One thing I'm missing is a "hello world" tutorial, something that takes me step by step from opening up a fresh jazz install to creating a standalone executable that prints "hello world" out to the console and in a dialog box. Does such a thing exist anywhere? If not, could someone please type up a step-by-step howto - I'm having trouble getting started, and would rather understand what's going on than cut and paste stuff from the samples. I'd be happy to add screenshots and expand the text into a full-fledged tutorial once I've caught on.
Getting started in Jazz can indeed be challenging.
The good news is that once you get over the first bump it is extremely easy
to further learn by example using all the code introspection tools available
in the Jedi IDE as almost everything available in Jazz is used somewhere in
Jedi. For instance :
- You see a button that does something and are wondering how it works:
press F8, move your mouse over the button, right-click and select "Edit
Action" (or "Edit Action Handler" depending) and you'll be taken to the
source code implementing that button.
- Same thing for menu items. Just open the menu, press F8, move your
mouse over the item, right-click, ... (this doesn't work for menus on X11
unfortunately I think)
- If the code you are looking for happens through a shortcut, go to the
Tools / View Shortcut Bindings... menu item (ctrl-shift-k), press the
shortcut and double-click the desired binding and you'll be taken to the
source code that implements that binding.
- Once in the code, as Jazz catalogs all source code for definitions and
references, it should be very easy to navigate further. First, you might
want to make sure your catalogs are up-to-date by going to the Tools /
Catalogs Manager window and pressing Update (note that once this is done,
the IDE will maintain your catalogs up-to-date automatically with any change
you make to the source code, you just have to do this after pulling new
changes). This done, just put the text selection in any symbol you want and
press F12 to edit that definition or shift-F12 to view a list of all
definitions using that symbol.
Hope this helps.
PS: Regarding an "Hello World" tutorial, I'll try and write one in the next
few days and add it to the http://www.jazzscheme.org/tutorials.htm page.
Once thing. Would you prefer a tutorial in pure Jazz or a tutorial from the
standpoint of creating an application using Jedi?
Guillaume
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Martin DeMello <martindeme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> One thing I'm missing is a "hello world" tutorial, something that
> takes me step by step from opening up a fresh jazz install to creating
> a standalone executable that prints "hello world" out to the console
> and in a dialog box. Does such a thing exist anywhere? If not, could
> someone please type up a step-by-step howto - I'm having trouble
> getting started, and would rather understand what's going on than cut
> and paste stuff from the samples. I'd be happy to add screenshots and
> expand the text into a full-fledged tutorial once I've caught on.
<gcart...@jazzscheme.org> wrote: > PS: Regarding an "Hello World" tutorial, I'll try and write one in the next > few days and add it to the http://www.jazzscheme.org/tutorials.htm page. > Once thing. Would you prefer a tutorial in pure Jazz or a tutorial from the > standpoint of creating an application using Jedi?
What would the difference be? If you're talking about the "create new project" skeleton, that's an excellent feature and should be mentioned, but my problem with it was that I didn't really end up with any sort of deep understanding about the code it generated, so a pure tutorial would make a better starting point.
Thanks for the write up about exploring the code behind the IDE; I'm looking forward to playing with that.
By building up step by step to what the IDE automatically generates
for you when you create a new project, I hope it will help in getting
a better understanding of the underlying structure of repositories,
packages, modules, libraries and products.
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Martin DeMello <martindeme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Guillaume Cartier
> <gcart...@jazzscheme.org> wrote:
>> PS: Regarding an "Hello World" tutorial, I'll try and write one in the next
>> few days and add it to the http://www.jazzscheme.org/tutorials.htm page.
>> Once thing. Would you prefer a tutorial in pure Jazz or a tutorial from the
>> standpoint of creating an application using Jedi?
> What would the difference be? If you're talking about the "create new
> project" skeleton, that's an excellent feature and should be
> mentioned, but my problem with it was that I didn't really end up with
> any sort of deep understanding about the code it generated, so a pure
> tutorial would make a better starting point.
> Thanks for the write up about exploring the code behind the IDE; I'm
> looking forward to playing with that.
> By building up step by step to what the IDE automatically generates
> for you when you create a new project, I hope it will help in getting
> a better understanding of the underlying structure of repositories,
> packages, modules, libraries and products.
> Guillaume
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Martin DeMello <martindeme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Guillaume Cartier
>> <gcart...@jazzscheme.org> wrote:
>>> PS: Regarding an "Hello World" tutorial, I'll try and write one in the next
>>> few days and add it to the http://www.jazzscheme.org/tutorials.htm page.
>>> Once thing. Would you prefer a tutorial in pure Jazz or a tutorial from the
>>> standpoint of creating an application using Jedi?
>> What would the difference be? If you're talking about the "create new
>> project" skeleton, that's an excellent feature and should be
>> mentioned, but my problem with it was that I didn't really end up with
>> any sort of deep understanding about the code it generated, so a pure
>> tutorial would make a better starting point.
>> Thanks for the write up about exploring the code behind the IDE; I'm
>> looking forward to playing with that.
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