Tapping twice to click

[Tom Robinson]

Hi,

With VNC over iSSH any click on the remote screen requires two taps in
iSSH: one to move the cursor, one to click.

I can't think of a time when you'd want to move the cursor but not
click? (Obviously double-clicking and click-and-drag need different
operations.)

With RDP (also on the app store) a single tap on the iPhone both moves
the cursor (though you don't actually see it) and performs a click on
the remote screen.

I find RDP's method easier to use and wish iSSH could do the same,
particularly as I'd like to drop RDP when iSSH incorporates the RDP
protocol :-)

Cheers

[Brian Mastenbrook]

I can think of a number of things which are triggered by mouse-move
only: for instance, annoying HTML mouseover-triggered menus.

This seems like a candidate for a user preference to me, though. If
you don't need it, one tap is easier to work with.

[Tom Robinson]

On 2009-09-11, at 09:08, Brian Mastenbrook wrote:

> I can think of a number of things which are triggered by mouse-move
> only: for instance, annoying HTML mouseover-triggered menus.

OK granted, but tool-tips are used a lot less frequently than clicking.

You can still hover with RDP:

<http://www.mochasoft.dk/iphone_rdp_help/help.htm>

> This seems like a candidate for a user preference to me, though. If
> you don't need it, one tap is easier to work with.

A preference is good.

Cheers

[Dean Beeler]

The VNC and X server stuff has been relatively neglected for the last couple of versions.  For version 4.1 I do have plans to make this option. 

 

Dean

[Tom Robinson]

On 2009-09-11, at 09:23, Dean Beeler wrote:

> The VNC and X server stuff has been relatively neglected for the
> last couple of versions. For version 4.1 I do have plans to make
> this option.

Cool, thanks. I can wait :-)

[Michael Martin]

And you are assuming one is using Windows... X11 window interaction is
sensitive to mouse location. Place mouse over window A, typing goes to
window A. Place it over window B, typing goes to window B.

Yes, a preference is preferable. Not all OS's handle this the same.

[Tom Robinson]

On 2009-09-11, at 09:27, Michael Martin wrote:

> And you are assuming one is using Windows... X11 window interaction is
> sensitive to mouse location. Place mouse over window A, typing goes to
> window A. Place it over window B, typing goes to window B.

Shudder (to that assumption). Actually I thought through both Mac and
Windows but had missed X11.

Anyway, Dean's said it will be a preference which I should have
suggested initially.

Cheers

[Dean Beeler]

And while we're on the topic of VNC, the 3GS has 256MB of memory, which leaves more than enough memory for multiple VNC sessions of 5120x1600 (two 30" monitors side-by-side) viewports.  Is there actually an interest in multiple VNC sessions along side multiple SSH sessions?

Dean

[Michael Martin]

It is not something I would use offhand.

[spiro]

Is there a way to consistently double click and it take? When I try
sometimes, I get a small mouse movement over the button, menu option,
html link rather than a click (it registers as two mouse movements).
Also Some time a single tap will move the mouse and click, other times
it will move only. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known
issue?

[spiro]

Is there an ETA for 4.1? Please see problems I am having with double
tap to click items from Nov 6 1pm post. Thanks.

Spiro

On Sep 10, 1:23 pm, Dean Beeler <canada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The VNC and X server stuff has been relatively neglected for the last couple
> of versions.  For version 4.1 I do have plans to make this option.
>
> Dean
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Brian Mastenbrook

> <bmastenbr...@gmail.com>wrote:

[Dean]

No specific ETA for 4.1 as of yet. I had hoped for something sooner
but moving across country has interfered with such plans. None-the-
less, a release is near, though I may have to hold off on the NX
support just yet.

Dean

[Spiro Kourtessis]

Is there a workaround for this issue?

> Is there a way to consistently double click and it take? When I try
> sometimes, I get a small mouse movement over the button, menu option,
> html link rather than a click (it registers as two mouse movements).
> Also Some time a single tap will move the mouse and click, other times
> it will move only. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known
> issue?

Spiro

[Dean]

Not so much a workaround but perhaps even a preferred way:

Double tapping on the respective virtual mouse buttons in the corner
will ensure a double click.

Dean

On Nov 8, 12:54 pm, Spiro Kourtessis <spiro.kourtes...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is there a workaround for this issue?
>
> > Is there a way to consistently double click and it take? When I try
> > sometimes, I get a small mouse movement over the button, menu option,
> > html link rather than a click (it registers as two mouse movements).
> > Also Some time a single tap will move the mouse and click, other times
> > it will move only. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known
> > issue?
>
> Spiro
>

> On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:00 PM, spiro <spiro.kourtes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is there a way to consistently double click and it take? When I try
> > sometimes, I get a small mouse movement over the button, menu option,
> > html link rather than a click (it registers as two mouse movements).
> > Also Some time a single tap will move the mouse and click, other times
> > it will move only. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known
> > issue?
>
> > On Sep 10, 1:13 pm, Tom Robinson <barefootg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2009-09-11, at 09:08, Brian Mastenbrook wrote:
>
> >>> I can think of a number of things which are triggered by mouse-move
> >>> only: for instance, annoying HTML mouseover-triggered menus.
>
> >> OK granted, but tool-tips are used a lot less frequently than  
> >> clicking.
>
> >> You can still hover with RDP:
>
> >> <http://www.mochasoft.dk/iphone_rdp_help/help.htm>
>
> >>> This seems like a candidate for a user preference to me, though. If
> >>> you don't need it, one tap is easier to work with.
>
> >> A preference is good.
>

> >> Cheers- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Spiro Kourtessis]

Thanks a lot. That works great!

Spiro

[Spiro Kourtessis]

Related question. Sometimes when I single tap to position the mouse
(not using the virtual buttons), the mouse also clicks. Other times it
doesn't. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? This happens on
winxp and mac os x.

Spiro

On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Dean <cana...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

[Dean]

There's an effective radius used to determine a "mouse move" vs. a
"mouse click" Other VNC apps deal with this the same way and others
have modes supporting alternative solutions (e.g., where you
effectively "push" the mouse around with swipes.) It's not a bug but
it does suggest there may be an input method more fitting to your
style other than the one I chose for iSSH. As always I'm open to
suggestions.

Dean

On Nov 10, 12:11 am, Spiro Kourtessis <spiro.kourtes...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Related question. Sometimes when I single tap to position the mouse  
> (not using the virtual buttons), the mouse also clicks. Other times it  
> doesn't. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? This happens on  
> winxp and mac os x.
>
> Spiro
>

[André Braga]

On 10 nov, 07:08, Dean <canada...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As always I'm open to suggestions.

*Please* steal the Jaadu methods of mouse tracking. *Please*. I'd be
eternally thankful!

For those who prefer it like it's currently done on iSSH, there's the
"touchscreen" mode on Jaadu. Otherwhise I strongly prefer the swipe-to-
track-tap-to-click method. And I also like the "invert mouse" option,
but that's just me (my brain is wired to understand "push to go up,
pull to go down", like in a flight stick).


So, thanks :)
A.