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inkle...@eteisp.com

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Jan 2, 2006, 9:04:50 PM1/2/06
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What is it for?

Jim L via the eCS 1.15 version of OS/2

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Gorby

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Jan 2, 2006, 10:06:47 PM1/2/06
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inkle...@ETEisp.com wrote:
> What is it for?
>
> Jim L via the eCS 1.15 version of OS/2
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Wanna talk about IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad laptops?
This is the place!

inkle...@eteisp.com

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Jan 2, 2006, 11:51:31 PM1/2/06
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Gorby <Go...@OldRussian.empire.net> said:

So older TP's are OT? I've asked ThinkPad 770E questions and got
nothing. The last was, what modem and NIC is reliable? (There is no
integrated modem and, of course, no integrated NIC.) My Intel combo
card is constant trouble.

Here's a slightly more modern question. Where in the TP lineup would be
a TP that's really a waste for Win98SE? The latter is effective for me,
but the 770 is slow.

Jim L via the eCS 1.15 version of OS/2

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GomJabbar

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Jan 3, 2006, 7:45:39 AM1/3/06
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Older ThinkPads are not OT, but don't expect too many replies when most
everyone has moved on.....

I am surprised that there are some that actually like Win 98. W2K and
XP are so much better. I've used W2K on a ThinkPad 600E (which
originally came with Win 98), and it worked quite well. I've read of
others that have happily run XP on a 600E.

My guess would be that anything newer than a 600 should run W2K or XP.
Even with the 600, W2K or XP would probably not be out of the question.
Note there is the 600, 600E, and 600X (in order of increasing power).
If your computing needs are low, I would get one of the above three
models (which have a number of submodels). They were and are still are
very popular. Their only real drawbacks are their increasing age, and
less-than-stellar battery life. Design and keyboards are among the
best.

John Doue

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Jan 3, 2006, 9:56:00 AM1/3/06
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GomJabbar wrote:

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> I am surprised that there are some that actually like Win 98. W2K and
> XP are so much better.

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Although I have discontinued using Win98 (still installed on one
machine), I can very well see why some users feel no need to follow MS
money trail. Here are some points:

-some hardware stops working when you leave Win98. For example, not
everybody is too happy about buying a new printer because some
manufacturers, including HP, are to stingy to write drivers. Of course,
this implies you do not want to install the latest hardware either.
-as long as you feel no need to install a software that is not
compatible with Win98, and to give up computing power to fancy things
you do not need (compare the impact on computing power of Word 97 and
Word 2003, and see which version is more stable ..., just an example),
staying with Win98 maximizes the power available for real computing.
-The stability advantage of Win2K and XP compared to a well used and
maintained 98SE system is quite minimal and does not in itself warrant
to move up.

Personally, I professionally cannot afford to stay behing the curve and
need to be a few steps ahead of my customers. But this is not
everybody's case.
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John Doue

inkle...@eteisp.com

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Jan 3, 2006, 11:42:15 AM1/3/06
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"GomJabbar" <dkba...@earthlink.net> said:

>I am surprised that there are some that actually like Win 98. W2K and
>XP are so much better.

Better for what?

>My guess would be that anything newer than a 600 should run W2K or XP.

I'm not even slightly interested in hot/new. I rarely use the laptop,
but when I do 98 gets the job done. What more should I want?
Superbloat does absolutely nothing for me (altho it could empty my
pockets).

>Even with the 600, W2K or XP would probably not be out of the question.

My priority, as posted, is speed over the latest thing out (while your
suggestions are the reverse). XP on a slow machine? Even the 600X has
only double what I have (when 10 times the speed is on the market) and a
screen smaller than what I have.

GomJabbar

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Jan 3, 2006, 6:38:58 PM1/3/06
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Yeah, I saw your post on 'the other forum'. GOOD LUCK.

Gary L.

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Jan 4, 2006, 12:49:35 AM1/4/06
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:51:31 -0500, inkle...@ETEisp.com wrote:


>So older TP's are OT? I've asked ThinkPad 770E questions and got
>nothing. The last was, what modem and NIC is reliable? (There is no
>integrated modem and, of course, no integrated NIC.) My Intel combo
>card is constant trouble.

>Jim L via the eCS 1.15 version of OS/2

I saw your post regarding the NIC for an older ThinkPad. I was going
to recommend a LinkSys combo card that I used for a while with my old
701. It worked well under Windows 95 and was quite stable and
reliable. I don't know whether they are still available. But I do know
that they don't have OS/2 drivers so I didn't think you would be
interested.

Some times you don't get a response simply because no one has an
answer to your question.

* * Chas

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Jan 4, 2006, 4:31:54 AM1/4/06
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<inkle...@ETEisp.com> wrote in message
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XP works much better with wireless and WiFi connections. Aside from
that, I prefer Win98SE especially when I'm traveling because I can fix
most problems very easily.

When any NT family OS hangs it can take more than 5 minutes for a system
to recover whereas with 98 I can do a 3 finger and be back up and
working again in 3 minutes or less.

I have just about every version of NT from 3.1 to 2003 and I had all of
them crash at one time or another.

I have Win98SE and XP dual booting on my modified T20. I tried to run
Win98SE on my X31 but I couldn't get some of the drivers to install so I
gave up on the project. What I did have running was a lot faster than
XP.

Chas.


inkle...@eteisp.com

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Jan 4, 2006, 12:23:22 PM1/4/06
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Gary L. <nos...@sbcglobal.net> said:

>I saw your post regarding the NIC for an older ThinkPad. I was going to
>recommend a LinkSys combo card that I used for a while with my old 701.
>It worked well under Windows 95 and was quite stable and reliable. I
>don't know whether they are still available. But I do know that they
>don't have OS/2 drivers so I didn't think you would be interested.

My 770E runs Win 98.

Jim L via the eCS 1.15 version of OS/2

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Gary L.

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Jan 4, 2006, 6:45:32 PM1/4/06
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Then what you want is the Linksys PCMLM56 Combo NIC and 56K Modem for
the 16 bit PCMCIA (PC Card) slot. I had one and it was reliable and
trouble-free. Here's a link to the product info:

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1117662378718&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

inkle...@eteisp.com

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Jan 4, 2006, 8:59:33 PM1/4/06
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Gary L. <nos...@sbcglobal.net> said:

>Then what you want is the Linksys PCMLM56

Looks good, but hard to find. Thanks.

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