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My Mac is just a tool, it may be a favourite one right now. But when a tool is no longer useful you replace it. If they actually do remove the jdks without a decent alternative then I will regretfully move on.
On 21 Oct 2010 09:02, "robross" <rob....@gmail.com> wrote:
It means that as of 10.7 (scheduled for summer 2011), the Apple JDK
could simply disappear, as in, NO Java on your Mac at all, no 1.4,
1.5, 1.6. 1.7 - nothing.
And since there are *currently* no 3rd party JDKs that could replace
Apple's JDK, this means if you need to develop Java apps, you'd have
to move to a supported OS, like Windows Vista, or some unix/linux
variant. (The SoyLatte OpenJDK port is in an "experimental" state at
best.)
Rob
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If nothing else, this might push efforts to improve Linux drivers for the trackpad, magic mouse, etc.Personally, I think I'll be abandoning Macbooks now, just can decide what to use as a replacementThe HP Envy's seem to have the screen quality and sold-metal body that I've grown to love, but I've read about problems installing Ubuntu on then.What's a developer to do?On 21 October 2010 09:25, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio...@tidalwave.it> wrote:
On 10/21/10 10:17 , Spencer Uresk wrote:... especially considering that now the AppStore for Mac OS X is just another way to install applications... maybe in Apple's plan there's the idea of making it the _only_ way (as you said, there's a sort of convergence to the iOS style). Looks like it's really time to move on? Too bad Linux on the desktop is being declared dead by some, including Gosling: http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/desktop_linux_the_dream_is
2) I'm kind of with Casper on this - how does Apple continually get
free passes for stuff like this? I'm not really a huge Microsoft fan,
but if they were to try something like this, people would be going
crazy. I don't think the Mac AppStore is a bad idea, but the level of
control one company could have over your computing experience is a
little scary.
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It's too strong and subjective. Let's say that there are now two sets of
developers with different contexts, incentives and interests.
Kirk
I'd say neither. It just means you can't sell Java apps through the Mac store. Makes sense to me, they want quality control, and the only Java app I've ever seen that feels remotely like it belongs on OS X is Cyberduck.
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.NET 1.0 only still, right?
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On another thought, does anyone know the best route for us to use to express our displeasure?
> Pity, really, Apple has (had?) really won over Java developers with theirYeah but wasn't that driven mostly by "my enemy's enemy is my friend"?
> recent Macs.
Ubuntu 10.10 with the mac support packages runs fine for me including
trackpad, magic mouse and so on.
And window resizing in KDE works as expected ... and not the weird way it
does on the mac ;-)
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