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Belinda Daughtry <bgd...@charter.net>: Jan 06 05:00AM -0600
Cali and Alden, this is one of your instruments. Are these Pegheads on it? They're slipping really badly. I haven't been able to use this instrument for quite some time now, but would really like to be able to play it again.
Belinda
cali.an...@gmail.com: Jan 06 06:07AM -0800
There are two reasons for Pegheds slipping. One could that the peg top is loose and needs to be pushed down into the body. The other is that the body of the Peghed is unglued from the hole that it's in. If you can see the body turning when you tighten or loosen the peg, that's what's happening.
If the body is unglued, we can send you directions for regluing.
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Arle Lommel <arle....@gmail.com>: Jan 06 09:18AM -0500
I just went back and looked at Belinda's original photo and realized she does indeed seem to have Pegheds. I second Alden and Cali’s explanations, as I've had both happen.
When I recently had my instrument serviced, Balázs did something to the Pegheds that helped. Some of them had repeatedly come loose from the glue bonds, so he took a needle file and filed some light grooves in just the area where they are in contact with the wood so that there was a rougher surface for the glue to grip. I had one peg in particular that had repeatedly broken free from the glue and since then it has held much better.
-Arle
Melissa Kacalanos <mij...@yahoo.com>: Jan 06 06:46AM -0500
I might be unusual, but I don't mind the friction pegs on my hg. With a good coating of Peg Dope, they work just fine.
Melissa the Loud
www.melissatheloud.com
Arle Lommel <arle....@gmail.com>: Jan 06 09:15AM -0500
I assume you're talking about your Hungarian instrument, correct? There is no need for mechanical tuners on them because the heads are so big it make tuning easy. But on French-style instruments with friction pegs a tourne-à-gauche is pretty much essential. Mechanical tuners do away with that need.
-Arle
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The wooden head seems to have come loose from the body of the peg, not off, but loose. It won't hold the string tension. Now that I know what I have, I'll take it to a luthier and see if they can help.
Thank you all for the help.
Belinda
cali.an...@gmail.com: Jan 07 09:14AM -0800
The head on a Peghed is a cast resin. It's cast around a shaft of gear material that turns the gears inside the shaft. I've never seen a head come loose from the shaft before, but there's a first time for everything.
The cool thing with Pegheds is their ability to let the player adjust how tight they are. Pushing the head down into the body while turning the peg tightens the string holding. If that isn't working for you, the machine may need to be replaced.
A
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Arle Lommel <arle....@gmail.com>: Jan 07 12:17PM -0500
Reading Belinda's description, I bet your second paragraph is the problem: the head just needs to pushed in more when turning it. It's easy to miss and then wonder why it's "loose". (I also got one that suffered a fall and was jammed in too hard: it took a *lot* or work to get it functioning properly.)
-Arle
gurdymaker <hurdy...@talktalk.net>: Jan 07 02:56AM -0800
I've never had any problems with the Peghed tuners. If they are fitted correctly so the thread on the barrel cuts into the taper of the hole, the string tension tends to tighten them in place assuming they are strung in the traditional way ( anti clockwise to tighten. ) .
There is a natural tendency to push down on the button when tuning which is standard practice for normal taper pegs but the Peghed will lock up solid if you press down hard. It then becomes very stiff to turn and there is a possibility that in trying to tighten the string,the peg can unscrew. The solution is not to press down on the button as you turn. If you have and the peg is stiff, continue to turn the peg clockwise and at the same time pull up hard on the button. This will free the mechanism again.
Arle Lommel <arle....@gmail.com>: Jan 07 06:19AM -0500
That's true, although I forgot that a few of my pegs were cross-threaded, because I was mistaken about which end of the pegs the threading was in reference to when I ordered them. And I think the one peg I had the most trouble with was the one that was cross-threaded.
-Arle
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That is pretty cool.