Sintel, Open Movie produced by Blender Foundation after Elephants Dream & Big Buck Bunny is released.
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2010/10/1 Mahesh Mohan <maheshmohan.mu@gmail.com>Sintel, Open Movie produced by Blender Foundation after Elephants Dream & Big Buck Bunny is released.
How about we making one in Malayalam? http://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?7616
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> How about we making one in Malayalam? http://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?7616
I can contribute to this. Let us identify a good story. I suggest we
take one from the rich mythology of Kerala. Could be a story from
Aithihyamala (ഐതിഹ്യമാല). It could be dubbed into other languages also.
What about one of the stories from Paraypetta panthirukulam - say, some
part of Naranathu bhranthan or Perumthachan? Or, maybe, from
Panchatantram? Let us start it and call for participation.
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On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:32 +0530, Praveen A wrote:I can contribute to this. Let us identify a good story. I suggest we
> How about we making one in Malayalam? http://savannah.nongnu.org/task/?7616
take one from the rich mythology of Kerala. Could be a story from
Aithihyamala (ഐതിഹ്യമാല). It could be dubbed into other languages also.
What about one of the stories from Paraypetta panthirukulam - say, some
part of Naranathu bhranthan or Perumthachan? Or, maybe, from
Panchatantram? Let us start it and call for participation.
Yes. Since we already have a wiki, we can start on the storyboard also.
But first let us decide what the story should be based on. What about a
nice Panchathanthram story? Let us get suggestions.
Yes. Since we already have a wiki, we can start on the storyboard also.
But first let us decide what the story should be based on. What about a
nice Panchathanthram story? Let us get suggestions.
> My personal favorite is Aitehyamala (because I like scary/fairy stuff) & I
> think it needs more popularization than Panchathantra. Panchathantra is
> almost popular all over India and also in certain foreign countries. I've
> seen a lot of animated series based on panchathantra stories. But
> Aitehyamala is not that popular & I don't think any initiative has been made
> to film it (unless you count certain TV channels adopting its essence &
> manipulate it to fill their serials). So I think we can adopt a story from
> Aitehyamala, such that it will stand out.
I fully agree with you. Panchathanthra stories have been the basis for
many films, while Aithihyamala has not got much exposure. I would
particularly like something like Naranathu Bhranthan.
> But I recommend Panchathantra as a start.It will be easier to make a
> storyboard out of it..
> plus, creating animals will be more easy than humans & illusions, right?
> Let's have a look at Panchathantra stories & find something fit. We can save
> Aitehyamala for next time...
I am told that is not the case. The complexity depends on the extent
of detail you want. Thus, if you want good detail in the texture and
movement, it wouldn't make much difference whether the characters are
animal or human.
Best
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I saw it... Good one...Hope big ones will come soon...
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We should start talking to some institutions who can host this movie.
There should be a place to meet, computers for working etc. If we can
find some organizations to support financially, that would enable us
to support members working on the project. Blender foundation has been
able to raise money for the project. But I think we have to come up
with a good plan first. If we have a good plan, we can even raise
money by donations.
Yes, the first thing is to find a good story, prepare a story board and
the characters with some voluntary help and then call for donations and
volunteers to build the movie. I think we can get assistance from the
Blender Foundation. One person who is trained in 3D animation has
volunteered help. Let us think about a story first. I have been thinking
of one of the stories from Parayi petta panthirukulam. Naranathu
bhranthan's story, especially the one in which he meets the chodala
yakshi would be interesting, I think.
Best
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Yes, the first thing is to find a good story, prepare a story board and
the characters with some voluntary help and then call for donations and
volunteers to build the movie. I think we can get assistance from the
Blender Foundation. One person who is trained in 3D animation has
volunteered help. Let us think about a story first. I have been thinking
of one of the stories from Parayi petta panthirukulam. Naranathu
bhranthan's story, especially the one in which he meets the chodala
yakshi would be interesting, I think.
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> Can we discuss about it in detail in this months meeting?
> Is the venue fixed?
I don't remember whether it has been fixed. If I am here, I can come and
we can discuss.
> Does we have people who knows blender well ? how many we have ?
It is not a question of knowing Blender, it is a question of knowing to
do 3D animation. A person who knows that can learn Blender without much
difficulty. We won't have many, but I think we can get a few people to
help. And we can cut down on details to speed it up.
> 2) does we have the studio facility for rendering, and sound recording ?
Rendering can be handled. I am exploring the possibility of getting it
done. I am reasonably certain that we can get it done without much
trouble.
Thanks for the detailed write-up. You are the third person with
animation skills to volunteer for this work. That is good.
I am not taking rendering lightly. I don't want to give details before I
can confirm, but believe me, it should be possible to get rendering
done. What does, for example, a 40-machine farm sound like?
I am not trained in animation, so I don't know the details. But I
understand much of what you are saying. We will need several people to
get this done - it is ambitious, I admit. But let us try. It is better
to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all. I am reasonably
confident of getting support in different ways. SPACE can probably take
a lead too. Let us see.
Sintel was rendered on 16 intel
i7-930 nodes with 6 GB each (and more in the end) while Elephants
dream was rendered on nearly 600 servers. I had tried to render one of
my Blender animations on my system (4gb RAM, Phenom x2 at 3.1ghz on
64bit Linux Mint) and it took around ~43 minutes per frame (a total of
424 frames). It was with Ambient occlusion at Additive phase, 2x
Motion Blur, a handful of composite nodes, Ray traced shadows and 4x
subdivision at a mere 960x480 to MOV (meaning, its pretty much low
quality, at maximum optimization). I never completed rendering it. Its
no joke, believe me. Forget about the final rendering, even test
renders will be a time consuming and tedious job if not given the
proper resources. Just imagine rendering at 4k.
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I don't want to commit now. That is why I said that I am reasonably
confident that rendering can be done. I will give details when I know
what we will have. And thanks for volunteering. We are just at the very
beginning of implementing it. In fact, we have just put the idea before
people. There remains a lot of organising to be done before we can start
working on it.
Lets start with a code name and we can use fosscommunity.in wiki. I
prefer some stories not related to any religion (ഐതിഹ്യമാലയ്ക്കു് ആ
പ്രശ്നമുണ്ടു്)
so next steps,
1. code name - I suggest ചാമ്പ (blender foundation traditionally give
fruit names)
2. wiki page
3. story
Once we have these, we can ask organisations to host it and seek donations.
and story..
what about Esope stories>???
they arent religious..
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ചുറ്റിപ്പറ്റി ഒരു കഥയാണെങ്കില് നല്ലതായിരിക്കുമെന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു.
> 2) does we have the studio facility for rendering, and sound recording ?
I hope for rendering we can use facilities available in varies
engineering colleges in kerala. The key problem might be in sound
recording/dubbing etc.
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> and story..
>
Didn't get any venue till now. It is supposed to be on tomorrow. There
where only three people for last month meeting.
> Didn't get any venue till now. It is supposed to be on tomorrow. There
> where only three people for last month meeting.
When do you want the meeting? We can explore the possibility of
conducting in SPACE.
That was really a must read, thanks for sharing. There is something to
learn in failures as well, many freedom fighters did not see India
liberated in their life time, but they fought anyway because they knew
they had to.
We can follow many guidelines given in this blog. Lets decide about
director, team leaders etc in a meeting.
So we have a wiki page now
http://www.fosscommunity.in/wiki/Chamba
Help me summarize the discussions we had till now in the wiki.
How about meeting at foss.in?
Lets find out someone in the group who actually wants to make an
animated movie, not because she/he is excited about community
contributions, nut because she/he is excited about making an animated
movie.
Is there anyone here ? Someone who absolutely wants to tell a story
through a movie ?
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it becomes easy to know how many people are there in the group and also
add people who may not want to get all FSUG mails. What do you think?
Best
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I am volunteering for this. I will start with a mailing list and then
find some time to focus on this.
> 2) Director (1) - Should have complete dictatorial control over every
> aspect of the film. Ofcourse, this is after a certain possible votes
> can be taken over film elements. But this is mainly to avoid
> inconsistent stylization of the movie and chaos over several peoples
> likes and dislies. He should know, or have a solid idea on
> everything that takes to make a motion picture, from software, to
> techniques.
I think Milad should direct it.
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are to be shared and distributed. Hopefully help the volunteers with
troubleshooting too :) This will still depend on where and how the
movie is to be made though
> Yes Sasi Sir, I think its a great idea. But won't it detract from
> gaining more viewers who are new to ILUG Groups? So other than
> existing users, will newer people know of it?
You have a point there. But, possibly, we could overcome that by doing
some kind of periodic reporting to the FSUG list - say, once a month. I
think that is necessary because the members should be kept informed of
the progress. We could put everything in a wiki too. The discussions
could be done there. I am not sure which is the best way. What do the
others think?
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On 10/25/10, Milad <agen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm reverting my attention and focus back to my personal project. Its
> been nice talking with all of you.
>
Milad,
Your contributions to the discussions were really important. It is
kind of hard to chose between projects you really like. Now its even
more challenging, but we will continue this effort. Personally, I see
the effort of producing a movie in way we want movies to be produced
is more motivating than the movie itself. As a coordinator for this
project, I need to put more effort and time to this project.
Folks, we are still on this project. Today I was thinking about
advocating this project as a people's effort to produce a movie by
involving common people in movie making.
Cheers
Praveen
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Milad,
Give me some more time to boot this up. This is not something we have
done earlier. But the potential of this project is enormous, so we
have to do it.
My immediate idea is to setup the project website and have a pretty
good narrative of what we are going to do and what are the things we
would like to achieve from this project - not just the end product.
(If anyone would like to help with the website please reply).
I look at this project as an opportunity to reach out to maximum
number of people to spread the message of free culture - a culture of
sharing a collaboration. It is not just about a movie project, but a
completely new way of collaborating to create things in commons (Free
Software and wikipedia have evolved models for similar ideas and this
is our turn to find out a sustainable model for movie making).
We definitely need some people to work on it full time and we need to
raise funds for that. So as a parallel step to website can you come up
with an initial estimate of how much money we would need? (Others who
have got ideas about these kind of estimates, please help Milad). Once
we have an initial estimate we can start grass root fund collection
drive. I believe campuses and user groups will have a great role to
play. I will start with some of the campuses here in Pune where I have
access as a pilot and see how feasible the idea is. We could show Sita
Sings the Blues, Elephants Dream, Sintel, Yes Men and other Free
movies and ask people to contribute. Another idea I have is to sell
DVDs/VCDs of these movies to generate some money. That kind of
involvement in help fund the project is also an important contribution
and I believe we can get some volunteers for that. We could approach
some organisations (even Blender foundation itself) also for funding.
Even if we don't get anywhere with this particular project, we would
still be spreading message of Free Culture and getting people involved
in Free Culture movement. Even if we fail, we would be learning
lessons for future projects. When we learn to ride a bicycle we fall
so many times, so lets not be afraid of falling and just learn to
ride. I know if feels good to talk and write but making it a reality
would take a great effort. But we have to start somewhere.
We can start the content part when we reach a certain percentage of
our estimate. That way no one has to make tough choices based on just
a whacky idea.
We will split the team into logistics support and creative team.
Logistic support would take care of raising money and other technical
details. Creative team will have complete freedom with the content of
the project.
So I will have the website ready by Monday and we will take the
project from there.
Milad, how much time you would need to come up with an initial
estimate for the project?
Also I don't want to pull you into this project unless we are sure of
the resources and you have to compromise your personal project. So you
give us the estimate and we will call you once we are confident about
getting the resources (we raise a certain percentage of the estimate).
> We have the website ready http://www.chambaproject.in (We can setup a
> wiki and a list too)
Good beginning. We need a list. As I said earlier, there are a few
people who may contribute, but they may not want to receive all the
mails from this list.
Why don't we call it 'Swathanthra Malayalam Cinema"? We may eventually
find people who are willing to do a regular feature film that can be
Free (as in freedom). I would certainly like to be involved in such a
film.
2010/11/8 V. Sasi Kumar <sasi...@gmail.com>:
> Good beginning. We need a list. As I said earlier, there are a few
> people who may contribute, but they may not want to receive all the
> mails from this list.
I created two lists, lets not mix creative aspects with logistics.
I also setup the project wiki. See
http://www.chambaproject.in/contribute/ for links.
How do we accept online donations - paypal individual account is one
option (I think they don't allow organization accounts from India). I
remember FSF India has setup an online system (fsf.org.in and
gnu.org.in seems to be down at the moment) to accept financial
contributions. Can we use that channel? Any other ideas?
Also please create an account on this wordpress instance and write
about your ideas and expectations.
> Why don't we call it 'Swathanthra Malayalam Cinema"? We may eventually
> find people who are willing to do a regular feature film that can be
> Free (as in freedom). I would certainly like to be involved in such a
> film.
IMHO, Cinema, especially animation, need not be restricted to
Malayalam, at least for now. If we generate sufficient interest, we
can think about separate Malayalam group.
> How do we accept online donations - paypal individual account is one
> option (I think they don't allow organization accounts from India). I
> remember FSF India has setup an online system (fsf.org.in and
> gnu.org.in seems to be down at the moment) to accept financial
> contributions. Can we use that channel? Any other ideas?
Let me see whether SPACE can do the job of collecting money and
maintaining accounts. I will have to discuss this with our people here.
Shall get back soon.
> IMHO, Cinema, especially animation, need not be restricted to
> Malayalam, at least for now. If we generate sufficient interest, we
> can think about separate Malayalam group.
OK, fine.
I am replying to the FSUG list because this thread is there. New threads
can be confined to the operations list, I guess.
Just enter your email address, pick a password and click on subscribe at
http://lists.chambaproject.in/listinfo.cgi/creativeteam-chambaproject.in
Let me know if you still have problem, I can add you directly.
Some people are comfortable with email and some other with web
interface. For discussion/free flow conversation mailing list seems
better, but for future references/archives or for specific
tasks/queries forum might be better. We can have a forum also for
specific tasks like script selection.
Thanks
Praveen
We will move this entire thread to chamba list.
2010/11/9 OmV <opva...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Guys,
> Just landed on board. Nice to see so much initiatives happening on
> this.
> I can help on screen play and storyboard , Happy to brush with
> blender :) but blending skills are so minimal 0.1 .
Ok, so you can lead screenplay and storyboard part. If anyone else
wants to chip in this team, jump!
> Suggestion
> 1. Stories from Indian epics said the same way as it is, seems like
> watching Sholay with Hrithik Roshan [extra muscles added to veer]
> nothing much other than that. {no hurt feelings on HR fans}.Let us
> bring in something that captures essence of time+love+passion+emotion
> +adventure = could be an episode.
> The Sintel story is much of an episode , where Sintel meets its Dragon
> after 20 long years but unable to identify and kills it where emotion
> drags in.
> Why don't we go ahead with a theme sending a message "What ever we are
> searching for, is with in us"
> rising from vulnerability , something similar to transformation of
> Bruce wayne from his fear of bat to batman,a theme which makes rocky
> balboa,a theme within peaceful warrior
Looks great, lets take it to the next step. Expand and make it a story.
> 2.Let us divide people into teams , fix a time line for storyboard and
> stick with it, post it to community and then signoff with members.
Ok, now that you are leading this part and you know pretty well about
story board and suggest a deadline.
> Code freez the storyboard and once thaz done , why don't we move ahead
> with Blending them.There are studios in Trivandrum where we can do
> sound recording cheap and high cost . [experience in assisting with
> band "Taalam" :) ]
Your experience would be really a great addition to the team.
> 3.Team meeting @ TVM can be done at open spaces most favorable with a
> Laptop. We would just need to share ideas . [Kanakakunnu]
Suggest a date for this meeting. Someone take minutes and those us
away from TVM can chip in later with comments.
> "IF I AM PITCHING ON THE RIGHT NOTE PLEASE PULL ME IN " else let me
> know the wind is not hard enough for the wind chimes ;) . I would love
> to watch and learn :)
I like the spirit.
> Thanks,
> Om Varma
> TVM
> I woke up from a 27 year old dream couple of days back and realized ;
> thinking isn't, enough we should apply .
>
yes, indeed, there were lot of great thoughts lost, because we did not apply.
Cheers
Praveen
Camera + Action = Click....
It is the brightest light that you have ever seen on earth , it blinds
you as it hits straight on ur eyes. Despite curiosity u rub of ur
pupils and open the shuttered eye lids . The light seems to fade away
slowly letting you to a blurred vision of a foggy morning .
Its a hanging bridge that you can see far away. It was steepest bridge
that leads to the cliff that i could see on the left side.[cliff looks
so attractive like something similar to Pandora , floresent flowers
and shining waterfalls]. Wonder what they have on the middle of the
bridge . a home build of bamaboo. The Architecture resembled something
as that of the Tigers Den (Bhutan).On the steeper side of the bridge I
could see Vultures Circling , Bats handing down the corner.A half
burned banyan tree still emits black smoke accompanied by dark clouds
above it.......
Thats all i figured out o the script for the time being.... Please add
on ur imaginations to it after all , its open source , your code with
mine ;) just import it import.omV.imagination.*
Story was developed based on the below theme ...
If tiger kills at will we don't consider it wrong . if an animal
choses its mate by violent means we don't consider this as unnatural
bcos they have no code of conduct.So one end of the spectrum we have
Animal instinct and on the other end we have God. there are no right
and wrong in the animal stage and we don't question Gods Actions
either(May it be a calamity or a change in the Tyrannosaurus era)
Man is in between these two states He is neither an animal whose
conduct is not questioned , nor is he God whose conduct is not
questioned. He has his home build right in the middle of the
bridge.Its his choice to choose between the two . Out of his concision
he will have strive towards higher spiritual realization , or he could
easily slide towards the Jungle for being the animal instinct in him
. Or he could stay home , may be most of us have moved so far away on
either of these directions and until a time comes we realize and
become alert that how far we are away from our home(human state).At
that moment he would realize that the decision we takes, should be
merely on our own concsiouness and only we are responsible for the
outcomes.
Life- its all about the way you think ..
OmV
2010/11/12 OM PRAKASH VARMA <opva...@gmail.com>:
Looks exciting! I would also think it is better to have our own
original story. So continue working on this theme, and hope others
will join in as well.