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Ashraff Tim

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Sep 1, 2013, 11:09:26 PM9/1/13
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Dear all,

With so many of our brothers and their families facing financial difficulties and suffering due to various types illness, I think it is high time that we think of a benevolent fund and also restart our Medi-claim and GPA policies, immediately.

I hope we now have sufficient funds and need not to look up to IRDA for approval

Members response please

Tim


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM, s.k. sadhu <sk_sad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear sirs,
  
I Swapan KumarSadhu (F/E/00644) .  In 2011 I fell sick and Dr. found Colon cancer. Accordingly it was treated in Apollo Bangalore by surgery and Chemotherapy and I had to pay more than Rs. 5,00 Lakh.. Some how I managed and got recovery and again I was in my job for two years. 
Now during routine check up for Colon Cancer,  I have been diagonised for another Oral Cancer in Apollo Bangalore. I have already paid more than Rs. 2.50 lakh and treatment is going on. It will go up to Rs.4.00 Lakh.
Now it is very tough to arrange more money. Is there any fund with IIISLA to help the patient like us? 

With regards,

S.K. Sadhu. 

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Kaplesh Krishan Bayala

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Sep 2, 2013, 8:23:23 PM9/2/13
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I fully agree with the proposal of Mr. A K Saini & further adds that immediate steps should be taken by Institute to have more confidence in Institute.


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Arvind Kumar <arvinds...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all, 

Very well said and IISLA council members must take it up on a priority basis because i don't see any one among us trying to obstruct this move but willingness to take it up further is required not only by words but by actions. So Council members must respond to this wake up call of all the members,  AT ONCE...  

Even the general and Private insurers should be approached / asked for their proposals for  GROUP MEDICLAIM POLICIES FOR SURVEYORS (Surveyors which are an integral part of this industry )  at not only competitive rates but should also be subsidized by the IISLA without any delay.

A time limit must be set for accomplishing this task by IISLA which may / should not exceed more than 15 days, if they really want that they themselves and our community must be provided some benefit of this ORGANISATION and it may serve as Solace to all of us to some extent... to start with...

ACTION REQUIRED ON WAR FOOTING.

More responses are welcomed..

regards to all,

A. K. SAINI
New Delhi
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Arvind Kumar

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Sep 2, 2013, 11:05:04 AM9/2/13
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Dear all, 

Very well said and IISLA council members must take it up on a priority basis because i don't see any one among us trying to obstruct this move but willingness to take it up further is required not only by words but by actions. So Council members must respond to this wake up call of all the members,  AT ONCE...  

Even the general and Private insurers should be approached / asked for their proposals for  GROUP MEDICLAIM POLICIES FOR SURVEYORS (Surveyors which are an integral part of this industry )  at not only competitive rates but should also be subsidized by the IISLA without any delay.

A time limit must be set for accomplishing this task by IISLA which may / should not exceed more than 15 days, if they really want that they themselves and our community must be provided some benefit of this ORGANISATION and it may serve as Solace to all of us to some extent... to start with...

ACTION REQUIRED ON WAR FOOTING.

More responses are welcomed..

regards to all,

A. K. SAINI
New Delhi
(M) 98100 15761
  



On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Ashraff Tim <tim56....@gmail.com> wrote:

DILEEP WANGOO

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Sep 3, 2013, 1:18:15 AM9/3/13
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Without Prejudice I may bring to the knowledge of Surveyors that before IIISLA, Govt. of India was formed,  IISA, Mumbai had taken up PA policies in favour of its members, though the AGENT for commission was the PRESIDENT itself and that commission changed the financial position of that family, a few surveyor families got benefit... .  So be ware of any such move..

DILEEP  WANGOO


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SANTOSH DASH

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Sep 4, 2013, 12:16:33 PM9/4/13
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Dear all

We all are writing in the board  when there is a case of any mishap among the surveyors or their family.  On the next day we  forgotten the issues. If all are  shocking with YAMINI  news let us start a awareness  among surveyors  country wide  how  to run  an Independent Benevolent fund for the surveyor& their family  to meet the iil situations.   Neither we should relay  nor  depend upon the IISLA Leaders to make all the things only.  It is all of our duty to act upon it.   Let us think all together. If you are really disheartened in the case of YAMINI then  throw your suggestions how  to create a benevolent fund. I appeal each surveyor brothers in this group board to take active part and  write  some thing at least YES / NO to know their views in this score. once again I request the Well wishers of our fraternity to
give their suggestion and take leading on this proposal.   

With Regards
Santosh Kumar Dash
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Anil Goyal <anil...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Well!first of all we should prove our worth by creating our own fund.

In broad sense we shall separately deposite some money on monthly/quarterly/yearly basis
and in case of any memeber's demise for whatever may be the reason, a part of `whatever may be
fixed' an immediate help should be given to his family within 3 days. and thereafter within
fortnight and finaly within a month. say 5 to 10 lakhs.

rest of the things can be laid down by expereinced members.


On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:41:19 +0530 wrote

>Dear all, 
Very well said and IISLA council members must take it up on a priority basis because i don't
see any one among us trying to obstruct this move but willingness to take it up further is
required not only by words but by actions. So Council members must respond to this wake up
call of all the members,  AT ONCE...  

Even the general and Private insurers should be approached / asked for their proposals for
 GROUP MEDICLAIM POLICIES FOR SURVEYORS (Surveyors which are an integral part of this industry
)  at not only competitive rates but should also be subsidized by the IISLA without any delay.

A time limit must be set for accomplishing this task by IISLA which may / should not exceed
more than 15 days, if they really want that they themselves and our community must be provided
some benefit of this ORGANISATION and it may serve as Solace to all of us to some extent... to
start with...

ACTION REQUIRED ON WAR FOOTING.
More responses are welcomed..
regards to all,
A. K. SAININew Delhi
Mobile No. 0981001576134 Saini Enclave, Vikas Marg extn., 

Near Karkardooma Metro station, Delhi-110092




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Ashraff Tim

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Sep 4, 2013, 8:43:19 PM9/4/13
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Dear Mr. Snathosh Dash,

If at all the majority opinion is in favor of starting a benevolent fund on all India basis, the question here is that, who will manage such a fund, when already there is lot of mistrust and difference of opinions among us.

The best option is to start one by IIISLA itself, under a separate committee formed for the purpose, and I wonder as to why the IIISLA council is silent on the subject, though they have sufficient fund with them, even to go for GPA Policy also

Tim

Chand Bhatia

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Sep 5, 2013, 1:23:59 AM9/5/13
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Dear Mr Santosh Das and all those friends who have views on the proposals. 

It is very unfortunate the man is in habit of digging the well when he is thirsty. How will you feel if the army start buying  the arm when the was is declared. Ask any defense personnel, he will tell you the Army works every day as if they are at war. As and when this idea has come up for discussions, we find the mails expressing one or the other problem. Some one says that start saving of your own, some one suggest who will manage it etc etc. This is not the way the battles are one. We have t first set the target and the target is that surveyors are in an unorganized profession and need a security support in event of a an unfortunate incidence with surveyor or his family. So the first target is that we must have some fund which should come to support the surveyor and his family. Once this is resolved then comes that who shall form and who shall regulate the fund. Then probably shall be the execution, as to what shall be the terms and condition of help to the needy member. 

Mr Ashraf pointed out that IIISLA has lot of fund. Mr Ashraf shall be surprised that even bigger resource is available in the IISa, which is also another body of surveyors only. IISA has scattered immovable assets running in crores and even liquid cash running in lacs. Why the same should not be utilised to for good of fraternity. Why few ones who are controlling these assets are silently sitting on these assets. 

I think the issue is serious and should be cooll thought on. I propose that Mr Sunil Vora, who is president IIISLA and IISA also and above that a responsible person, should frame a committee to work on the issue and the proposals should be brought up for discussion and adoption,so that target of surveyors security in the time of distress is addressed. With a copy of this mail to all the groups and Mr Vora, Mr Jagdish Parmar, who are office bearers of IISA to consider the surveyor's problem and possible solution. 

C K BHATIA


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Shailesh Shah

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Sep 5, 2013, 1:41:24 AM9/5/13
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Well said Bhatiaji.

amar kant jha

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Sep 5, 2013, 2:28:37 AM9/5/13
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Dear sir,
I want to know the present IISA office bearer's mail IDs,  I want to know- What benefit they are getting in destroying all the assets (except few- Which are being used by Ex IISa officials).
I want to inform you that BENEVOLENT fund was established  in IISA, fund was transferred  by IISA, procedure was started by Mr. ALIND, Let he come forward with all details.
If our friend re really serious in the  process, they will have to come forward, Without thinking iof IIISLA
If IIISLA wants , they can ask  IRDA to ask underwriters to have Rs.1/- stamp on each POLICY DOCUMENTS- for SURVEYOR WELFARE FUND.
Each Survey fees- Rs.10/- to be deducted from the fees and deposited in FUND,  If it starts- Very soon there will be a strong FUND  for SURVEYOR Community's Help.
Amar Kant Jha
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PATNA
5.09.13


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SANTOSH DASH

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Sep 5, 2013, 3:05:19 AM9/5/13
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 Dear brother  Mr J.P Singh,

Please go through the suggestion of  Bhatia Sir regarding formation of   a country wide benevolent fund  and utilization of  IISA funds.
As you have taken leadership in both the Institutes honestly  since last 18 years  you can guide better  how to  utilize the IISA fund in  proposed  benevolent fund tie-up with IIISLA.  Please put your suggestions how we will make it convenient. I am confident you will do
some thing best for the benefit of surveyors. 


With Regards

Santosh Kumar Dash



 Kindly put your suggestion how we will utilize the IISA fund & how we will make
 


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Saroj Panda

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Sep 5, 2013, 10:01:41 AM9/5/13
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Dear Santosh

Charity starts from home.

Why don't you start the movement from Cuttack. We all are with you. Just lead the team & tell us what to do.

I also request Mr. JP Singh to allot the responsibility to Santosh so as to coordinate the Benevolent fund team.

Really its a very good suggestion & very often we are discussing only, but this time let us try to implement from today .

All the Best.



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Ajay Kumar

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Sep 5, 2013, 2:53:16 AM9/5/13
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Dear All members,

By writing on board nothing will happen and raise fund make investment and also custodian should be selected for fund management and representative should be selected for all zone for recommendation for payment to needy members. I fully agree for raising fund.

With regards,
Ajay Kumar, Retd. Sgt IAF
Surveyor, Patna.


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