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Karl Rove under fire
By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 11/10/12 7:13 AM EST
Karl Rove is feeling the heat.
The face of the historic $1 billion plan to unseat President Barack
Obama and turn the Senate Republican, Rove now finds himself the leading
scapegoat for its failure. And he’s scrambling to protect his status as
a top GOP money man by convincing disappointed donors to his Crossroads
groups that he did the best he could with their $300 million.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvpnaXl6
Sources tell POLITICO that some donors have called Crossroads officials
to ask how their polling could have been so far off, while others are
openly grumbling that the groups should have spent more on the ground
game. Rival operatives — long frustrated by Rove’s dominance of big GOP
money — are seizing on the discontent, questioning whether he’s hurting
the cause and privately urging donors to shut him out.
During a secret Thursday afternoon conference call with his benefactors,
Rove laid out the analytics behind his assertions to donors that a
massive late-game advertising push would expand the electoral map into
Pennsylvania and deliver the White House and the Senate.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2Bvq0QdMn
The call was civil, focusing on questions like, “‘where was my strategy,
was it right, was it wrong? What did we find out that we didn’t know
before?’ That kind of thing — nothing negative, no recriminations or
blame,” said Minnesota media mogul Stan Hubbard.
Donors “weren’t saying anything like, ‘Hey, you dumb son of a b——,’”
added Hubbard, who has donated to both the Rove-conceived American
Crossroads super PAC and its secret-money nonprofit affiliate Crossroads
GPS. “It was all very businesslike. It was as if you were in a business
conference and you were a retailer and ‘why didn’t this product sell
better?’”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqEDShc
On the call, some donors even told Rove, “’I’m glad I gave to you. I
feel we made progress,’” recalled Hubbard. “Every quarterback, every
coach doesn’t call every play 100 percent right,” he added. “I don’t
know how you’re going to blame him. What are you going to blame Karl for?”
Others in conservative politics have been less forgiving.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqOUU8f
Richard Viguerie, a pioneering direct-mail consultant, called for
Republicans to purge from their ranks Rove and Ed Gillespie — who helped
found Crossroads and later moved over to Mitt Romney’s presidential
campaign — as well as Romney advisers Stuart Stevens and Neil Newhouse.
“In any logical universe,” he argued, “no one would give a dime to their
ineffective super PACs, such as American Crossroads.”
Rick Tyler, a former strategist for the pro-Newt Gingrich super PAC and
a top adviser to Todd Akin’s Missouri Senate campaign, called
Crossroads’ efforts “a colossal failure,” and asserted, “Rove has too
much control over the purse strings.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqblJ9H
Rove “has a lot of explaining to do, mostly to his donors. I don’t think
donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out
that the architect didn’t know what he was talking about,” Tyler told
the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Rove didn’t comment for this story, but Crossroads spokesman Jonathan
Collegio attributed the mounting conservative grumbling to jealousy, and
said the political world hasn’t heard the last of Rove or Crossroads.
“A lot of folks with very old axes to grind have hidden behind blind
quotes to take cheap shots against Karl in the last few days,” Collegio
told POLITICO in an email laying out main argument made by Rove and
Crossroads — that things would have been a lot worse for Republicans
without its ads.
“We’re dusting ourselves off, analyzing the data to figure out what went
wrong and charting a path forward,” he added. “As we’ve always said,
Crossroads is a permanent entity and will be back in 2014 and beyond —
with Karl Rove continuing in his role as adviser, providing invaluable
strategic vision and fundraising capability.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqoQSIx
There are 4 pages of this one online:
Rove “has a lot of explaining to do, mostly to his donors. I don’t think
donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out
that the architect didn’t know what he was talking about,” Tyler told
the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Rove didn’t comment for this story, but Crossroads spokesman Jonathan
Collegio attributed the mounting conservative grumbling to jealousy, and
said the political world hasn’t heard the last of Rove or Crossroads.
“A lot of folks with very old axes to grind have hidden behind blind
quotes to take cheap shots against Karl in the last few days,” Collegio
told POLITICO in an email laying out main argument made by Rove and
Crossroads — that things would have been a lot worse for Republicans
without its ads.
“We’re dusting ourselves off, analyzing the data to figure out what went
wrong and charting a path forward,” he added. “As we’ve always said,
Crossroads is a permanent entity and will be back in 2014 and beyond —
with Karl Rove continuing in his role as adviser, providing invaluable
strategic vision and fundraising capability.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqoQSIx
My prediction of this election came true. Republicans have more been
more aggressive with deposing Obama than any other Democrat in history.
Their aggressive nasty demeaner managed to alienate many voters away
from the Democrats yet in my opinion there were more who went
underground to stay away from those full of hatred. These are people who
have no interest in arguing with anyone least of all their friends.
These people kept their mouths shut and just voted...against
republicans. When you badmouth a political figure you run the risk of
alienating voters away from your candidate. They did this in the Clinton
elections. Most of the voters felt he was getting a bum deal so they
voted for him not against him. History repeated itself in this case with
Obama. The repugs are reluctant to take any blame for losing the
election as the fact remains that Obama didn't really win, Romney lost
and he did that with his own politicizing.
By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 11/10/12 7:13 AM EST
Karl Rove is feeling the heat.
The face of the historic $1 billion plan to unseat President Barack
Obama and turn the Senate Republican, Rove now finds himself the leading
scapegoat for its failure. And he’s scrambling to protect his status as
a top GOP money man by convincing disappointed donors to his Crossroads
groups that he did the best he could with their $300 million.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvpnaXl6
Sources tell POLITICO that some donors have called Crossroads officials
to ask how their polling could have been so far off, while others are
openly grumbling that the groups should have spent more on the ground
game. Rival operatives — long frustrated by Rove’s dominance of big GOP
money — are seizing on the discontent, questioning whether he’s hurting
the cause and privately urging donors to shut him out.
During a secret Thursday afternoon conference call with his benefactors,
Rove laid out the analytics behind his assertions to donors that a
massive late-game advertising push would expand the electoral map into
Pennsylvania and deliver the White House and the Senate.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2Bvq0QdMn
The call was civil, focusing on questions like, “‘where was my strategy,
was it right, was it wrong? What did we find out that we didn’t know
before?’ That kind of thing — nothing negative, no recriminations or
blame,” said Minnesota media mogul Stan Hubbard.
Donors “weren’t saying anything like, ‘Hey, you dumb son of a b——,’”
added Hubbard, who has donated to both the Rove-conceived American
Crossroads super PAC and its secret-money nonprofit affiliate Crossroads
GPS. “It was all very businesslike. It was as if you were in a business
conference and you were a retailer and ‘why didn’t this product sell
better?’”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqEDShc
On the call, some donors even told Rove, “’I’m glad I gave to you. I
feel we made progress,’” recalled Hubbard. “Every quarterback, every
coach doesn’t call every play 100 percent right,” he added. “I don’t
know how you’re going to blame him. What are you going to blame Karl for?”
Others in conservative politics have been less forgiving.
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqOUU8f
Richard Viguerie, a pioneering direct-mail consultant, called for
Republicans to purge from their ranks Rove and Ed Gillespie — who helped
found Crossroads and later moved over to Mitt Romney’s presidential
campaign — as well as Romney advisers Stuart Stevens and Neil Newhouse.
“In any logical universe,” he argued, “no one would give a dime to their
ineffective super PACs, such as American Crossroads.”
Rick Tyler, a former strategist for the pro-Newt Gingrich super PAC and
a top adviser to Todd Akin’s Missouri Senate campaign, called
Crossroads’ efforts “a colossal failure,” and asserted, “Rove has too
much control over the purse strings.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqblJ9H
Rove “has a lot of explaining to do, mostly to his donors. I don’t think
donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out
that the architect didn’t know what he was talking about,” Tyler told
the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Rove didn’t comment for this story, but Crossroads spokesman Jonathan
Collegio attributed the mounting conservative grumbling to jealousy, and
said the political world hasn’t heard the last of Rove or Crossroads.
“A lot of folks with very old axes to grind have hidden behind blind
quotes to take cheap shots against Karl in the last few days,” Collegio
told POLITICO in an email laying out main argument made by Rove and
Crossroads — that things would have been a lot worse for Republicans
without its ads.
“We’re dusting ourselves off, analyzing the data to figure out what went
wrong and charting a path forward,” he added. “As we’ve always said,
Crossroads is a permanent entity and will be back in 2014 and beyond —
with Karl Rove continuing in his role as adviser, providing invaluable
strategic vision and fundraising capability.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqoQSIx
There are 4 pages of this one online:
Rove “has a lot of explaining to do, mostly to his donors. I don’t think
donors are ever going to invest in that level again because it turns out
that the architect didn’t know what he was talking about,” Tyler told
the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Rove didn’t comment for this story, but Crossroads spokesman Jonathan
Collegio attributed the mounting conservative grumbling to jealousy, and
said the political world hasn’t heard the last of Rove or Crossroads.
“A lot of folks with very old axes to grind have hidden behind blind
quotes to take cheap shots against Karl in the last few days,” Collegio
told POLITICO in an email laying out main argument made by Rove and
Crossroads — that things would have been a lot worse for Republicans
without its ads.
“We’re dusting ourselves off, analyzing the data to figure out what went
wrong and charting a path forward,” he added. “As we’ve always said,
Crossroads is a permanent entity and will be back in 2014 and beyond —
with Karl Rove continuing in his role as adviser, providing invaluable
strategic vision and fundraising capability.”
Read more:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83658.html#ixzz2BvqoQSIx
My prediction of this election came true. Republicans have more been
more aggressive with deposing Obama than any other Democrat in history.
Their aggressive nasty demeaner managed to alienate many voters away
from the Democrats yet in my opinion there were more who went
underground to stay away from those full of hatred. These are people who
have no interest in arguing with anyone least of all their friends.
These people kept their mouths shut and just voted...against
republicans. When you badmouth a political figure you run the risk of
alienating voters away from your candidate. They did this in the Clinton
elections. Most of the voters felt he was getting a bum deal so they
voted for him not against him. History repeated itself in this case with
Obama. The repugs are reluctant to take any blame for losing the
election as the fact remains that Obama didn't really win, Romney lost
and he did that with his own politicizing.
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