Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Big Band Voicings with tinyurl
John Amato
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11
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From: Jeff Shirkey <jcsh...@verizon.net>
To: jazz_...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 3:36:55 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Big Band Voicings with tinyurl
>
> The reason why G min spelled GDxBbxx is fingered 14x2xx is because
> the D
> string has to be muted. Check out the file again, because you may
> have seen
> or downloaded an earlier version.
I think the confusion may be that in your notation style above the
numbers correspond to the fingers that are being used to voice the
chord. Normally the numbers represent the frets that are being played.
Is this the source of confusion??
Thanks,
Jeff
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John Amato
Indeed... should know better than to start looking at something on a Saturday morning before having a couple of coffees. :-)
Thanks guys...
Denis
....... Coffee & Jazz ..... a natural ..... come to think of it , coffee and anything is a natural....
crackerjacklee1
Tarnation! Dave, Thanks for taking the time to put these shell chords / guide tone chords out there for us. The 653 string set is not found in current instructional books, but they sound really nice in progressions with other chords. (In fact, they don't really sound great until they're used in voice leading progressions.) But they certainly complete the sonic picture. It must have been great to study with someone of Eddie Diehl's calibre - back when music was a bread and butter profession. It would be interesting to know if he had a motto or advice for guitarists on the path? Cheers!
JamesM
I have not read what others think the 3 inversions are because of a desire to hear if there was any consensus.
The way I understand the 3 note voicing practice is, in the key of F:
#1
A 3rd string
D 4th (open)
F 6th
Foot position F6 (to keep consistent string group)
#2
C 3rd
F 4th
A 6th
first inversion
F 3rd
A 4th
C 6th
second inversion
Learn in all keys
move one or 2 voices to obtain all chord qualities
Connect all possible voices while swinging madly and gladly.
Jim Mings
denisbarsalo
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Woods" <david_woods@...> wrote:
>
> This is a rough blocking out of the three note big band rhythm voicings.
> This, a cup of coffee, and a few tunes, and you'll start getting off the
> ground. I'm going to stick with the blues for awhile. I'll also put
> together a basic Cherokee.
> http://tinyurl.com/yeynvf5
> Dave Woods
>
There's an error on the formula below the tab for Gm.
It reads 14x2xx and it should read 13x1xx.
Don't know if there are any other errors, I haven't tried playing them yet but that one just stood out when I looked.
Denis
denisbarsalo
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "denisbarsalo" <dbarsalo@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Woods" <david_woods@> wrote:
> >
> > This is a rough blocking out of the three note big band rhythm voicings.
> > This, a cup of coffee, and a few tunes, and you'll start getting off the
> > ground. I'm going to stick with the blues for awhile. I'll also put
> > together a basic Cherokee.
> > http://tinyurl.com/yeynvf5
> > Dave Woods
> >
>
> There's an error on the formula below the tab for Gm.
> It reads 14x2xx and it should read 13x1xx.
>
> Don't know if there are any other errors, I haven't tried playing them yet but that one just stood out when I looked.
Actually, I did find a few others. I emailed Dave personally to point them out so he can fix the PDF.
G/B 5fr 2x12xx (not 2x13xx)
Gm 3fr 13x2xx (not 14x2xx)
Gm 12fr 3x13xx (not 3x14xx)
I was actually surprised to see voicings on the 6,5 and 3 string. I thought all those "Freddie Green" voicings were exclusively done on the 6, 4 and 3 strings. I certainly find them easier to strum and swing when they are all on the 6-4-3 strings; as soon as I drop down to the 6-5-3 strings, I find they get muddy and I find it harder to mute the 4 string than I do the 5 string when not in use.
denisbarsalo
>
> Dave is using "Finger" numbers -- not "Fret" numbers ... once you recognize that it becomes very clear ....
Indeed... should know better than to start looking at something on a Saturday morning before having a couple of coffees. :-)
Thanks guys...
Denis
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Dave Woods
The reason why G min spelled GDxBbxx is fingered 14x2xx is because the D
string has to be muted. Check out the file again, because you may have seen
or downloaded an earlier version.
Dave Woods http://tinyurl.com/yhvkvvn
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denisbarsalo
--- In jazz_...@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Woods" <david_woods@...> wrote:
>
> Denis, wrote
>
> There's an error on the formula below the tab for Gm.
> > It reads 14x2xx and it should read 13x1xx.
> >
> > Believe it or not this is not a mistake. I'll check out the others.
Well, unless you're using some funky kind of tuning I don't know, the last time I checked, using 14x2xx would give me a G+ (G-D#-B) whereas 13x1xx would give me a Gm (G-D-Bb) which is what is written on the staff and on the tab. :-)
Denis
Dave Woods
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Denis, wrote
There's an error on the formula below the tab for Gm.
> It reads 14x2xx and it should read 13x1xx.
>
> Believe it or not this is not a mistake. I'll check out the others.
Dave
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Jeff Shirkey
>
> The reason why G min spelled GDxBbxx is fingered 14x2xx is because
> the D
> string has to be muted. Check out the file again, because you may
> have seen
> or downloaded an earlier version.
I think the confusion may be that in your notation style above the
numbers correspond to the fingers that are being used to voice the
chord. Normally the numbers represent the frets that are being played.
Is this the source of confusion??
Thanks,
Jeff
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denisbarsalo
>
> I think the confusion may be that in your notation style above the
> numbers correspond to the fingers that are being used to voice the
> chord. Normally the numbers represent the frets that are being played.
> Is this the source of confusion??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
That IS the source of confusion.... sorry. It never even occured to me to think fingers when looking at something like 14x2xx. :-)
Thanks for clearing that up Jeff.
Denis
guit...@comcast.net
I recently purchased a string damper for just that purpose. I haven't installed it yet, though, because I'm not sure which of two guitars to put it on. I got the idea from watching Herb Ellis in his instructional video "Swing Jazz Soloing and Comping." There was a thread her on their use a while ago.
Brad
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