Aponogeton satarensis
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Satish Phadke
22 Sept 2010, 1:53:13 am22/09/10
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A lone specimen of Aponogeton satarensis was observed on Kas plateau 19 Sep 2010 which was flowering.
As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly finished.
We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat ji who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
Regards
Dr Phadke
As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly finished.
We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat ji who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
Regards
Dr Phadke
shrikant ingalhalikar
22 Sept 2010, 4:27:10 am22/09/10
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This plant flowers on the advent of monsoon. This year it flowered in
June. It is abundent at Kas, no need to worry. Regards, Shrikant
On Sep 22, 10:53 am, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lone specimen of* Aponogeton satarensis* was observed on Kas plateau 19
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June. It is abundent at Kas, no need to worry. Regards, Shrikant
On Sep 22, 10:53 am, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A lone specimen of* Aponogeton satarensis* was observed on Kas plateau 19
> Sep 2010 which was flowering.
> As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly
> finished.
> We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat ji
> who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
> Regards
> Dr Phadke
>
> _MG_0284s.jpg
> As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly
> finished.
> We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat ji
> who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
> Regards
> Dr Phadke
>
> 134KViewDownload
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> _MG_0281s.jpg
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addi-the-birde
22 Sept 2010, 12:22:03 pm22/09/10
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Visited Kaas in July and Aug'10..... and this species was indeed
abundant :-)
Regards,
Adesh Shivkar
On Sep 22, 1:27 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com>
wrote:
abundant :-)
Regards,
Adesh Shivkar
On Sep 22, 1:27 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com>
wrote:
Satish Phadke
22 Sept 2010, 12:59:59 pm22/09/10
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Yes
Thanks everybody for sharing their knowledge. We are here to document the facts and share with others and this way and by whatever other means try to conserve these species or help or support them who are already doing it.
I can safely concur that most of the flowering of the species occurs before Sep. and there are quite a number of specimens on the plateau and as rightly told by Aparna ji one should not be greedy of its photographs.
Dr Phadke
Thanks everybody for sharing their knowledge. We are here to document the facts and share with others and this way and by whatever other means try to conserve these species or help or support them who are already doing it.
I can safely concur that most of the flowering of the species occurs before Sep. and there are quite a number of specimens on the plateau and as rightly told by Aparna ji one should not be greedy of its photographs.
Dr Phadke
Aparna Watve
22 Sept 2010, 10:42:54 pm22/09/10
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Dear All,
I am really happy to be part of this ever progressing group and glad I can interact with so many on sensitive issues.
As a group we have progressed from the phase of exploring and watching to scientific observation, analysis and documentation (using taxonomy, -one of the most demanding subjects).
Now we are progressing towards the conservation science, where we interpret our observations over wide temporal and spatial scale to understand species status and ecology in the wild. Our observations with/without photographs are important "primary observational data". This will certainly be of great help to the conservation planners. Till now population level data about many rare species was almost non-existent, so our observational data is a step towards it.
Hence, let us keep documenting and sharing as we do right now, keeping in mind that the ultimate goal is conservation of flora and fauna in their natural habitat.
Regards,
Aparna--
Dr. Aparna Watve
Dr. Aparna Watve
Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
Seoni.480661
tel: 07692-228115
mobile: (0)9755667710 and 9822597288 still works
I am really happy to be part of this ever progressing group and glad I can interact with so many on sensitive issues.
As a group we have progressed from the phase of exploring and watching to scientific observation, analysis and documentation (using taxonomy, -one of the most demanding subjects).
Now we are progressing towards the conservation science, where we interpret our observations over wide temporal and spatial scale to understand species status and ecology in the wild. Our observations with/without photographs are important "primary observational data". This will certainly be of great help to the conservation planners. Till now population level data about many rare species was almost non-existent, so our observational data is a step towards it.
Hence, let us keep documenting and sharing as we do right now, keeping in mind that the ultimate goal is conservation of flora and fauna in their natural habitat.
Regards,
Aparna
Dr. Aparna Watve
Dr. Aparna Watve
Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
Seoni.480661
tel: 07692-228115
mobile: (0)9755667710 and 9822597288 still works
shrikant ingalhalikar
23 Sept 2010, 9:43:06 am23/09/10
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Dear All,
First of all pls trust that I am with the sentiments of members over
conservation of Kas heritage. I have been watching this location for
the past 35 years for its flora. I wish to assure everyone that Kas
flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35
years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other local
interventions over infinite years. Most of the plants here have
rhizomes, tubers or bulbs that remain safe under the ground to sprout
in the next monsoon. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and
plucking by a few over enthusiasts makes a little or no difference to
their re-appearance. Plants said to have some use are plucked the
most.
The only plant that may be facing a threat is Iphigenia stellata. In
July when other plants are not in bloom and Kas is deserted, several
people arrive at Kas early morniing and dig out plants with tubers. A
plant per 1 sq m is dug out and taken away for medicinal use. Its
fortunate (?) that the plant still sprouts each year to be collected
next year. I am hence srictly against spelling out any uses for any
plant; and on top of it people think wild plants have more potency
than the cultivated ones. Why can't they grow such plants in their
fields?
The other concerning part is the thronging of enthusiasts in great
numbers on a particular day. The facilities certainly can not cope up
to accomodate 5000 vehicles and 20,000 visitors. (As reported on 19 th
Sept) Every visitor thinks that others should not have come. Best way
to enjoy Kas in such a situations is to avoid peak hours and to avoid
peak crowding days. If local businessmen see a huge crowd thronging,
they are bound to cash on the needs of visitors. Unfortunetely the
crowd is creating the market for resorts, eating houses and stalls. As
such the influx of visitors (and even this concern) fades away with
the bloom of flowers and in other months no one cares to stop at Kas
plateau. I have stopped going to Kas for the last few years. There are
many plateaus around but they are not accessible by car.
Putting up a board to show the exact location is not necessary; people
who know the plants don't miss it but why attract even the ignorant
ones? Every time conservation issue is raised, the forest dept (or I
do not know who) takes up tree plantation at any site. Kas is no
exception to this disaster. Several Silver Oaks can be seen planted on
the plateau proudly by some one. Putting up a fence to prevent
movement of people and cattle also can be harmful. The famous valley
of flowers is grossly invaded by Polygonum and Impatiens due to such
restrictions.
Littering is a problem with visitors but thats a national problem. We
can only reduce it with volutary help. Many local groups await help
from visitors on this issue. A meet of Kas lovers in an off season
month to pick garbage will be very useful. Action beyond just
complaining is welcome.
Developement in terms of mining and wind mills would be disastrous but
I am sure Kas will be spared from such invasion. Every location suited
for a non polluting non conventional energy resource is bound to be on
a plateau and is bound to have some flora and fauna. A balanced
approach rather than a total ban would resolve this issue. As such the
wind mill site gets under tight security after the installation. It
would be worthwhile to find out how the the flora and fauna has
changed there after a few years of isolation.
No one can resist going to Kas and posting the spectacle on Orkut,
Facebook or Google groups. I feel that we ourselves should ensure that
we do not burden Kas. If a tea stall comes up we should refrain from
holding a steaming cup in the rolling mist of Kas. The plateau expects
least interventions from outsiders like us, it will sustain and please
us as it has done over the years.
Thank you and with regards, Shrikant
On Sep 23, 7:42 am, Aparna Watve <aparnawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am really happy to be part of this ever progressing group and glad I can
> interact with so many on sensitive issues.
> As a group we have progressed from the phase of exploring and watching to
> scientific observation, analysis and documentation (using taxonomy, -one of
> the most demanding subjects).
> Now we are progressing towards the conservation science, where we interpret
> our observations over wide temporal and spatial scale to understand species
> status and ecology in the wild. Our observations with/without photographs
> are important "primary observational data". This will certainly be of great
> help to the conservation planners. Till now population level data about many
> rare species was almost non-existent, so our observational data is a step
> towards it.
> Hence, let us keep documenting and sharing as we do right now, keeping in
> mind that the ultimate goal is conservation of flora and fauna in their
> natural habitat.
> Regards,
> Aparna
>
>
> >> A lone specimen of* Aponogeton satarensis* was observed on Kas plateau 19
>
> - Show quoted text -
First of all pls trust that I am with the sentiments of members over
conservation of Kas heritage. I have been watching this location for
the past 35 years for its flora. I wish to assure everyone that Kas
flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35
years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other local
interventions over infinite years. Most of the plants here have
rhizomes, tubers or bulbs that remain safe under the ground to sprout
in the next monsoon. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and
plucking by a few over enthusiasts makes a little or no difference to
their re-appearance. Plants said to have some use are plucked the
most.
The only plant that may be facing a threat is Iphigenia stellata. In
July when other plants are not in bloom and Kas is deserted, several
people arrive at Kas early morniing and dig out plants with tubers. A
plant per 1 sq m is dug out and taken away for medicinal use. Its
fortunate (?) that the plant still sprouts each year to be collected
next year. I am hence srictly against spelling out any uses for any
plant; and on top of it people think wild plants have more potency
than the cultivated ones. Why can't they grow such plants in their
fields?
The other concerning part is the thronging of enthusiasts in great
numbers on a particular day. The facilities certainly can not cope up
to accomodate 5000 vehicles and 20,000 visitors. (As reported on 19 th
Sept) Every visitor thinks that others should not have come. Best way
to enjoy Kas in such a situations is to avoid peak hours and to avoid
peak crowding days. If local businessmen see a huge crowd thronging,
they are bound to cash on the needs of visitors. Unfortunetely the
crowd is creating the market for resorts, eating houses and stalls. As
such the influx of visitors (and even this concern) fades away with
the bloom of flowers and in other months no one cares to stop at Kas
plateau. I have stopped going to Kas for the last few years. There are
many plateaus around but they are not accessible by car.
Putting up a board to show the exact location is not necessary; people
who know the plants don't miss it but why attract even the ignorant
ones? Every time conservation issue is raised, the forest dept (or I
do not know who) takes up tree plantation at any site. Kas is no
exception to this disaster. Several Silver Oaks can be seen planted on
the plateau proudly by some one. Putting up a fence to prevent
movement of people and cattle also can be harmful. The famous valley
of flowers is grossly invaded by Polygonum and Impatiens due to such
restrictions.
Littering is a problem with visitors but thats a national problem. We
can only reduce it with volutary help. Many local groups await help
from visitors on this issue. A meet of Kas lovers in an off season
month to pick garbage will be very useful. Action beyond just
complaining is welcome.
Developement in terms of mining and wind mills would be disastrous but
I am sure Kas will be spared from such invasion. Every location suited
for a non polluting non conventional energy resource is bound to be on
a plateau and is bound to have some flora and fauna. A balanced
approach rather than a total ban would resolve this issue. As such the
wind mill site gets under tight security after the installation. It
would be worthwhile to find out how the the flora and fauna has
changed there after a few years of isolation.
No one can resist going to Kas and posting the spectacle on Orkut,
Facebook or Google groups. I feel that we ourselves should ensure that
we do not burden Kas. If a tea stall comes up we should refrain from
holding a steaming cup in the rolling mist of Kas. The plateau expects
least interventions from outsiders like us, it will sustain and please
us as it has done over the years.
Thank you and with regards, Shrikant
On Sep 23, 7:42 am, Aparna Watve <aparnawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am really happy to be part of this ever progressing group and glad I can
> interact with so many on sensitive issues.
> As a group we have progressed from the phase of exploring and watching to
> scientific observation, analysis and documentation (using taxonomy, -one of
> the most demanding subjects).
> Now we are progressing towards the conservation science, where we interpret
> our observations over wide temporal and spatial scale to understand species
> status and ecology in the wild. Our observations with/without photographs
> are important "primary observational data". This will certainly be of great
> help to the conservation planners. Till now population level data about many
> rare species was almost non-existent, so our observational data is a step
> towards it.
> Hence, let us keep documenting and sharing as we do right now, keeping in
> mind that the ultimate goal is conservation of flora and fauna in their
> natural habitat.
> Regards,
> Aparna
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes
> > Thanks everybody for sharing their knowledge. We are here to document the
> > facts and share with others and this way and by whatever other means try to
> > conserve these species or help or support them who are already doing it.
> > I can safely concur that most of the flowering of the species occurs before
> > Sep. and there are quite a number of specimens on the plateau and as rightly
> > told by Aparna ji one should not be greedy of its photographs.
> > Dr Phadke
>
> > On 22 September 2010 11:23, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes
> > Thanks everybody for sharing their knowledge. We are here to document the
> > facts and share with others and this way and by whatever other means try to
> > conserve these species or help or support them who are already doing it.
> > I can safely concur that most of the flowering of the species occurs before
> > Sep. and there are quite a number of specimens on the plateau and as rightly
> > told by Aparna ji one should not be greedy of its photographs.
> > Dr Phadke
>
>
> >> A lone specimen of* Aponogeton satarensis* was observed on Kas plateau 19
> >> Sep 2010 which was flowering.
> >> As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly
> >> finished.
> >> We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat
> >> ji who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
> >> Regards
> >> Dr Phadke
>
> --
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
> Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
> Seoni.480661
> tel: 07692-228115
> mobile: (0)9755667710 and 9822597288 still works- Hide quoted text -
> >> As per Aparna ji's observation The flowering season might have nearly
> >> finished.
> >> We have already seen its pictures posted by Usha ji yesterday and Swagat
> >> ji who has seen it sometime in Jun Jul this year.
> >> Regards
> >> Dr Phadke
>
> --
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
> Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
> Seoni.480661
> tel: 07692-228115
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pankaj Oudhia
23 Sept 2010, 10:02:23 am23/09/10
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Shrikant ji, during Gujrat conference in near past many researchers were discussing the cultivation methods of Iphigenia stellata. Based on Traditional Allelopathic Knowledge I suggested them herbal extracts in order to increase its medicinal ingredients. I will return back to them and ask for details.
As mentioned in previous mails that I am called frequently by herb growers of Pune and Mumbai . They ask for new medicinal crop. Now I feel that I must suggest them to grow Iphigenia stellata in large scale. Lets hope that it will reduce the pressure of its natural population in coming years.
regards
Pankaj Oudhia
As mentioned in previous mails that I am called frequently by herb growers of Pune and Mumbai . They ask for new medicinal crop. Now I feel that I must suggest them to grow Iphigenia stellata in large scale. Lets hope that it will reduce the pressure of its natural population in coming years.
regards
Pankaj Oudhia
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