T7250 vs T9300 is it worth?

[Zentradis]

[hp6720s C2DT7250 win7 32-bit 4gb ram (soon) x3100]
Hello brothers,
as the title says I'd like to upgrade my cpu to a t9300 as the service
manual of my hp6720s says it is the best cpu it can handle. Obviously
before doing anything I'm asking your opinion =)

[tribaljet]

T9300 is a mighty fine cpu. I've worked with a laptop powered by that
baby, and it's fast :) If that's the alternative to a T7250, don't
even think twice ;) But I hope it's not an expensive upgrade. If that
laptop could pack a medium range gpu, you'd be set to play all current
games out there.

[Zentradis]

whow lightfast reply =) thank you so much bro'
actually I'm trying to upgrade my pc before it's too late to find
suitable components, ( I NEED to play Alice Madness Returns ) and I
want the lappy to be fully upgraded and functional for future usage.
The only thing I'm worried about is overheating and the disassembling
(I've got the service manual but I'm scared a lot so every advice
would be precious )
I'm planning to do this next week or so, it all depends if I can find
the cpu at a decent price
I'm also planning on a DIY Vidock for the future but that's another
story and it all depends on how will AMR perform on my lappy
(and obviously 9xxssf is becoming my 2nd home so I won't ever leave
all of you brothers no matter what, you are becoming more and more
precious to me )

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[tribaljet]

You're lucky to have a multimedia series HP, those are significantly
easier to disassemble, compared to my HP 530, which is like a puzzle,
and to get access to the fan, I have to tear apart the whole thing :'(
Anyway, that's definitely one game I'll have to keep for posterity :)
Curiously, I haven't heard that many good things about the Vidock, but
I've heard they've developed a new model.
So, what are the specs of that laptop? Because you know that cpu only
goes so far when it comes to gaming. T9300 doesn't overheat that much,
quite significant power management improvements over previous
generations, and if you really want to play it safe, get a Zalman
(NC1000/NC1500, I think) cooling pad, or a Nox Boreas (I think), those
are "hardcore" cooling pads, which paired with clean vents and
conscious undervolting, makes for a quite cool running machine.

[THEfog .]

Disassembling a Laptop is easy, just make sure that before you start,
you grab a piece of paper and draw and label separate compartments for
each separate set of screws. it is never a good thing to finish
re-assembling a laptop only to realize that you have a extra screw.
Also remember to take notes of difficult or tricky parts as this
become's in-valuable during re-assembly.

Also dont forget to ask here if you are unsure about anything at all!
im sure all the moderators here have disassembled a laptop or two
during their time :)

THEfog

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[Zentradis]

@tribaljet: the specs are on the first post, core 2 duo t7250 (t9300
if all goes well) win 7 32-bit 4gb ram (I'm going to test if
readyfor4gb works) x3100.
I hope the t9300 wil give a fps boost to the x3100 too, I've never
seen anyone with a t9300 posting gma videos on youtube...

@THEfog: thanks for your advices I'll sure ask here if in doubt

last thing: a friend of mine just bought some arctic m2 (or so)
thermal paste one week ago, we used some to assemble his desktop one
week ago, do you think I can still use the remaining or do I have to
buy it over the net again? (both cpu and gma share the same heatpipe
in my lappy so I'd like to use professional thermal paste instead of
"normal" one...)

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[Jaime Honrado]

Sounds great. I'm using an HP 6710b (If anyone has read my previous posts: I'm sorry for the confusion).

I have just upgraded mine from a T7300 to a T9300 myself. It works pretty well, and your machine is one build number higher than mine. So definitely no problem there!

As for the thermal paste question: You can definitely use that, HECK I think its better than what I used! I just used an ordinary silver paste on mine and I've been pushing it with games with no problem.

[Zentradis]

thanks bro', did you notice any improvements in games' performances?
how much did you pay for your t9300?

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[Jaime Honrado]

I didn't pay for it. My friend wrecked his dell and he gave his T9300 since he has a new i3.
Also, there's been much performance gain, but you'll definitely have stutter on games requiring more than integrated graphics.
I've been running games with a minimum WEI of 4, actually. :P

[Jose Villegas (MADBEAST)]

Hmmm bro im going to be honset with you...

how much will it cost to do those upgrades? 4GB ram and the new CPU?

if its over 200 USD dont do it....

im struggling with a i7 2.93 and 1Gb 260m GTX running Metro 2033, save
a little more and get a PS3 bro.

[Jaime Honrado]

I hate to admit it but Jose has a point. If your upgrade is gonna cost you too much better save up for a better machine.
No point in maintaining an old and aging horse if you can get a new one, if you know what I mean.

IMHO, although everyone here is enthusiastic about Integrated Graphics it isn't the best for games! No offense meant. :D

[Jaime Honrado]

Just to press my point: I've been so wanting to play X3 Reunion on my machine, but I can't play past the starting scenario because of lag. But it definitely runs. Just not as smooth as I want it when a fire fight comes my way. :C

[Jose Villegas (MADBEAST)]

Jaime why you hate admitting im right?

why dont you join Folding@home with your machine?

[Jaime Honrado]

Oh, I admit you are right. Actually all my posts were to say that Zentradis should rethink upgrading if he's gonna buy more than he needs. I'm sorry if it came out wrong.

I don't think I can join folding@home and actually help. I'm sorry, but I move around a lot so I can't leave my machine to do its work. >_<
I'm also afraid it'll bog me down if I need to work and forget I have it running. It happens too with my torrents.

[Jose Villegas (MADBEAST)]

hahahaha no worries i though it was fun to face you that way...

yeah right i do have to move often i travel at least 2 times week and
leave country 3 months of a year at least....

is it lack of infornmation or a sense of selfhiness? because you can
work easily without being affected at all.... my PS3 and M15x, and 2
945s laptops are ON most of the time folding while im doing something
else.... that not excuse kid :) but no worries its your pc and at the
end you decide to help a cause or not, it just that is a shame that
despite the hard campaign i brought to 9xxssf for F@H there is people
not willing to contibute for something at costs 0$...
im a person that really really appreciates the labor of others for the
good of the people without expection anything at all, im the kind who
rather fall in combat that live running and thank God i have a team of
28 good men folding some of them folding too hard and i respect that
others folding a little and i do respect that too...

God Bless you kid... hope 1 day you chjange your mind !

[Jaime Honrado]

Hahaha. I just realized the joke after reviewing the posts. Damn, I think I take things too seriously. ROFL

Anyway, I'll give Folding@Home a shot over the holy week. (It's started in my timezone already, but we don't start holidays until the day after tomorrow) I've been curious ever since I saw your post in this group. I even reposted a link to Folding in FB. lol

[tribaljet]

I understand your concern about resources being fully used up Jaime,
but don't worry too much about it, as F@H can be configured to have
spare resources for you to work fluidly while F@H runs in the
background. After all, there are plenty of people around here, like
me, that have less powerful computers than yours and can still fold
and do general usage of the computer ;)
Btw, what torrent client you use? I ask because it shouldn't affect
neither computer nor internet performance, though I do know that some
to affect it adversely.

[Zentradis]

I sure do agree with your opinions brothers, but the original
intention was to upgrade the lappy before all the components get too
old to be found on market, as I don't need so much more than this, I
seldom use my pc for gaming, but I want it to be efficent and as fast
as it can be for all the other pourposes ( my only exception is Alice
Madness Returns wich i'd really like to play) ram upgrade costed like
60 euros total and I hope to get the cpu for 60/80 euros, if I can't
find it for that price, the lappy will stay as it is =) (this pc was a
gift from my father who paid 800 euros at the time and selling it now
would give me like 300 euros so I'm not going to sell it ) thanks for
all your support guys, you enlight me everytime, I'm learning a lot
here

[Jose Villegas (MADBEAST)]

Jaime... thank God i changed your mind... i can sell anything :D

Zentradis... cool bro not too much for the upgrades, i though i would
be a lot more, yeah i know that feeling i didnt want to leave my old
mighty M1210 which did cost to my father around 2300 USD when it was
the most powerful laptop under 12 inches... i love it but it was time
to scape and get the M15x my folding@home comrade, i love that
motherfucker.

[lolattheotherguy]

just a note for anyone who wants to disassemble their laptops: Take
care for the little spacers if you have any under every screw! They
can easily fall inside, even under the motherboard itself and its a
pain to fish them out. Or if you leave them in, they will make an ugly
noise when you turn your lappy upside down ;]

On Apr 19, 9:35 pm, "Jose Villegas (MADBEAST)" <josepi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

[Espionage724]

@tribajet

utorrent at times for me can bog my internet down to the point of no working :p Vuze however I think before I barely noticed (latency-wise).

[tribaljet]

I used to have issues like that in the past, up until the point I
found the best windows/linux torrent client ever, fast and lightweight
on both resources and internet bandwidth/latency :D and I'm even
helping out a bit with the development ;)
I present you... Tixati
http://tixati.com/

[Jaime Honrado]

Sounds nice, especially since we have someone who knows the code. I've been using uTorrent ever since it came out and went to the new BitTorrent client which is basically the uTorrent with different branding since I figured uTorrent isn't being supported anymore. It's a mighty fine torrent client, it just tends to runaway on its own if your not careful. :)

This Tixati... would you say its better than uTorrent? Enlighten me and everyone in this forum please, since your part of the dev team. :D

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[Jaime Honrado]

Just off topic. I need to use linux for a project at school and I've been looking at FreeBSD. I've tried ubuntu before, but I really want to learn how to use hard, and lean linux (or any unix-based OS, except for MAC... I'll save this one for when I need to). You guys have any tips or places I can get info for FreeBSD besides the main documentation pages? I plan to dual boot btw. I just cant get away from my existing productivity wares. :|

[tribaljet]

Despite BitTorrent client being supposed to be the same as uTorrent,
there are underlying changes which mainly affect security, against
BitTorrent and in favor of uTorrent for some odd reason.

About Tixati, it kicks the proverbial ass of uTorrent easily :) The
client itself is surprisingly fast, though it uses a throlling system
that's curious, to say the least. My connection has 800KB/s of
downstream, and on the first 2-3 minutes of downloading a torrent on
Tixati, the client is adjusting settings and connection numbers with
the swarm, then after that it kicks on high gear and just seems to
maintain a very healthy connection with the swarm. It's also quite
lightweight on resources, using little amounts of memory, and
surprisingly doesn't choke the internet usage, but then again, I'm
using a program and protocol bandwidth prioritizing software in tandem
with Tixati and my overall internet usage.

Given that it has both an installer and a portable version, there's no
reason not to try it. Oh, and did I mention that torrents still being
downloaded on other clients can be resumed on Tixati? ;)

Honestly, I really recommend it over any other clients, be it
BitTorrent, BitComet, uTorrent, Transmission, Deluge, etc. You guys
won't regret trying it.

[AngelicTears]

@tribaljet

i have to admit, it is a fine great piece of software u introduced us bro :))

ive always a utorrent user, but the fact that i cant use the net for emails and research made me back off from downloading, often on some point i stop downloading for a week until my work is done..lol..but Tixati, still let me use the net.. which is a surprise, i can still post here with the download still running :))

i opt out speed comparison coz my ISP are well known for being the slowest and bad support, but still, in utorrent, downloading at 19xKBps wont allow me to use the net even on the other PC...lol, with Tixati, i can, which is amazing with the same download speed ...didnt test latency yet coz no time for Online game test...but still, it is awesome...

im gonna test this for a week and see how it goes, i might even switch to it permanently :))

finally i can finish downloading Bulletstorm :)))

[tribaljet]

Great :) I'm glad you're enjoying it. I can safely say that every
single uTorrent user has had better speeds, and on the worse case
scenario it rarely goes down to the highest uTorrent speeds :D
Anyway, how did you find its memory usage?

Ah, another game to play in a nearby (distant?) future... :S

[lolattheotherguy]

I am using uTorrent for years now. I also use cfosspeed for
trafficshaping. Also don't be afraid to look inside the Advanced tab
of utorrents' settings. You can configure it really well there. I have
a 30mbit/3mbit line. I can play online games without lag (even counter
strike with the ping under 30) when im at uploading full speed.
You have to use traffic shaping (this way you won't have to cap upload
speeds), configure whatever client you are using, set up your router
properly (if you have one) and torrents won't slow your browsing, or
maybe even gaming if you have a decent line.
My monthly limit is 300gb traffic and i seed more than that almost
every month without any problems, I can't even notice torrents
running.

[Jaime Honrado]

Darn. You guys already gave it a good review and I've just been out half the day. Now I'm really tempted to change Torrent clients. :o

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Shiny <kush...@mail.com> wrote:

Idk which is faster. Tixati or utorrent (best tweaked).
Well I like to tell you guys my experience with utorrent.
It's actually pretty fast and use less memory resource then
most of torrent clients there imo but the downside is that
without tweaking the settings for faster downloads, It can
be a bit slow so tweaking it helps alot but there's also a
downside for tweaking utorrent. It really brings down your
Internet speed ALOT depends which tweaks you are using. So
it can be a pain in the dairy aire if you're bored and watch
YouTube videos or play steam,xbl or Psn online. Especially
if your torrent is over 4 gigs long. If you have a comcast
Internet provider. You are safe because comcast imo is the
fasted internet service out there, correct me if I'm wrong.

PS: I was typing all this through my iPhone ^_^


On Apr 20, 2:28 am, lolattheotherguy <lolattheother...@gmail.com>

[Daniel Estrazulas]

:O, Tixati on here, i will test it at home later.

2011/4/20 Jaime Honrado <jaimeh...@gmail.com>

[Shiny]

Idk which is faster. Tixati or utorrent (best tweaked).
Well I like to tell you guys my experience with utorrent.
It's actually pretty fast and use less memory resource then
most of torrent clients there imo but the downside is that
without tweaking the settings for faster downloads, It can
be a bit slow so tweaking it helps alot but there's also a
downside for tweaking utorrent. It really brings down your
Internet speed ALOT depends which tweaks you are using. So
it can be a pain in the dairy aire if you're bored and watch
YouTube videos or play steam,xbl or Psn online. Especially
if your torrent is over 4 gigs long. If you have a comcast
Internet provider. You are safe because comcast imo is the
fasted internet service out there, correct me if I'm wrong.

PS: I was typing all this through my iPhone ^_^


On Apr 20, 2:28 am, lolattheotherguy <lolattheother...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[tribaljet]

I've tried both BitComet, uTorrent and Azureus, and none can really
compare to Tixati, both at stock or with tweaked settings. Very low
memory footprint and non intrusive to internet usage. And I mean with
torrents at full load.
Try it, tweak it if needed (specially if people are behind proxies or
vpns), and let me know what you think. If someone has any doubt about
it, let me know, or just post on the forum.

[Daniel Estrazulas]

At stock the download rate was between 150 -350kbs. So i increased the connection parameters to maximum and now i'm getting 470- 578 (max usage). The CPU and RAM load are really low, and i have few lags when making http requests, but i dont care about that...I normally do not open other programs or browsers when I'm downloading stuff.

2011/4/20 tribaljet <roll...@hotmail.com>

[tribaljet]

Be careful about both the number of peer connections per transfer, as
well as the number of concurrent outgoing connection attempts.
Usually, relatively small variations of the stock values perform best.
But again, these advices are for DSL lines.

On 20 Abr, 21:48, Daniel Estrazulas <daniel.allrig...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> At stock the download rate was between 150 -350kbs. So i increased the
> connection parameters to maximum and now i'm getting 470- 578 (max usage).
> The CPU and RAM load are really low, and i have few lags when making http
> requests, but i dont care about that...I normally do not open other programs
> or browsers when I'm downloading stuff.
>

> 2011/4/20 tribaljet <roller...@hotmail.com>

[Daniel Estrazulas]

My line is cable. :) I will test again with small variations too, thanks.

2011/4/20 tribaljet <roll...@hotmail.com>