Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1

[Gurcharan Singh]

After ossilating between Dregea volubilis and Marsdenia tenacissima for a long time,  I revisited the plant  after returning from California. I photographed nearly mature fruits which have grown to about 10 cm in length. I want to finally settle for Dregea volubilis. It matches with Dinesh ji's photographs on Flikr. Need your comments.

 

 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45

----- Original Message -----

From: Gurcharan Singh

To: Gurcharan Singh ; Dinesh Valke ; satish pardeshi ; Neil Soares

Cc: Indian Tree Pix

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:01 AM

Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1

Here are the fruits, it probably finally confirms Marsdenia tenacissima. please verify.

 

 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45

----- Original Message -----

From: Gurcharan Singh

To: Dinesh Valke ; satish pardeshi ; Neil Soares

Cc: Indian Tree Pix

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:57 PM

Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1

Thanks Satish ji

I will concentrate on Marsdenia tenacissima and report back soon.

 

Garg ji, with persons  like Satish Valke, Satish Phadke. Dinesh, Devendra, Tabish, Neil, Prashant, Swagat, Nayan,  Pankaj, Rani, Yazdi, Thiru (and several others actively contributing in the group), who have such a keen eye, zeal to investigate and not take a names published in Floras  foregranted, the group has a great future. We should not be surprised if the real face of Indian Flora has a changed look soon. Recent interactions on the group give a strong indication that probably Indian Flora is much more and different than what we know at present.

   Not to forget the inputs of our keen photographers in the group, with little or no training in the study of plants, supplying a wide array of beautiful photographs from different parts of India.

 

Please keep up the spirit.

 

  

 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College
University of Delhi, Delhi
India
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45

----- Original Message -----

From: Dinesh Valke

To: satish pardeshi ; Gurcharan Singh-sify ; Neil Soares

Cc: Indian Tree Pix

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:34 PM

Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17294] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1

Below is Satish ji's response ...

 

Gurcharan ji, you had rightly doubted about your plant being Dregea volubilis. Many thanks to you; an enlightening post.

Please check Marsdenia tinacissima (syn. D. tinacissima) as pointed out by Satish ji.

 

Regards.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:20 PM, satish pardeshi <satishp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Dinesh Ji
looking at the pic of the plant which you provided in the link
i believe the plant is Marsdenia tinacissima ie D. tinacissima

regards
Satish Pardeshi

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dinesh Valke<dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Satish ji and friends, ... a search on internet, I found these links,
> possibly may help in ID of Gurcharan ji's plant.
>
> 1) http://www.plant.ac.cn/dan_tu/26/20897.htm
> 2) http://www.plant.ac.cn/dan_tu/13/10834.htm
> 3)
> http://www.botanypictures.com/plantimages//marsdenia%20tenacissima%2001%20jmpg.jpg
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Pardeshi S. <satishp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Singh Ji, Dinesh Ji and Neil Ji
>> please check in Cooke's Flora
>> it says
>> Corolla hairy outside......Marsdenia tenacissima (Dregea Tenacissima)
>> Corolla glabrous outside......M. volubilis
>>
>> the description of M. tenacissima: A large twinning shrub, old stem
>> with grey corky bark, BRANCHLETS SOFTLY PUBESCENT.
>>
>> the description of M. volubilis: A large twinning shrub, older BRANCES
>> GLABROUS.
>> Hence i feel it can be Marsdenia tenacissima
>> however i had not seen Marsdenia tenacissima, but collected Dregea
>> volubilis and can say the pubescent plant is different that D.
>> volubilis.
>>
>> regards
>> Satish Pardeshi
>>
>>
>> Neil Soares wrote:
>> > Hi Prof. Singh & Dinesh,
>> >           Sending you some of my photographs for comparison.
>> >                            Regards,
>> >                              Neil Soares.
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17275] Re: Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
>> > To: "Gurcharan Singh" <sin...@sify.com>
>> > Cc: "indiantreepix" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>> > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:59 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ... I am afraid I cannot voice on that, Gurcharan ji.
>> > I will take it as normal; however hoping some friend comes to rescue,
>> > and validates :-)
>> >
>> > Adding common names of this plant: cotton milk plant, green milkweed
>> > climber, green wax flower, sneezing silk • Assamese: খমল লতা khamal lata •
>> > Bengali: titakunga • Gujarati: માલતી malati • Hindi: अकड़ बेल akad bel,
>> > हरणडोडी harandodi, नखछिकनी nak-chikni • Kannada: ದುಗ್ಧಿವೆ dugdhive •
>> > Konkani: अमरी ambri • Malayalam: velipparuthi • Marathi: हरणदोडी harandodi,
>> > नखसिकणी nakhasikani • Oriya: dudghika • Sanskrit: हेमजिवन्ती hemajivanti •
>> > Tamil: கொடிப்பாலை koti-p-palai • Telugu: దూదిపాలతీగ dudipalatiga
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <sin...@sify.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> > My specimens seem to be much more velvety, is it normal?
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> > Associate Professor
>> > SGTB Khalsa College
>> > University of Delhi, Delhi
>> > India
>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Dinesh Valke
>> > To: Gurcharan Singh
>> > Cc: indiantreepix
>> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17271] Dregea volubilis ID 310809GS1
>> >
>> >
>> > ... indeed, Gurcharan ji.
>> > Few photos attached; for more views:
>> > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Dregea%20volubilis&w=91314344%40N00
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Gurcharan Singh <sin...@sify.com>
>> > wrote:
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>> > This is what I think Dregea volubilis in flower, please confirm
>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> > Associate Professor
>> > SGTB Khalsa College
>> > University of Delhi, Delhi
>> > India
>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45
>>