Regards,
Andy
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The JED doesn't cater for templates so there is nothing we can do
about it here. Some people in the past have show interest in creating
a "template version" of the JED but so far nothing has come to
fruition. Discussion on that, or your own template should happen on
the "General" development group, not this one (but please choose
better title next time).
> However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just
> technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my
> template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people use
> the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I
> really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the
> template listed as an extension.
> I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was
> published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users
> admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent
> Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs
> open.
> Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would
> like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not?
> and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response
> from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying
> of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the
> site with the reason "template".
> I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but
> perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"?
> There is only about 10 in existence after all...
> Regards,
> Andy
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There are other Administrator Templates on JED, they have listed these
for about a year now. The best way to handle questions about JED is to
contact that team using their support forum.
> However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just
> technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my
> template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people use
> the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I
> really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the
> template listed as an extension.
> I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was
> published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users
> admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent
> Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs
> open.
> Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would
> like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not?
> and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response
> from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying
> of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the
> site with the reason "template".
> I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but
> perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"?
> There is only about 10 in existence after all...
> Regards,
> Andy
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There is no template category listed in the JED. There are admin
modules and components packages that come bundled with a template such
as Adminpraise Lite from from Joomlapraise which is a panel package
including modules, a plugin and a bundled template.
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/administration/admin-navigati...
On Apr 16, 9:59 pm, Amy Stephen <amystep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are other Administrator Templates on JED, they have listed these
> for about a year now. The best way to handle questions about JED is to
> contact that team using their support forum.
> > However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just
> > technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my
> > template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people use
> > the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I
> > really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the
> > template listed as an extension.
> > I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was
> > published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users
> > admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent
> > Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs
> > open.
> > Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would
> > like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not?
> > and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response
> > from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying
> > of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the
> > site with the reason "template".
> > I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but
> > perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"?
> > There is only about 10 in existence after all...
> > Regards,
> > Andy
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The problem is that the submission process is flawed. The rules for submitting admin. templates are unclear as they are not stated anywhere. There is a consensus that the JED doesn't accept admin templates that only change look and feel (regardless of the fact that is what a template is for) yet I can't find that rule written anywhere. How can you develop according to unwritten rules?
Yet in that category there are admin templates that merely do only that - no extra functionality provided, just changes to look and feel. If there are going to be rules then they need to be clear, transparent, correctly applied, consistently applied and available to developers so that they don't waste their time developing something the JED will arbitrarily cancel or delete. Submitting to the JED can be a frustrating process, they don't even look at your submission if it contains the slightest submission error, each correction can take days to respond to and in the end they may reject your submission based on rules that are written nor published. That leads to frustration and abandonment of the JED, I do not develop for a platform where my submissions can be rejected out of hand with no appeal nor even a response from the team.
On Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:17:16 PM UTC+1, Jennifer Marriott wrote:
> There is no template category listed in the JED. There are admin > modules and components packages that come bundled with a template such > as Adminpraise Lite from from Joomlapraise which is a panel package > including modules, a plugin and a bundled template.
> On Apr 16, 9:59 pm, Amy Stephen wrote: > > Andy -
> > There are other Administrator Templates on JED, they have listed these > > for about a year now. The best way to handle questions about JED is to > > contact that team using their support forum.
> > Here's a link to that resourcehttp:// > forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=262&sid=9926844d9c7fa071176ec...
> > I'm guessing it was mistaken to be a regular template. As Andrew said, > > those are not listed on JED.
> > Amy
> > On Apr 16, 1:48 pm, udjamaflip wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I recently had my template approved as an extension in > > > extensions.joomla.org under the following URL:
> > > However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just > > > technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my > > > template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people use > > > the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I > > > really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the > > > template listed as an extension.
> > > I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was > > > published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users > > > admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent > > > Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs > > > open.
> > > Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would > > > like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not? > > > and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response > > > from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying > > > of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the > > > site with the reason "template".
> > > I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but > > > perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"? > > > There is only about 10 in existence after all...
> The problem is that the submission process is flawed. The rules for > submitting admin. templates are unclear as they are not stated anywhere. > There is a consensus that the JED doesn't accept admin templates that only > change look and feel (regardless of the fact that is what a template is > for) yet I can't find that rule written anywhere. How can you develop > according to unwritten rules?
> Yet in that category there are admin templates that merely do only that - > no extra functionality provided, just changes to look and feel. If there > are going to be rules then they need to be clear, transparent, correctly > applied, consistently applied and available to developers so that they > don't waste their time developing something the JED will arbitrarily cancel > or delete. Submitting to the JED can be a frustrating process, they don't > even look at your submission if it contains the slightest submission error, > each correction can take days to respond to and in the end they may reject > your submission based on rules that are written nor published. That leads > to frustration and abandonment of the JED, I do not develop for a platform > where my submissions can be rejected out of hand with no appeal nor even a > response from the team.
> On Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:17:16 PM UTC+1, Jennifer Marriott wrote:
>> There is no template category listed in the JED. There are admin >> modules and components packages that come bundled with a template such >> as Adminpraise Lite from from Joomlapraise which is a panel package >> including modules, a plugin and a bundled template.
>> On Apr 16, 9:59 pm, Amy Stephen wrote: >> > Andy -
>> > There are other Administrator Templates on JED, they have listed these >> > for about a year now. The best way to handle questions about JED is to >> > contact that team using their support forum.
>> > Here's a link to that resourcehttp:// >> forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=262&sid=9926844d9c7fa071176ec...
>> > I'm guessing it was mistaken to be a regular template. As Andrew said, >> > those are not listed on JED.
>> > Amy
>> > On Apr 16, 1:48 pm, udjamaflip wrote:
>> > > Hi guys,
>> > > I recently had my template approved as an extension in >> > > extensions.joomla.org under the following URL:
>> > > However, you can see it has now been "unpublished" as it's just >> > > technically a template, however, I argue to the JED team that my >> > > template is an extension, and completely revolutionises how people >> use >> > > the Joomla! cms. I know JED are just following protocol, but do I >> > > really have to package in some useless module or plugin to make the >> > > template listed as an extension.
>> > > I have had amazing reviews, and the short time the template was >> > > published has 6 glowing ratings! I know this isn't a beginner users >> > > admin template, however, it has become very popular with consistent >> > > Joomla users who love the ability to multi-task without 10's of tabs >> > > open.
>> > > Partly from my post I am looking for support from people who would >> > > like the template to be listed under the extensions, or indeed not? >> > > and am I the only person who thinks this? Also an official response >> > > from the JED would be nice as they didn't send me an email notifying >> > > of the unpublished status (or reason) they just unpublished from the >> > > site with the reason "template".
>> > > I know this probably isn't entirely the rite place to post this, but >> > > perhaps the extensions lib is missing a category? "Admin templating"? >> > > There is only about 10 in existence after all...
Well I tried that a while ago to little avail. Moreover, this comment exists, I didn't create it - so this is as good place as any to air some views - Frankly, I am not expecting them to be listened to by the JED team. It is nice just to give vent to some small grievances but more importantly to let people hear this is how it is.
