Proof That the Sampradaya Sun Cannot Be Trusted

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Pratyatosa

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Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

If you look at the information about my wife's corporation, Padma, Inc., from the State of North Carolina's
official website:

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=4623992

... you will see that it doesn't say anything about "pending" or "for-profit" as is stated in the Sampradaya Sun article (See below)

This is from my daughter, one of the board members of the corporation:

Bruce Jacobs has not been a director for some years. The name was changed years ago. All the dealings of the corporation are done with the advice of a non-profit lawyer and we are wholly within the law.

In light of this, how can we believe anything that they tell us?


Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa <http://groups.google.com/group/istagosthi, http://causelessmercy.com/ http://rtvik.com/ http://pratyatosa.com/ http://feedacow.com/ http://llbest.com/>


From http://harekrsna.com/sun/features/07-10/features1793.htm :

Today's report covers ISKCON-related corporations in North Carolina, a number of which are associated with HH Bir Krishna das Goswami. One of these, Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc., is a domestic non-profit entity that was incorporated by Bruce Jacobs (Bir Krishna das Goswami) on January 9, 1991. It currently has an application pending to change the entity's legal name to Padma, Inc., and also to change its status from a non-profit to a for-profit corporation.

Given that this was an ISKCON corporation run by a GBC member, ISKCON diksa guru and swami, one would expect that the assets and profits of Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc./Padma Inc. will be under the purview of the GBC, and not absorbed into the personal wealth of its director(s)

.

.

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02 Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc.
Clusters: #36

Incorporated by Bruce Jacobs, Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc. is located at 915 Dimmocks Mill Road, Hillsborough, NC. Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc. was incorporated as a domestic non-profit on January 9, 1991 in the State of NC and is currently active. Bruce Jacobs represents the corporation as their registered agent.


03 Padma, Inc.
Clusters: #36

Application is pending whereby Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc., located at 915 Dimmocks Mill Road, Hillsborough, NC, incorporated by Bruce Jacobs, will change its name to Padma, Inc., and will change its status as a domestic non-profit to a domestic for-profit corporation. Bruce Jacobs represents both corporations as their registered agent.

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To the Pratyatosa Distribution List,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Here's the combined record showing the original non-profit and the name
change to Padma Inc. Bruce Jacobs is listed as Registered Agent:
http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=4623992

Click the link for "Jacobs, Bruce" to get his personal record as the R.A.,
and you'll see the record showing two entities: one non-profit, one "BUS"
(for-profit). Both are listed under Jacobs. No other names are
associated with the record.

On this page you will see status listed as "In process", i.e., "pending":
http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=7986296

In the event these database links expire (which they sometimes do), simply
go to the main corp. search page and type in "Padma", and follow the
links: http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/CSearch.aspx

your servant,
Jahnava

> Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All
> glories
> to Srila Prabhupada!
>
> If you look at the information about my wife's corporation, Padma, Inc.,
> from the State of North Carolina's official website:
>
> http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=4623992
>
> ... you will see that it doesn't say anything about "pending" or
> "for-profit"
> as is stated in the Sampradaya Sun article (See below)
>
> This is from my daughter, one of the board members of the corporation:

> *
> **Bruce Jacobs has not been a director for some years. The name was


> changed
> years ago. All the dealings of the corporation are done with the advice of
> a

> non-profit lawyer and we are wholly within the law.*

> *Today's report covers ISKCON-related corporations in North Carolina, a


> number of which are associated with HH Bir Krishna das Goswami. One of
> these, Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc., is a domestic non-profit
> entity that was incorporated by Bruce Jacobs (Bir Krishna das Goswami) on
> January 9, 1991. It currently has an application pending to change the
> entity's legal name to Padma, Inc., and also to change its status from a

> non-profit to a for-profit corporation. *
>
> * Given that this was an ISKCON corporation run by a GBC member, ISKCON


> diksa guru and swami, one would expect that the assets and profits of
> Iskcon
> Education of North Carolina, Inc./Padma Inc. will be under the purview of

> the GBC, and not absorbed into the personal wealth of its director(s)*
>
> *.*
>
> *.*
>
> *.*
>
> *02 Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc.
> Clusters: #36 *
>
> * Incorporated by Bruce Jacobs, Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc.


> is
> located at 915 Dimmocks Mill Road, Hillsborough, NC. Iskcon Education of
> North Carolina, Inc. was incorporated as a domestic non-profit on January
> 9,
> 1991 in the State of NC and is currently active. Bruce Jacobs represents
> the

> corporation as their registered agent. *
>
> *
> *
>
> *03 Padma, Inc.
> Clusters: #36 *
>
> * Application is pending whereby Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc.,


> located at 915 Dimmocks Mill Road, Hillsborough, NC, incorporated by Bruce
> Jacobs, will change its name to Padma, Inc., and will change its status as
> a
> domestic non-profit to a domestic for-profit corporation. Bruce Jacobs

> represents both corporations as their registered agent.*
>


Pratyatosa

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Jul 16, 2010, 10:01:29 AM7/16/10
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Dear Mother Jahnava Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

You have obviously done your homework. You didn't just "make it up" like one of my children told me. Please forgive me for falsely accusing you.

However, your saying on http://harekrsna.com/sun/features/07-10/features1793.htm that the name change from "Iskcon Education of North Carolina, Inc." to "Padma, Inc." is "pending" was pure speculation. There is no truth to it whatsoever.

As far as what http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Agent.aspx?AgentId=5246849 means, I do not know, and my children, who are all active in the running of Padma Inc. don't seem to know either. My wife and kids have been telling me for years that "Bruce Jacobs"
(Bir Krishna das Goswami) no longer has anything to do with Padma, Inc., so it's a mystery to me why he became the "Registered Agent" in 2006. Were they were under the illusion that the "Registered Agent" for a North Carolina Corporation had to reside in North Carolina?

In the mean time, I have added 
Bir Krishna Maharaja and my wife (Urmila Devi Dasi) to the list of receivers. Perhaps they can help us to clear up this mystery.

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

Pratyatosa

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Jul 16, 2010, 10:09:05 AM7/16/10
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Oops. One of the links didn't work on the forum. Here it is again:

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Agent.aspx?AgentId=5246849

Keshava Best

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Jul 16, 2010, 12:37:16 PM7/16/10
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To whom it may concern:

Considering it's not possible for a non-profit to convert to a for-profit, Sampradaya Sun is completely misinterpreting and misrepresenting the information that is present online. I just spoke with Monica at the North Carolina Secretary of State and she says that the second page is displayed due to a clerical error and in any case it's impossible for a non-profit to convert.

She says that second listing will be removed in the next week.

Keshava 

Urmila devi dasi/Dr. Edith Best

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Jul 16, 2010, 12:44:39 PM7/16/10
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Bruce Jacobs was made the agent in 2006 because at that time no other
director was living in North Carolina. Bruce Jacobs resigned from the
corporation in December, 2008, and it seems that we neglected to
register a new agent. Thank you for bringing the matter of the
registered agent to our attention. We are working with our lawyer to
rectify the situation. The name change is not pending. It was registered
in June of 2006. The corporation continues to be non-profit and there is
no plan to change that. Thank you for your interest.
your servant, Urmila devi dasi
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