NO Java and no Java Applets on the IPhone

[tonya]

I have been just informed by apple that there is NO Java in the IPhone
version Safari and Java Applets are not supported. Is there a possible
workaround? I have a great remote desktop application I developed and
would like to run on the IPhone.
Tony

[uDt.SEAL...@gmail.com]

I hate to be rude, but haven't we all known this to be the case since
before the release of the iPhone? I know that I sure have, I don't
know aboutthe rest of you.

[thg]

On Jul 14, 7:49 pm, "KrisZ...@mac.com" <uDt.SEAL.team....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> haven't we all known this to be the case since
> before the release of the iPhone?

I think it was made clear there would be no Java already in January
2007.

[Randle]

iPhone has no java, but when I'm on a web site and I delete a message or note a pop up comes up saying jscascript "are you sure you want to delete this message"

Sent from my iPhone

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[Jeremy B]

Java and javascript are not same thing... Google it and I'm sure
you'll there will be something that will explain it...

Jeremy Bueler
http://jbueler.com

Sent from my iPhone

[DRichPro...@gmail.com]

No Java
No Flash
No Workarounds

D. Rich

On Jul 15, 11:17 am, Jeremy B <jbue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Java and javascript are not same thing... Google it and I'm sure
> you'll there will be something that will explain it...
>

> Jeremy Buelerhttp://jbueler.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone

>
> On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Randle <boy2ro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > iPhone has no java, but when I'm on a web site and I delete a
> > message or note a pop up comes up saying jscascript "are you sure
> > you want to delete this message"
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>

> > On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:49 PM, "KrisZ...@mac.com" <uDt.SEAL.team....@gmail.com

[BikingBill]

I, for one, will miss the stability and portability of J2ME ;-)

I do know of one game company that "bet the bank" that Flash would be
embedded in iPhone's Quicktime and produced a catalog of "iPhone
Games" that simply don't work on the iPhone.

Must be venture funded.

Bill

[Randy Walker]

Don't count them out yet. If apple/adobe make nice, that company would be
in a good position.
-=Randy

[Edward]

At first I thought the absence of Flash was just a technical issue
(Apple didn't want strange rendering problems causing people to say
"hey, look! the iphone interface sucks!), and I still think this might
be a factor, but now that I've activated my iPhone and played around
with it, it seems that a deal with ATT might have been a large factor
as well.

Allowing Flash into the mix would take away a lot of Apple/ATT's
control over your "media experience". They've already given up the
internets, but my guess is ATT is forcing Apple to keep the gates only
half-open on the online video / audio / conferencing front.

On Jul 16, 3:53 pm, Randy Walker <cleverda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't count them out yet. If apple/adobe make nice, that company would be
> in a good position.
> -=Randy
>

[Chuckles Nabaztag]

Why everyone is so willing to pawn off Apple's ills on ATT is beyond me.

Flash isn't on *Apple's* phone because *Apple* didn't want it there :)

[BikingBill]

Apple has expressed a desire to support open standards. Flash is a
standard, but not an open one.

[Chuckles Nabaztag]

Regardless of that, the assertion was that somehow 'evil att' was
stopping 'good apple' from flash inclusion since it
would...matter...to att in some way if or not it was there.

The reality is that att sells many phones, low, medium and high end,
that support feature's that apple's phone does not.

Apple's phone doesn't do these things because apple doesn't want it to.

The only ATT "branding" on the iPhone at all are he letters "ATT" at
the upper left of the screen on practically every screen.

Additionally, the notion of the quiet apple/adobe war having
something to do with this is wacky as well; apple could have included
at the minimum flash 7 support since there is a working open version
of it that functions as a plugin (even on arm arch) and has been for
several years.

[DaveFD]

Chuckles,

No offense - but have you ever used Flash in OS X? Memory hog, memory
leaks, CPU killer....

Is this Apple's fault/decision? Most definitely. But you sound like
you are actually deeply critical of the decision because Apple decided
they wanted a 1.0 device to not crash in one way or another. Flash on
a mobile device is usable - barely. Flash via EDGE? Ouch!

I suspect there will be some kind of Flash offering on iPhone someday.
But I can live without it.

Oh yeah, and AT&T is only at fault because their 3G network coverage
is below average. For now.

As for the OP.... on July 14 you were _just_ informed about all this?
Wow.

[Chuckles Nabaztag]

Offense...taken :)

My issue is with (again, as I stated) people that believe the lack of
flash, 3rd party tools, or anything else *not* on the phone really
has anything to do with ATT at all :)

Leave the fanboyism at home; I make my living off of and in the Apple
ecosystem...not that I was attacking Apple, anyway :)

[DaveFD]

Didn't mean to be a fanboy. Just stating what seemed obvious to me.
Again, no offense was meant - and thanks for the warm welcome to the
forum.

[Chuckles Nabaztag]

I wasn't really offended...it was obvious to me you misread what I
typed :)

Welcome. Enjoy your stay here :D