abutilon indicum

[Mohina Macker]

abutilon indicum

been seeing it in flower for the last couple of weeks, in alibaug

the flowers are small, about 12 mm or so

regards

mohina macker

[H S]

I guess this is Sida cordifolia

regards,

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes it is not Abutilon

The second photograph I agree with H S, belongs to S. cordifolia, but interesting the first photograph appears different. Longer slender pedicels and slender stems, smaller flowers suggest S. cordata (syn: S. veronicifolia) for the first photograph.

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[hari lal]

yes sida cordifolia

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[Mohina Macker]

many many thanks for all the identifications

ireally appreciate all the time that goes in

i have added another photograph of the same plant as 755

maybe it will help

regards

mohina

 

[Neil Soares]

Hi Mohina,  Just checked your photographs. This is also Sida cordata.                        Regards,                         Neil. --- On Fri, 10/21/11, Mohina Macker <mohina...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Giby Kuriakose]

Erect herb, leaves cordate and hairy (stem too), pedicel is shorter than peduncle: Sida cordifolia 

Trailing herb, leaves faintly hairy or even sometimes glabrous pedicel is as long as or longer than peduncle: Sida cordata

My guess, based on the pedicel length, is that this plant is S. cordifolia of Malvaceae family

Regards,

Giby 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

The first photograph (DSCN0755a.jpg) and photograph uploaded subsequently (DSCN0757a.jpg) belong to Sida cordata (syn: S. veronicifolia)

Second photograph (DSCN0769aa.jpg) Sida cordifolia

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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[Vijayasankar]

To me all three pictures look like Sida cordata, as suggested by Neil ji.
Pl see this link for S. cordifolia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sida_cordifolia_%28Bala%29_in_Hyderabad,_AP_W_IMG_9420.jpg

 

Regards 

 

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

[Gurcharan Singh]

To me leaf shape, colour, and very short pedicel of second photograph can't be ignored. The other two have slender long pedicel of S. cordata.

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[Ushadi micromini]

FOR NON BOTANISTS:
INCLUDING MYSELF:

Peduncle has different meaning(s) in medicine...
so had to do some reading:

the nuances are different in Botany:
this is what I learnt today: RE-LEARNT: since after 1962/3... ha ha..
A Pedicle, Pedicel, and Peduncle are the same thing : A stalk...
and leaf stalk is different named....

A pedicle is what we use mostly in medicine: stalk or a long base of
a tumor, benign or malignant....


A leaf stalk is called : A petiole

A stalk of a flower cluster is called: Peduncle
A stalk of a single flower (when it grows independently, not part of a
cluster) is called : Peduncle

A stalk of an individual flower in a cluster or an inflorescence is
called : Pedicel
A stalk of a moss capsule is also called: Pedicel:

Source: based this on a few dictionaries ...

An extensively illustrated Taxonomic dictionary for botany would be
very handy...
don't have one in my library.. could you please suggest one?
thanks for the lesson.... Everybody....
usha di
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On Oct 21, 9:47 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To me leaf shape, colour, and very short pedicel of second photograph can't
> be ignored. The other two have slender long pedicel of S. cordata.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > To me all three pictures look like Sida cordata, as suggested by Neil ji.
> > Pl see this link for S. cordifolia

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sida_cordifolia_%28Bala%29_in_Hyder...

>
> > Regards
>
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
>

> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> The first photograph (*DSCN0755a.jpg) *and photograph uploaded
> >> subsequently (*DSCN0757a.jpg) *belong to Sida cordata (syn: S.
> >> veronicifolia)
>
> >> Second photograph (*DSCN0769aa.jpg) Sida cordifolia*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *

> >> --
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired  Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>

> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> Erect herb, leaves cordate and hairy (stem too), *pedicel is shorter
> >>> than peduncle*: *Sida cordifolia*
>
> >>> Trailing herb, leaves faintly hairy or even sometimes glabrous *pedicel
> >>> is as long as or longer than peduncle*: *Sida cordata*
>
> >>> My guess, based on the pedicel length, is that this plant is *S.
> >>> cordifolia *of Malvaceae family
>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Giby

>
> >>> On 21 October 2011 18:55, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Hi Mohina,
> >>>>  Just checked your photographs. This is also Sida cordata.
> >>>>                        Regards,
> >>>>                         Neil.
>

> >>>> --- On *Fri, 10/21/11, Mohina Macker <mohinamac...@gmail.com>* wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

Just to add to useful information by Ushadi

Peduncle and scape are two terms which we use for the stalk of the inflorescence having no leaves on it.

When this arises from aerial branches, we call it peduncle (Ixora, Cassia, Acacia, etc.), situation is tricky in some plants with solitary flowers like say Hibiscus, where lower portion of stalk is peduncle, upper pedicel, and a joint between the two point of separation: position often an important taxonomic character.

When this stalk arises from basal rosette of leaves, like in onion (and other Allium sp.), some Crinum species, we call it scape (and not peduncle) and inflorescence scapigerous .

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  Would suggest you buy a basic textbook of Botany used in colleges.  A.C.Dutta's 'A Class Book of Botany' would do for starters.                       With regards,                         Neil Soares. --- On Sat, 10/22/11, Ushadi micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  My apologies. Prof. Singh would be the right person to suggest this - possibly one of the many books authoured by him.  The book I have suggeste is available in Bombay. Another book [with difficulty] is 'A Textbook of Systemic Botany' by Prof. R.N.Sutaria.                      With regards,                        Neil Soares.  --- On Sat, 10/22/11, Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

Neil ji

No two opinions. We all have graduated reading A. C. Dutta

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[ushadi Micromini]

Dear Neil and Gurcharanji:
1: thank you for the two book names.
2: Thanks for adding the info...
esp about the pedicel/pedical of Hibiscus...
that's why the flower breaks off so easily the day after blooming and often falls off on its own leaving behind a segment of the stalk..
next time it happens I'll look at it with a little more knowing eyes.
Usha di
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[J.M. Garg]

I think it will be Sida mysorensis Wight & Arn. as per discussions at efi thread., as this one has branched inflorescence, whereas, flowers in S. cordata are solitary.

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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 at 11:45
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Mohina Macker]

Dear Garg Ji

thank you for this information

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Yes it's Garg Ji,

With regards. 

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