SK1974 05 June 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Chandragiri, Kathmandu, Nepal

Altitude: 2410 m.

Date: 27 May 2019

Habit : Wild

Which Rubus sp.?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

May be Rubus biflorus Buch.-Ham. ex Sm. as per comparative images at Rubus‎

Pl. check.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess it is other than R. biflorus.

Enclosing R. biflorus flower.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

What is the difference you observe ?

That is the closest I can go.

[Saroj Kasaju]

I feel most of the aspects like leaf, flower, stem, stipule differ.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check details and references at Rubus rosifolius

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Does not match Mr. Garg. Leaves are 5-7 foliate and in this case only 3 foliate.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Generally 5-7 foliate. 3 foliate also.

[Saroj Kasaju]

I mean this plant is only 3 foliate and I did not find any characteristics matching.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

In that case, pl. check for species in Species with distribution in annotated checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal, which have such leaves and has not appeared in efi site so far at Rubus 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Actually I had checked all listed in ACFPN but could not get match 

and some sp. did not have any description for matching.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Check with gbif. It many times have specimens, when no photos are available on net. 

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[J.M. Garg]

I find out that Rosaceae is updated in Online Flora of Nepal. So checked the keys and reached at Rubus alexeterius.

On checking detailed description and distribution, I got by and large convinced. As per it, it is Rubus alexeterius var. acaenocalyx.

I check on net for images and illustration and details & found one at Flora of China and FOC illustration.

I also found one image in Bhutan Biodiversity Portal, which can be seen as 2nd thumbnail on Google search as it is not getting loaded on the main page.

However, to be sure, I checked GBIF specimens as per

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FWAG.1274201%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441336625269Dw31UoSvO8Qwxw7n
https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F339670.jpg

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438184463

So, it is Rubus alexeterius var. acaenocalyx

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg! 

But I did not find its listing in Nepal !

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I think you did not read my detailed reply.

Check again at detailed description and distribution

[Saroj Kasaju]

I just missed this part. I checked only list !

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=2796 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju