mvc jaxer

[Brian LeRoux]

Its really only a matter of time before an mvc approach is going to be
needed. Anyone experimented with this yet?

[Davey]

I have in a limited way, one of the forthcoming samples will have some
of the features needed to start moving towards this.

but this is a very interesting opportunity. something rails like in
end to end javascript, with dedicated support in the Studio product
would be really cool. but quite a bit of work to get there.

my simplest idea would be some kind of app generator that starts from
a simple json object containing metadata and generates the app as an
MVC container with a RESTful API.

but it requires a bunch of stuff, a template engine (preferable
unobtrusive) and a db abstration layer like ActiveRecord, all quite
meaty items in their own respect.

[Brian LeRoux]

Yes, cool man, I look forward to that sample!

I was looking at Helma last night and of course Junction seems to have
some of these ideas started. I'm very sure an active community is
going to spring up around these concepts (are more) in the JavaScript
language space. Package mgmt could be something else that would be
very useful / interesting too.

[Davey]

the trimpath stuff is nice, I just dont really like the approach they
took with templating, which is kind of core to the whole stack. my
idea would be to get a templating mechanism driven with normal HTML
and use the id and class attributes to match the structure to json
objects. i got a little bit of work done on this befire i started at
aptana but have just been pegged for the last 6 months getting to this
point.

interesting times ahead for sure.

did you ever read the NBL post by steve yegge (who is working on a
rails port to javascript)

http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html

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[Brian LeRoux]

As a rails guy I'm not at all bothered by their templating approach
but I do see (all the time actually) where it can get just pain fugly.
Have you ever seen HAML before Davey? Sounds like it might have a
similar approach / syntax to what you're describing (possibly).

http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/tutorial/

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I completely agree w/ the Steve Yegge post about "the next big
language". But yeah, there is a tonne of work to be done still.
Speaking of which -- what are the plans for contributing code back to
Jaxer, etc? (if this is being figured out and you guys are waiting to
do an official announcement I'll fully understand) (I can't wait!!!)

[Davey]

we'll be setting all that up in the next few (hours|days|weeks) first
we need to publish the code for GPL. then we need to put a build
processing in place to reliably release said code, then we need to get
some public svn going.

so it will happen, but as you might expect more focus is on making
sure this release gets the care and attention it needs. it is after
only a beta, however it seems to be surviving real well thus far

On Jan 25, 10:41 am, "Brian LeRoux" <brian.ler...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As a rails guy I'm not at all bothered by their templating approach
> but I do see (all the time actually) where it can get just pain fugly.
> Have you ever seen HAML before Davey? Sounds like it might have a
> similar approach / syntax to what you're describing (possibly).
>
> http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/tutorial/
>
> * * *
> I completely agree w/ the Steve Yegge post about "the next big
> language". But yeah, there is a tonne of work to be done still.
> Speaking of which -- what are the plans for contributing code back to
> Jaxer, etc? (if this is being figured out and you guys are waiting to
> do an official announcement I'll fully understand) (I can't wait!!!)
>

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