The Archives: "Your services are not needed"

[Pratyatosa Dasa ACBSP]

Here is the reply from the Bhaktivedanta Archives to an offer that I made 2 years ago. If they don't need any help, then why is it taking so long to do what they say that they are going to do?

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eddy Gaasbeek
Date: Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Preserving Srila Prabhupada's Precious Legacy
To: Pratyatosa Dasa ACBSP <praty...@gmail.com>
Cc: Madhuha Dasa, Paul Tombleson

Dear Pratyatosa Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Thank you very much for your email via Madhuha Prabhu.

We sincerely appreciate your offer, however Parama-rupa and I are
already working on this programme right now.  All that data will be made
available when this project is completed.

Thank you very much.
May this meet you well.

Your servant,
Ekanatha dasa


Madhuha Dasa wrote:
> Dear Ekanatha Prabhu,
>
> Hare Krishna!  Please accept my obeisances.  All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
>
> You never know where some donations and service for the Archives may
> come from.
>
> I just received the below email from Pratyatosa Prabhu.  I really do
> not understand how the Archives works, but he may have some good ideas
> to help your program into the future, and keep Srila Prabhupada's
> legacy alive.
>
> Your servant
> Madhuha dasa
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Pratyatosa Dasa ACBSP <praty...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Preserving Srila Prabhupada's Precious Legacy To: Madhuha Dasa
>
>
> Dear Madhuha Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories
>  to Srila Prabhupada!
>
>  I haven't contacted any of the Bhaktivedanta Archives devotees about
>  this proposal, so please feel free to forward this email to any of
>  them as you see fit.
>
>  I very much appreciate the many good things that the Bhaktivedanta
>  Archive devotees have done, especially for all of the wonderful work
>  that they have done in creating the VedaBase.
>
>  What I am proposing below is that I move down there temporarily, and
>  try to be of service doing something that very urgently needs to be
>  done. I have consulted with a number of devotees who are very
>  concerned with the situation at the Archives, and who consider my
>  proposal to be a good solution to a very big problem. I am due to sign
>  a year's lease on an apartment on April 15th, so time is of the
>  essence.
>
>  Are you willing to contact the BA devotees and ask them whether or not
>  they would be willing to accept my service on a temporary, trial
>  basis?
>
>  Please keep in mind, as you read this, that the trend is for all
>  digital media to be, in the future, distributed for free on the
>  Internet, or for just slightly above the cost of the media. Google
>  keeps coming out with more and more great software, and it's always
>  free. A few days ago, I was talking with a student at Michigan
>  Technological University (http://www.mtu.edu/), and he said that
>  Microsoft is going to, in the future, be forced to make all of its
>  software available for free also. It's just a matter of time!
>
>  In the early 80s, I learned from a Detroit police officer who worked
>  in the police IT department about a good way to preserve digital
>  media, in this case computer software. First, if the software was copy
>  protected, he would crack it, so an unlimited number of copy
>  protection free copies could be made. Then he would give copies to all
>  of his friends! This meant that he only needed to keep one copy,
>  because if he ever lost it, he could very easily get a copy from one
>  of his friends!
>
>  Using this same technique, all of the high quality lossless copies of
>  Srila Prabhupada's legacy should be made available on the Internet and
>  on DVDs made available for slightly above the cost of the media. These
>  digital versions should then be distributed as widely as possible so
>  that there is the best possible chance that at least a few copies
>  would survive, even if there was a nuclear war and/or a complete
>  economic collapse.
>
>  Therefore, here is the service that I propose that I do for the
>  Archives, for Srila Prabhupada, and for the entire community of
>  devotees:
>
>  1. Copy the original audio tapes to a high quality lossless digital
>  format such as FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec). The quality must be
>  such that even an expert cannot tell the difference between the
>  original tape and the digital copy.
>
>  2. Make the digital copies available for downloading on a special
>  website created specifically for this purpose.
>
>  3. Make the digital copies available via an on-line catalog on DVDs at
>  a price just slightly above the cost of the blank DVDs.
>
>  4. Send the DVDs out to subscribers via a newly resurrected
>  Bhaktivedanta Tape Ministry subscription service at a price just
>  slightly above the cost of the blank DVDs. (optional)
>
>  5. After all of the original audio tapes have been converted to
>  digital, do the same thing for all of the films / video tapes.
>
>  6. After all of the films / video tapes have been converted to
>  digital, do the same thing for all of the photographic negatives and
>  when no negatives are available, to the original photographic prints.
>
>  7. After all of the original negatives / photographs have been
>  converted to digital, do the same thing for all of the written / typed
>  documents.
>
>
>  Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
>
>
>  Here is an example of one of the many encouraging emails that I have
>  gotten on this subject:
>
>  >  Pratyatosa Prabhu
>  >
>  >  I am not sure what you are asking me,   What you are proposing is to do the
>  > actual work, yes?   So, just tell him what you propose.   You may add that
>  > you are the Original Founder of the Original BTM ...
>  >
>  >  Back when we were all naive and didn't think about how much profit we could
>  > all make we all just did these things as a service for SP, a service for
>  > SP's mission and a service to the devotees of SP's mission.
>  >
>  >  With that mentality we never considered SP's audio belonged to anyone,  it
>  > was for one and for all.  When SP's secretaries recorded him they did not
>  > think in terms of selling those tapes to earn profit.  Those, like yourself,
>  > and then KK took it on, did not produce the tapes as a means of
>  > lining their pockets and filling their bank accounts.  The basic idea was
>  > that at least the ministry could break even.  They need tape decks, cassette
>  > copies, labels, etc, and what money came in went to buy these, but other
>  > than this, the whole mood of everyone involved was just to do their work as
>  > a service to SP.   Record his words, produce tapes, get the word out.   It
>  > was all about Service, and not about Money, at least not about Profit for
>  > individuals or even for the BBT.
>  >  For these reasons Krsna Kanti never worried about bootleg copies.  Devotees
>  > could go to him and buy good quality blank cassettes for just above his
>  > costs, and he bought in quantity.  He knew they were using the blank tapes
>  > to bootleg.   He didn't blink an eye.  He wasn't making a profit for
>  > himself,  he just did his service so that others could hear SP.    But, if
>  > others started making money on bootleg copies, then it would not have been
>  > right.
>  >
>  >  Still, my understanding is that you want to do this as a service again,
>  > with the idea of just getting the original word out.  To do it as a service
>  > for SP, his mission and the devotees.
>  >
>  >  What is the difficulty?
>  >
>  >  ys ... das
>
>   

[Bhaktatraveler]

Oh my Krsna! Do you not see the conditioned, motivated actions of the spirit soul? Can my brothers not tell the diference between demon and devotee? Are actions no longer louder than words?

 

This is yrs of kindergarden crap and continued liberal complacency only serves to purpetuate the problem, exasperating the congregation.

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. One Bengali gentleman has come from New York?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Mr. Sukamal Roy Chowdury.
	Prabhupāda: So I have deputed some of you to initiate. Hm?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Actually... Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: So I think Jayapatākā can do that if he likes. I have already deputed. Tell him.
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: So, deputies, Jayapatākā's name was there?
	Bhagavān: It is already on there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. His name was on that list.
	Prabhupāda: So I depute him to do this at Māyāpura, and you may go with him. I stop for the time being. Is that all right?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped doing what, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
	Prabhupāda: This initiation. I have deputed the, my disciples. Is it clear or not?
	Girirāja: It's clear.
	Prabhupāda: You have got the list of the names?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: And if by Kṛṣṇa's grace I recover from this condition, then I shall begin again, or I may not be pressed in this condition to initiate. It is not good.
	Girirāja: We will explain to him so that he will understand properly.
	Prabhupāda: Hm? Hm?
	Girirāja: I said we will explain to the Bengali gentleman just as you have described to us, so that he'll be satisfied with this arrangement.
	Prabhupāda: And Dr. Ghosh has his scheme, but actually the scheme is there in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We want to introduce that scheme to our Gurukula. We haven't got to manufacture scheme. Is that correct?
	Girirāja: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: Let them learn to rise early in the morning and cleanse. This is the first scheme. This will keep their health nice. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam [Bg. 4.13]. Unless in the human society the varṇāśrama system is introduced, no scheme or social order, health order or any order, political order, will be successful.

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. One Bengali gentleman has come from New York?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Mr. Sukamal Roy Chowdury.
	Prabhupāda: So I have deputed some of you to initiate. Hm?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Actually... Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: So I think Jayapatākā can do that if he likes. I have already deputed. Tell him.
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: So, deputies, Jayapatākā's name was there?
	Bhagavān: It is already on there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. His name was on that list.
	Prabhupāda: So I depute him to do this at Māyāpura, and you may go with him. I stop for the time being. Is that all right?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped doing what, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
	Prabhupāda: This initiation. I have deputed the, my disciples. Is it clear or not?
	Girirāja: It's clear.
	Prabhupāda: You have got the list of the names?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: And if by Kṛṣṇa's grace I recover from this condition, then I shall begin again, or I may not be pressed in this condition to initiate. It is not good.
	Girirāja: We will explain to him so that he will understand properly.
	Prabhupāda: Hm? Hm?
	Girirāja: I said we will explain to the Bengali gentleman just as you have described to us, so that he'll be satisfied with this arrangement.
	Prabhupāda: And Dr. Ghosh has his scheme, but actually the scheme is there in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We want to introduce that scheme to our Gurukula. We haven't got to manufacture scheme. Is that correct?
	Girirāja: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: Let them learn to rise early in the morning and cleanse. This is the first scheme. This will keep their health nice. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam [Bg. 4.13]. Unless in the human society the varṇāśrama system is introduced, no scheme or social order, health order or any order, political order, will be successful.

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. One Bengali gentleman has come from New York?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Mr. Sukamal Roy Chowdury.
	Prabhupāda: So I have deputed some of you to initiate. Hm?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Actually... Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: So I think Jayapatākā can do that if he likes. I have already deputed. Tell him.
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: So, deputies, Jayapatākā's name was there?
	Bhagavān: It is already on there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. His name was on that list.
	Prabhupāda: So I depute him to do this at Māyāpura, and you may go with him. I stop for the time being. Is that all right?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped doing what, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
	Prabhupāda: This initiation. I have deputed the, my disciples. Is it clear or not?
	Girirāja: It's clear.
	Prabhupāda: You have got the list of the names?
	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
	Prabhupāda: And if by Kṛṣṇa's grace I recover from this condition, then I shall begin again, or I may not be pressed in this condition to initiate. It is not good.
	Girirāja: We will explain to him so that he will understand properly.
	Prabhupāda: Hm? Hm?
	Girirāja: I said we will explain to the Bengali gentleman just as you have described to us, so that he'll be satisfied with this arrangement.
	Prabhupāda: And Dr. Ghosh has his scheme, but actually the scheme is there in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We want to introduce that scheme to our Gurukula. We haven't got to manufacture scheme. Is that correct?
	Girirāja: Yes.
	Prabhupāda: Let them learn to rise early in the morning and cleanse. This is the first scheme. This will keep their health nice. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam [Bg. 4.13]. Unless in the human society the varṇāśrama system is introduced, no scheme or social order, health order or any order, political order, will be successful.

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. One Bengali gentleman has come from New York?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Mr. Sukamal Roy Chowdury.

Prabhupāda: So I have deputed some of you to initiate. Hm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Actually... Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: So I think Jayapatākā can do that if he likes. I have already deputed. Tell him.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: So, deputies, Jayapatākā's name was there?

Bhagavān: It is already on there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. His name was on that list.

Prabhupāda: So I depute him to do this at Māyāpura, and you may go with him. I stop for the time being. Is that all right?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped doing what, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: This initiation. I have deputed the, my disciples. Is it clear or not?

Girirāja: It's clear.

Prabhupāda: You have got the list of the names?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: And if by Kṛṣṇa's grace I recover from this condition, then I shall begin again, or I may not be pressed in this condition to initiate. It is not good.

Girirāja: We will explain to him so that he will understand properly.

Prabhupāda: Hm? Hm?

Girirāja: I said we will explain to the Bengali gentleman just as you have described to us, so that he'll be satisfied with this arrangement.

Prabhupāda: And Dr. Ghosh has his scheme, but actually the scheme is there in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We want to introduce that scheme to our Gurukula. We haven't got to manufacture scheme. Is that correct?

Girirāja: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Let them learn to rise early in the morning and cleanse. This is the first scheme. This will keep their health nice. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam [Bg. 4.13]. Unless in the human society the varṇāśrama system is introduced, no scheme or social order, health order or any order, political order, will be successful.

 

RCB

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