Re: [jazz_guitar] Bluesing around

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Brian Kelly

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Jan 27, 2012, 11:16:39 AM1/27/12
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George,

That’s very nice.

Brian

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Dave Woods

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Jan 27, 2012, 7:23:54 AM1/27/12
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Good Playing George.  nice drive and articulation all the way through
I can see why you hold your job.  Let's hear another one, and take a
breath once in a while.

Dave

George Hess

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Jan 27, 2012, 1:27:29 AM1/27/12
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Hi all;

I was trying out Logic's cycle record mode. I exported 12 bars of blues using BIAB's real tracks and then turned on cycle record and just played for a while. Each cycle created a new track which I then laid end to end. Pretty slick. I recorded this direct using only Logic effects. BTW, for those of you looking for effects, consider MainStage, which is Logic for live situations. I'll be interested in hearing comments on the guitar sound (or whatever for that matter). Anyone--Google + hangout participants excluded--want to guess what guitar I used? Hint it's not the one in the picture.

http://soundcloud.com/ghess1000/justjammin


Thanks for your input.


George Hess
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http://www.georgehess.net

John Amato

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Jan 27, 2012, 12:52:11 PM1/27/12
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> Let's hear another one, and take a
> breath once in a while.
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Jim,
Miles told Coltrane when he expressed his tendency for long lines and how he gets so inthralled in going on and on .... MIles said, "John, just take the horn out of your mouth."

With all due respect and love for 'ya Jim, I believe one's phrasing is intuitive and instinctive ... I say this because I've literally seen, heard, read, witnessed top pros at workshops, clinics, and in text what they say about length of lines and phrases ...

There is a wealth of opinions exactly on this, and about 50% say play shorter lines, and the other half say play longer lines.

Here's my take, after many years of listening and playing, 'Play what's in your heart' ... if you hear a short line, go for it, if you hear a long line, go for it ...' follow you heart & ears, not external influences ... I love 'ya Jim ....

John Amato

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Jan 27, 2012, 12:27:51 PM1/27/12
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George,

Very nice, indeed, cool flowing lines ... sounds like a semi-hollow or solid body ... was the backing track part of Logic, or can you program it with the changes, etc.

Jim Mings

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Jan 27, 2012, 12:19:29 PM1/27/12
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In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, Dave Woods <davewoods1939@...> wrote:
Good Playing George.  nice drive and articulation all the way through
I can see why you hold your job.  Let's hear another one, and take a

breath once in a while.
Dave
George,
I like it, too.
Jim

Terry Petty

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Jan 27, 2012, 3:41:05 PM1/27/12
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> Miles told Coltrane when he expressed his tendency for long lines and how he gets so inthralled in going on and on .... MIles said, "John, just take the horn out of your mouth."
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> With all due respect and love for 'ya Jim, I believe one's phrasing is intuitive and instinctive ... I say this because I've literally seen, heard, read, witnessed top pros at workshops, clinics, and in text what they say about length of lines and phrases ...
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> There is a wealth of opinions exactly on this, and about 50% say play shorter lines, and the other half say play longer lines.
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> Here's my take, after many years of listening and playing, 'Play what's in your heart' ... if you hear a short line, go for it, if you hear a long line, go for it ...' follow you heart & ears, not external influences ... I love 'ya Jim ....
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...and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I personally admire the ability (and hard work it took) to play fast, dense lines. BUT....I prefer, am moved by, beautiful, often simple melodies with generous amounts of space as well.
Terry

John Amato

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Jan 27, 2012, 1:30:58 PM1/27/12
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> Dave,

> Miles told Coltrane when he expressed his tendency for long lines and how he gets so inthralled in going on and on .... MIles said, "John, just take the horn out of your mouth."
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> With all due respect and love for 'ya Dave, I believe one's phrasing is intuitive and instinctive ... I say this because I've literally seen, heard, read, witnessed top pros at workshops, clinics, and in text what they say about length of lines and phrases ...


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> Here's my take, after many years of listening and playing, 'Play what's in your heart' ... if you hear a short line, go for it, if you hear a long line, go for it ...' follow you heart & ears, not external influences ... I love 'ya Dave ....


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rguitarjj

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Jan 27, 2012, 7:55:40 PM1/27/12
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When I listen to Wes, it doesn't sound like he's playing very fast.

But, when I try to play his lines, suddenly it seems like they are very fast.

I think maybe the more melodic the line, the less one focuses on the speed.

George Hess

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Jan 27, 2012, 9:02:22 PM1/27/12
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>>Good Playing George. nice drive and articulation all the way through
I can see why you hold your job. Let's hear another one, and take a

breath once in a while.

Yeah, it was recorded in the morning after one too many cups of coffee. ;-) Sometimes it's fun to just blow it out. BTW, I don't teach guitar or jazz here, just theory, tech and career development.

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Dave Woods

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Jan 27, 2012, 6:56:14 PM1/27/12
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Terry wrote

 
> \...and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
> Terry
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Wrong!  beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.

Dave

Brian Kelly

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Jan 27, 2012, 7:16:13 PM1/27/12
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There really s no right or wrong in how many notes you play. Counting how many notes someone play or how little is silly in the extreme. Lots of great artist have played both ways. I actually do both at different times and on different songs. It depends. My way isn’t any better either because there is no such thing. It’s just the way I do it.


Brian

John Amato

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Jan 27, 2012, 6:18:00 PM1/27/12
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> \...and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I personally admire the ability (and hard work it took) to play fast, dense lines. BUT....I prefer, am moved by, beautiful, often simple melodies with generous amounts of space as well.
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Terry,

Yes -- And the whole beauty of it is that on somedays and sometimes we may feel like "Eating the Bear" and you go for the velocity lines (because it's how you feel right then and there), and then at other times you may feel a bit more laid back or subdued, so you go for the sweet, slow and low down lines ... there are no preferences or better or worse because it's all about one's moods -- and one mood is just as pertinent as another ...


John Amato
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John Amato

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Jan 27, 2012, 8:00:31 PM1/27/12
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... it goes 'hand in hand' ...

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Brian Kelly

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Jan 27, 2012, 11:41:39 PM1/27/12
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From: George Hess
> don't teach guitar or jazz here, just theory, tech and career
> development.

George,

Where do you teach?

Brian

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George Hess

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Jan 28, 2012, 9:43:56 AM1/28/12
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George,

>>Where do you teach?

Brian,

I teach at Yong Siew Toh Conservatory at the National University of Singapore. Before I came here I was at Central Michigan.

George

Brian Kelly

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Jan 28, 2012, 10:26:19 AM1/28/12
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George,

I remember you. Weren’t you teaching in Cambodia at some point? Are you playing out in Singapore?

Brian

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