Request for a Landscape Committee Meeting in January

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Vince Taylor

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Dec 14, 2009, 4:45:02 PM12/14/09
to Brad Valentine, Mike Jani, Kathy Bailey, linda perkins, Steve Zuieback, John A. Helms, Vince Taylor, Linwood Gill, Dan Porter, JAG Group, Russ Henly, John A. Helms
Dear Landscape Committee Members,

I'm writing to all as our Chairmanship is somewhat ill-defined at the moment. If a majority of the committee wants to meet, we should be able to arrange how to make it occur. My thought is to schedule it in mid-January, safely after the holidays but before the next JAG meeting.

I would like to meet on the following subjects:

  1. Consider adding the area encompassed by the Volcano 2 THP (and a little section to the east that also has significant unentered/high-density big trees to our late seral designation. This will create a substantial contiguous area for late seral management, adding in some important stands of old unentered second growth. I discussed this at the JAG meeting that discussed the Camp 6 THP, which is within this area.

    I have attached a map of the area showing the adjacent allocations to Older Forest an Late Seral. Also attached is a page from my review of the Camp 6 THP that shows the tree-density in this area.

  2. Discuss performing an "inventory" of natural disturbances in areas of the forest that have been undisturbed since the initial entries in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Considerable emphasis has occurred in JAG discussions of attempting to mimic natural disturbances in proposed silvicultures for forest management.  Jackson Forest contains the best possible information on disturbances in Jackson State Forest in recovering second growth stands -- but many areas available for doing an inventory are slated to become disturbed very quickly. This year North Fork Spur and part of Brandon Gulch were entered. Next year the remainder of Brandon Gulch, Camp 3, Camp 6 and South Whiskey Springs will be entered. There will be no remaining undisturbed areas in the north central region other than the small reserve in Camp 3.

    If the committee feels that gathering information on natural disturbances in Jackson is important, it needs to recommend ASAP that this be done before the next harvest in areas slated for logging.

  3. Review the allocations to date and the implications for the amount of area that is slated for late seral management. My initial review, based on the 2008 MP, indicates that the amount of late seral in contiguous areas, that is, other than in stream zones that are distributed throughout the forest, equals only about 5,000 acres or 10% of the forest. Late seral in stream zones adds another 11%. See the attached chart.

  4. Developing standards and procedures to ensure that aesthetic impacts of logging operations are reasonably minimal. This may not be the right committee to resolve this issue, but it might be an appropriate committee to recommend to the JAG that this be done. I raise this because the Brandon Gulch logging done this year created significant visual impacts by using radiating cable corridors. 

2009-12-14 Volcano Late Seral Proposal Map.jpg
2009-12-14 Tree Density Map in Volcano Area.pdf
2007-09-17 Older Forest Acres Under 2008 Mgmt Plan.pdf

Brad Valentine

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:03:59 PM12/15/09
to John Helms, Dan Porter, JAG Group, Linwood Gill, linda perkins, Vince Taylor, Mike Jani, Steve Zuieback, Kathy Bailey, Russ Henly
At present, guess what — I am unavailable on all Fridays .... but I
can be available 1/14, 18, 19, 20, 21.

>>> Kathy Bailey <k...@pacific.net> 12/14/2009 2:10 PM >>>
Hi - Also, please add consideration of the West Chamberlain Creek area
to
the agenda. Brad and I are at least theoretically committed to doing a
site
review there that could result in a preliminary recommendation. I am
already booked Jan 6 and Jan 14. Kathy



From: Vince Taylor <vta...@mcn.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:45:02 -0800
To: Brad Valentine <bvale...@dfg.ca.gov>, Mike Jani
<mj...@mendoco.com>,
Kathy Bailey <k...@pacific.net>, linda perkins <lper...@mcn.org>, Steve
Zuieback <synec...@mindspring.com>, John Helms <he...@berkeley.edu>,
Vince
Taylor <vta...@mcn.org>, Linwood Gill <lin...@mcn.org>, Dan Porter
<djrp...@gmail.com>, JAG Group
<jackson-adv...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Russ Henly <Russ....@fire.ca.gov>, John Helms
<he...@berkeley.edu>
Subject: Request for a Landscape Committee Meeting in January

Dear Landscape Committee Members,

I'm writing to all as our Chairmanship is somewhat ill-defined at the
moment. If a majority of the committee wants to meet, we should be able
to
arrange how to make it occur. My thought is to schedule it in
mid-January,
safely after the holidays but before the next JAG meeting.

I would like to meet on the following subjects:

1. Consider adding the area encompassed by the Volcano 2 THP (and a
little
section to the east that also has significant unentered/high-density
big
trees to our late seral designation. This will create a substantial
contiguous area for late seral management, adding in some important
stands
of old unentered second growth. I discussed this at the JAG meeting
that
discussed the Camp 6 THP, which is within this area.
2.
3. I have attached a map of the area showing the adjacent allocations
to
Older Forest an Late Seral. Also attached is a page from my review of
the
Camp 6 THP that shows the tree-density in this area.
4.
5.
6. Discuss performing an "inventory" of natural disturbances in areas
of the
forest that have been undisturbed since the initial entries in the
late
1800s or early 1900s. Considerable emphasis has occurred in JAG
discussions
of attempting to mimic natural disturbances in proposed silvicultures
for
forest management. Jackson Forest contains the best possible
information on
disturbances in Jackson State Forest in recovering second growth stands
--
but many areas available for doing an inventory are slated to become
disturbed very quickly. This year North Fork Spur and part of Brandon
Gulch
were entered. Next year the remainder of Brandon Gulch, Camp 3, Camp 6
and
South Whiskey Springs will be entered. There will be no remaining
undisturbed areas in the north central region other than the small
reserve
in Camp 3.
7.
8. If the committee feels that gathering information on natural
disturbances
in Jackson is important, it needs to recommend ASAP that this be done
before
the next harvest in areas slated for logging.
9.
10.
11. Review the allocations to date and the implications for the amount
of
area that is slated for late seral management. My initial review, based
on
the 2008 MP, indicates that the amount of late seral in contiguous
areas,
that is, other than in stream zones that are distributed throughout
the
forest, equals only about 5,000 acres or 10% of the forest. Late seral
in
stream zones adds another 11%. See the attached chart.
12.
13.
14. Developing standards and procedures to ensure that aesthetic

Henly, Russ

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Jan 19, 2010, 8:05:00 PM1/19/10
to Vince Taylor, Brad Valentine, Mike Jani, Kathy Bailey, linda perkins, Steve Zuieback, John A. Helms, Linwood Gill, Dan Porter, JAG Group, Webb, Lynn, Linstedt, Pam, Pedersen, Craig, Eng, Helge
Greetings all,
 
Please find attached the draft silviculture guidelines developed by John Helms and Linwood Gill.  These are intended to apply to harvests that are not associated with research and demonstration.  This document is for the January 21 Landscape Committee Meeting.
 
Russ
 
Russ Henly
Assistant Deputy Director
Resource Protection and Improvement
CAL FIRE
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA  94244-2460
916-653-9447 office
916-214-4868 cell
Silviculture Committee draft 2.pdf

Eng, Helge

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Jan 24, 2010, 2:07:53 AM1/24/10
to Brad Valentine, Kathy Bailey, Vince Taylor, linda perkins, Linwood Gill, JAG Group, John A. Helms, Henly, Russ, Webb, Lynn, Linstedt, Pam, Pedersen, Craig
Enclosed are the draft minutes from the January 21 JAG Landscape Committee meeting.
 
Helge Eng
Deputy Chief - Demonstration State Forests
CAL FIRE
Sacramento Headquarters 
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
(916) 653-5000
helg...@fire.ca.gov
LC Minutes 1-21-10.pdf
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