The Near Death Experience of Haydee Cortes

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Feb 5, 2009, 12:43:04 PM2/5/09
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Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies

The Near Death Experience of Haydee Cortes


I was baptized by the Jehovah witnesses in 1970. I believed in God but
I didn't believe that Jesus Christ was God. I believed Jesus Christ
was a god created by the true God. I didn't believe in life after
death much less that there was a conscious spirit that would leave the
body when one died. I didn't believe in any kind of miracle healing
nor I believed that God would communicate with people through visions
or dreams. I believed that all kind of healing, miracles and visions
were the work of the devil. I was very loyal to these Jehovah Witness
teachings, and nobody could convince me of the contrary.

On September 12, 1973 I was ready to have a C-section done. While I
was on the operation table I could see how the doctors and nurses were
getting ready to do their job and they were kind of painting my
abdomen with an orange liquid. I was concerned about it and asked what
were they doing. The doctor explained to me that they were doing this
before the anesthesia since they had to apply the anesthesia and start
cutting right away to avoid the baby to be sedated.

They started injecting me the anesthesia and I felt a strange
sensation. My body got stiffed, but my mind stayed awake. I realized
they were going to cut my abdomen and I was not asleep. I tried to
move and scream in desperation but all efforts were in vain. I started
feeling a terrible pain while they were cutting my abdomen. All of a
sudden in the middle of my pain I heard an audible voice saying; "Look
what is going to happen to you!"
In that instant I was pulled out of my body with a sudden swoosh. I
was moving very fast in a circular motion heading toward the ceiling
of the room. I stayed hovering there looking down to what they were
doing. I could see how my baby was being taken out of my womb. I felt
very sad and I said: "Nothing can be done, everything is over for me
on the earth. I was so anxious to see that baby and I couldn't even
hold it in my arms". I remembered my other children with sadness and
said, "This is the end; now my children will forget all about me".

I then started going up. I was aware I didn't have a solid body. I was
some kind of energy force moving at a high speed like in a circular
motion. I was completely conscious. I knew I was me and I had all my
memories with me. I knew I had left the earth. I found myself in a
pitch black place. I started asking questions to myself. "Is this the
universe? Where am I? Where am I going to? Am I going to stay here
forever?" All of a sudden I started feeling something very strange.
The only word I can use for this is agony or torment. At the same time
I was feeling a need for my body. I wanted to get out of there and I
wanted my body back. I couldn't bear the torment. I remembered the
voice I heard at the hospital right before coming out of my body
("look what is going to happen to you"). I started screaming "PLEASE,
DON'T LET THIS TO HAPPEN!" " I ACCEPT I WON'T EVER GO TO THE EARTH
AGAIN , I ACCEPT I WON 'T EVER SEE MY CHILDREN AGAIN, BUT I CAN'T
ACCEPT I WILL BE HERE FOREVER". "NO, PLEASE, DON'T LET THIS TO
HAPPEN!" Immediately I heard a group of voices saying at the same time
"This is for you to believe". I answered " I only believe in the
Almighty God.

Then there was a silence.

The torment I was feeling stopped and I started to come down at a high
speed again. I found myself back to the ceiling of the hospital room.
This time my body was laying on a stretcher and I saw a nurse tapping
its face and saying "Haydee, wake up!" I could clearly see her while I
was moving down closer. Then I was softly dropped inside my body. The
nurse was still tapping my face and calling my name. I opened my eyes
and there she was right in front of my face. I looked at her eyes
while I was thinking "I wish you knew where I'm coming from". I
couldn't take the experience away from my mind and I was in a big
concern about people in the world. I thought, "The Jehovah Witnesses
deceived me, we are Spiritual Beings inside a flesh body and we come
out of the body when we die!" People don't know what can happen to
them. They should know about this!"

With this experience I learned that since I didn't believe in the Son
of God I was in darkness. And there is where I went.

Matthew 8:11-12," And I say to you that many will come from east and
west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of
heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer
darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matthew 25:30 - And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer
darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

A few days later I was discharged from the hospital. I couldn't stop
thinking about my amazing experience. I kept on repeating to myself,
"I was deceived by the Jehovah Witnesses about no spirit coming out of
the body when we died, and I just experienced it". I started to care
for everyone in the world. I wanted to warn everybody about that dark
place. I decided then to believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord
and started visiting a Christian church.

After I have received Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior I woke up one
night and got up from my bed. While walking toward the door I looked
back at my bed and I saw my husband sleeping and to my surprise, my
body was also there next to him. I realized I was out of my body again
but this time I was not a formless energy moving at high speed. This
time I had a body. I stretched my arms forward and looked at this new
body. I then looked at my children's bedroom and I felt sad to leave
them. I thought, "now when my children wake up they will see I'm dead.
They will bury me and they will forget all about me. They don't have
anybody to take good care of them, poor things".

I then knelt on the floor and started praying, "Please Lord, in the
name of your son Jesus Christ, return me to my body. My children need
me." I felt a force lifting me up slowly from the floor and positioned
me on top of my material body on the bed and I started to come down
slowly until I fell inside it. Right away I tried to open my eyes and
move but the body was rigid like a wall . All efforts to move were in
vain. I got desperate and I started to pray "Please Lord, my children
need me; there is no one to take care of them properly, bring me back
to life." I started feeling like needles inside my whole body. I felt
the force of life and the beating of my heart. I then opened my eyes
and this time they opened. Then I moved my fingers to check and they
moved. I then jumped out of my bed amazed.

I have told this experience in different churches and many lives have
been touched and have given their hearts to the Lord. To God be the
glory.

/s/ Haydee Cortes







ResLight

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Feb 6, 2009, 1:27:16 PM2/6/09
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On Feb 5, 12:43 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies

Dear Mrs. Cortez,

Please note that I am not with the JWs, nor is this forum sponsored by
any of the JWs. I will, Yahweh willing, be responding to your
statements little by little, as time permits.

> The Near Death Experience of Haydee Cortes
>
> I was baptized by the Jehovah witnesses in 1970. I believed in God but
> I didn't believe that Jesus Christ was God.

On this, the JWs are correct. The Bible never depicts Jesus as his
God, but rather as the one sent by the only true God. Any such
thoughts have to assumed, added to, and read into, each and every
scripture that is presented to allegedly support the dogma that Jesus
is his God.
http://godandson.reslight.net

In the scriptures we find that Yahweh (Jehovah), by means of his holy
spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Yahweh (Jehovah) is the
only true God, the God and Father of the Lord Jesus. Jesus has One who
is the Supreme Being over him; Jesus is not his Supreme Being whom he
worships, prays to, and who sent him, and whose will he carried out in
willful obedience. — Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew 4:4 (Deuteronomy
8:3; Luke 4:4); Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16); Matthew 4:10 (Exodus
20:3-5; 34:14; Deuteronomy 6:13,14; 10:20; Luke 4:8); Matthew
22:29-40; Matthew 26:42; Matthew 27:46; Mark 10:6 (Genesis 1:27;
Genesis 2:7,20-23); Mark 14:36; 15:34; Luke 22:42; John 4:3; 5:30;
6:38; 17:1,3; 20:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 11:31; Ephesians
1:3,17; Hebrews 1:9; 10:7; 1 Peter 1:3; Revelation 2:7; 3:2,12.

We find in the scriptures that Yahweh (Jehovah), by means of his holy
spirit, reveals through the scriptures that Jesus was sent by Yahweh,
speaks for Yahweh, represents Yahweh, and was raised and glorified by
the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus never claimed to be, nor do
the scriptures present Jesus as, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
whom Jesus represents and speaks for. — Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Matthew
22:32; 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; 12:26; Luke 13:35; 20:37; John
3:2,17,32-35; 4:34; 5:19,30,36,43; 6:57; 7:16,28; 8:26,28,38; 10:25;
12:49,50; 14:10; 15:15; 17:8,26; 20:17; Acts 2:22,34-36; 3:13,22;
5:30; Romans 15:6; 2 Corinthians 1:3; 8:6; 11:31; Colossians 1:3,15;
2:9-12; Hebrews 1:1-3; Revelation 1:1.
http://reslight.wordpress.com/2007/05/31/who-is-jesus-part-1/

> I believed Jesus Christ
> was a god created by the true God.

We prefer the translation of John 1:1c as "the Logos was mighty."
http://notrinity.blogspot.com/2008/08/john-112-word-was-mighty.html

Jesus was indeed "a god" in the sense of being a mighty being, just as
Moses was made "a god" [elohim] -- a superior mighty one -- to
Pharaoh. (Exodus 7:1)

By saying "was" (John 1:1,2), John is speaking of the glory that Jesus
had in the past, before he came into the world that God had made
through Jesus. (John 1:1,2,10) Jesus spoke of that glory in John 17:5,
and Paul speaks of that glory as a celestial, not terrestrial, glory.
(1 Corinthians 15:40) While Jesus was in the days of his flesh, he did
not have that glory of a "mighty" celestial body (substance), for if
he did, then why would he ask (as recorded in John 17:5) for that
which he already possessed?

More to follow, Yahweh willing.

ResLight

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Feb 7, 2009, 9:37:23 PM2/7/09
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On Feb 5, 12:43 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies
>
> I believed Jesus Christ
> was a god created by the true God.

That is the way the Bible does present the matter. Jesus is indeed the
firstborn creature. -- Colossians 1:15.
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=200
http://defending.reslight.net/?p=45
http://defending.reslight.net/?p=10
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=208

ResLight

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Feb 7, 2009, 9:44:30 PM2/7/09
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On Feb 5, 12:43 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies
>
> I didn't believe in life after
> death

At this point I have to wonder at such a statement. I am wondering how
one who claims to have been a "Jehovah's Witness" and yet while being
with the JWs not believed in life after death. While I am not with the
JWs, I do know many JWs, and I know that they, similar to the Bible
Students, do believe in life after death, since they believe in the
resurrection of the dead. Indeed, I have one of their magazines on
desk that speaks of "The Resurrection Hope". (The Watchtower, July 1,
2008, page 8) Yes, the Bible does indeed speak of life after death in
the last day when the dead are raised. However, the Bible does not
speak of life while dead, which is in reality a contradiction of
terms, since that which is dead is not alive, and that which is alive
is not dead.
http://hereafter.reslight.net
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ResLight

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Feb 7, 2009, 10:37:52 PM2/7/09
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On Feb 5, 12:43 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies
> much less that there was a conscious spirit that would leave the
> body when one died.

There is in reality no reason to add such an idea to the Bible that
there is a conscious spirit being that leaves the body when one dies,
except to further Satan's lie that death is not actually the penalty
for sin. (Genesis 2:17; 3:4; Romans 6:23) The wages of sin is death,
not just a so-called spiritual death that many claim to be the wages
of sin. Jesus did not die a "spiritual death" for our sins, he was
really dead, unconscious, oblivious in the condition of hades/
sheol until his God and Father raised his soul from death to live as a
spirit being. As a human being, he paid the price for eternity of
death, thus his humanity is dead forever. (1 Peter 3:18) He died
(Romans 5:8; 1 Corinthians 15:3) physically, not spiritually, to pay
the price for our sins. -- Ecclesiastes 9:10; Romans 5:12-19; 1
Timothy 2:5,6.
http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=12
http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=75
http://atonement.reslight.net/?p=1
http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=62

ResLight

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Mar 29, 2009, 11:25:50 PM3/29/09
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On Feb 5, 1:43 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ex-Jehovah Witness Learns the Witnesses lie about our Spirit Bodies
>
> Matthew 8:11-12," And I say to you that many will come from east and
> west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of
> heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer
> darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Jesus does not say anything in these verses about the weeping and
gnashing of teeth in the Bible hell. (hades/sheol) Nor does he say
anything about weeping and gnashing of teeth in Gehenna. Nor does he
say that these are weeping and gnashing their teeth while in an
alleged condition of being alive while dead. Nor did he say anything
about these having "spirit bodies". All of this has to imagined,
assumed, added to, and read into what Jesus said.

Matthew 8:10-12 and Luke 13:28-30 depict the end results of the Jewish
rejection of their Messiah in the resurrection. The Kingdom was taken
from them and given to a "nation" producing its fruitage. (Matthew
21:43) Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are figured as sitting in this kingdom
because it is this "nation" that becomes the seed of Abraham, not by
blood and flesh, but by faith. (Galatians 3:26-29) Of course, the
language of the parable is pictorial, not to be taken literally. The
children of the kingdom, the Jews as a whole, were cast out into outer
darkness. There they were weeping and gnashing their teeth. They were
cast out when Jesus stated: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem you who killed the
prophets, and stoned them that were sent to you how often I would have
gathered your children together, as hen gathers her offspring under
her wings, but you would not allow it! Look, your house is left to you
in desolation. Truly I say to that you will not see until the time
comes when you will say: Blessed is he who comes in the name of
Yahweh!'" -- Luke 13:34,35.

Additionally, In all this there is no reference to a living existence
of Abraham going to heaven when he died.

It is only in a symbolic sense that the nation of Israel, bound and
cursed by the Law, is spoken of as being in hades while in the
condition described in Matthew 8:11,12.
http://hereafter.reslight.net/?p=42

Christian love,
Ronald
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