Introducing myself
Andrea Picchi
I'm Andrea and I joined the group today.
I'm graduating in Computer Science at University of Pisa and with my
own Studio ( http://www.andreapicchi.it/ ) I develop standard and
mobile web site, web app and various graphic works.
If someone hear about it, I also work for Simbin DevTeam in their
RACE07 videogame, I made the intro-video in the game and a second one
in the dvd-tutorial.
Btw, since I love work over iphone stuffs in general, I hope I can
help you out with the italian docs and samples.
So, if you guys need help, just drop a line!
Best Regards.
Andrea
Sean Gilligan
I've been wondering what we should do about foreign language support.
There is a small group of active developers on this list, but it is a
very international group. It will be interesting to hear what some of
them have to say when/if they respond to this message (Remi? Max?)
I assume that there are no known issues with localizing iUI apps, if
there are please let us know.
I can think of a handful ways that you could help with Italian docs and
samples:
1) Create an Italian version of one of the samples, for example the
Music sample
2) Create an Italian example/sample of your own
3) Write an introduction to iUI in Italian and we'll link to it from
the wiki.
4) Write an introduction in Italian directly on the wiki
5) Help translate the (planned) iUI manual into Italian
What sounds most appealing to you? Or is there another idea that you
(or anyone else) has?
Thanks,
Sean
Remi Grumeau
Welcome, Andrea.
I've been wondering what we should do about foreign language support.
There is a small group of active developers on this list, but it is a
very international group. It will be interesting to hear what some of
them have to say when/if they respond to this message (Remi? Max?)
I assume that there are no known issues with localizing iUI apps, if
there are please let us know.
I can think of a handful ways that you could help with Italian docs and
samples:
1) Create an Italian version of one of the samples, for example the
Music sample
2) Create an Italian example/sample of your own
3) Write an introduction to iUI in Italian and we'll link to it from
the wiki.
4) Write an introduction in Italian directly on the wiki
5) Help translate the (planned) iUI manual into Italian
Maximilian Melcher
Nice guesture to introduce yourself - I would do the German part, but I think localization is not that important (code and doc).
I for my part did a localized German page for a big company here - iUI is ready for that. But I think a localized theme, just as example could be great.
Cheers
Max
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Sean Gilligan
>>
>> 1) Create an Italian version of one of the samples, for example the
>> Music sample
>
> Want me to make on in french ? Could be done in a couple of minutes...
I'm not sure how useful that would be to French developers. If you
think it might be useful and you make one, I'll add it to the samples
folder. A better solution of course would be a way to make the
language pluggable. I've done this in desktop, web, and Java apps, but
never in a Javascript/Ajax app.
-- Sean
Sean Gilligan
>> 5) Help translate the (planned) iUI manual into Italian
>
Actually, I just translated the whole manual into French, German,
Italian, and Japanese! It's easy now, because there is no manual ;-)
-- Sean
Remi Grumeau
>>> 5) Help translate the (planned) iUI manual into Italian
>>
>
> Actually, I just translated the whole manual into French, German,
> Italian, and Japanese! It's easy now, because there is no manual ;-)
>
> -- Sean
Dude … you speak 5 languages ? o 0
Remi Grumeau
Well: the cleanest way would be XML with a script that converts it into an object.
Then "echo i18n->Music;" would do the trick.
btw, i think iUI have more important things to focus on than i18n ;-) (fullscreen, photo album slide, documentation, …)
Remi
Sean Gilligan
>>>> 1) Create an Italian version of one of the samples, for example the
>>>> Music sample
>>>>
>>> Want me to make on in french ? Could be done in a couple of minutes...
>>>
>> language pluggable. I've done this in desktop, web, and Java apps, but
>> never in a Javascript/Ajax app.
>>
>> -- Sean
>>
>
> Well: the cleanest way would be XML with a script that converts it into an object.
> Then "echo i18n->Music;" would do the trick.
>
>
My #1 focus has been moving to a DVCS and adding hooks for extensions so
others can contribute asynchronously and help set the priorities.
Documentation is important, too. (And forms, because they were seriously
broken.)
What do we need to do in iUI for fullscreen. It's just markup, right?
-- Sean
Remi Grumeau
>
> -- Sean
The fullscreen talks was more about the transition to get to fullscreen, as a leak of choice in the kind of transitions iUI offers. JQTouch has a lot. A pretty cool thing would be to choose between top, left, right, bottom, alpha, fadein, fadeout …
Is there any way already done in iUI that can hide the toolbar ? I think this is what (i don't remeber who ask for that) was asking about nope ?
Sean Gilligan
>> Remi Grumeau wrote:
>>
>>>> 5) Help translate the (planned) iUI manual into Italian
>>>>
>>>
>> Actually, I just translated the whole manual into French, German,
>> Italian, and Japanese! It's easy now, because there is no manual ;-)
>>
>> -- Sean
>>
>
>
The truth is a speak about 1.3 languages. English + 0.25 Spanish + 0.05
French = 1.3 (and I'm being generous in my scores for all three languages)
I'm always impressed by folks who communicate on mailing lists in
English when it is not their native language. If I ever ask someone to
clarify something, I do not mean it as a negative comment in any way. I
really appreciate our international group members!
-- Sean
Sean Gilligan
>> What do we need to do in iUI for fullscreen. It's just markup, right?
>>
>> -- Sean
>>
>
> The fullscreen talks was more about the transition to get to fullscreen, as a leak of choice in the kind of transitions iUI offers.
I'm not sure what you mean by "leak of choice"... ??
> JQTouch has a lot. A pretty cool thing would be to choose between top, left, right, bottom, alpha, fadein, fadeout �
>
Yes, I'd love to see configurable transitions and that could be the main
feature of an 0.5 release. I don't want to think about it much, though
until 0.40 is out. If someone wants to fork/clone and create something:
go for it, I'd love to see it.
> Is there any way already done in iUI that can hide the toolbar ? I think this is what (i don't remeber who ask for that) was asking about nope ?
>
I've hidden it with CSS mods before, but I'm not sure what the right
solution is for transitions.
-- Sean
Remi Grumeau
> English when it is not their native language. If I ever ask someone to
> clarify something, I do not mean it as a negative comment in any way. I
> really appreciate our international group members!
European people do not have that much the choice: if you want to communicate with a german/italian/french/dutch/greek/russian/... you 99% have switch to english :) I've been part of the haiku community for the last 5 years (see www.haiku-os.org) and well, you realize how much english is the global language everywhere for everyone.
Native english speakers have that for them : no need to learn english at school :D
Absolutely no relation : some form inputs examples are missing in http://iui-js.appspot.com/test/inputs.html :)
<select>, <input type="email"> and <input type="password"> since the iphone keyboard is different
(i know, it's not an "<input>" but it's definitely a form input in common use)
see http://www.remi-grumeau.com/labs/iui/#_inputs (special surprise included, change orientation to see it ;) )
Remi
Sean Gilligan
>> I'm always impressed by folks who communicate on mailing lists in
>> English when it is not their native language. If I ever ask someone to
>> clarify something, I do not mean it as a negative comment in any way. I
>> really appreciate our international group members!
>>
>
> European people do not have that much the choice: if you want to communicate with a german/italian/french/dutch/greek/russian/... you 99% have switch to english :) I've been part of the haiku community for the last 5 years (see www.haiku-os.org) and well, you realize how much english is the global language everywhere for everyone.
> Native english speakers have that for them : no need to learn english at school :D
>
Yes, but we end up mono-lingual :(
> Absolutely no relation : some form inputs examples are missing in http://iui-js.appspot.com/test/inputs.html :)
> <select>, <input type="email"> and <input type="password"> since the iphone keyboard is different
> (i know, it's not an "<input>" but it's definitely a form input in common use)
> see http://www.remi-grumeau.com/labs/iui/#_inputs (special surprise included, change orientation to see it ;) )
>
I'd love to see this get merged in to samples or tests. Why don't you
merge it in in your Mercurial clone?
I didn't see the special surprise in the simulator, do I need to try it
on my phone or am I missing something?
-- Sean
Remi Grumeau
What's the point of speaking 13 languages if your native one is commonly used everywhere ? :)
>
>> Absolutely no relation : some form inputs examples are missing in http://iui-js.appspot.com/test/inputs.html :)
>> <select>, <input type="email"> and <input type="password"> since the iphone keyboard is different
>> (i know, it's not an "<input>" but it's definitely a form input in common use)
>> see http://www.remi-grumeau.com/labs/iui/#_inputs (special surprise included, change orientation to see it ;) )
>>
>
> I'd love to see this get merged in to samples or tests. Why don't you
> merge it in in your Mercurial clone?
'cause it was 2AM and i've just done it as i wrote my latest email ;) Will do it today, following hg instructions you gave me days ago.
Anyway, all you'll find posted here by me can be freely copy/paste !!
> I didn't see the special surprise in the simulator, do I need to try it
> on my phone or am I missing something?
input & select widths change to use to maximum size as possible
>
> -- Sean
Remi Grumeau
I've made the first step to bugfix the default CSS file on Firefox.
Main issues were missing duplicate -moz definition for all -webkit ones.
You can see the result here : http://www.remi-grumeau.com/iphone/.
Got real life things to do now but i hope i can fix all form issues tonight or this weekend.
Remi
ps: it was supposed to work only on Firefox 3.6.x since all CSS3 classes were not supposed to be part of Firefox 3.5.x but it seems to work pretty well here on both :)
Mark Tomlin
width buttons try doing 50%, that will make it 50% of screen width, no
matter how big the screen is. (Like, using iUI apps on a desktop
becomes a lot more sane.)
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Remi Grumeau
It would also be useful to integrate them in a div so they could be centered on the screen. If not, they would be aligned on the left.
Chrome support was already ok since it's using webkit too ;)
Remi