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From: Dr. Avraham Ben-Rahamiël Qanaï <aqa...@facsl.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:42:01 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 20 2009 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Jewish Languages] Re: names
Daniel, Zangevil [ginger] is not Biblical, but it is Talmudic (8-9 years before the development of Yiddish). It occurs in Talmud Bavli Yoma 81b and Berakhot 36b and is derived from the Greek ζιγγιβερις (cf. the Arabic زنجبيل ). Again, I did not say the name was derived from Zangevil, but that it is possible that the name Zanwil/Zanvil was confused with the word Zangevil due to a similarity in pronunciation, giving rise to the pronunciation Zangwill/Zangvil, At 11:48 AM 04/20/2009, you wrote: Daniel, I didn’t say there was a linguistic or historical connection between the words, but, rather, that it is possible that the pronunciation of Zanwil as Zangwil may derive from CONFUSION of the name with the Hebrew/Aramaic word Zangevil [ginger]. Just like the term Bove Mayse (the Yiddish romance of the medieval knight Bova d’Antona [Bevis of Hampton]) became Bobe Mayse (grandmother’s tale) due to the confusion of the name Bova [Bevis] with the Eastern Yiddish word Bobe [grandmother]. Avraham The Hebrew word is not Biblical. It is probably from the Latin. Zanvil was a name before zangwell became a Hebrew word. DS Daniel Stuhlman You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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