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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Nov 11, 2008, 7:39:24 AM11/11/08
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This was sent by me yestrday, and has not appeaaared till today evening, so I thought I would cut the number of photographs and send two different mails;
to repeat: 
When I casually  purchased some moring glory seeds from Delhi and planted them at random along my boundary wall, I could never imagine that it would bloom so gloriously and  profusely.  I am attaching some photographs
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 11, 2008, 9:46:41 AM11/11/08
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Hi, Anand ji,
Appears like Ipomoea purpurea (?). See the details from Indiantreepix Database:
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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Nov 12, 2008, 5:43:48 AM11/12/08
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I haave tried to reduce the size of the photographs.
akbhatt

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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Nov 12, 2008, 5:46:02 AM11/12/08
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Aren't the two that is Ipomoea purpurea and common morning glory synonymous?
akbhatt

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Sanjeev Saikia

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Nov 12, 2008, 6:13:00 AM11/12/08
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Hi,
 
I have an Alstonia scholaris in front of my house. Out of curiosity I wanted to know if someone has any idea what the cultural roots of the Alstonia scholaris tree being called 'Devil's tree' is? It is also called a Yakshi tree etc. why so much association with the supernatural? Any information on this? I know it is also called the scholar's tree because its wood is used to make scholarly furniture like reading tables etc.
 
Regards,
 
Sanjeev


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 12, 2008, 7:05:52 AM11/12/08
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Hi, Anand ji,
Yeah, they are one & the same thing.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 12, 2008, 7:55:12 AM11/12/08
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"There are different beliefs associated with trees. It is believed that during the Chaturmasya, the gods rest in trees and plants. Therefore if trees are worshipped and boons asked for during this time, the gods are said to be generous. Kalpavriksha, a mythological tree mentioned in the Puranas, is believed to be a wish-granting tree. The spirits that live in certain trees like the jackfruit are believed to wander from their arboreal homes at night. For this reason, people avoid certain trees after dark (see Popular Superstitions) However not all trees are considered auspicious. The tamarind (Tamarindus indica) is one such tree that has no place in ceremonies, since the sourness of its fruit is not appropriate to the auspicious spirit of such events. The chaitan or Devil's Tree (Alstonia scholaris) is believed to be the home of the devil."

Quoting from another link: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t105673.html
"Like the Portuguese BRUXSA, YAKSHI also targets lonely and lost travelers at night. Palm trees are said to be her abode. There are several folklores on YAKSHI. The modus operandi employed by them to lure the victims is by and large the same. During nighttime the YAKSHI assumes the form of a beautiful woman and waits for her victim. When a potential prey is spotted, she approaches him and asks for little 'lime' that is used for chewing along with betel leaf. If the victim relents he would be enchanted by the charm of the YAKSHI and follow her for carnal enjoyment. The charm would disappear soon and what appeared as a palace would transform back into the unassuming crown of a palm tree and the beautiful woman the dreaded YAKSHI. The next day what the travelers would see are the hair and nails at the bottom of the Palm tree. It is also said that whenever a YAKSHI appears there would be fragrance of jasmine or Pala (Alstonia scholaris). Iron is a potent repellent for YAKSHI."

Kenneth Greby

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Nov 12, 2008, 8:19:42 AM11/12/08
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As an interesting aside, a related tree, Rauvolfia samarensis, was introduced into Southern California, USA, erroneously as Alstonia scholaris, circa 1900. Despite being native to The Phillipines, the "common" names "Indian Devil Tree" and "Indian Devil Pepper" stuck with this tree in the nursery trade. Unfortunately, religious superstitions in the US, especially with regards to the word "devil" in the name, have done severe harm to the ability of this quality tree to gain a wider, deserved use in California and Florida (USA) landscapes.

Regards--
Ken Greby
Palmetto Bay, Florida USA

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Nov 12, 2008, 11:25:11 AM11/12/08
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I would like to add some facts-
Tamarind comes from the arabic word - Tamar-i-hind, but it is a
misnomer, it is an East African plant, introduced to India about 2
thousand years back. May be that is why it is not included in the
Puranas.
Alstonia scholaris- Like olive branches, the Chhatim (in Beng.) leaves
are offered to the scholars, (as introduced by Tagore- in his Viswa
Bharati University. ) Again when the plant is in flower after monsoon,
innumerable small whitish yellowish greenish flowers give out a very
strong scent partcularly after the nightfall, which often causes
strong headache. Moreover, its pollens cause allergy. May be it is
the reason for calling it devil tree.

On Nov 12, 6:19 pm, Kenneth Greby <fstf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> As an interesting aside, a related tree, Rauvolfia samarensis, was introduced into Southern California, USA, erroneously as Alstonia scholaris, circa 1900. Despite being native to The Phillipines, the "common" names "Indian Devil Tree" and "Indian Devil Pepper" stuck with this tree in the nursery trade. Unfortunately, religious superstitions in the US, especially with regards to the word "devil" in the name, have done severe harm to the ability of this quality tree to gain a wider, deserved use in California and Florida (USA) landscapes.
>
> Regards--
> Ken Greby
> Palmetto Bay, Florida USA
>
> --- On Wed, 11/12/08, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [indiantreepix:5848] Re: Query on Alstonia scholaris (Devil's tree)
> To: "Sanjeev Saikia" <sanjeev_bi...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: indian...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 7:55 AM
>
> Here I am quoting from a link:http://www.gurjari.net/ico/Mystica/html/scared_trees.htm
> "There are different beliefs associated with trees. It is believed that during the Chaturmasya, the gods rest in trees and plants. Therefore if trees are worshipped and boons asked for during this time, the gods are said to be generous. Kalpavriksha, a mythological tree mentioned in the Puranas, is believed to be a wish-granting tree. The spirits that live in certain trees like the jackfruit are believed to wander from their arboreal homes at night. For this reason, people avoid certain trees after dark (see Popular Superstitions) However not all trees are considered auspicious. The tamarind (Tamarindus indica) is one such tree that has no place in ceremonies, since the sourness of its fruit is not appropriate to the auspicious spirit of such events. The chaitan or Devil's Tree (Alstonia scholaris) is believed to be the home of the devil."
>
> Quoting from another link:http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t105...
> "Like the Portuguese BRUXSA, YAKSHI also targets lonely and lost travelers at night. Palm trees are said to be her abode. There are several folklores on YAKSHI. The modus operandi employed by them to lure the victims is by and large the same. During nighttime the YAKSHI assumes the form of a beautiful woman and waits for her victim. When a potential prey is spotted, she approaches him and asks for little 'lime' that is used for chewing along with betel leaf. If the victim relents he would be enchanted by the charm of the YAKSHI and follow her for carnal enjoyment. The charm would disappear soon and what appeared as a palace would transform back into the unassuming crown of a palm tree and the beautiful woman the dreaded YAKSHI. The next day what the travelers would see are the hair and nails at the bottom of the Palm tree. It is also said that whenever a YAKSHI appears there would be fragrance of jasmine or Pala (Alstonia scholaris). Iron is a potent
>  repellent for YAKSHI."
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Sanjeev Saikia <sanjeev_bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have an Alstonia scholaris in front of my house. Out of curiosity I wanted to know if someone has any idea what the cultural roots of the Alstonia scholaris tree being called 'Devil's tree' is? It is also called a Yakshi tree etc. why so much association with the supernatural? Any information on this? I know it is also called the scholar's tree because its wood is used to make scholarly furniture like reading tables etc.
>
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Sanjeev
>

Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Nov 13, 2008, 9:35:49 AM11/13/08
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I have also heard that this tree is not bird friendly and the birds do not like to roost, perch or nest on it. When I asked somebody who has a number of Alstonia trees at his workplace, he could not give a clear reply. I don't blame him. He is neither a tree lover not a birder.
akbhatt

Mahadeswara Swamy

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Nov 15, 2008, 8:30:01 AM11/15/08
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In Mysore I have seen plenty of paraketes (rather in 100s) on this tree. There are many Alstonia trees on Sayyaji Rao Road , Mysore. One can see hundreds of paraketes and other birds.
Dr. Mahadeswara swamy


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Sanjeev Saikia

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Nov 16, 2008, 12:01:30 AM11/16/08
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Dear Mr. Bhatt,
 
Thank you so much for your email. As I had written before I have an alstonia scholaris right in front of my house, and I have seen birds on it often. Regarding roosting, I think on some evening I have heard activity of birds settling down in it.
 
I have observed many birds species in the branches of this tree, sunbirds, oriental whiteeyes, red vented bulbuls, sparrows, collared doves and others...
 
Now, I will observe carefully whether birds roost in it or not... an interesting project for me thanks to you.
 
Warm regards,
 
Sanjeev Saikia




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Nudrat

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Nov 17, 2008, 1:52:51 AM11/17/08
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Hi
According to the legend i was told Alstonia is supposed to be a
straight trunk tree hence only the Devil can reach its highest branch
hence it is called Devil's Tree.
On Nov 16, 10:01 am, Sanjeev Saikia <sanjeev_bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Bhatt,
>
> Thank you so much for your email. As I had written before I have an alstonia scholaris right in front of my house, and I have seen birds on it often. Regarding roosting, I think on some evening I have heard activity of birds settling down in it.
>
> I have observed many birds species in the branches of this tree, sunbirds, oriental whiteeyes, red vented bulbuls, sparrows, collared doves and others...
>
> Now, I will observe carefully whether birds roost in it or not... an interesting project for me thanks to you.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Sanjeev Saikia
>
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:05:49 +0530From: anandkbh...@gmail.comTo: sanjeev_bi...@hotmail.comSubject: [indiantreepix:5879] Re: Query on Alstonia scholaris (Devil's tree)CC: indian...@googlegroups.com
> I have also heard that this tree is not bird friendly and the birds do not like to roost, perch or nest on it. When I asked somebody who has a number of Alstonia trees at his workplace, he could not give a clear reply. I don't blame him. He is neither a tree lover not a birder.
> akbhatt
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Sanjeev Saikia <sanjeev_bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi, I have an Alstonia scholaris in front of my house. Out of curiosity I wanted to know if someone has any idea what the cultural roots of the Alstonia scholaris tree being called 'Devil's tree' is? It is also called a Yakshi tree etc. why so much association with the supernatural? Any information on this? I know it is also called the scholar's tree because its wood is used to make scholarly furniture like reading tables etc. Regards, Sanjeev
>
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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Nov 17, 2008, 2:26:37 AM11/17/08
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Thanks  for the info. Let me know  if there is something new which you get to know.
  The birds' unfamilliarity is sometimes the factiors which shies them away from the tree. They say that gulmohur is a example. I do not believe them fully. Calliandra is an exotic plant, and it is a darling of the birds.
In any case Saptaparni is a local tree.
akbhatt




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