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Phil

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Mar 22, 2010, 5:59:19 PM3/22/10
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Hello mates,

question 1 - does 51x branch includes automatically all patches
allready included in 50x branch ? In other words, if I use 51x, will
it be always the most up2date?

question 2 - what is the best place to download 503bx ?

thanks!
Phil.

Alexander Obuhovich

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Mar 22, 2010, 6:04:06 PM3/22/10
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1 - when bugfix release is released, then it is manually merged to current feature branch (e.g. when 5.0.3-B1 will be released, then I will merge it to 5.1.x branch)

2 - best way is always checkout. command is:

svn --username=guest co svn://source.in-portal.org/profiles/in-portal.community/releases/5.0.3-B1 in-portal.503B1


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Mar 22, 2010, 6:16:31 PM3/22/10
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thanks !

2010/3/22 Alexander Obuhovich <aik....@gmail.com>:

Dmitry Andrejev

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Mar 22, 2010, 11:43:08 PM3/22/10
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Hi Phil,


I have an idea - why don't you put list of questions about what's not clear to you (or not well address) on these pages:




The reason why I am asking is that they have all critical information and important for us to know if users misinterpret something.


Cheers

DA.

Alexander Obuhovich

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Mar 23, 2010, 4:41:19 AM3/23/10
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Nice page, but I've added a large anchor to page bottom where svn commands are. This way they will be more visible.

Phil ..:: domicilis.biz ::..

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Mar 23, 2010, 5:43:46 AM3/23/10
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Hi Dmitry

Everything on theses pages are clear, and there different kind of
people into Inportal community:

1 - developpers (web agency, freelance coders...)
2 - designers (who can be able to transform they own design into powerfull CMS)
3 - website owners (who generally knows a bit of HTML and sometime,
very rarely, a bit of CSS)

On the page research-development.html

All info are presented in a logical process, but they mix general
content information (Releases Life-Cycle, discussion and
communication), along with very specific info (versionning, patching)
that will be understoud only by the first type of users as I listed.
In other word, the content of the page is very interesting for
developpers, somewhat interesting for designers, and not very
interesting for website owners. But as per my experience, people who
are able to give a real feedback on usability and bugs are these end
users, that's why I discussed about another way to let them easily
download beta release (please look around, all other open source
software are proposing beta and RC as direct, complete download).

The page about code repository is clearly for first category of users,
and thus I have nothing to say, it's perfect.

I give you all this opinion as I'm a 3rd category user who jumped to
1st one, and I'm actually doing a partnership with a designer, in a
goal of selling websites, that's why I permit myself to talk for each
of them.

Why not posting a poll, on these pages? I'm exactly as old as Jesus,
but I could mistake sometime :-)

Waiting to read your opinions.
Phil.

2010/3/23 Alexander Obuhovich <aik....@gmail.com>:

Alexander Obuhovich

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Mar 23, 2010, 5:51:17 AM3/23/10
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We have http://www.in-portal.com/download.html for quick downloads. Click on "More Files ..." to access all previous versions. Sadly, but we don't have profiles there for download. And here is the page for theme downloads http://www.in-portal.com/support-downloads/themes.html

Phil ..:: domicilis.biz ::..

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Mar 23, 2010, 6:22:51 AM3/23/10
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I know the download pages, but it's more interesting to download new
versions rather than previous ones ;-)

I just take example of all other open sources soft I know and use,
from postgresql to python...

2010/3/23 Alexander Obuhovich <aik....@gmail.com>:

Alexander Obuhovich

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Mar 23, 2010, 6:32:04 AM3/23/10
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So you mean to download 5.0.x and 5.1.x development branch snapshots. Of course understand, that we can't create new snapshot by hand after performing each commit. That's why we have ideas about creating automated snap shot system, where all branches of development will be automatically be available as downloadable archives. The only different will be, that version will contain snapshot date, like "in-link_5_0_x_2010-02-15.zip".

Phil ..:: domicilis.biz ::..

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:33:31 AM3/23/10
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that it, being able to DL the most updated version could be bad, don't
you think so?


2010/3/23 Alexander Obuhovich <aik....@gmail.com>:

Alexander Obuhovich

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:36:05 AM3/23/10
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I'm not saying it's bad, but we have more pressing matters to attend to right now and limited resources.

Phil ..:: domicilis.biz ::..

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Mar 23, 2010, 7:58:52 AM3/23/10
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yes, no problem, I'm just proposing all my ideas and thought when they come.

2010/3/23 Alexander Obuhovich <aik....@gmail.com>:

Dmitry Andrejev

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Mar 23, 2010, 12:03:12 PM3/23/10
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Hi Phil,

Your ideas are good and options was heard.

We'll be addressing this in the order it was received.

While we are well prepared for 1st category (programmers). There is a way for you to help us more to get 2nd and3rd types of users to the site is when we have MORE and BETTER front-end theme. We do won't on them too, but again if we stitch fully to theme - you'll no bug features soon. By the way, you can do plain HTML and we'll do integration if you will.

DA.

Phil ..:: domicilis.biz ::..

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Mar 23, 2010, 6:17:13 PM3/23/10
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Hi Dmitry,

I'm happy to read you agree with this detailed analysis of our audience.

About themes, I thought it would be usefull from me only if they are ready to install, otherwise templatemonster have ten thousand themes allready in HTML... and I think personnally there's 1% of very good ones, which is anyway a lot of possibilities

Anyway I'd like to bring you my own themes, I'm just trying to finish my actual contracts first :)

Phil.

2010/3/23 Dmitry Andrejev <dand...@gmail.com>

Dmitry Andrejev

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Mar 23, 2010, 6:19:32 PM3/23/10
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Sounds good, please post in Designs and interfaces about new themes when you have them.

DA.
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