Malvaceae for ID : Atlanta Botanical Garden : Atlanta, Georgia : 26NOV18 : AK-19

[Aarti S. Khale]

Plant seen at the garden. Height was approx 8-10 feet.

Seems to be Abelmoschus Species.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Aarti ji, for the beautiful images 

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

This has been identified as Okra on their Planthotline.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Aarti ji 

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

The calyx looks different to me than Okra.

Looks closer to Abelmoschus manihot.

Please advice.

Aarti

[carmelita]

Please, there are about 96 different types of Okra; which one? Can we see more images, please? Thank you.

[Aarti S. Khale]

  Carmelita Ji,

  Okra was suggested on their Planthotline.

  I can add more pictures. 

  Let me know which parts you would like to see.

  Regards,

  Aarti 

[Aarti S. Khale]

Carmelita Ji,

Let me try posting few more images.

Regards,

Aarti

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 7:55 PM Carmelita <carmel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you. There can never be too many images. One often needs to see the back of the leaf, back of the bloom, leaf arrangement, variations in leaf shape from bottom of plant to top of plant, etc. Thank you again.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Here are some more images.

Hope they help.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check with images at Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus (Roxb. ex Hornem.) Borss.Waalk.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Garg Ji.

Hope Carmelita Ji has a look at my added images too.

Regards,

Aarti

[carmelita]

I'm sorry for the delay. I really do not know the correct ID. The leaves are always too variable. You can try looking Abelmoschus caillei, or A. manihot subsp. tetraphyllus as has already been suggested. There is one known as Sunset Hibiscus, the seeds of which came from Thomas Jefferson's Monticello and were most likely brought to America from Aftrica. 

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:36:51 AM UTC-5, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[carmelita]

I forgot to add: my plant friend Nan Ondra wrote about A. manihot. There are two photos which show how variable the leaves are.
https://hayefield.com/2008/12/28/three-neat-plants-2/

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:36:51 AM UTC-5, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Carmelita Ji.

Also for the link provided.

Hope some experts look into it.

Regards,

Aarti

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Carmelita Ji, Garg Ji,

This has been identified as Clemson's Spineless Okra, a Heirloom variety by the ABG.

Looks convincing to me.

Your expert views please.

Regards,

Aarti

[Ushadi Micromini]

this is our regular bhindi

in usa we call it heirloom

because it s the same / or little changed since brought over from africa and or asia

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,

Thanks for the id.

Sorry to have missed replying earlier.

Regards,

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

To me foliage looks different as per

https://bloominthyme.com/how-to-grow-okra/

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/plant-clemson-spineless-okra-98571.html

https://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheet/okra/

https://all-americaselections.org/product/okra-clemson-spineless/

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus (USA) ?

Group discussion at

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Abelmoschus manihot subsp. tetraphyllus (USA) ?

Group discussion at

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from ABG in Atlanta.

Regards,

Aarti

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Could be https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60463345-2 

if cultivated.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Saroj Ji.  

Yes, it was cultivated. 

Regards, 

Aarti