iPhone safari html assumptions and wishes

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Pelle Braendgaard

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Jun 19, 2007, 2:14:08 PM6/19/07
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Without any specific knowledge these are some standard html features,
that I assume with some certainty after the demos that we are able to
use:

- callto: url's for making calls from our apps
- mailto: fully working as it should be
- Google maps links are intercepted by the built in Google Map app.
- YouTube videos are somehow intercepted by built in YouTube support

When they zoom in on sections in the demos I assume it basically
allows zooming into div's or other elements of a certain minimum size.

Wishlist:

These are features that would be really sweet to have:

* Microformat format for at least hCard and hCalendar as a bare minimum.

Non standard wishes. I know non standard is bad, but these would help
out if we want to make really iPhone like applications. Also Apple
like all other browser vendors has a history of adding non standard
features:
* :portrait and :landscape nonstandard css pseudo classes would help out a lot
* iphone css media type.

Anyone else have any insights or ideas?

p

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Neven

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Jun 19, 2007, 2:17:55 PM6/19/07
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I'm hoping iPhone recognizes phone numbers and addresses even when
they are not explicitly linked via callto: or google map urls. This
functionality is there in Leopard's Mail, so it would make sense to
put in on iPhone.

On Jun 19, 11:14 am, "Pelle Braendgaard" <pel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Without any specific knowledge these are some standard html features,
> that I assume with some certainty after the demos that we are able to
> use:
>
> - callto: url's for making calls from our apps
> - mailto: fully working as it should be
> - Google maps links are intercepted by the built in Google Map app.
> - YouTube videos are somehow intercepted by built in YouTube support
>
> When they zoom in on sections in the demos I assume it basically
> allows zooming into div's or other elements of a certain minimum size.
>
> Wishlist:
>
> These are features that would be really sweet to have:
>
> * Microformat format for at least hCard and hCalendar as a bare minimum.
>
> Non standard wishes. I know non standard is bad, but these would help
> out if we want to make really iPhone like applications. Also Apple
> like all other browser vendors has a history of adding non standard
> features:
> * :portrait and :landscape nonstandard css pseudo classes would help out a lot
> * iphone css media type.
>
> Anyone else have any insights or ideas?
>
> p
>

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Kevin Darling

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Jun 19, 2007, 3:06:28 PM6/19/07
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On Jun 19, 2:17 pm, Neven <neven.mr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm hoping iPhone recognizes phone numbers and addresses even when
> they are not explicitly linked via callto: or google map urls. This
> functionality is there in Leopard's Mail, so it would make sense to
> put in on iPhone.

The Blackberry does that as well. The first time I saw it on a web
page, highlighing the phone numbers, I thought "how cool". One day
it didn't do it for a demo we had. Turned out it was a bogus demo
areacode and the Blackberry knew it. Nice touch.

Ted Tschopp

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Jun 19, 2007, 3:40:33 PM6/19/07
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On Jun 19, 11:14 am, "Pelle Braendgaard" <pel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Non standard wishes. I know non standard is bad, but these would help
> out if we want to make really iPhone like applications. Also Apple
> like all other browser vendors has a history of adding non standard
> features:
> * :portrait and :landscape nonstandard css pseudo classes would help out a lot
> * iphone css media type.
>
> Anyone else have any insights or ideas?
>


If they return a browser resize event when you go from landscape to
portrait you can then write a small JavaScript event to watch for that
event and swap out a base class on the body tag. That seems very
doable.

As for media types, I hope the device does something special with the
handheld media type.

I thought there was already a phone:// protocol for handling phone
call links, I googled for it, but didn't find anything. Perhaps
someone else smarter than I can point that out. Or point out how much
swiss cheese resembles my brain.

As for my wishes, I hope that the we can embed Quicktime into a page
and use it as a sound library much like http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/

I also hope that the quicktime .MOV player supports the Quicktime
Interactive bits. Giving us access to a Flash like development
enviroment.

Also, I hope that if we get to support the embedding of .MOV files,
that we get support for things like the enablejavascript=true
property.

I hope the phone recognizes the mime types for .ics and vcard. If I
get that than the support for microformat can be bypassed.

Pelle

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Jun 19, 2007, 3:57:26 PM6/19/07
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The defacto phone protocal in url's seems to be callto:, I really do
hope they support that. Skype and just about all other VOIP providers
support that.

You are right about .ics and .vcf support being great (I'm almost
certain they would support that). However microformats would be very
cool and also efficient (no need for a separate http request).

P

On Jun 19, 12:40 pm, Ted Tschopp <tedtsch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 11:14 am, "Pelle Braendgaard" <pel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Non standard wishes. I know non standard is bad, but these would help
> > out if we want to make really iPhone like applications. Also Apple
> > like all other browser vendors has a history of adding non standard
> > features:
> > * :portrait and :landscape nonstandard css pseudo classes would help out a lot
> > * iphone css media type.
>
> > Anyone else have any insights or ideas?
>
> If they return a browser resize event when you go from landscape to
> portrait you can then write a small JavaScript event to watch for that
> event and swap out a base class on the body tag. That seems very
> doable.
>
> As for media types, I hope the device does something special with the
> handheld media type.
>
> I thought there was already a phone:// protocol for handling phone
> call links, I googled for it, but didn't find anything. Perhaps
> someone else smarter than I can point that out. Or point out how much
> swiss cheese resembles my brain.
>
> As for my wishes, I hope that the we can embed Quicktime into a page

> and use it as a sound library much likehttp://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/

Neven

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Jun 21, 2007, 6:03:23 PM6/21/07
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The url protocol for placing phonecalls seems to be "tel:" It will
accept non-numerals, e.g. "tel:1-573-555-0981".

Google Maps links are parsed automatically.

Jon Callas

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Jun 21, 2007, 7:04:52 PM6/21/07
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On 6/21/07, Neven <neven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The url protocol for placing phonecalls seems to be "tel:" It will
> accept non-numerals, e.g. "tel:1-573-555-0981".

Will it accept letters, like "tel:1-800-CALL-XYZ"?

Jon

Christopher Allen

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Jun 21, 2007, 8:20:20 PM6/21/07
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I have added the question to the iPhone Open Questions document at http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev/web/iphone-open-questions

It also inspired me to ask the question:

Q: The url for email is "mailto:" -- does the iPhone support RFC 2368 extended mailto: schemes like <mailto:list...@example.com?subject=unsubscribe> function properly?

-- Christopher Allen



Neven

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Jun 21, 2007, 8:56:38 PM6/21/07
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I don't think so; I don't know for sure, though.

On Jun 21, 4:04 pm, "Jon Callas" <jon.cal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Neven <neven.mr...@gmail.com> wro

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