Irish tunes

[Barbara Currier]

Hi, folks,

Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?

No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.

All the Best,

Barbara

[Augusto de Ornellas Abreu]

Irish tunes are a little tricky to play on the HG, because of the scales, arpeggios and other things that complicate the fingering... Not to mention the breakneck pace many of them are played at, totally difficult to do on a HG...

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[Felicia Dale]

March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow march.  Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well.  William and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice pairing. 

Have fun!

Felicia.

[Barbara Currier]

That would be why I can't just pop in and play all the things I play on the harp and whistle and play my bodhran under and why I'm asking what people have tried and like playing.

:^)

Barbara

[Felicia Dale]

I agree, which is one reason why I suggested a slow march rather than a reel or a jig.  Though jigs and reels can be really lovely if they're played slowly and then the arpeggios and such are a little more approachable.  Not easy but approachable.  :)

Felicia.

[Felicia Dale]

An air would be interesting, too.  I play "The Girl With the Dark Hair" and "She Moved Through the Faire" followed by a Breton tune (sorry I don't know the name) and "Watson" by John Peekstok after it as well.  "Watson" isn't even remotely Irish sounding but it kicks ass and people generally really like it.

Felicia.

[Barbara Currier]

Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of notes. I'll give this one a try.

Barbara

[Ulrich Joosten]

Hey everybody,

I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth to try.

Cheers,
Uli


Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbara...@gmail.com>:

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[gurdymaker]

Hi Barbara

Firstly, you need to get hold of a D/G hurdy-gurdy as that's where the
notes are for most of the Irish repertoire.

I have recorded a couple of dozen Irish tunes with a D/G instrument
just to see if I could and they very different to than French tunes.
I won't say harder because to play both styles require far more input
than just playing the notes. French playing generally needs more in
the way of grace notes and ornaments .

More information can be found here:

http://www.hurdy-gurdy.org.uk/irish.html

Cheers

Neil

[Andy Carter]

I do mainly song tunes but Planxty Fanny Power is a favourite of mine. Wind That Shakes The Barley works as a sad air I find. Belle Of Belfast City (Tell Me Ma) will get people clapping on any instrument. She Moves Through The Fair as already mentioned. Las Vegas In The Hills Of Donnegal followed by Botany Bay works. Rising Of The Moon, Night Visiting Song, Fields Of Athenry all work... Happy St. Patrick's Day! Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Currier
Sent: 3/16/2010 5:13:06 AM
To: hurdy...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HG-new] Irish tunes
Hi, folks,

Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?

No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.

All the Best,

Barbara

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[Arle Lommel]

Although it's not traditional but rather new-Celtic, Mary Fahl's Going Home (NOT the Dvořak piece, but rather the opening track from the movie Gods and Generals) is very effective. In the movie it is played on fiddle and uillean pipe, but it works well, I've found, to start it on a single chanterelle and add a second one for the second verse and a third (I have a G g g tuning) on the first refrain, and then add the low C drone for the third verse and bring in the low G drone for the second refrain. I usually round it out with The Water is Wide.

Carrickfergus also works well on HG, although your instrument will have to be in good order since Carrickfergus will use the upper range and can sound bad on an instrument if the upper range is off.

-Arle

[Colin]

Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it.

I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.

 

Colin Hill

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[Ulrich Joosten]

Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog.  I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy.
What’s the opinion out there?

Best regards,
Uli


Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c....@virgin.net>:

[Augusto de Ornellas Abreu]

Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their instruments...

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[Sergio F. Ribnikov]

I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the knarr.  Ulrich, I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in Lure/valramn or Faun, for example  cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or http://www.haraldpettersson.se; ), maybe that would change your opinion about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!

 

No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my friend! :)

 

cheers,
Sergio.

 

 

 

 

2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto....@gmail.com>

[Augusto de Ornellas Abreu]

Sergio

I wouldn't mention Faun as an example of HG music...

I love their music, but...

on almost if not all tunes where you see the pretty lady playing the HG, she is only holding it and turning the crank, playing open strings and drones, not a melody at all...

If you're gonna use a gurdy, at least use the freaking keys...

[Sergio F. Ribnikov]

Hi Augusto,

 

sorry, my friend.  that was a typo.. I was talking about Harald´s bands.  Where I wrote FAUN it should have read RAUN.

http://www.cdroots.com/cda-drone36.html

 

With regard to Faun, I share your view.  That is indeed a pretty lady :)

cheers!

Sergio

[Ulrich Joosten]

Sergio,

I was not clear in my mail. I certaily believe that there are megatons of scandianvian tunes that really must have a trumpet. Just these specific Scandinavial tunes I was talking about are better played (in just my opinion) like e.g. some Carolan tunes without chien. I was not talking about Scandinavian tunes in general – I have some, but only limited knowledge about Scandinavian music so I would never do such a judgement ;-)

Anyway thanks a lot for your hint – I’ll go following it.

Cheers,
Uli


Am 16.03.10 14:22 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter <ribnikov....@gmail.com>:

I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the knarr.  Ulrich, I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in Lure/valramn or Faun, for example  cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or http://www.haraldpettersson.se <http://www.haraldpettersson.se/> ; ), maybe that would change your opinion about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!

 
No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my friend! :)
 
cheers,
Sergio.
 
 
 


 
2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto....@gmail.com>

Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their instruments...


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten <ulrich....@t-online.de> wrote:

Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog.  I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy.
What’s the opinion out there?

Best regards,
Uli

Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c....@virgin.net <http://c....@virgin.net> >:

Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it.
I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.

Colin Hill

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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28  AM
 
Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
 

Hey everybody,

I love to play Planxty Irwin by  O’Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty’s version featuring Andy  Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to  play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving  down the scale. Could be worth to try.

Cheers,
Uli

Am  16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbara...@gmail.com <http://barbara...@gmail.com> >:

 

Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's  March, but I ran out of notes. I'll give this one a  try.

Barbara

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale  <cruiks...@pintndale.com <http://cruiks...@pintndale.com> >  wrote:
 

March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to  play and a lovely slow march.  Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is  a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well.  William  and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice  pairing.

Have  fun!

Felicia.

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[Sergio F. Ribnikov]

I see, Ulrich. Well,  I´m intrigued now. Which scandinavian tune would these be?  do you know the names?

 

 

Well, at any rate, I´m happy I triggered my fellows´ curiosity!  Herr Pettersson is really talented.

 

cheers mate!
Sergio

2010/3/16 Ulrich Joosten <ulrich....@t-online.de>

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[Ulrich Joosten]

Sergio and all,

I attach 2 png of the dots. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Uli


Am 16.03.10 15:19 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter <ribnikov....@gmail.com>:

I see, Ulrich. Well,  I´m intrigued now. Which scandinavian tune would these be?  do you know the names?
 
 
Well, at any rate, I´m happy I triggered my fellows´ curiosity!  Herr Pettersson is really talented.
 
cheers mate!
Sergio
2010/3/16 Ulrich Joosten <ulrich....@t-online.de>

Sergio,

I was not clear in my mail. I certaily believe that there are megatons of scandianvian tunes that really must have a trumpet. Just these specific Scandinavial tunes I was talking about are better played (in just my opinion) like e.g. some Carolan tunes without chien. I was not talking about Scandinavian tunes in general – I have some, but only limited knowledge about Scandinavian music so I would never do such a judgement ;-)

Anyway thanks a lot for your hint – I’ll go following it.

Cheers,
Uli

Am 16.03.10 14:22 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter <ribnikov....@gmail.com <http://ribnikov....@gmail.com> >:

I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the knarr.  Ulrich, I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in Lure/valramn or Faun, for example  cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or http://www.haraldpettersson.se <http://www.haraldpettersson.se/>  <http://www.haraldpettersson.se/> ; ), maybe that would change your opinion about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!

 
No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my friend! :)
 
cheers,
Sergio.
 
 
 


 

2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto....@gmail.com <http://augusto....@gmail.com> >

Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their instruments...


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten <ulrich....@t-online.de <http://ulrich....@t-online.de> > wrote:

Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog.  I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy.
What’s the opinion out there?

Best regards,
Uli

Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c....@virgin.net <http://c....@virgin.net>  <http://c....@virgin.net> >:

Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it.
I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.

Colin Hill

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From:  Ulrich Joosten <mailto:ulrich....@t-online.de>  
 

To: hurdy...@googlegroups.com <http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com>  <http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com>   

 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28  AM
 
Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
 

Hey everybody,

I love to play Planxty Irwin by  O’Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty’s version featuring Andy  Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to  play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving  down the scale. Could be worth to try.

Cheers,
Uli

Am  16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbara...@gmail.com <http://barbara...@gmail.com>  <http://barbara...@gmail.com> >:

 

Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's  March, but I ran out of notes. I'll give this one a  try.

Barbara

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale  <cruiks...@pintndale.com <http://cruiks...@pintndale.com>  <http://cruiks...@pintndale.com> >  wrote:
 
March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to  play and a lovely slow march.  Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is  a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well.  William  and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice  pairing.

Have  fun!

Felicia.

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ulrich....@folker.de <http://ulrich....@folker.de>  <http://ulrich....@folker.de>
www.gambrinus-folk.de <http://www.gambrinus-folk.de/>  <http://www.gambrinus-folk.de/>
 

[Barbara Currier]

Thank you, Neil, that's a great list. Some day Monsieur Bassot will get a brother, after I've saved up enough pennies, and he'll be a luteback D/G with a carved head. That's the plan. 

Oh, and thank you for teaching me how to get my tangents in tune without scraping off my eardrums and going bonkers (which I did for quite a long time). I watched your DVD early in our restoration project and saw what to do, but didn't remember (besides, I had the wrong kind of tangents for my little old hg). I watched it again (with wooden tangents in place) and now I only have a couple of notes that remain stubbornly wonky. 

All the Best,

Barbara

[George Leverett-Altarwind Hurdy Gurdies]

Hi Barbara:

There's a website that has loads of Irish & Scottish tunes at: trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind  

I believe that many songs on this site are offered in various keys, so you can find the version you like best.

 

You could also try:  www.ceolas.org/ceolas.html

 

Another good place to find Irish music arranged in the key of 'C' is harp music; many folk harps favor the key of 'c' (like the hurdy gurdy in C/G) so there are many books of harp music which are specifically rearranged for the key of C.  

 

Some of my favorites on the hurdy gurdy are Road to Lisdoonvarna, Merrily Kiss the Quaker, Mairi's Wedding, Skye Boat Song (Ok, a Scottish song),  Sheebeg Sheemor, and Planxty Irwin.

 

Happy St. Patrick's Day (a day early)

George

 

 

 

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[Barbara Currier]

Thanks to all responders on Irish and Scandinavian tunes. This has been interesting.

Barbara

[Barbara Currier]

Thanks, George. I have tons of tunes and tune books and have often used these sites. I also like to play my whistle along with the BBC virtual session site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/folk/sessions/

Thanks for the list of what you play on the hg. 

Barbara

[Felicia Dale]

I use my trompette string when it's appropriate for the key (as for She Moved Through the Faire) but don't use the dog until the third tune.

Also, if you're playing by yourself or with more flexible players you can do these tunes on a G/C gurdy- that's what I have and it's rarely been a problem.  If someone else can't work with me in those keys I just play in D without drones or retune the petit bourdon to A.

Felicia.

[Jon Redpath]

The sticky stuff arrived today. Thanks very much, great service.  JON

[Augusto de Ornellas Abreu]

She moved through the fair with trumpette?

Isn't it a slow air or something like that? How can you put a buzzing sound in such a haunting melody? It makes no sense to me...

[Andy Carter]

Play it slowly & freely twice, then speed it right up buzzing away one verse only, then repeat last line slowed right down again, and then put the rhythm back in while holding the final note. That's how I do it anyway - I guess you got to hear it!

 

Andy

[Felicia Dale]

I turn the wheel smoothly so there's no buzz. I save the buzz for the last tune in the set which is in an irregular time signature like 7/8 or something like that.

Felicia. 

[Felicia Dale]

Interesting!

Felicia.

[Leonard Williams]

Has anybody got the “dots” for “She moved through the fair”?  ABC, pdf, whatever.

Thanks,
Leonard Williams

On 3/16/10 11:05 PM, "Felicia Dale" <cruiks...@pintndale.com> wrote:

Interesting!

Felicia.

On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Andy Carter wrote:

 
Play it slowly & freely twice, then speed it right up buzzing away one verse only, then repeat last line slowed right down again, and then put the rhythm back in while holding the final note. That's how I do it anyway - I guess you got to hear it!
 
 
 
Andy
 
 

 
 
From: Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <mailto:augusto....@gmail.com>  
 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:13 PM
 
To: hurdy...@googlegroups.com
 
Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
 

She moved through the fair with trumpette?

 
Isn't it a slow air or something like that? How can you put a buzzing sound in such a haunting melody? It makes no sense to me...

 
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Felicia Dale <cruiks...@pintndale.com> wrote:
 

 
I use my trompette string when it's   appropriate for the key (as for She Moved Through the Faire) but don't use the   dog until the third tune.   

  
Also, if you're playing by yourself or with more flexible players you can   do these tunes on a G/C gurdy- that's what I have and it's rarely been a   problem.  If someone else can't work with me in those keys I just play in   D without drones or retune the petit bourdon to A.
  

 
Felicia.
 
  
  
  

  
  
On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten wrote:

  

Yes,     and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string.     NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone.     E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of     mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones,     maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my     taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog.      I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy.
What’s     the opinion out there?

Best regards,
Uli

Am 16.03.10     12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c....@virgin.net <http://c....@virgin.net> >:

   

Ah,       someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and       one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty       tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor       (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one       I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather       like it.
I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish       music on the HG.

Colin Hill
     

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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28          AM
 
Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish         tunes
 

Hey everybody,

I love to play Planxty         Irwin by  O’Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty’s         version featuring Andy  Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range         may caus problems, but I love to  play it on a low G-chanterelle,         starting at the high octave and then moving  down the scale. Could         be worth to try.

Cheers,
Uli

Am  16.03.10         07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbara...@gmail.com <http://barbara...@gmail.com> >:

 
       

Thank you, Felicia. I           thought I'd do O'Sullivan's  March, but I ran out of notes. I'll           give this one a  try.

Barbara

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010           at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale  <cruiks...@pintndale.com <http://cruiks...@pintndale.com> >            wrote:
 
         

March of the King of Laois             (sp?) is Irish, easy to  play and a lovely slow march.              Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is  a faster march             and really good fun to play on gurdy as well.  William              and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice              pairing.

Have              fun!

Felicia.

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[Paul Sherwood]

you might have to transpose it .. but a starting point is here
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/4735
Paul

[Dana R Gregory]

Anybody who is looking for Irish music, go to this web site. I have downloaded jigs, reels, hornpipes, slip gigs, airs, slides in abc or conventional sheet music form. It's great if you have Barfly. Here it is. www.norbeck.nu/abc/ --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:

[Leonard Williams]

Thanks--great site!

Leonard

[Leonard Williams]

Serious library of tunes!

Leonard

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[Dana R Gregory]

Right you are and some tunes are in 2 or 3 different keys. If you have Barfly, then you can play the midi to get familiar with the tune. It's a goldmine of traditional Irish music.

[Colin]

Yes fantastic site.

I've downloaded the abc and converted them with abc2midi (Windows) and they play fine.

The abc files play well in abc navigator (and it prints the dots from them as well ).

Life can be good..............

[Barbara Currier]

Yep, great site. Found out about that one when I was on the IrTrad list. Actually, I'm still on it, but I almost never read it, anymore, and never post. Just filters off into its own folder. There were some mighty flame wars there some time back and I never got back to it. Glad we don't do that here.

Barbara

[Felicia Dale]

I forgot about Loftus Jones!  It's fabulous on gurdy.  William and I do it as a duet usually though today at our St. Pat's gig we had fiddle and djembe (yes, I know, not typical...) and it was good fun.  The fiddle played a really nice baroque countermelody while Wm. and I held down the melody.

Felicia.

[Barbara Currier]

I didn't know which one that was, so I went on J C Tunefinder... oh! that's what that one is called! Thanks, Felicia. It is a cool tune and I've never known its name.

Barbara

[Neil Brook]

Hi Dana
I've not heard of Barfly , I can't seem to get much from Google
either so more info please.
Neil

On Mar 18, 7:30 am, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
> I forgot about Loftus Jones!  It's fabulous on gurdy.  William and I  
> do it as a duet usually though today at our St. Pat's gig we had  
> fiddle and djembe (yes, I know, not typical...) and it was good fun.  
> The fiddle played a really nice baroque countermelody while Wm. and I  
> held down the melody.
>
> Felicia.
>
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Dana R Gregory wrote:> Right you are and some tunes are in 2 or 3 different keys. If you  
> > have Barfly, then you can play the midi to get familiar with the  
> > tune. It's a goldmine of traditional Irish music.
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 3:14 PM
>
> > Serious library of tunes!
>
> > Leonard
>

> > On 3/17/10 5:10 PM, "Dana R Gregory" <streetclean...@sbcglobal.net>  

> > wrote:
>
> > Anybody who is looking for Irish music, go to this web site. I have  
> > downloaded jigs, reels, hornpipes, slip gigs, airs, slides in abc  
> > or conventional sheet music form. It's great if you have Barfly.  
> > Here it is.www.norbeck.nu/abc/
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:49 PM
>
> >  Has anybody got the “dots” for “She moved through the fair”?  ABC,  
> > pdf, whatever.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Leonard Williams
>

> > On 3/16/10 11:05 PM, "Felicia Dale" <cruikshan...@pintndale.com>  

> > wrote:
>
> > Interesting!
>
> > Felicia.
>
> > On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Andy Carter wrote:
>
> > Play it slowly & freely twice, then speed it right up buzzing away  
> > one verse only, then repeat last line slowed right down again, and  
> > then put the rhythm back in while holding the final note. That's  
> > how I do it anyway - I guess you got to hear it!
>
> > Andy
>

> > Am 16.03.10     12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net  
> > <http://c...@virgin.net> >:

>
> > Ah,       someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite  
> > of mine too and       one of the first tunes I learned to play on  
> > HG (yes, I have the Planxty       tape with it on) usually followed  
> > by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor       (or any of a dozen  
> > alternative spelling that abound but you know which one       I  
> > mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I  
> > rather       like it.
> > I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish        
> > music on the HG.
>
> > Colin Hill
>
> > ----- Original Message         -----
>

> > From:  Ulrich Joosten <mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> </mc/
> > compose?to=ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
>
> > To: hurdy...@googlegroups.com <http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28          AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish         tunes
>
> > Hey everybody,
>
> > I love to play Planxty         Irwin by  O’Carolan. You should  
> > listen to the band Planxty’s         version featuring Andy  Irvine  
> > on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range         may caus problems, but  
> > I love to  play it on a low G-chanterelle,         starting at the  
> > high octave and then moving  down the scale. Could         be worth  
> > to try.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Uli
>
> > Am  16.03.10         07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter  

> > <barbaracurr...@gmail.com <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:

>
> > Thank you, Felicia. I           thought I'd do O'Sullivan's  March,  
> > but I ran out of notes. I'll           give this one a  try.
>
> > Barbara
>
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010           at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale  

> > <cruikshan...@pintndale.com <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com>  

> > >            wrote:
>
> > March of the King of Laois             (sp?) is Irish, easy to  
> > play and a lovely slow march.              Atholl Highlanders,  
> > while Scottish, is  a faster march             and really good fun  
> > to play on gurdy as well.  William              and I play them  
> > together as a set and they make for a nice              pairing.
>
> > Have              fun!
>
> > Felicia.
>
> > --  
> > Ulrich         Joosten, Nettergasse 35, 41539 Dormagen, Tel.  
> > 02133-210900

> > ulrich.joos...@t-online.de <http://ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
> > ulrich.joos...@folker.de <http://ulrich.joos...@folker.de>

> >www.gambrinus-folk.de<http://www.gambrinus-folk.de>
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[Neil Brook]

I've not heard of Barfly , Google hasn't either so more info please

On Mar 18, 7:30 am, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:

> I forgot about Loftus Jones!  It's fabulous on gurdy.  William and I  
> do it as a duet usually though today at our St. Pat's gig we had  
> fiddle and djembe (yes, I know, not typical...) and it was good fun.  
> The fiddle played a really nice baroque countermelody while Wm. and I  
> held down the melody.
>
> Felicia.
>
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Dana R Gregory wrote:> Right you are and some tunes are in 2 or 3 different keys. If you  
> > have Barfly, then you can play the midi to get familiar with the  
> > tune. It's a goldmine of traditional Irish music.
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 3:14 PM
>
> > Serious library of tunes!
>
> > Leonard
>

> > On 3/17/10 5:10 PM, "Dana R Gregory" <streetclean...@sbcglobal.net>  

> > wrote:
>
> > Anybody who is looking for Irish music, go to this web site. I have  
> > downloaded jigs, reels, hornpipes, slip gigs, airs, slides in abc  
> > or conventional sheet music form. It's great if you have Barfly.  
> > Here it is.www.norbeck.nu/abc/
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:49 PM
>
> >  Has anybody got the “dots” for “She moved through the fair”?  ABC,  
> > pdf, whatever.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Leonard Williams
>

> > On 3/16/10 11:05 PM, "Felicia Dale" <cruikshan...@pintndale.com>  

> > wrote:
>
> > Interesting!
>
> > Felicia.
>
> > On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Andy Carter wrote:
>
> > Play it slowly & freely twice, then speed it right up buzzing away  
> > one verse only, then repeat last line slowed right down again, and  
> > then put the rhythm back in while holding the final note. That's  
> > how I do it anyway - I guess you got to hear it!
>
> > Andy
>

> > Am 16.03.10     12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net  
> > <http://c...@virgin.net> >:

>
> > Ah,       someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite  
> > of mine too and       one of the first tunes I learned to play on  
> > HG (yes, I have the Planxty       tape with it on) usually followed  
> > by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor       (or any of a dozen  
> > alternative spelling that abound but you know which one       I  
> > mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I  
> > rather       like it.
> > I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish        
> > music on the HG.
>
> > Colin Hill
>
> > ----- Original Message         -----
>

> > From:  Ulrich Joosten <mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> </mc/
> > compose?to=ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
>
> > To: hurdy...@googlegroups.com <http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28          AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish         tunes
>
> > Hey everybody,
>
> > I love to play Planxty         Irwin by  O’Carolan. You should  
> > listen to the band Planxty’s         version featuring Andy  Irvine  
> > on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range         may caus problems, but  
> > I love to  play it on a low G-chanterelle,         starting at the  
> > high octave and then moving  down the scale. Could         be worth  
> > to try.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Uli
>
> > Am  16.03.10         07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter  

> > <barbaracurr...@gmail.com <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:

>
> > Thank you, Felicia. I           thought I'd do O'Sullivan's  March,  
> > but I ran out of notes. I'll           give this one a  try.
>
> > Barbara
>
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010           at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale  

> > <cruikshan...@pintndale.com <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com>  

> > >            wrote:
>
> > March of the King of Laois             (sp?) is Irish, easy to  
> > play and a lovely slow march.              Atholl Highlanders,  
> > while Scottish, is  a faster march             and really good fun  
> > to play on gurdy as well.  William              and I play them  
> > together as a set and they make for a nice              pairing.
>
> > Have              fun!
>
> > Felicia.
>
> > --  
> > Ulrich         Joosten, Nettergasse 35, 41539 Dormagen, Tel.  
> > 02133-210900

> > ulrich.joos...@t-online.de <http://ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
> > ulrich.joos...@folker.de <http://ulrich.joos...@folker.de>

> >www.gambrinus-folk.de<http://www.gambrinus-folk.de>
>
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[Dennis Sherman]

I believe Dana is talking about this: http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/

It's an abc notation/processing/playing tool, one of many available.

--
Dennis Sherman
Chicago, IL, USA
http://www.dennissherman.com

----- Original Message ----
> From: Neil Brook <nwb...@googlemail.com>
> To: hurdygurdy <hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 6:41:16 AM
> Subject: [HG-new] Re: Irish tunes
>
> I've not heard of Barfly , Google hasn't either so more info please

On
> Mar 18, 7:30 am, Felicia Dale <

> href="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com">cruikshan...@pintndale.com>

> wrote:
> I forgot about Loftus Jones! It's fabulous on gurdy. William
> and I
> do it as a duet usually though today at our St. Pat's gig we had
>
> fiddle and djembe (yes, I know, not typical...) and it was good fun.
>
> The fiddle played a really nice baroque countermelody while Wm. and I
>
> held down the melody.
>
> Felicia.
>
> On Mar
> 17, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Dana R Gregory wrote:> Right you are and some tunes are
> in 2 or 3 different keys. If you
> > have Barfly, then you can play
> the midi to get familiar with the
> > tune. It's a goldmine of
> traditional Irish music.
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard
> Williams <

> href="mailto:arc...@verizon.net">arc...@verizon.net>

> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <
> ymailto="mailto:arc...@verizon.net"
> href="mailto:arc...@verizon.net">arc...@verizon.net>
> >
> Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <

> ymailto="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com"
> href="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com">hurdy...@googlegroups.com>

>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 3:14 PM
>
> > Serious
> library of tunes!
>
> > Leonard
>
> > On 3/17/10
> 5:10 PM, "Dana R Gregory" <

> href="mailto:streetclean...@sbcglobal.net">streetclean...@sbcglobal.net>

>
> > wrote:
>
> > Anybody who is looking for Irish
> music, go to this web site. I have
> > downloaded jigs, reels,
> hornpipes, slip gigs, airs, slides in abc
> > or conventional sheet
> music form. It's great if you have Barfly.
> > Here it
> is.www.norbeck.nu/abc/
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Leonard
> Williams <

> href="mailto:arc...@verizon.net">arc...@verizon.net>

> wrote:
>
> > From: Leonard Williams <
> ymailto="mailto:arc...@verizon.net"
> href="mailto:arc...@verizon.net">arc...@verizon.net>
> >
> Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
> > To: "Hurdy-Gurdy List" <

> ymailto="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com"
> href="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com">hurdy...@googlegroups.com>

>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:49 PM
>
> > Has anybody
> got the “dots” for “She moved through the fair”? ABC,
> > pdf,
> whatever.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Leonard
> Williams
>
> > On 3/16/10 11:05 PM, "Felicia Dale" <

> ymailto="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com"
> href="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com">cruikshan...@pintndale.com>

>
> > wrote:
>
> > Interesting!
>
> >
> Felicia.
>
> > On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Andy Carter
> wrote:
>
> > Play it slowly & freely twice, then speed it
> right up buzzing away
> > one verse only, then repeat last line
> slowed right down again, and
> > then put the rhythm back in while
> holding the final note. That's
> > how I do it anyway - I guess you
> got to hear it!
>
> > Andy
>
> > From: Augusto de
> Ornellas Abreu <mailto:

> href="mailto:augusto.ornel...@gmail.com">augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
>
> > </mc/compose?to=
> href="mailto:augusto.ornel...@gmail.com">augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>

>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:13 PM
>
> > To:

> ymailto="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com"
> href="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com">hurdy...@googlegroups.com

>
>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes
>
> > She moved through
> the fair with trumpette?
>
> > Isn't it a slow air or something
> like that? How can you put a
> > buzzing sound in such a haunting
> melody? It makes no sense to me...
>
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at
> 5:01 PM, Felicia Dale
> > <

> ymailto="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com"
> href="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com">cruikshan...@pintndale.com>

> href="mailto:c...@virgin.net">c...@virgin.net
> > <
> href="http://c...@virgin.net" target=_blank >http://c...@virgin.net>

> >:
>
> > Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin
> is a favourite
> > of mine too and one of the first tunes I
> learned to play on
> > HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape with it
> on) usually followed
> > by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor
> (or any of a dozen
> > alternative spelling that abound but you
> know which one I
> > mean) although that does require a LOT of
> octave hopping but I
> > rather like it.
> > I do tend
> to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish
> > music on
> the HG.
>
> > Colin Hill
>
> > ----- Original
> Message -----
>
> > From: Ulrich Joosten <mailto:

> ymailto="mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de"
> href="mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de">ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
> </mc/
> > compose?to=
> href="mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de">ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
>
>
> > To:
> href="mailto:hurdy...@googlegroups.com">hurdy...@googlegroups.com <
> href="http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com" target=_blank

> >http://hurdy...@googlegroups.com>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> March 16, 2010 7:28 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish
> tunes
>
> > Hey everybody,
>
> > I love to
> play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should
> > listen to
> the band Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine
> > on
> hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but
> >
> I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the
>
> > high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth
>
> > to try.
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> Uli
>
> > Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier"
> unter
> > <

> href="mailto:barbaracurr...@gmail.com">barbaracurr...@gmail.com <
> href="http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com" target=_blank

> >http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:
>
> > Thank you,
> Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March,
> > but I
> ran out of notes. I'll give this one a try.
>
> >
> Barbara
>
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia
> Dale
> > <

> href="mailto:cruikshan...@pintndale.com">cruikshan...@pintndale.com <
> href="http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com" target=_blank

> >http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com>
> > >
> wrote:
>
> > March of the King of Laois (sp?) is
> Irish, easy to
> > play and a lovely slow march. Atholl
> Highlanders,
> > while Scottish, is a faster march and
> really good fun
> > to play on gurdy as well. William
> and I play them
> > together as a set and they make for a nice
> pairing.
>
> > Have fun!
>
> >
> Felicia.
>
> > --
> > Ulrich Joosten,
> Nettergasse 35, 41539 Dormagen, Tel.
> > 02133-210900
> >

> ymailto="mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de"
> href="mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de">ulrich.joos...@t-online.de <
> href="http://ulrich.joos...@t-online.de" target=_blank
> >http://ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>
> >
> ymailto="mailto:ulrich.joos...@folker.de"
> href="mailto:ulrich.joos...@folker.de">ulrich.joos...@folker.de <
> href="http://ulrich.joos...@folker.de" target=_blank
> >http://ulrich.joos...@folker.de>
> >www.gambrinus-folk.de<
> href="http://www.gambrinus-folk.de" target=_blank

> >http://www.gambrinus-folk.de>
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[Barbara Currier]

Yep, I've used it on my macs for years, but I haven't tried it on my new mac, so I don't know if it has been sufficiently upgraded. I prefer it to the pc abc readers I've used, but my pc died, so no use my comparing, anymore. :^/

Barbara

[Matthew Szostak]

And... if I recall correctly it's not PC compatible, so MACs only?

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[Anthony Shostak]

There is the free ABC converter at
http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html. This can convert to a
nice pdf. The midi tune generator never deals with ornaments well, so
best to avoid.

Anthony

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[Roy Trotter]

On 3/19/10, Matthew Szostak <gu...@midcoast.com> wrote:
> And... if I recall correctly it's not PC compatible, so MACs only

I believe there is (or was) a PC version. The writer is (or was)a Mac
Programmer, so ... .

Roy