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Dean

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:43:58 PM7/6/09
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Grab it here:

http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_PR3.zip

What's new:
* Misc bug fixes (with zooming, connection error messages, etc.)
* Additional UDID's

Dean

tsuehpsyde

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:46:42 PM7/6/09
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Dean,

How do I sign up for these pre-releases? :) Very interested in participating...

Robert J Bell

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:48:07 PM7/6/09
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ditto 

Dean

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:15:06 PM7/6/09
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Just send me your UDID directly to me in an email. I'll make sure
you'll be included on the next pre-release build (expecting one at
worst by the end of the week.)

At some point here I'm going to stop doing minor bug fixes and
cosmetic changes and start directly tackling the items on the road
map!

Dean

On Jul 6, 11:48 am, Robert J Bell <wasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ditto
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> On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:46 AM, tsuehpsyde wrote:
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>
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> > Dean,
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> > How do I sign up for these pre-releases? :) Very interested in  
> > participating...
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Calvin Kuo

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:42:59 PM7/6/09
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Hi Dean,
I just upgraded to an iPhone 3Gs and retired my iPhone 2G; well,
probably going to give it to dad.

I don't know why but I am not able to see the iSSH app on my iPhone.
I see it in my iTunes. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Calvin

Dean

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:46:05 PM7/6/09
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Is this in context to purchasing the app? Or in context of installing
the pre-release. The pre-release only works for those who have
registered with the beta program.

Deam

tsuehpsyde

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Jul 6, 2009, 7:05:21 PM7/6/09
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Cool, email sent! =)

Calvin Kuo

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Jul 6, 2009, 7:07:38 PM7/6/09
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Sorry, not pre-release related. I purchased and used the iSSH app on
the 2G, and not seeing it on the 3Gs.

Thanks, Calvin

André Braga

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Jul 6, 2009, 8:15:45 PM7/6/09
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On 6 jul, 15:43, Dean <canada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What's new:
> * Misc bug fixes (with zooming, connection error messages, etc.)
> * Additional UDID's

Yay :) PgUp and PgDown :D Now we're missing just Home/End.

But I think I hit some X11 bugs. I couldn't invoke the right mouse
button on Firefox, and couldn't figure out how to use the clipboard
either. And is there a way to emulate the 3rd button?

Here's what FF complained about:

(firefox-bin:72559): Gdk-CRITICAL **:
gdk_x11_xatom_to_atom_for_display: assertion `xatom != None' failed

Also, I found it exceedingly hard to copy stuff from the console. I
did manage to, as that's how I got the above message out of iSSH, but
it was not easy at all. I had to use a combination of triple-tap with
two fingers and blindingly dragging the (invisible) selection
delimiters. Why not use the default Apple selection widgets with a
blue marker instead of the gray one shown there? Two different beasts?

Still, great work, and I'm looking forward for more!


Cheers,
A. 

Dean

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Jul 6, 2009, 9:37:08 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 5:15 pm, André Braga <andrebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6 jul, 15:43, Dean <canada...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What's new:
> > * Misc bug fixes (with zooming, connection error messages, etc.)
> > * Additional UDID's
>
> Yay :) PgUp and PgDown :D Now we're missing just Home/End.
>

I'm completely revamping the keyboard setup in both the console and
eventually the VNC/X server window.

> But I think I hit some X11 bugs. I couldn't invoke the right mouse
> button on Firefox, and couldn't figure out how to use the clipboard
> either. And is there a way to emulate the 3rd button?

I hadn't noticed the right mouse button not working in Firefox. In
testing it today, I found it worked everywhere else except Firefox. I
was unable to replicate the error message you got, but none-the-less,
I was able to replicate the bug.

I haven't tied the X clipboard into the iPhone clipboard quite yet.
It exists, as you discovered, primarily in the console only at this
point.


> Also, I found it exceedingly hard to copy stuff from the console. I
> did manage to, as that's how I got the above message out of iSSH, but
> it was not easy at all. I had to use a combination of triple-tap with
> two fingers and blindingly dragging the (invisible) selection
> delimiters. Why not use the default Apple selection widgets with a
> blue marker instead of the gray one shown there? Two different beasts?

This is probably because I haven't really documented the cut/paste
very well. A double tap over some text starts the text selection.
From that single point, one can drag around to increase the selected
text. There are some problems when zoomed in but you should see a
selector widget that comes up when dragging around to select text.

As for not using the stock Apple selection stuff, that's because Apple
does not make that API available. All it gives you is the menu for
"Copy/Paste/Etc" and you basically tell it where to center that
control. The Pasteboard API is sparser still. If one isn't using the
standard controls (text boxes, etc.), one is on their own with the
clipboard selection process.


> Still, great work, and I'm looking forward for more!
>

Thanks! I'm going to chew on the issues you raised while blazing
ahead with the keyboard refactoring. Still expect another beta by the
end of this week.

Dean

Tek

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Jul 7, 2009, 2:33:22 PM7/7/09
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Hi Dean,

Seems to work really well. However, am I missing something or is
PageUp/Down not in this release? Also, might you want to change your
bundle identifier from 'com.yourcompany.iSSH' to
'com.zingersoft.iSSH'... maybe?

--
Tek

Dean

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:30:25 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 11:33 am, Tek <comcraz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dean,
>
> Seems to work really well. However, am I missing something or is
> PageUp/Down not in this release? Also, might you want to change your

PgUp/PgDn is not in this release for the console though it has been
since the beginning for the X server sorry about that. I'm right in
the thick of revising the special key management for console/X server
in iSSH. I think everyone will be happy with what I have planned and
it'll allow for user customization of keys going forward! No more
missing keys. Ever!

> bundle identifier from 'com.yourcompany.iSSH' to
> 'com.zingersoft.iSSH'... maybe?
>

In theory yes. However I was one of the beta members of iPhone OS 2.0
and the iSSH code base dates back that far. The documentation on the
bundle identifier (and most of info.plist) was less-than-stellar at
that point. Maybe Mac developers were a little more familiar with the
setup but I came from the *nix, PC, and Java worlds. And the crazy
thing is that once you've submitted an app with a particular bundle
identifier, one can't change it ever again. :-/

Dean

Tek

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Jul 9, 2009, 5:43:25 AM7/9/09
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Dean,

Yay! This is nice to hear! The main problem I have with the current
layout is that you have to scroll along to use certain keys. My
favourite layout is that used by LogMeIn Ignition and if you have a
copy you may want to have a look at that as it is very intuitive and
speeds up computer usage vastly...

--
Tek

Dean

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:48:51 PM7/9/09
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I can't tell much from the screenshots of LogMeIn Ignition, but I
don't think that's the approach I'm taking. I'm plodding towards a
4.0a beta release 1 here fairly soon where people will get to try out
the interface I've been working on.

Dean
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Tek

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:18:21 AM7/10/09
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That sounds really interesting and I look forward to seeing the
revised interface...
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