Ruby on Rails course at Hi-Tech College
Reuven M. Lerner
Rails development starting in early February. The course will be open
to the public, and initial announcements have already gone out. I will
share additional details with this group in the near future, although
it's probably safe to assume that members of this group won't need such
an introductory course.
If you know of a company that uses Ruby or Rails, and which might be
interested in such a course for their employees, then I would be happy
to receive their or contact information. We already have a list of
organizations using Ruby/Rails in Israel, but we know that there are
others out there!
Thanks in advance,
Reuven
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Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 22 Dec 2009 17:33:22 Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
> Hi, everyone. I'm going to be teaching a five-session course in Ruby on
> Rails development starting in early February. The course will be open
> to the public, and initial announcements have already gone out. I will
> share additional details with this group in the near future, although
> it's probably safe to assume that members of this group won't need such
> an introductory course.
>
1. By the course being "open to the public" you don't mean it's free-of-
charge, right? How much does it cost per head? (Feel free to reply to that
off-list).
2. Despite your assumption, I still don't know Rails, and only have a
rudimentary control of Ruby. So I may be interested, also because I know that
even introductory talks can spark some insights and discussions. However, my
question is naturally how much spoon-feeding does the course involve and what
is its target audience? The reason I ask is because I can be taught such
things at a pretty fast pace, and would get tired of a slow pace.
> If you know of a company that uses Ruby or Rails, and which might be
> interested in such a course for their employees, then I would be happy
> to receive their or contact information. We already have a list of
> organizations using Ruby/Rails in Israel, but we know that there are
> others out there!
>
Perhaps a wiki would be the best idea here. Doron Ofek from Hamakor has
started to collect a list of companies that use FOSS in Israel - maybe you can
join him.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Reuven M. Lerner
> 1. By the course being "open to the public" you don't mean it's free-of-
> charge, right? How much does it cost per head? (Feel free to reply to that
> off-list).
>
To be honest, I don't know how much that class costs. If you're
interested, you can contact Hi-Tech College, and ask them.
> 2. Despite your assumption, I still don't know Rails, and only have a
> rudimentary control of Ruby. So I may be interested, also because I know that
> even introductory talks can spark some insights and discussions. However, my
> question is naturally how much spoon-feeding does the course involve and what
> is its target audience? The reason I ask is because I can be taught such
> things at a pretty fast pace, and would get tired of a slow pace.
>
I'd like to think that the course will cover a fair amount of ground.
I'm also structuring the course such that there's a large project-based
component, in which you spend a fair amount of time working on something
that's of interest to you (obviously, with help from me), and then
presenting it to others. I've often found that this is a good way to
let people work at their own pace, and to do things in a basic or
advanced way that suits their personal style and needs. But even with a
large project component, there will still be a fair amount of lecture,
discussion, and just general exercises.
The nature of a class like this is that some people will inevitably feel
like it's too fast, and others will feel it's too slow. (It's hard to
get the balance just right.) If you have previously found some
programming classes to be too slow for you, then I'm not sure if this is
the best venue for you.
> Perhaps a wiki would be the best idea here. Doron Ofek from Hamakor has
> started to collect a list of companies that use FOSS in Israel - maybe you can
> join him.
Fantastic idea! Thanks, Shlomi!
Reuven
Shlomi Fish
Sorry for the late-ish response.
On Tuesday 22 Dec 2009 21:26:11 Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
> Hi, Shlomi (and everyone). You wrote:
> > 1. By the course being "open to the public" you don't mean it's free-of-
> > charge, right? How much does it cost per head? (Feel free to reply to
> > that off-list).
>
> No, it's not free of charge. Sorry for not being clearer about that.
>
I see.
> To be honest, I don't know how much that class costs. If you're
> interested, you can contact Hi-Tech College, and ask them.
>
OK, maybe I will and also inform the list. If I will I'll also ask about
discounts for students, soldiers, etc.
> > 2. Despite your assumption, I still don't know Rails, and only have a
> > rudimentary control of Ruby. So I may be interested, also because I know
> > that even introductory talks can spark some insights and discussions.
> > However, my question is naturally how much spoon-feeding does the course
> > involve and what is its target audience? The reason I ask is because I
> > can be taught such things at a pretty fast pace, and would get tired of a
> > slow pace.
>
> I'd like to think that the course will cover a fair amount of ground.
> I'm also structuring the course such that there's a large project-based
> component, in which you spend a fair amount of time working on something
> that's of interest to you (obviously, with help from me), and then
> presenting it to others. I've often found that this is a good way to
> let people work at their own pace, and to do things in a basic or
> advanced way that suits their personal style and needs. But even with a
> large project component, there will still be a fair amount of lecture,
> discussion, and just general exercises.
>
I see.
> The nature of a class like this is that some people will inevitably feel
> like it's too fast, and others will feel it's too slow. (It's hard to
> get the balance just right.) If you have previously found some
> programming classes to be too slow for you, then I'm not sure if this is
> the best venue for you.
>
Well, my only experience is from the Technion programming classes in my EE
degree (mostly given by the EE department, where they are not as hard or
intensive as the ones given by the CS department), and free-of-charge
presentations in various computer-related meetups, some of which were more
advanced, but mostly they were less structured and comprehensive. I have yet
to attend a commercial training course.
So it seems to me that if I intended to learn RoR, I would do it from a book,
etc. instead of attending your course. I had a relatively good experience in
learning things this way, and a course would imply a larger time overhead for
me.
> > Perhaps a wiki would be the best idea here. Doron Ofek from Hamakor has
> > started to collect a list of companies that use FOSS in Israel - maybe
> > you can join him.
>
> Fantastic idea! Thanks, Shlomi!
>
You're welcome.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 16:32:54 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi Reuven (and everyone)!
>
> Sorry for the late-ish response.
>
> On Tuesday 22 Dec 2009 21:26:11 Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
> > Hi, Shlomi (and everyone). You wrote:
> > > 1. By the course being "open to the public" you don't mean it's
> > > free-of- charge, right? How much does it cost per head? (Feel free to
> > > reply to that off-list).
> >
> > No, it's not free of charge. Sorry for not being clearer about that.
>
> I see.
>
> > To be honest, I don't know how much that class costs. If you're
> > interested, you can contact Hi-Tech College, and ask them.
>
> OK, maybe I will and also inform the list. If I will I'll also ask about
> discounts for students, soldiers, etc.
>
OK, I did just that. And here's the complete story: I phoned Hi Tech college
to the phone I found on their web-site (which seems to work OKish in Firefox
on Linux) and was answered by a female voice. I asked her what was the price
for the course, and she asked me this course was that. Saying "Ruby" and
"Reuven Lerner" was not enough and I had to search for the course on the site,
and find the course number.
After I did that, she said she cannot tell me the price (which was not written
on the course page) over the phone, and asked me for my E-mail and then asked
if I was an individual or whether my company sent me. I gave her my
shl...@iglu.org.il E-mail and she said that she'll send the price offer to
me.
That was a few days ago (before the weekend). I didn't get an email from her
yet, and today I grepped my spam folder for anything from hitech college and
could not find anything from them. I did find a different legit message that
had been filed as spammed from a recruitment agency (which I now added their
domain to my whitelist), but nothing from hi-tech college or regarding "ruby".
It is possible that my E-mail address was misspelt or that it was flagged as
spam by one of the relays (my hostmaster recently enabled a nasty Real-Time
Blacklist Spam, which caused me to lose a lot of mail, so maybe that was
another victim). Still, this experience has been less than stellar and I am
unable to report the prices to this forum at this point.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Zvi
most likely will not start at Feb 7th.
On Dec 22 2009, 5:33 pm, "Reuven M. Lerner" <reu...@lerner.co.il>
wrote:
Reuven M. Lerner
> I spoke with the representative oh Hi-Tech colledge and he said it
> most likely will not start at Feb 7th.
that the course will be pushed off for another month or two.
Meanwhile, I'm working with the people there to do some marketing of
both Ruby and Rails to the general Israeli public; once I have more
details, of what will happen (and when), I'll be sure to inform this group.
Reuven
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