Unequally Yoked
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Mathew Enoch Mount
Oct 21, 2009, 4:45:16 AM10/21/09
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Hello,
The following message may appear to be a little lengthy, but the
reason why is because the subject is one of the most critical that I
have found that most people ignore, do not understand, or find it to
be to hard of a teaching to believe in that they water it down a lot.
Scripture is very clear about the subject, and if you understand the
message then you may find that you may also have a lot of insight into
how we are to intercede as a kingdom of priests, what the mark of the
beast is, and also the desires of evil to defile us as well as the
desires of the saints to bring us as children of God into greater
communion with God. Overall, hopefully my message will not burden
anyone in its length as I did not want to make it any shorter because
if I did then the meaning of context would be greatly lost.
Notice that the scripture talks about how we are not to be yoked with
unbelievers. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can
light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and
Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What
agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are
the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them
and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my
people." "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the
Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." "I will be a
Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord
Almighty." 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (NIV) Many people take this just to
mean that we should not marry people whom do not believe in the birth,
death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, but upon careful examination
of the text we find that we should not even enter into employment by
being yoked with people whom do not believe (this is a very counter
secular pluralistic sort of stance that most politicians in the United
States would be quick to show their disapproval of).
Consider the following as the bulk of the text that Saint Paul is
commenting on, "If you see your brother's ox or sheep straying, do not
ignore it but be sure to take it back to him. If the brother does not
live near you or if you do not know who he is, take it home with you
and keep it until he comes looking for it. Then give it back to him.
Do the same if you find your brother's donkey or his cloak or anything
he loses. Do not ignore it. If you see your brother's donkey or his
ox fallen on the road, do not ignore it. Help him get it to its feet.
A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing,
for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this. If you come
across a bird's nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the
ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not
take the mother with the young. You may take the young, but be sure
to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have
a long life. When you build a new house, make a parapet around your
roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if
someone falls from the roof. Do not plant two kinds of seed in your
vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit
of the vineyard will be defiled. Do not plow with an ox and a donkey
yoked together. Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven
together. Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear.
Deuteronomy 22:1-12 (NIV) Overall, one of the reasons why people take
the commandment not to be yoked with an unbeliever as referring to
marriage only is because Deuteronomy continues the chapter with law
regarding marital unfaithfulness, but the message is clear that God
strongly opposes his creation to be defiled through us imposing our
own will onto creation in such a way that it opposes his will. The
message is clear that God made a donkey to be a donkey and he made a
ox to be a ox, and God becomes enraged when we add a donkey with a ox
and yoke them together because they have different purposes and we
should not impose our will to use things as we see fit when that will
is against the very purpose that God has for creation such as the
purpose that he has for a ox and the purpose that he has for a
donkey.
Consider how in his age Lot sat at the gate of Sodom perhaps as an
evangelist, and he recognized the angles of the lord as he took them
into his protection while the rest of the city did not share the faith
of Lot and they became strongly desiring of Lot’s guests for purposes
of defiling them. "The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening,
and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he
got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My
lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can
wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in
the morning." "No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the
square." But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and
entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without
yeast, and they ate. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from
every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the
house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them. Lot
went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No,
my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters
who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and
you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these
men, for they have come under the protection of my roof." "Get out of
our way," they replied. And they said, "This fellow came here as an
alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than
them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break
down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back
into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were
at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they
could not find the door." Genesis 19:1-11 (NIV) What happened is
that when Lot took angles of God into his house, then the entire
community that was full of fallen angles came to the house eagerly
desiring to defile them (I know from personal life experience that
this pattern of events that happened with the angels can and will
happen to anyone whom is a lamp that does not let their light shine or
holds the light back from shining). The fact that the angels struck
the men at the door with blindness tells us that they may have
revealed their glory or unveiled their light onto the fallen sort of
like what happened when Saint Paul was blinded, but the difference is
that in the case of Sodom the fallen remained fallen whereas when
Saint Paul saw the light be believed and was saved because the light
entered him.
Consider another case that is similar. "In those days Israel had no
king. Now a Levite who lived in a remote area in the hill country of
Ephraim took a concubine from Bethlehem in Judah. But she was
unfaithful to him. She left him and went back to her father's house in
Bethlehem, Judah. After she had been there four months, her husband
went to her to persuade her to return. He had with him his servant
and two donkeys. She took him into her father's house, and when her
father saw him, he gladly welcomed him. His father-in-law, the girl's
father, prevailed upon him to stay; so he remained with him three
days, eating and drinking, and sleeping there. On the fourth day they
got up early and he prepared to leave, but the girl's father said to
his son-in-law, "Refresh yourself with something to eat; then you can
go." So the two of them sat down to eat and drink together. Afterward
the girl's father said, "Please stay tonight and enjoy yourself." And
when the man got up to go, his father-in-law persuaded him, so he
stayed there that night. On the morning of the fifth day, when he
rose to go, the girl's father said, "Refresh yourself. Wait till
afternoon!" So the two of them ate together. Then when the man, with
his concubine and his servant, got up to leave, his father-in-law, the
girl's father, said, "Now look, it's almost evening. Spend the night
here; the day is nearly over. Stay and enjoy yourself. Early
tomorrow morning you can get up and be on your way home." But,
unwilling to stay another night, the man left and went toward Jebus
(that is, Jerusalem), with his two saddled donkeys and his concubine.
When they were near Jebus and the day was almost gone, the servant
said to his master, "Come, let's stop at this city of the Jebusites
and spend the night." His master replied, "No. We won't go into an
alien city, whose people are not Israelites. We will go on to
Gibeah." He added, "Come, let's try to reach Gibeah or Ramah and
spend the night in one of those places." So they went on, and the sun
set as they neared Gibeah in Benjamin. There they stopped to spend
the night. They went and sat in the city square, but no one took them
into his home for the night. That evening an old man from the hill
country of Ephraim, who was living in Gibeah (the men of the place
were Benjamites), came in from his work in the fields. When he looked
and saw the traveler in the city square, the old man asked, "Where are
you going? Where did you come from?" He answered, "We are on our way
from Bethlehem in Judah to a remote area in the hill country of
Ephraim where I live. I have been to Bethlehem in Judah and now I am
going to the house of the LORD. No one has taken me into his house.
We have both straw and fodder for our donkeys and bread and wine for
ourselves your servants—me, your maidservant, and the young man with
us. We don't need anything." "You are welcome at my house," the old
man said. "Let me supply whatever you need. Only don't spend the night
in the square." So he took him into his house and fed his donkeys.
After they had washed their feet, they had something to eat and
drink. While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to
the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your
house so we can have sex with him." The owner of the house went
outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since
this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. Look, here is
my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you
now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to
this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing." But the men would not
listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to
them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at
dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house
where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there
until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the
door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay
his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on
the threshold. He said to her, "Get up; let's go." But there was no
answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.
When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb
by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of
Israel. Everyone who saw it said, "Such a thing has never been seen
or done, not since the day the Israelites came up out of Egypt. Think
about it! Consider it! Tell us what to do!" Judges 19:1-30 (NIV) The
Levite in this story was like the shepherd going out of his way to get
the lost sheep when he reclaimed his concubine, and the fact that he
come out of Bethlehem with her to go to the house of the lord (the
temple) sends us a prophetic message regarding the earthly ministry of
Christ. This concubine that the Levite had he might not have been
married to but the Levite was a priest like Lot would have been, and
the message that we could receive is that when Christ goes out as High
Priest to gather in the lost sheep it becomes the sheep that the
Shepherd loves the most thus it is that sheep that all the devils
desire to defile the most (note however that it is the work of the
Holy Ghost to gather those whom are going to be saved). Overall, what
resulted from the defilement of Israel was a civil war so terrible
that an entire tribe almost got wiped out completely, and all the
other tribes after the war had ended became forbidden to marry a
Benjamite.
The message that we get is that because of the defilement being so bad
in the tribe of Benjame they had to be destroyed leaving only a
remnant. The reason why civil war broke out is because no one from
the tribe of Benjame could be found to make justice occur and the
elders of the tribe failed to even come together with the elders from
all the other tribes to make things right. In other words because no
one could establish justice in Benjame thus all the other tribes had
to fight Benjame to destroy the defilement and to install justice once
again in order that the entire nation would be established in justice
so that defilement would not spread. Overall, what happened to
Benjame also happened to Jerusalem sometime after the crucifixion of
Jesus Christ and it will also happen at the end of time.
Consider what scripture says about the primary root cause for why
defilement occurs. "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven
against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the
truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain
to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the
creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and
divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has
been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew
God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but
their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the
glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and
birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the
sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of
their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a
lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—
who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for
unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural
relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men
committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the
due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not
think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over
to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They
are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are
gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they
invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are
senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's
righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not
only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who
practice them. Romans 1:18-32 (NIV) All across the world you may
find this defilement spreading again as secular government is imposing
laws that require these kinds of people whom seek to defile us to be
yoked with believers as this is considered a practice implemented for
the sake of causing us to put aside our differences and join together
in brotherly love while we are to overlook the desires of our
neighbors to defile us. The problem is that we are put in the
incredible position of being intercessors as a kingdom of priests over
all the earth while at the same time all the devils would like to
surround our house and defile us like in the case of Lot. Having said
this we must always carry with us the light of Jesus Christ regardless
of how politically incorrect it is because if we don’t then that is
the time that all the devils of the darkness creep in and seek to
defile us. (like in the crucifixion of Christ) When the birth, death,
and resurrection of Jesus Christ as well as his blood atonement
becomes a part of all that we do on this earth, then the light of
Jesus Christ that has entered us shines through us and protects us
from evil by clearing away the darkness (thus clearing away the
devils).
Consider the following scripture, "Awake, awake, O Zion, clothe
yourself with strength. Put on your garments of splendor, O
Jerusalem, the holy city. The uncircumcised and defiled will not
enter you again. Shake off your dust; rise up, sit enthroned, O
Jerusalem. Free yourself from the chains on your neck, O captive
Daughter of Zion. For this is what the LORD says: "You were sold for
nothing, and without money you will be redeemed." For this is what
the Sovereign LORD says: "At first my people went down to Egypt to
live; lately, Assyria has oppressed them. "And now what do I have
here?" declares the LORD. "For my people have been taken away for
nothing, and those who rule them mock, "declares the LORD." And all
day long my name is constantly blasphemed. Therefore my people will
know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who
foretold it. Yes, it is I. "How beautiful on the mountains are the
feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good
tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!"
Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices; together they shout for
joy. When the LORD returns to Zion, they will see it with their own
eyes. Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem, for
the LORD has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem. The
LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and
all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God. Depart,
depart, go out from there! Touch no unclean thing! Come out from it
and be pure, you who carry the vessels of the LORD. But you will not
leave in haste or go in flight; for the LORD will go before you, the
God of Israel will be your rear guard. The Suffering and Glory of the
Servant See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted
up and highly exalted. Just as there were many who were appalled at
him—his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his
form marred beyond human likeness— so will he sprinkle many nations,
and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were
not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will
understand. Isaiah 52:1-15 (NIV) Overall, we can see God’s plan to
redeem Jerusalem working through Isaiah’s message, and that plan
involves both God’s work in us now and his ultimate destiny for
Jerusalem as the New Jerusalem (this one section of scripture really
brings together my message in such a way that I could not say it any
clearer).
Consider the following scripture, "'You say, "We want to be like the
nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone."
But what you have in mind will never happen. As surely as I live,
declares the Sovereign LORD, I will rule over you with a mighty hand
and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath. I will bring you
from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been
scattered—with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with
outpoured wrath. I will bring you into the desert of the nations and
there, face to face, I will execute judgment upon you. As I judged
your fathers in the desert of the land of Egypt, so I will judge you,
declares the Sovereign LORD. I will take note of you as you pass
under my rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant. I
will purge you of those who revolt and rebel against me. Although I
will bring them out of the land where they are living, yet they will
not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD."
'As for you, O house of Israel, this is what the Sovereign LORD says:
Go and serve your idols, every one of you! But afterward you will
surely listen to me and no longer profane my holy name with your gifts
and idols. For on my holy mountain, the high mountain of Israel,
declares the Sovereign LORD, there in the land the entire house of
Israel will serve me, and there I will accept them. There I will
require your offerings and your choice gifts, along with all your holy
sacrifices. I will accept you as fragrant incense when I bring you
out from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have
been scattered, and I will show myself holy among you in the sight of
the nations. Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I bring you
into the land of Israel, the land I had sworn with uplifted hand to
give to your fathers. There you will remember your conduct and all
the actions by which you have defiled yourselves, and you will loathe
yourselves for all the evil you have done. You will know that I am
the LORD, when I deal with you for my name's sake and not according to
your evil ways and your corrupt practices, O house of Israel, declares
the Sovereign LORD.' " Ezekiel 20:32-44 (NIV) Overall, the message
of defilement and purification is clear, and we are to be a kingdom of
priests that intercede for one another with our spiritual gifts so as
to build up the body of Christ until the day comes when God will
permanently make Jerusalem un-penetrable to any darkness such that it
is forever glorified.
Lastly consider how Saint Paul opens his last letter that he ever
wrote in the scripture, "I long to see you so that I may impart to you
some spiritual gift to make you strong— that is, that you and I may be
mutually encouraged by each other's faith. Romans 1:11-12 (NIV) The
point is that Saint Paul was all about intercession, but he was also
very much in favor of receiving what God would give him through the
intercession of others as well. Overall, having said this the
believers in Rome built up the body of Christ like a fire that is
burning such that the darkness got pushed further and further back;
moreover, this shows us a picture of how the New Jerusalem will be
established forever.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
mmo...@essex1.com
The following message may appear to be a little lengthy, but the
reason why is because the subject is one of the most critical that I
have found that most people ignore, do not understand, or find it to
be to hard of a teaching to believe in that they water it down a lot.
Scripture is very clear about the subject, and if you understand the
message then you may find that you may also have a lot of insight into
how we are to intercede as a kingdom of priests, what the mark of the
beast is, and also the desires of evil to defile us as well as the
desires of the saints to bring us as children of God into greater
communion with God. Overall, hopefully my message will not burden
anyone in its length as I did not want to make it any shorter because
if I did then the meaning of context would be greatly lost.
Notice that the scripture talks about how we are not to be yoked with
unbelievers. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can
light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and
Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What
agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are
the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them
and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my
people." "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the
Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." "I will be a
Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord
Almighty." 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (NIV) Many people take this just to
mean that we should not marry people whom do not believe in the birth,
death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, but upon careful examination
of the text we find that we should not even enter into employment by
being yoked with people whom do not believe (this is a very counter
secular pluralistic sort of stance that most politicians in the United
States would be quick to show their disapproval of).
Consider the following as the bulk of the text that Saint Paul is
commenting on, "If you see your brother's ox or sheep straying, do not
ignore it but be sure to take it back to him. If the brother does not
live near you or if you do not know who he is, take it home with you
and keep it until he comes looking for it. Then give it back to him.
Do the same if you find your brother's donkey or his cloak or anything
he loses. Do not ignore it. If you see your brother's donkey or his
ox fallen on the road, do not ignore it. Help him get it to its feet.
A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing,
for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this. If you come
across a bird's nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the
ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not
take the mother with the young. You may take the young, but be sure
to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have
a long life. When you build a new house, make a parapet around your
roof so that you may not bring the guilt of bloodshed on your house if
someone falls from the roof. Do not plant two kinds of seed in your
vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit
of the vineyard will be defiled. Do not plow with an ox and a donkey
yoked together. Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven
together. Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear.
Deuteronomy 22:1-12 (NIV) Overall, one of the reasons why people take
the commandment not to be yoked with an unbeliever as referring to
marriage only is because Deuteronomy continues the chapter with law
regarding marital unfaithfulness, but the message is clear that God
strongly opposes his creation to be defiled through us imposing our
own will onto creation in such a way that it opposes his will. The
message is clear that God made a donkey to be a donkey and he made a
ox to be a ox, and God becomes enraged when we add a donkey with a ox
and yoke them together because they have different purposes and we
should not impose our will to use things as we see fit when that will
is against the very purpose that God has for creation such as the
purpose that he has for a ox and the purpose that he has for a
donkey.
Consider how in his age Lot sat at the gate of Sodom perhaps as an
evangelist, and he recognized the angles of the lord as he took them
into his protection while the rest of the city did not share the faith
of Lot and they became strongly desiring of Lot’s guests for purposes
of defiling them. "The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening,
and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he
got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My
lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can
wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in
the morning." "No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the
square." But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and
entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without
yeast, and they ate. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from
every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the
house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them. Lot
went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No,
my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters
who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and
you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these
men, for they have come under the protection of my roof." "Get out of
our way," they replied. And they said, "This fellow came here as an
alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than
them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break
down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back
into the house and shut the door. Then they struck the men who were
at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they
could not find the door." Genesis 19:1-11 (NIV) What happened is
that when Lot took angles of God into his house, then the entire
community that was full of fallen angles came to the house eagerly
desiring to defile them (I know from personal life experience that
this pattern of events that happened with the angels can and will
happen to anyone whom is a lamp that does not let their light shine or
holds the light back from shining). The fact that the angels struck
the men at the door with blindness tells us that they may have
revealed their glory or unveiled their light onto the fallen sort of
like what happened when Saint Paul was blinded, but the difference is
that in the case of Sodom the fallen remained fallen whereas when
Saint Paul saw the light be believed and was saved because the light
entered him.
Consider another case that is similar. "In those days Israel had no
king. Now a Levite who lived in a remote area in the hill country of
Ephraim took a concubine from Bethlehem in Judah. But she was
unfaithful to him. She left him and went back to her father's house in
Bethlehem, Judah. After she had been there four months, her husband
went to her to persuade her to return. He had with him his servant
and two donkeys. She took him into her father's house, and when her
father saw him, he gladly welcomed him. His father-in-law, the girl's
father, prevailed upon him to stay; so he remained with him three
days, eating and drinking, and sleeping there. On the fourth day they
got up early and he prepared to leave, but the girl's father said to
his son-in-law, "Refresh yourself with something to eat; then you can
go." So the two of them sat down to eat and drink together. Afterward
the girl's father said, "Please stay tonight and enjoy yourself." And
when the man got up to go, his father-in-law persuaded him, so he
stayed there that night. On the morning of the fifth day, when he
rose to go, the girl's father said, "Refresh yourself. Wait till
afternoon!" So the two of them ate together. Then when the man, with
his concubine and his servant, got up to leave, his father-in-law, the
girl's father, said, "Now look, it's almost evening. Spend the night
here; the day is nearly over. Stay and enjoy yourself. Early
tomorrow morning you can get up and be on your way home." But,
unwilling to stay another night, the man left and went toward Jebus
(that is, Jerusalem), with his two saddled donkeys and his concubine.
When they were near Jebus and the day was almost gone, the servant
said to his master, "Come, let's stop at this city of the Jebusites
and spend the night." His master replied, "No. We won't go into an
alien city, whose people are not Israelites. We will go on to
Gibeah." He added, "Come, let's try to reach Gibeah or Ramah and
spend the night in one of those places." So they went on, and the sun
set as they neared Gibeah in Benjamin. There they stopped to spend
the night. They went and sat in the city square, but no one took them
into his home for the night. That evening an old man from the hill
country of Ephraim, who was living in Gibeah (the men of the place
were Benjamites), came in from his work in the fields. When he looked
and saw the traveler in the city square, the old man asked, "Where are
you going? Where did you come from?" He answered, "We are on our way
from Bethlehem in Judah to a remote area in the hill country of
Ephraim where I live. I have been to Bethlehem in Judah and now I am
going to the house of the LORD. No one has taken me into his house.
We have both straw and fodder for our donkeys and bread and wine for
ourselves your servants—me, your maidservant, and the young man with
us. We don't need anything." "You are welcome at my house," the old
man said. "Let me supply whatever you need. Only don't spend the night
in the square." So he took him into his house and fed his donkeys.
After they had washed their feet, they had something to eat and
drink. While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of
the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to
the old man who owned the house, "Bring out the man who came to your
house so we can have sex with him." The owner of the house went
outside and said to them, "No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since
this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. Look, here is
my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you
now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to
this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing." But the men would not
listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to
them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at
dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house
where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there
until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the
door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay
his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on
the threshold. He said to her, "Get up; let's go." But there was no
answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.
When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb
by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of
Israel. Everyone who saw it said, "Such a thing has never been seen
or done, not since the day the Israelites came up out of Egypt. Think
about it! Consider it! Tell us what to do!" Judges 19:1-30 (NIV) The
Levite in this story was like the shepherd going out of his way to get
the lost sheep when he reclaimed his concubine, and the fact that he
come out of Bethlehem with her to go to the house of the lord (the
temple) sends us a prophetic message regarding the earthly ministry of
Christ. This concubine that the Levite had he might not have been
married to but the Levite was a priest like Lot would have been, and
the message that we could receive is that when Christ goes out as High
Priest to gather in the lost sheep it becomes the sheep that the
Shepherd loves the most thus it is that sheep that all the devils
desire to defile the most (note however that it is the work of the
Holy Ghost to gather those whom are going to be saved). Overall, what
resulted from the defilement of Israel was a civil war so terrible
that an entire tribe almost got wiped out completely, and all the
other tribes after the war had ended became forbidden to marry a
Benjamite.
The message that we get is that because of the defilement being so bad
in the tribe of Benjame they had to be destroyed leaving only a
remnant. The reason why civil war broke out is because no one from
the tribe of Benjame could be found to make justice occur and the
elders of the tribe failed to even come together with the elders from
all the other tribes to make things right. In other words because no
one could establish justice in Benjame thus all the other tribes had
to fight Benjame to destroy the defilement and to install justice once
again in order that the entire nation would be established in justice
so that defilement would not spread. Overall, what happened to
Benjame also happened to Jerusalem sometime after the crucifixion of
Jesus Christ and it will also happen at the end of time.
Consider what scripture says about the primary root cause for why
defilement occurs. "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven
against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the
truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain
to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the
creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and
divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has
been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew
God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but
their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the
glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and
birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the
sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of
their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a
lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—
who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to
shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for
unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural
relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men
committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the
due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not
think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over
to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They
are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are
gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they
invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are
senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's
righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not
only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who
practice them. Romans 1:18-32 (NIV) All across the world you may
find this defilement spreading again as secular government is imposing
laws that require these kinds of people whom seek to defile us to be
yoked with believers as this is considered a practice implemented for
the sake of causing us to put aside our differences and join together
in brotherly love while we are to overlook the desires of our
neighbors to defile us. The problem is that we are put in the
incredible position of being intercessors as a kingdom of priests over
all the earth while at the same time all the devils would like to
surround our house and defile us like in the case of Lot. Having said
this we must always carry with us the light of Jesus Christ regardless
of how politically incorrect it is because if we don’t then that is
the time that all the devils of the darkness creep in and seek to
defile us. (like in the crucifixion of Christ) When the birth, death,
and resurrection of Jesus Christ as well as his blood atonement
becomes a part of all that we do on this earth, then the light of
Jesus Christ that has entered us shines through us and protects us
from evil by clearing away the darkness (thus clearing away the
devils).
Consider the following scripture, "Awake, awake, O Zion, clothe
yourself with strength. Put on your garments of splendor, O
Jerusalem, the holy city. The uncircumcised and defiled will not
enter you again. Shake off your dust; rise up, sit enthroned, O
Jerusalem. Free yourself from the chains on your neck, O captive
Daughter of Zion. For this is what the LORD says: "You were sold for
nothing, and without money you will be redeemed." For this is what
the Sovereign LORD says: "At first my people went down to Egypt to
live; lately, Assyria has oppressed them. "And now what do I have
here?" declares the LORD. "For my people have been taken away for
nothing, and those who rule them mock, "declares the LORD." And all
day long my name is constantly blasphemed. Therefore my people will
know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who
foretold it. Yes, it is I. "How beautiful on the mountains are the
feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good
tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!"
Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices; together they shout for
joy. When the LORD returns to Zion, they will see it with their own
eyes. Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem, for
the LORD has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem. The
LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and
all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God. Depart,
depart, go out from there! Touch no unclean thing! Come out from it
and be pure, you who carry the vessels of the LORD. But you will not
leave in haste or go in flight; for the LORD will go before you, the
God of Israel will be your rear guard. The Suffering and Glory of the
Servant See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted
up and highly exalted. Just as there were many who were appalled at
him—his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his
form marred beyond human likeness— so will he sprinkle many nations,
and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were
not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will
understand. Isaiah 52:1-15 (NIV) Overall, we can see God’s plan to
redeem Jerusalem working through Isaiah’s message, and that plan
involves both God’s work in us now and his ultimate destiny for
Jerusalem as the New Jerusalem (this one section of scripture really
brings together my message in such a way that I could not say it any
clearer).
Consider the following scripture, "'You say, "We want to be like the
nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone."
But what you have in mind will never happen. As surely as I live,
declares the Sovereign LORD, I will rule over you with a mighty hand
and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath. I will bring you
from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been
scattered—with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with
outpoured wrath. I will bring you into the desert of the nations and
there, face to face, I will execute judgment upon you. As I judged
your fathers in the desert of the land of Egypt, so I will judge you,
declares the Sovereign LORD. I will take note of you as you pass
under my rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant. I
will purge you of those who revolt and rebel against me. Although I
will bring them out of the land where they are living, yet they will
not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD."
'As for you, O house of Israel, this is what the Sovereign LORD says:
Go and serve your idols, every one of you! But afterward you will
surely listen to me and no longer profane my holy name with your gifts
and idols. For on my holy mountain, the high mountain of Israel,
declares the Sovereign LORD, there in the land the entire house of
Israel will serve me, and there I will accept them. There I will
require your offerings and your choice gifts, along with all your holy
sacrifices. I will accept you as fragrant incense when I bring you
out from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have
been scattered, and I will show myself holy among you in the sight of
the nations. Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I bring you
into the land of Israel, the land I had sworn with uplifted hand to
give to your fathers. There you will remember your conduct and all
the actions by which you have defiled yourselves, and you will loathe
yourselves for all the evil you have done. You will know that I am
the LORD, when I deal with you for my name's sake and not according to
your evil ways and your corrupt practices, O house of Israel, declares
the Sovereign LORD.' " Ezekiel 20:32-44 (NIV) Overall, the message
of defilement and purification is clear, and we are to be a kingdom of
priests that intercede for one another with our spiritual gifts so as
to build up the body of Christ until the day comes when God will
permanently make Jerusalem un-penetrable to any darkness such that it
is forever glorified.
Lastly consider how Saint Paul opens his last letter that he ever
wrote in the scripture, "I long to see you so that I may impart to you
some spiritual gift to make you strong— that is, that you and I may be
mutually encouraged by each other's faith. Romans 1:11-12 (NIV) The
point is that Saint Paul was all about intercession, but he was also
very much in favor of receiving what God would give him through the
intercession of others as well. Overall, having said this the
believers in Rome built up the body of Christ like a fire that is
burning such that the darkness got pushed further and further back;
moreover, this shows us a picture of how the New Jerusalem will be
established forever.
Thank you,
Mathew Enoch Mount
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Oct 21, 2009, 1:39:53 PM10/21/09
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As you stated, there is much here to re-examine and consider when
making choices in our lives. In regards to priestly intercession in
accordance with one's gifts on the behalf of others, I believe this to
be the very definition of mission.
making choices in our lives. In regards to priestly intercession in
accordance with one's gifts on the behalf of others, I believe this to
be the very definition of mission.
1 PETER 2:9 - 21
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a
people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who
called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not
a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received
mercy, but now you have received mercy.
Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to
abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. Live such
good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing
wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he
visits us.
Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted
among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to
governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to
commend those who do right. For it is God's will that by doing good
you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men.
Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as servants of God. Show proper respect to everyone: Love the
brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.
Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only
to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are
harsh. For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of
unjust suffering because he is conscious of God.
To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you
an example, that you should follow in his steps.
--
Brother Larry Roy Woodsmall
ON EARTH MINISTRIES
Mathew Enoch Mount
Oct 21, 2009, 11:59:50 PM10/21/09
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Hello,
Yes. Something to consider is that in the time of Jesus Christ big
corporations did not exist. Products had not been shipped in from
China in huge quantities at such cheep rates that people could not
produce those same products locally. Not only that but a lot of food
was produced for people to consume freely in the public domain and an
example of this is the tree that was not baring fruit that Jesus
cursed because he wanted some of the fruit before he went into
Jerusalem.
In the time of Jesus Christ in his ministry on earth people could
freely catch fish, sell them, and eat them unlike today. In the time
of Jesus Christ in his earthly ministry plenty of people could freely
produce their own food, clothing, and shelter. Not only that but
people had freedom to worship and justice to protect that freedom, and
the only time that this was threatened is when the Israelites had
turned away from their God.
Today things are different because many so called ‘civilized western
secular’ governments around the world work diligently to secure peace
and to have people put aside their differences so to speak. The
message that comes to us from such leaders is that we are to put aside
our differences in order to work together as a team, and thus they
desire that the entire nation of people be yoked together for a common
good. Such governments thus put the yoke of slavery on the people
while imposing ungodly laws, and the result is that the entire crop is
defiled.
Many people say, "we are free and proud of our freedom", but often
such people also believe that religion is a private matter and that
everyone is entitled to their on beliefs. The Soviet Union went
through this same kind of ‘freedom’, and what resulted is that the
entire nation for the most part became atheist or unknowing of any
God. The freedom that the entire world seeks for the most part is
freedom from God, and they believe themselves to be moral and just
unlike those so called ‘Christians that did all those horrible
atrocities to each other and caused everyone to submit to their
authority.’
Jesus never charged for a healing, but today a person can easily
become sick, go to the hospital, and have tens of thousands of dollars
of medial bills (multiple visits can cost perhaps a quart of a million
dollars over time). Sometimes this money comes from tax payers and
sometimes this money comes from other workers. Much of this money
goes into paying attorneys whom may not have reverence for the Lord or
even the Holy Law, Medical Doctors whom may see themselves as gods
capable of giving or taking life, business men whom may see their own
authority in business as the only authority without any other
authority over them, and the legal suits of patients whom did not get
healed. Not only that but all these healing technologies may or may
not be credited as coming from God.
If people could count every fish in the sea through contemporary
technology and if they could count every living life form on earth in
order to keep track of it and dominate is and if they could do the
same for ideas as well, then secular government leaders perhaps would
make everything obedient to these three following rules.
These are the rules that secular democratic government leaders often
seek to implement.
1) No authority is greater than their authority or no authority is
greater than Man.
2) Everyone is entitled to their own opinion or every road leads to
salvation.
3) We should not bow to any authority other than what the majority
has established.
I do not even know how God can tolerate the above three rules. The
secular democratic governments came about because people wanted to
worship whatever they felt compelled to worship, and they also wanted
nothing ‘religious’ to govern over them. As a result God became in
the minds of the people good for personal use, but bad for being a
king that would rule over us.
Having said this the point that I would make is that the world does
not understand our God. Our God whom the Hebrew scripture testifies
to and whom we learn about personally from the birth, death, and
resurrection of Jesus Christ is the only God. The point is that
through the blood atonement of Jesus Christ we shed the ways of the
world in its futile thinking, and we take on a new nature. We take on
a nature that allows us to transform the world through the
supernatural powers of God working through us, and thus the Holy Ghost
works through us to renew and intercede for all of creation with our
spiritual gifts.
On Oct 21, 12:39 pm, ON EARTH Ministries
Yes. Something to consider is that in the time of Jesus Christ big
corporations did not exist. Products had not been shipped in from
China in huge quantities at such cheep rates that people could not
produce those same products locally. Not only that but a lot of food
was produced for people to consume freely in the public domain and an
example of this is the tree that was not baring fruit that Jesus
cursed because he wanted some of the fruit before he went into
Jerusalem.
In the time of Jesus Christ in his ministry on earth people could
freely catch fish, sell them, and eat them unlike today. In the time
of Jesus Christ in his earthly ministry plenty of people could freely
produce their own food, clothing, and shelter. Not only that but
people had freedom to worship and justice to protect that freedom, and
the only time that this was threatened is when the Israelites had
turned away from their God.
Today things are different because many so called ‘civilized western
secular’ governments around the world work diligently to secure peace
and to have people put aside their differences so to speak. The
message that comes to us from such leaders is that we are to put aside
our differences in order to work together as a team, and thus they
desire that the entire nation of people be yoked together for a common
good. Such governments thus put the yoke of slavery on the people
while imposing ungodly laws, and the result is that the entire crop is
defiled.
Many people say, "we are free and proud of our freedom", but often
such people also believe that religion is a private matter and that
everyone is entitled to their on beliefs. The Soviet Union went
through this same kind of ‘freedom’, and what resulted is that the
entire nation for the most part became atheist or unknowing of any
God. The freedom that the entire world seeks for the most part is
freedom from God, and they believe themselves to be moral and just
unlike those so called ‘Christians that did all those horrible
atrocities to each other and caused everyone to submit to their
authority.’
Jesus never charged for a healing, but today a person can easily
become sick, go to the hospital, and have tens of thousands of dollars
of medial bills (multiple visits can cost perhaps a quart of a million
dollars over time). Sometimes this money comes from tax payers and
sometimes this money comes from other workers. Much of this money
goes into paying attorneys whom may not have reverence for the Lord or
even the Holy Law, Medical Doctors whom may see themselves as gods
capable of giving or taking life, business men whom may see their own
authority in business as the only authority without any other
authority over them, and the legal suits of patients whom did not get
healed. Not only that but all these healing technologies may or may
not be credited as coming from God.
If people could count every fish in the sea through contemporary
technology and if they could count every living life form on earth in
order to keep track of it and dominate is and if they could do the
same for ideas as well, then secular government leaders perhaps would
make everything obedient to these three following rules.
These are the rules that secular democratic government leaders often
seek to implement.
1) No authority is greater than their authority or no authority is
greater than Man.
2) Everyone is entitled to their own opinion or every road leads to
salvation.
3) We should not bow to any authority other than what the majority
has established.
I do not even know how God can tolerate the above three rules. The
secular democratic governments came about because people wanted to
worship whatever they felt compelled to worship, and they also wanted
nothing ‘religious’ to govern over them. As a result God became in
the minds of the people good for personal use, but bad for being a
king that would rule over us.
Having said this the point that I would make is that the world does
not understand our God. Our God whom the Hebrew scripture testifies
to and whom we learn about personally from the birth, death, and
resurrection of Jesus Christ is the only God. The point is that
through the blood atonement of Jesus Christ we shed the ways of the
world in its futile thinking, and we take on a new nature. We take on
a nature that allows us to transform the world through the
supernatural powers of God working through us, and thus the Holy Ghost
works through us to renew and intercede for all of creation with our
spiritual gifts.
On Oct 21, 12:39 pm, ON EARTH Ministries
ON EARTH Ministries
Oct 22, 2009, 3:25:07 PM10/22/09
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Hello? Empire is empire, my friend. The Romans (western
civilization, gentiles, occupying force in the Middle East) were
importing livestock, wine, labor, olives/olive byproducts, etc., from
the occupied areas around the empire for these very same reasons. In
fact, Jesus’ base of operations, Capernaum, was on a major east/west
trade route between China and the West, so many items and materials
were already coming west from Asia. Farmers had to be encouraged by
there colloquial spiritual leaders to only make one pass through their
fields, orchards, and vineyards, instead of greedily sending
everything to market, so that the poor who weren’t lame or handicapped
could at least pick at what was left behind. The rest had to beg.
civilization, gentiles, occupying force in the Middle East) were
importing livestock, wine, labor, olives/olive byproducts, etc., from
the occupied areas around the empire for these very same reasons. In
fact, Jesus’ base of operations, Capernaum, was on a major east/west
trade route between China and the West, so many items and materials
were already coming west from Asia. Farmers had to be encouraged by
there colloquial spiritual leaders to only make one pass through their
fields, orchards, and vineyards, instead of greedily sending
everything to market, so that the poor who weren’t lame or handicapped
could at least pick at what was left behind. The rest had to beg.
Don’t you think the parable of tree that didn’t bear fruit was about
people who don’t bear fruits?
You too can “freely catch fish and sell them”, if you own a boat and
some nets. You can grow food, make your own clothes, and build your
own shelter, if you own land. The Amish continue to do it less than
50 miles from where I sit right now. In Jesus’ time, if you had no
property, or materials to earn a living you found employment with
those who did, or you begged, stole, or became indentured (slaves).
Freedom of religion? C’mon! Most Christians that were persecuted
under Roman law were charged with Atheism, because they didn’t believe
in the state-sponsored religion. Herod the Great, and the sons that he
didn’t kill off before he died, were outsiders “half-breeds”, and
weren’t even allowed to enter past the Court of the Gentiles of the
temple they had built. And Herod’s Temple had a military instillation
built right on it, so the occupying western forces could look down on
the worshipers and keep an eye on them. Local religions were
tolerated as a necessity of crowd control. The key word being
‘control’.
Pax Americana and Pax Romano have a lot more in common with each other
than either do with Pax Christos.
I think you keep forgetting you are a Gentile convert who has lived in
the belly of the Empire all his life.
“Blessed are the peacemakers….”
And I certainly don’t want to live under a government of laws left to
the interpretation of Pharisaic (moralists) and Sadducee (lawyers)
interests, with Zealots running around whacking people with canes for
non-doctrinal behavior, do you? I don’t think a “Christian Taliban”
is what Jesus died for, in New Jerusalem.
My understanding is that our Father got out of the worldly government
business a couple of thousand years ago, when he sent his son to
“fulfill laws”, pay our debts, and forgive us.
I am a visitor in this world, and will be a correct, gracious guest,
trying my best to be without blame of any wrong. I am held to a much
higher standard than mere ‘law’.
I’ll open the can of worms called “healthcare” at a later date. I
don’t disagree with much you said there, and I work in it.
1. The last time I looked, MY King, God was still the author of this reality.
2. Everyone will have their own opinion, or someone else’s.
3. We should submit to all authority. Our victory is in Surrender.
And I think you were right in your last paragraph.
REMEMBER: you are a, wealthy by world standards, Gentile, culturally
converted, who has lived in the belly of the Empire all his life, not
some repressed indigenous like ancient Hebrews, Native Americans, or
contemporary Palestinians.
Peter VanGee
Oct 22, 2009, 5:51:44 PM10/22/09
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Hi Larry:
Submit to all authority? Wish I had one of MLK's essays by my side. I'd use a little non-violence to stomp on your argument.
Did Jesus submit to any earthly authority? Don't confuse doing 'nothing' with submission. We're here to bring it all down.
Know the Lord,
Pete
Mathew Enoch Mount
Oct 22, 2009, 11:35:51 PM10/22/09
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Hello,
You said that people can still freely catch fish if they own a boat,
but this is not true in the United States. I live half a block away
from the Rock River, so I know that catching fish takes a fishing
license. In other words people have to have the government’s approval
before catching any fish as the government mandates exactly how a
person is to catch fish, and when they do they can only keep what the
government allows them to catch. If the government can regulate
people catching fish in the open waters, then how much more does it
regulate your preaching of the gospel?
Regarding the Amish you might be unaware. A Amish woman baked bread
for years (perhaps even decades) in my community and she sold that
bread at the farmers market (It was very good bread and may God bless
her). The health department shut her down because she did not have a
USDA Food Code approved kitchen. If this kind of thing happens with
the Amish, then whom else falls victim to this?
For the job that I do I had to study the USDA Food Code in depth in
order to receive a Food Safety Manager Certification in order to give
away free samples in retail stores. For a former company years ago I
never had to do this before and I gave away free samples if four
different states (I also got paid a lot more for my work and had to
work a lot less for my pay). After incredible depth of study and
testing, I became certified.
One of my first jobs after certification was to cook a potato in a
microwave and cut it into section and serve the sections to the
public. The county health inspector caught me doing this, and he
asked to see my temperature log for the baked potato. When the man
learned that I did not have one, he threatened to shut my booth down
as he had been in a habit of shutting my company down in the past.
I asked the man about the rules that he was enforcing and how they
came about, and he bragged that he made them up. The fact of the
matter is that everyone can eat a potato raw without cooking it as it
as much danger as eating a raw carrot. I explained this fact in my
cover letter to the county health department as I applied for the
position of Health Inspector, and I never saw his face again
especially since I stated that if the laws are just something that
people make up on a whim then I had something much better to offer
them namely the ancient Hebrew law made by God.
One of the big reasons why almost every factory in this aria shut down
after about a hundred years of success of many of the factories is
because the rules that the government imposed on the factories had
been so extreme that they could no longer make a profit and could not
compete with factories in other nations. As a result many workers
became displaced causing workers to collect in shut down factories and
burn trash to keep warm in the winter. Many of these factories burnt
down, and now much of my community looks like the enemy came in and
conquered it.
My mother bought me my first car, but since the neighbors could not
tolerate the looks of it because it was old thus the police constantly
harassed me about the car (because of a junk car law) until I had to
sell it to someone whom was looking to harvest parts. My mother also
bought me my second car, and since it to was old the police constantly
harassed me about it as well until I had to give it away to someone
who I believe sold it to a junk yard. The point in the matter is that
many of our laws, I believe, come from a group of people that strongly
detest anything holy, and such people seek to model the entire world
around their preferences.
People think, "we don’t want to see a junk car" so the result is,
"lets make it illegal." People think, "we don’t want to see a bunch
of people fishing in the river" so the result is, "lets make rules
that make it unprofitable." People think, "we don’t like the
pollution of that factory" so the result is, "lets make rules against
it." People think, "we hate seeing that poor Amish woman making
bread" so the result it, "lets shut her down." These laws that come
out of the delusions of a man’s mind are often a curse to anything
that is holy.
One man in this community is a disabled veteran whom has to go to jail
on a rather regular bases because he lives in his own house without
utilities in the city and thus is in violation of the law. Not only
that but my community has also jailed disabled people in wheel chairs
for not having street legal chairs. The point is that if this is
freedom, then what kind of slavery are we being protected against?
I agree with you Larry that Christ is King and he is in power now, and
that is why all those whom curse God with their wicked justice God
will also curse. We should not rebel against our slavery because God
is in charge, and he will settle the score. Overall, the verdict
appears to be that people have rejected God’s Law, so God has handed
them over to the delusion of their own minds to be a law in
themselves.
Today if you collected all the Federal Law together with your State’s
law then it would fill a library perhaps about the size of a two or
three car garage at least. All the law would take perhaps a lifetime
to read, and if you read it all, then your entire life would be wasted
in producing nothing. This would truly be the workshop of the devil.
The devil comes out of his workshop and orders people around. They do
as he says, and they become unproductive at what they do. Prices
rise, people become unemployed, and everyone struggles so desperately
just to survive that people say, "their is no God the only source of
our salvation is the work of our own hands." Overall, then what
happens is that many of the rich make for themselves gods of gold and
bow down and worship them saying, "the work of our own hands provides
every good blessing."
In all things God is in control even over Satan and all the devils.
The fruitfulness of God is that we invest the talents that God has
given us from the cross wisely in order to produce a crop of
righteousness. If we intercede through service for one anther using
our gifts, then we will eventually find that we need no secular law to
govern over us.
In my many visits to many churches I found one church that was
unique. In this particular church people served each other. I
remember seeing in multiple settings a particular whom who went to the
church, and in every setting she had a hoard of disciples gathered
around her (over years these people had always been the same people).
This woman was black in an almost entirely white community, and almost
all of her disciples had been black as well.
One day I went to her house to present her with a letter that I wrote
for her to get out of legal trouble. I noticed the associate pastor
of her church working on the roof of her garage. She was working on
the legal work related to her business, and a evangelist from a Slavic
nation was working on her computer. Others from her church had been
working on her yard, and I came and discussed her business of selling
flowers with her as I paid some attention to the potential impact of
the letter that I wrote. Not only that but the house that the woman
lived in was not a little cottage, but instead it was the size of a
hotel and she had considered making it into a hotel and spoke to me
about the subject.
If you ask your grandparents or great grandparents about how their
parents or grandparents lived, then you will at some point find that
people lived more like servants of one another and that this work
would have been organized by the church to some extent. People
interceded for one another both spiritually and physically as they
served one another. Overall, the point is that people have changed
from becoming serving of other Christians to becoming self serving of
themselves seeking to serve even Satan if it would serve their own
desires.
Since people have become so self serving thus people say, "Satan can
do wherever he wants just as long as it doesn’t harm me." This is
just the opposite message of the cross because the cross teaches us
that Christ who is God gave his gifts to others and broke the powers
of evil by allowing everyone and everything to crucify him. If Christ
served only himself, then he would have never been born or crucified.
Are we to submit ourselves to laws written by the hand of the devil?
Yes, because only in that way can we be crucified and show the world
whom Christ really is. God is in charge of all things, and he has
allowed man to hand over his kingdom to the devil in order that it
would be redeemed and the gospel would thus be proclaimed.
You said that people can still freely catch fish if they own a boat,
but this is not true in the United States. I live half a block away
from the Rock River, so I know that catching fish takes a fishing
license. In other words people have to have the government’s approval
before catching any fish as the government mandates exactly how a
person is to catch fish, and when they do they can only keep what the
government allows them to catch. If the government can regulate
people catching fish in the open waters, then how much more does it
regulate your preaching of the gospel?
Regarding the Amish you might be unaware. A Amish woman baked bread
for years (perhaps even decades) in my community and she sold that
bread at the farmers market (It was very good bread and may God bless
her). The health department shut her down because she did not have a
USDA Food Code approved kitchen. If this kind of thing happens with
the Amish, then whom else falls victim to this?
For the job that I do I had to study the USDA Food Code in depth in
order to receive a Food Safety Manager Certification in order to give
away free samples in retail stores. For a former company years ago I
never had to do this before and I gave away free samples if four
different states (I also got paid a lot more for my work and had to
work a lot less for my pay). After incredible depth of study and
testing, I became certified.
One of my first jobs after certification was to cook a potato in a
microwave and cut it into section and serve the sections to the
public. The county health inspector caught me doing this, and he
asked to see my temperature log for the baked potato. When the man
learned that I did not have one, he threatened to shut my booth down
as he had been in a habit of shutting my company down in the past.
I asked the man about the rules that he was enforcing and how they
came about, and he bragged that he made them up. The fact of the
matter is that everyone can eat a potato raw without cooking it as it
as much danger as eating a raw carrot. I explained this fact in my
cover letter to the county health department as I applied for the
position of Health Inspector, and I never saw his face again
especially since I stated that if the laws are just something that
people make up on a whim then I had something much better to offer
them namely the ancient Hebrew law made by God.
One of the big reasons why almost every factory in this aria shut down
after about a hundred years of success of many of the factories is
because the rules that the government imposed on the factories had
been so extreme that they could no longer make a profit and could not
compete with factories in other nations. As a result many workers
became displaced causing workers to collect in shut down factories and
burn trash to keep warm in the winter. Many of these factories burnt
down, and now much of my community looks like the enemy came in and
conquered it.
My mother bought me my first car, but since the neighbors could not
tolerate the looks of it because it was old thus the police constantly
harassed me about the car (because of a junk car law) until I had to
sell it to someone whom was looking to harvest parts. My mother also
bought me my second car, and since it to was old the police constantly
harassed me about it as well until I had to give it away to someone
who I believe sold it to a junk yard. The point in the matter is that
many of our laws, I believe, come from a group of people that strongly
detest anything holy, and such people seek to model the entire world
around their preferences.
People think, "we don’t want to see a junk car" so the result is,
"lets make it illegal." People think, "we don’t want to see a bunch
of people fishing in the river" so the result is, "lets make rules
that make it unprofitable." People think, "we don’t like the
pollution of that factory" so the result is, "lets make rules against
it." People think, "we hate seeing that poor Amish woman making
bread" so the result it, "lets shut her down." These laws that come
out of the delusions of a man’s mind are often a curse to anything
that is holy.
One man in this community is a disabled veteran whom has to go to jail
on a rather regular bases because he lives in his own house without
utilities in the city and thus is in violation of the law. Not only
that but my community has also jailed disabled people in wheel chairs
for not having street legal chairs. The point is that if this is
freedom, then what kind of slavery are we being protected against?
I agree with you Larry that Christ is King and he is in power now, and
that is why all those whom curse God with their wicked justice God
will also curse. We should not rebel against our slavery because God
is in charge, and he will settle the score. Overall, the verdict
appears to be that people have rejected God’s Law, so God has handed
them over to the delusion of their own minds to be a law in
themselves.
Today if you collected all the Federal Law together with your State’s
law then it would fill a library perhaps about the size of a two or
three car garage at least. All the law would take perhaps a lifetime
to read, and if you read it all, then your entire life would be wasted
in producing nothing. This would truly be the workshop of the devil.
The devil comes out of his workshop and orders people around. They do
as he says, and they become unproductive at what they do. Prices
rise, people become unemployed, and everyone struggles so desperately
just to survive that people say, "their is no God the only source of
our salvation is the work of our own hands." Overall, then what
happens is that many of the rich make for themselves gods of gold and
bow down and worship them saying, "the work of our own hands provides
every good blessing."
In all things God is in control even over Satan and all the devils.
The fruitfulness of God is that we invest the talents that God has
given us from the cross wisely in order to produce a crop of
righteousness. If we intercede through service for one anther using
our gifts, then we will eventually find that we need no secular law to
govern over us.
In my many visits to many churches I found one church that was
unique. In this particular church people served each other. I
remember seeing in multiple settings a particular whom who went to the
church, and in every setting she had a hoard of disciples gathered
around her (over years these people had always been the same people).
This woman was black in an almost entirely white community, and almost
all of her disciples had been black as well.
One day I went to her house to present her with a letter that I wrote
for her to get out of legal trouble. I noticed the associate pastor
of her church working on the roof of her garage. She was working on
the legal work related to her business, and a evangelist from a Slavic
nation was working on her computer. Others from her church had been
working on her yard, and I came and discussed her business of selling
flowers with her as I paid some attention to the potential impact of
the letter that I wrote. Not only that but the house that the woman
lived in was not a little cottage, but instead it was the size of a
hotel and she had considered making it into a hotel and spoke to me
about the subject.
If you ask your grandparents or great grandparents about how their
parents or grandparents lived, then you will at some point find that
people lived more like servants of one another and that this work
would have been organized by the church to some extent. People
interceded for one another both spiritually and physically as they
served one another. Overall, the point is that people have changed
from becoming serving of other Christians to becoming self serving of
themselves seeking to serve even Satan if it would serve their own
desires.
Since people have become so self serving thus people say, "Satan can
do wherever he wants just as long as it doesn’t harm me." This is
just the opposite message of the cross because the cross teaches us
that Christ who is God gave his gifts to others and broke the powers
of evil by allowing everyone and everything to crucify him. If Christ
served only himself, then he would have never been born or crucified.
Are we to submit ourselves to laws written by the hand of the devil?
Yes, because only in that way can we be crucified and show the world
whom Christ really is. God is in charge of all things, and he has
allowed man to hand over his kingdom to the devil in order that it
would be redeemed and the gospel would thus be proclaimed.
Peter VanGee
Oct 23, 2009, 10:54:30 AM10/23/09
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Hi all:
Matt: I assume your talking to Larry.
Consider these quotes: "In the lifetime of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed or delivered up to another people; rather, it shall break to pieces all these kingdoms and put an end to them, and it shall stand forever." Dn 2.44
"For our struggle is not with flesh and blood but with the principalities, with the powers, with the rulers of this present darkness, with the evil spirits in the heavens." Eph 6.12
Know the Lord,
Pete
Mathew Enoch Mount
Oct 23, 2009, 3:11:36 PM10/23/09
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