Fwd: [IAO] ICE and its concretizations

[Bjoern Peters]

Feedback from Barry below:

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From: "Barry Smith" <phis...@buffalo.edu>
To: "Bjoern Peters" <bpe...@liai.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:09:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Fwd: [IAO] ICE and its concretizations

At 03:03 PM 12/8/2009, Bjoern Peters wrote:
>Barry: Can you weigh in on the below? That was specifically
>requested in the call by several during the call, and would be very helpful.

Bjoern.
I think what you say below is exactly right.
Good to add some axioms to the effect, e.g., that every plan involves
a plan specification. This may enable you to simply the definition.
BS



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>From: "Bjoern Peters" <bpe...@liai.org>
>To: "information-ontology" <informatio...@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:06:08 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>Subject: [IAO] ICE and its concretizations
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>Based on some of the email conversations in the past days, and
>confirmed in todays call, we thought it is necessary to define
>properly some of the early workshop decisions for IAO which not
>everybody is aware of, and there seem to be some disagreements about.
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>It was my understanding that:
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>1) Every information content entity (ICE) is_concretized_as some
>(physical) quality. The ICE could be a weight measurement datum. The
>concretization is the ink pattern written down in a lab notebook,
>the magnetic pattern in a hard disk, and the 'neural pattern' in
>someones brain.
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>2) Each of these qualities 'inheres in' an independent continuant
>(the paper, magnetic storage, brain)
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>3) There is no 'inheres in' relation between an ICE and an
>independent continuant other than to the bearers of the concretized
>ICE qualities
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>I noted (as did MC during the call) that we have been treating
>'plan' different from the above. We say that a plan is a
>concretization of a plan specification, and that a plan is a
>'realizable entity, not a quality.
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>I think it is straightforward to make dealing with plans consistent
>with the above, and that it is desirable. For every plan that is
>realized, the bearer must be capable of storing information about
>that plan. It is possible to bear concretizations of plan
>specifications without the intend or capacity to realize them, like
>the piece of paper on which a plan specification is written.
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>Therefore i would propose to modify the definition of plan to be:
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>plan=def a realizable entity that inheres_in a bearer that
>has_quality a concretization of a plan specification which the
>bearer is committed to realize as a planned process.
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Bjoern Peters
Assistant Member
La Jolla Institute for Allergy and Immunology
9420 Athena Circle
La Jolla, CA 92037, USA
Tel: 858/752-6914
Fax: 858/752-6987
http://www.liai.org/pages/faculty-peters