Find & Replace

[Paul Marriner]

I am considering adding a page or two to a book that has already been indexed. Having spent 5 hrs cleaning up ID's (CS6) generated index I have no intention of repeating that task. I could add these two pages at the end and then add them manually to the index but that's an ugly kludge. Is it possible in grep to find and add 1 to page numbers to a selection of index pages. For example, the first new page is 122. So I would add 1 to each page number larger than 122. If the next one was 265, rinse and repeat. Possible?

Paul

[mraj]

I don't think it's possible with Grep, but probably with a script 

Michel Raj

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Date : 18/09/2016 21:32 (GMT+01:00)
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Objet : [ID] Find & Replace

I am considering adding a page or two to a book that has already been indexed. Having spent 5 hrs cleaning up ID's (CS6) generated index I have no intention of repeating that task. I could add these two pages at the end and then add them manually to the index but that's an ugly kludge. Is it possible in grep to find and add 1 to page numbers to a selection of index pages. For example, the first new page is 122. So I would add 1 to each page number larger than 122. If the next one was 265, rinse and repeat. Possible?

Paul

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[Mike Witherell]

http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/price_adjuster.html

http://indesignsecrets.com/topic/grep-search-to-increment-numbers-7

That should do it!

Mike Witherell in Maryland (and sometimes the sub-arctic)

[RE Gmail]

Don't forget about dates and other numbers in your index. I seem to remember this being discussed several years ago. IIRC, the solution was to apply a character style to the numbers you did want changed.

Rebecca Evans

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[C F Majors]

I think she remembers that correctly!

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Carol Majors / Publications unltd 

Raleigh NC

[Paul Marriner]

Unfortunately I'm still having problems. In the script that follows I can't figure out what I'm supposed to select. Selecting something in the document doesn't work. Also I don't really need the ranges except in the sense of "all larger than xxx" Can anyone enlighten me? And yes I have applied a character style to the page numbers. Paul

//DESCRIPTION: Change some numbers and leave some else. In a selection as well.

// A Jongware production. No guarantees.

var ranges = [

[54, 103, 1],

[104, 178, 2]

];

// step 0: verify selection

if (app.selection.length != 1)

{

alert (“Well, I warned you to select something!”);

exit();

}

// step 1: find ALL numbers

app.findGrepPreferences.appliedCharacterStyle = “YourCharacterStyleNameHere“;

app.findChangeGrepOptions = null;

app.findGrepPreferences = null;

app.findGrepPreferences.findWhat = “\b\d+\b”;

numberList = app.selection[0].findGrep(true);

// alert ('found '+numberList.length);

// step 2: change certain ranges

for (a=0; a<numberList.length; a++)

{

thisVal = Number(numberList[a].contents);

for (b=0; b<ranges.length; b++)

{

if (thisVal >= ranges[b][0] && thisVal <= ranges[b][1])

{

numberList[a].contents = String(thisVal+ranges[b][2]);

break;

}

}

}

// step 3: … erm. That's all!

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I think she remembers that correctly!

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Carol Majors / Publications unltd 

Raleigh NC

On Sep 18, 2016, at 6:30 PM, RE Gmail <forsal...@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't forget about dates and other numbers in your index. I seem to remember this being discussed several years ago. IIRC, the solution was to apply a character style to the numbers you did want changed.

Rebecca Evans

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Date:09/18/2016 6:11 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: InDesign talk <indesign-talk@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [ID] Re: Find & Replace

http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/price_adjuster.html

http://indesignsecrets.com/topic/grep-search-to-increment-numbers-7

That should do it!

Mike Witherell in Maryland (and sometimes the sub-arctic)

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 3:32:52 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

I am considering adding a page or two to a book that has already been indexed. Having spent 5 hrs cleaning up ID's (CS6) generated index I have no intention of repeating that task. I could add these two pages at the end and then add them manually to the index but that's an ugly kludge. Is it possible in grep to find and add 1 to page numbers to a selection of index pages. For example, the first new page is 122. So I would add 1 to each page number larger than 122. If the next one was 265, rinse and repeat. Possible?

Paul

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[C F Majors]

You are looking for every number that has that character style. In  the step 1 part of the script. 

Carol Majors 

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[Paul Marriner]

I'm afraid that didn't help. I can see that I'm doa without some scripting knowledge. What I need is a grep search or a script that will select all numbers above a specified number, e.g., all numbers above 136 in a document where the numbers aren't in order (ie an index). Then I could use a change numbers script (available) to increment all selected numbers by 1.

Paul

[David Blatner]

I like Mike Witherell's script ideas…

(Hey Mike! Did you see my email to you re: The InDesign Conference coming to DC?)

One other script idea is:

http://indesignsecrets.com/free-script-to-change-all-numbers-in-a-document-using-math.php

It's especially helpful when you have applied a character style to the numbers.

--david blatner

[C F Majors]

My approach, which I cannot test, to a similar problem as this, broke down into two strategies. First was to find the right parameters to find all the page numbers to be staffed and turn them into something like "red" color in a character style. This now is your target, defined and marked. 

Then using GREP, the logic goes like this. Find the red characters. Then replace with the contents of the "find" -- plus 1. 

I would leave the character color change until every thing is finis. 

Without my computer open, I can only speak in general terms. 

From what I can tell, this script is designed for this purpose. 

So you create a new char style for the numbers you wish to change, and that can be as simple as finding those numbers and changing them to "red" and naming the char style. Then when the script asks for that, you give it that name. 

Maybe in step 0 you select a sample of this at the start of the index. Maybe. 

Does this get you started? 

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[C F Majors]

First was to find the right parameters to find all the page numbers to be staffed

I have no idea what autocorrect was going for here. I meant "changed."

[RE Gmail]

Don't you love autocorrect? Especially if you use abbrevistions--I once sent an editor an email about "uncle pigs" instead of "uncxd pgs."

Rebecca

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[Michael Brady]

> Don't you love autocorrect? Especially if you use abbrevistions--I once sent an editor an email about "uncle pigs" instead of "uncxd pgs."

I call it “autospellnanny.” And BTW, Rebecca, what are you using that confuses the nanny?

[R Evans]

What the heck is "abbrevistions"? I meant abbreviations, of course. Where is that nanny when you need her?

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> Don't you love autocorrect? Especially if you use abbrevistions--I once sent an editor an email about "uncle pigs" instead of "uncxd pgs."

I call it “autospellnanny.” And BTW, Rebecca, what are you using that confuses the nanny?

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[Paul Marriner]

Hi Carol. Everything stumbles around the first strategy. Once you can select the range you want changed Mike's script (which I had already found on InDesign Secrets, thanks David) will do the job. How do I "find" and "select" all numbers greater than "xxx"? I don't really even need an "internal" range. As long as I can get all the numbers larger than xxx and increase them by 1 then I can just repeat for another page number which is larger than the original. If it wasn't an Index (page numbers not consecutive), then Peter Kharel's script would work fine.

Paul 

[C F Majors]

When I read his script, there is a place for those parameters. 

So you can select all page numbers, make them a new char style (pagenum-red), and then make that choice when running the script. 

If the script doesn't ask you this, then you could edit the script appropriately. That may be the issue here. 

For ex: bold highlight. -- YourCharacterStyleNameHere

This should say "pagenum-red" if that is what you named that char style. 

In step 2, does the script ask you for the number range? If you get past the first error message, it looks like you have a chance to say "136" to "end (what page number is that)"

It's a beautiful GREP. I'm not an expert, but all the logic seems to be in it.

//DESCRIPTION: Change some numbers and leave some else. In a selection as well.

// A Jongware production. No guarantees.

var ranges = [

[54, 103, 1],

[104, 178, 2]

];

// step 0: verify selection

if (app.selection.length != 1)

{

alert (“Well, I warned you to select something!”);

exit();

}

// step 1: find ALL numbers

app.findGrepPreferences.appliedCharacterStyle = “YourCharacterStyleNameHere“;

app.findChangeGrepOptions = null;

app.findGrepPreferences = null;

app.findGrepPreferences.findWhat = “\b\d+\b”;

numberList = app.selection[0].findGrep(true);

// alert ('found '+numberList.length);

// step 2: change certain ranges

for (a=0; a<numberList.length; a++)

{

thisVal = Number(numberList[a].contents);

for (b=0; b<ranges.length; b++)

{

if (thisVal >= ranges[b][0] && thisVal <= ranges[b][1])

{

numberList[a].contents = String(thisVal+ranges[b][2]);

break;

}

}

}

// step 3: … erm. That's all!

Carol Majors 

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[Paul Marriner]

Here's the problem. You can't select multiple numbers in InD, at least as far as I know. You can select a single number but that's it. Using find/change I've given all the pg numbers in the Index a character style.

In the script which are the variables? It won't run past the "I told you to select something". I can select the index (all alphanumeric characters) or a single number, still fails. What is it that the author expects selected? If I edit the script I can get it to line 17 but then it expects something for the variables b, and d+

Very confusing. I understand it was a throwaway script intended for scriptors but it's impenetrable to me.  

[C F Majors]

Can someone help Paul here?

I’m in over my head as I don’t have his setup to test this. Nor am I an expert. 

This I do think: 

Step 0

I would expect you select the area you want the script to apply to. So select the index pages. 

Step 1

Type in the style name between the quote marks. 

Step 2

This is where I don’t know what to expect. David Blatner has a nice one page summary of the basic expressions. 

app.findGrepPreferences.findWhat = “\b\d+\b”;    < this means find all digits (which already limited to the char-style)

Here is an online resource that may help. Kahrel’s book. 

https://books.google.com/books?id=qLfF72T4jY0C&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=what+is+b+and+d%2B+in+grep&source=bl&ots=DHf5BOszzF&sig=f582M9NiBaHHZOm7jwYQ47GRI6k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb1ICgqZ7PAhUCOCYKHaaLBQoQ6AEIJDAB#v=onepage&q=what%20is%20b%20and%20d%2B%20in%20grep&f=false

What I did for a 500 page book that had certain letter pairs that needed kerning, was to do it manually by searching for all the pairs and turning them red, then searching for red and certain of the pairs, and then manually kerning them in the find window. There is a certain way to run that window so that it stays in place, and then you can hit return and then do the next one. I had a bunch of keystrokes sequenced in my mind. I guarantee if you can find a way to use color to select your targets, you get a whole lot better control. I would use another color for a “fixed” number, but I can’t tell you how off hand. I might have made a “blue” char style that I applied immediately and manually after the “find” was fixed. 

Since it is all numbers after 136, I don’t know if there is a grep search in the find change for that, but I expect there is. I would use my friend google to look for that. 

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[Paul Marriner]

Many thanks for the valiant effort Carol. Btw, selecting the entire index doesn't help, I still get the "no selection" error. If anyone wants to give it a try here's the "A" section of the Index. The numbers all have character style, "indexPgNumbers". The index lines are styled with a para style. For example suppose I wanted to add "1" to each page number between 64 and 425 (because I want to insert a new page 64). Can this script do it, and if so what would I change in the various lines in the script editor?

A

Ackroyd   382

Alexandra   59

Allen Street Hooker  425

Ally’s Shrimp   348

Al’s Iceman   60

André’s Stone Fly   305

Arnold Weagle Special   62

Aurora Bearrealis   63

Austin’s Green   64

Autumn Flash   65

[Phil Frank]

Hi Paul,

 

Sorry you’re having so much trouble. I just took your sample below, brought it into a new document, and applied a character style to each number greater than 63. Then I ran the PriceAdjuster script that someone linked to earlier (can be found on Peter Kahrel’s site). No editing or changing the script—just run it. I had to enter something in only three fields: Operation (i.e., add, subtract, etc.), Operator (how much I wanted the numbers to increase by [in this case, just 1], and then the final field: Target character style. In that one I put the name of the character style I created for the purpose. Then I hit OK and off it went and gave the expected result.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Phil Frank

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[jctremblay]

I’m late in tho thread but this could be easy to do with a excel.csv file and the use of the Multi Find/Change plugin from Automatication.com. MF/C allow the use of a list of think to find/change. Easy to do... In case of number you need to do it in reverse. Higher number to lower one.

[Paul Marriner]

Hi Phil,

Thank you for the reply. I think what you're missing here is that I just gave a small sample from an index of more than 400 entries. Yes, if I wanted to insert a page after page 63, I could manually select each number greater than 63, apply a different character style and use Peter's script to increase them by one. Then, if I now wanted to insert a page after 125, rinse and repeat. Not much question I could have done that by now considering how long this thread has run. The goal is to be able to use a script to find all numbers larger than x then change x to x+1 without having to do anything to the original numbers.

Cheers,

Paul

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[Paul Marriner]

Merci, JC. The hope was to be able to do it within InDesign. Unfortunately this doesn't seem feasible, at least not easily, so if no one comes up with a solution I'll fall back on the kludge of adding a couple of pages after the last chapter, entitled "Bonus Patterns". Ugly but easy.

Paul

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[Jean-Claude Tremblay]

Paul, this is possible in InDesign. The Multi Find/Change plugin is only use to run a batch of F/C queries. It took a few minutes to figure it out and run it.

JC

On Sep 20, 2016, at 14:49, Paul Marriner <flyti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Merci, JC. The hope was to be able to do it within InDesign. Unfortunately this doesn't seem feasible, at least not easily, so if no one comes up with a solution I'll fall back on the kludge of adding a couple of pages after the last chapter, entitled "Bonus Patterns". Ugly but easy.

Paul

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[Paul Marriner]

J-C, it's a little expensive, especially with our dollar these days, but I appreciate your input.

Paul

[Jean-Claude Tremblay]

You have been having this discussion for two days now. Expensive? It all depends on how much you evaluate your time… ;)

JC

On Sep 20, 2016, at 15:35, Paul Marriner <flyti...@gmail.com> wrote:

J-C, it's a little expensive, especially with our dollar these days, but I appreciate your input.

Paul

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Jean-Claude Tremblay <tremb...@videotron.ca> wrote:

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[Paul Marriner]

Fortunately I'm long retired and simply repurposing print content into the digital world. Time is no longer evaluated...

Paul

[C F Majors]

What I reported works in Indesign. 

Use JCs find replace formula. 

Create a char style for the replaced part. 

Install the script I linked to, run it using the char style as your parameter. Tell it to Add 1. Make all changes a new color tony oh can check them. 

It's done. 

Carol Majors 

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