NAMES NOT REFLECTING ON LIST OF CATAGORISED SURVEYOR

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sanjay dwivedi

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Aug 6, 2009, 2:40:40 AM8/6/09
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Brothers,

Many of surveyor brothers having valid Surveyor licence, but ther name
is not reflecting on IRDA web site, I am also one of then.

regarding that, a number letters wrot to IRDA & as well, communicated
with the authorities. No out come found.

Requested to help out.

Regards

Sanjay Dwivedi
SLA -36742 Exp on 29-04-2012

shailesh shah from vadodara

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Aug 9, 2009, 3:21:36 AM8/9/09
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dear brother,
u can see no one is interested to reply to your query except this
little boy- who is not a member of iiisla. the fact is very soon the
whole list of surveyors will be down from the irda website as they are
in hurry to clear the space from bugs. They find surveyors as bugs in
their roadmap. so don't be worried and book a nice crematorium for
yourself in the vicinity- and paint a nice board ONCE UPON A TIME I
WAS AN INDEPENDENT SURVEYOR FROM ------to -----year. and add your wish
below that.

On Aug 6, 11:40 am, sanjay dwivedi <dwivedi_sanja...@yahoo.co.in>
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DILIP

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Aug 9, 2009, 9:58:24 AM8/9/09
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What is the use of giving such foolish answer. Instead of
giving such type of answer its better not to give answer.
Actually this is not a proper answer; this is a answer
like politician.
Actually our friend has put up his problem and asked for
help. Instead of helping our friend Mr. Shailesh Shah has
written which is not related. Some insurer's check the names
and category on IRDA's website and if the name is not in the
list they do not give work to the surveyor.

While answering he has mentioned that - no one is interested to
reply to your query except this little boy- who is not a member of
iiisla. While giving an answer where does the question of
membership of IIISLA comes ?

Who is this Shailesh Shah? Is he a IRDA's spoke person? From
where did he got this information? If he is interested in
solving the surveyor's problem then why he did not opposed
this move of IRDA ??

Some people are behaving as if they know all and give ONLY the
advises ( even not asked for). Request the moderator not to
post the messages which are useless and keep the message
boxes of the members free.

shailesh shah from vadodara

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Aug 10, 2009, 12:20:01 AM8/10/09
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Can the poster please reveal the identity, there is some malafide
interest observed in his post.

Sanjay Surveyor

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Aug 10, 2009, 3:00:19 AM8/10/09
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Brothers,
First of all, I must thanks to u all, that u have spared your
precious time , to look into the independent matter,

I am sincerely reading all the discussions/ issues & all the
differences as arising due to discussions.

Approach/ attitude , towards the subject differs from person to person
but aim & result is one. In the broader spectrum Therefore there is no
insider or outsider. Because when a problem occurs with any of the
INDEPENDENT surveyor, People left him over in between hanging.
I am asking all the self said authorities, just to account/ figure any
work done in positive manner towards the betterment of for our
INDEPENDEN SURVEYOR BROTHERS OR SOLVING THERE ISSUES.
THERE CLEANE ANSWER IT IS AN INSTITUTE AN STUDY FORUM , NOT AN
UNION. THEN –
• WHY THE ELECTIONS REQUIRED?

Think with the true heart & we should self analyze our self, weather
we are trust worthy- Truthful to our self OR A subject is only
needed for time pass.
Then why not we should welcome cleane views with the cleare heart.
Regards
Success to u all the brothers.
SANJAY DWIVEDI
09837109331


On Aug 9, 6:58 pm, DILIP <dfbna...@gmail.com> wrote:

amar kant jha

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Aug 10, 2009, 11:57:59 PM8/10/09
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Dear Sanjay,
You have asked solution of your problem, Solution is with IRDA only.
It is better contact directly with IRDA on Phone and through letter,
It will be corrected, It is my believe.
I am sorry to say ( as far as I know) IIISLA will not help you out, To
whom you will write in IIISLA. Even though I will request you to Write
to Mr. President/ Secretery, Hope they will come out +ve for you.
Amar Kant Jha
0933-47-84485
PATNA
10.08.09

On Aug 10, 12:00 pm, Sanjay Surveyor <dwivedi_sanja...@yahoo.co.in>
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shailesh shah from vadodara

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Aug 11, 2009, 2:56:33 AM8/11/09
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DEAR AMAR,
you are very much aware of what is the response of irda so far. This
gentleman has tried everything and now he is asking for opinion. I
spoke to him and has made it clear that there is no response from
IRDA. And now you say that IIISLA also can not do anything, then what
are the members left out with???

Let us not use goody goody language, the house of indpendents is on
fire - and WHO ELSE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN YOU. Let us educate the
colleague, with exact situation and not ornamental philosophies.

Dulal Chandra Das

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Aug 11, 2009, 10:04:21 AM8/11/09
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Dear all,

It is to admit that I am not a regular reader, neither I go thro all
topics. The heading of this discussion is very very surprising. One of
our colleagues has raised the issue I have unheard earlier.

Shaileshji , on all probability, might have noticed that IRDA, IIISLA
will not do anything from his earlier experiences and hence vented his
frustration (If I am not wrong). In stead of the path to solve the
issue we are just wasting our time (with all the due respects to the
participants).

I request Mr. Dwivedi to seek information under RTI Act, 2005. As
"Why"s are not allowed to be replied in general, he may use the term
"seeking opinion" for not publishing the name in the web of IRDA from
inception with reference to his earlier information.

This will DEFINITELY force the IRDA to publish the name. Is there any
need to approach IIISLA who are seeking money (annual fee?) without
notice and threatening to delete the name ? Who feels that Fellwship
is provided to SLAs after 15 years of categorization?

Do not get panicked Mr. Dwivedi; I have applied so many RTI Acts (to
IRDA)and IRDA, in one reply stated that - 15 members' Surveyors adhoc
committee to form IIISLA was formed on the basis of, inter alia,
proper represenataion from India and for that matter 7 out of 15
seleceted members were from Mumbai! So, do not worry, apply RTI Act,
2005; come to know the reasons why for 8 years there absence of your
name in the web. Just visit the web of IRDA.

Regards,

D C DAS
098640-11966

On Aug 11, 11:56 am, shailesh shah from vadodara
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Sanjay Shaw

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Aug 11, 2009, 10:15:37 AM8/11/09
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FOR GOD SAKE, PENETRATION OF INTRUDER FROM BACK DOOR WITH REPLACEMENT
OF THE EXISTING QUALIFIED PERSONALITIES OF THE SURVEYOR FAMILY WHICH IS
AL READY APPROVED A PRE-PLANED CONSPIRACY.
LET THE GOD FORGIVE THEM BUT HOW LONG WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP SILENCE.

shailesh shah

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Aug 11, 2009, 10:24:13 AM8/11/09
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dear dulalda,
First of all thanks for your timely entry in the subject. now you need
to also educate sanjay dwivedi as to how to file an RTI application.
Not everybody is an expert in this and we need to guide them. i am
convinced beyond that IRDA is not interested in solving surveyors
problems and i don't think for every petty things we have to use RTI
Act. it looses its real potency then. These are routine matters for
which we need to use normally recongnizable and adaptable tools like
post and email.

For example even my address change is not effected till date. The
request is pending for more than 5 years now. They have themselves
renewed the license recently at the new address. Why can't they change
the address in website then?

This IRDA according to me is a fraud company of the country and some
awakened public of india has to come forward to show them their way.
--
Shailesh B. Shah
Surveyor/ Loss Assessor
Cell: +91 9824021192
vadodara-gujarat-india

Sanjay Shaw

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Aug 11, 2009, 10:34:06 AM8/11/09
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Please check the IT tender notice of the IRDA
They are trying to make some data driven web control to provide automated upto date information on web & Tarrif regulation and norm of rating format.
it is not our fault/ it is not your fault/ and it is not at all any other fault. / as it is India.
Then every citizen of India Carries numbers of The God & Godes on their shoulder
and inspite of the lack of all we Indian are surviving.

Sanjay Surveyor

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Aug 11, 2009, 10:50:47 AM8/11/09
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Dulal Da Namaskar,

Thanks for the vision u are enlighting with us, As a surveyor in
satallite town i have sound & prominent existance, getting proper
renewal with the sound & bold track with the insurers.

Plz guide me further with the proper draftings, & right person to be
contected.

regards
sanjay Dwivedi
09837109331

On Aug 11, 7:24 pm, shailesh shah <shaileshbs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear dulalda,
> First of all thanks for your timely entry in the subject. now you need
> to also educate sanjay dwivedi as to how to file an RTI application.
> Not everybody is an expert in this and we need to guide them. i am
> convinced beyond that IRDA is not interested in solving surveyors
> problems and i don't think for every petty things we have to use RTI
> Act. it looses its real potency then. These are routine matters for
> which we need to use normally recongnizable and adaptable tools like
> post and email.
>
> For example even my address change is not effected till date. The
> request is pending for more than 5 years now. They have themselves
> renewed the license recently at the new address. Why can't they change
> the address in website then?
>
> This IRDA according to me is a fraud company of the country and some
> awakened public of india has to come forward to show them their way.
>
> On 8/11/09, Sanjay Shaw <skshaw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > FOR GOD SAKE, PENETRATION OF INTRUDER FROM BACK DOOR WITH REPLACEMENT
> > OF THE EXISTING QUALIFIED PERSONALITIES OF THE SURVEYOR FAMILY WHICH IS
> > AL READY APPROVED A PRE-PLANED CONSPIRACY.
> > LET THE GOD FORGIVE THEM BUT HOW LONG WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP SILENCE.
>
> vadodara-gujarat-india- Hide quoted text -

amar kant jha

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Aug 11, 2009, 12:07:56 PM8/11/09
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Dear Friends,
We are shy enough to accept the facts, May I know who is fool amomg
us? I think -- NO One, If one is serious and want to know his position
of Categorisation, HE CAN KNOW, HE WILL KNOW. There are so many legal
ways.
Better ask him to try again in proper legal manner.
Amar Kant Jha
0933-47-84485
PATNA
10.08.09

On Aug 11, 7:50 pm, Sanjay Surveyor <dwivedi_sanja...@yahoo.co.in>

Sanjay Shaw

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Aug 12, 2009, 12:03:33 AM8/12/09
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You are capable of taking very disparate facts and ideas and weaving them into a coherent and understandable presentation . You clarify points and ideas by using analogies and visual representations, although sometimes you may become too descriptive and wordy and risk losing your audience. Your writing is expressive and likely to have many personal overtones, which can make for great fiction or marketing material. You dislike details, however, and may find it difficult to write something technical that relies on facts and discourages inclusion of pedagogical elements or unexpected flourish
it is the matter of devotion that how much we are serious to keep our rescue of professionalism and it's survival because it is your only devotional element which help you to be hard with out botheration of excessive stress of out bound forces in side of your brain. we know i this race of consumer world , we are not at all permitted due to the factor of financial break even / work time graphs / & social acceptance . But try to think , why the effect of swine flue is dominating day by day and we are forced to keep away from our own rights to be with natural world that is only happening due to the lack of devotion on woe work and result of such suspended confidences on our work. For the sake of to buy the confidence and successful result , we are prone to adopt some artificial means of work and ignoring our own natural resources i.e. motor break in inspection / our inbuilt technology / our heritage / our tradition as we are fay away from the world of micro-organism and effect of swine flue is dominating day by day .
You enjoy being and working in a somewhat chaotic setting — an unpredictable environment where there is room for you to roam and get ideas from others. You dislike limits, time cards and other restrictions inhibit your open−ended approach. Anything restrictive, repressive, or seemingly oppressive to you will not allow your true self to unfold and be valued. This is not to say that you are not productive. As a matter of fact, your sense of devotion and loyalty will cause you to work very late and work at home. You strive to be appreciated, however, for your creative ideas and your abilities. You relish and openly respond to positive reinforcement. If that's not forthcoming, for whatever reason, you are quite likely to find another environment in which to work. You prefer harmony and try to keep everybody getting along. You dislike engaging in or witnessing verbal fighting. You'll argue (you enjoy dialogue) but you avoid frank disputes or verbal sparring. You want to be involved in what's happening around you and very quickly "count yourself in." Your feelings can be hurt
 This is your world that you can roam / roar i.e.
 

Sanjay Surveyor

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Aug 13, 2009, 8:44:55 AM8/13/09
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To all the brothers

Faith has to do with things that are not seen and hope with things
that are not at hand.

Regards
sanay dwivedi

On Aug 12, 9:03 am, Sanjay Shaw <skshaw2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  You are capable of taking very disparate facts and ideas and weaving them
> into a coherent and understandable presentation . You clarify points and
> ideas by using analogies and visual representations, although sometimes you
> may become too descriptive and wordy and risk losing your audience. Your
> writing is expressive and likely to have many personal overtones, which can
> make for great fiction or marketing material. You dislike details, however,
> and may find it difficult to write something technical that relies on facts
> and discourages inclusion of pedagogical elements or unexpected flourish
> it is the matter of devotion that how much we are serious to keep our rescue
> of professionalism and it's survival because it is your only devotional
> element which help you to be hard with out botheration of excessive stress
> of out bound forces in side of your brain. we know i this race of consumer
> world , we are not at all permitted due to the factor of financial break
> even / work time graphs / & social acceptance . But try to think , why the
> effect of swine flue is dominating day by day and we are forced to keep away
> from our own rights to be with natural world that is only happening due to
> the lack of devotion on woe work and result of such suspended confidences on
> our work. For the sake of to buy the confidence and successful result , we
> are prone to adopt some artificial means of work and ignoring our own
> natural resources i.e. motor break in inspection / our inbuilt technology /
> our heritage / our tradition as we are fay away from the world of
> micro-organism and effect of swine flue is dominating day by day .
> You enjoy being and working in a somewhat chaotic setting -- an unpredictable
> environment where there is room for you to roam and get ideas from others.
> You dislike limits, time cards and other restrictions inhibit your
> open-ended approach. Anything restrictive, repressive, or seemingly
> oppressive to you will not allow your true self to unfold and be valued.
> This is not to say that you are not productive. As a matter of fact, your
> sense of devotion and loyalty will cause you to work very late and work at
> home. You strive to be appreciated, however, for your creative ideas and
> your abilities. You relish and openly respond to positive reinforcement. If
> that's not forthcoming, for whatever reason, you are quite likely to find
> another environment in which to work. You prefer harmony and try to keep
> everybody getting along. You dislike engaging in or witnessing verbal
> fighting. You'll argue (you enjoy dialogue) but you avoid frank disputes or
> verbal sparring. You want to be involved in what's happening around you and
> very quickly "count yourself in." Your feelings can be hurt
>  This is your world that you can roam / roar i.e.www.mbiis.valuedata.org
>
> > > > >> > > > UNION.  THEN -
> > > > >> > > > *     WHY THE ELECTIONS REQUIRED?
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> > > > >> > > > Think  with the true heart & we should self analyze our self,
> > > > >> > > > weather
> > > > >> > > > we are trust worthy- Truthful to our self   OR  A subject is
> > only
> > > > >> > > > needed for time pass.
> > > > >> > > > Then
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