Habenaria species

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manudev madhavan

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12 Mar 2011, 4:52:57 am12/03/11
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Dear All,

Attaching here with the image of Habenaria plantaginea Lindl.
Please Validate

Collected from, Sulthan Bathery, Wayanad District, Kerala

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manudev madhavan

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12 Mar 2011, 4:54:59 am12/03/11
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tanay bose

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12 Mar 2011, 10:04:36 am12/03/11
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Very Nice Cat Manudev ji
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hari lal

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13 Mar 2011, 5:03:36 am13/03/11
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very nice capturing
hari shankar lal

On 3/12/11, tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very Nice Cat Manudev ji
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> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:54 AM, manudev madhavan <
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>> Dear All,
>>

>> Attaching here with the image of *Habenaria plantagine*a Lindl.


>> Please Validate
>>
>> Collected from, Sulthan Bathery, Wayanad District, Kerala
>>
>> regards
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>> *Manudev K Madhavan*


>> Junior Research Fellow
>> Systematic & Floristic Lab,
>> Department of Botany,
>> Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research
>> St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
>> Kozhikode- 673 008
>> Mob: 9496470738
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kalidass Chinnamadasamy

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13 Mar 2011, 6:45:22 am13/03/11
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Dear all,

yours photo is very nice, but give habit of the taxa. Habenaria have rosette arrangement on the base. one more thick for that the rhizome Tribes are used as snake bite.


KALIDASS C
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Pankaj Kumar

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13 Mar 2011, 10:44:56 am13/03/11
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When did you find this in flowering?
Secondly, please see the flowers on flowersofindia.net
The spur if too long and yours is too short!!!!
Can you send me pic of complete plant plz.
Pankaj
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Muthu Karthick

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14 Mar 2011, 1:32:13 am14/03/11
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Kindly refer the .pdf attached here.
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manudev madhavan

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14 Mar 2011, 1:44:13 am14/03/11
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Thanks for the details Muthuji..

So the spur is 1.5-3 times longer than ovary according to santapau & Kapadia.
I think, I should have a closer look on the specimen with me...??

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Muthu Karthick

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14 Mar 2011, 4:16:41 am14/03/11
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Yes Manudevji,
The spur in your plant too appears almost 3cm. Check the specimen with the key. Sub-radical leaves should be the characteristic feature to sort down easily.
Kindly refer this picture: http://flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Plantain%20Orchid.html as Pankajji suggested. 

"sepals less than 5mm; stems  to 30cm; Lip much longer than sepals, with a linear midlobe and broad oblique sidelobes of same length; spur green, 15-25mm, longer than ovary (with pedicel); Fl- Nov Dec" -- description as per An Excursion Flora of Central TN by K.M Matthew, 1991

manudev madhavan

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14 Mar 2011, 8:52:05 am14/03/11
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Muthuji,

I have checked it with the description available in "Orchids of Nilgiris by Joseph". The spur is nearly equal to the length of the ovary, which is about 1 cm only. According to his description spur is considerably longer than ovary, and the bracts are smaller than ovary, which is in contrast almost equal to the length of the ovary in my plant. Other features are almost similar. Since I didn't had a closer look, can not make a decision now. In the morning i had a chat with Pankajji. As he suggested, we should be critical in deciding the identity, and in addition, I only have a single specimen with me. So, we can not make sure whether the differences seen in this plant is stable or not???? Also am not sure whether the flower i have photographed is a younger one, which may or may not elongate their spur as said in description...???
So, i think, its better dissect out the flower and have a closer look at it..!!

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Pankaj Kumar

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14 Mar 2011, 9:08:54 am14/03/11
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My dear brothers,
You both are taxonomists and much much better than me, why dont you read the type description in Genera and Species of Orchidaceous Plants by Lindley.
The last line says:
"calcare arcuato filiformi pendulo ovario rostrato longiore"

It means, "SPUR ARCHED, FILIFORM, PENDULOUS, BEAKED AND LONGER THAN OVARY".

Very rarely in these plants, spur keeps on growing after blooming. secondly, I have seen this plant so many times, even in the bud condition, spurs are longer as in my picture....
But yes, we cant decide from one pic, as it can be just a deformity. So keep your specimen with you and next time look at it again in the field and if this character is there, then either its a different species or variety altogether or its something which we are not thinking of!!

Pankaj
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