Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
Irish tunes are a little tricky to play on the HG, because of the scales, arpeggios and other things that complicate the fingering... Not to mention the breakneck pace many of them are played at, totally difficult to do on a HG...
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Barbara Currier <barbaracurr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session > this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. > Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. > Sounds Scandinavian.
> All the Best, > Barbara
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March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
Have fun!
Felicia.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Barbara Currier wrote:
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish > session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. > Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't > sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
> All the Best, > Barbara
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That would be why I can't just pop in and play all the things I play on the harp and whistle and play my bodhran under and why I'm asking what people have tried and like playing.
I agree, which is one reason why I suggested a slow march rather than a reel or a jig. Though jigs and reels can be really lovely if they're played slowly and then the arpeggios and such are a little more approachable. Not easy but approachable. :)
Felicia.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Augusto de Ornellas Abreu wrote:
> Irish tunes are a little tricky to play on the HG, because of the > scales, arpeggios and other things that complicate the fingering... > Not to mention the breakneck pace many of them are played at, > totally difficult to do on a HG...
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Barbara Currier > <barbaracurr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, folks,
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish > session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. > Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't > sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
> All the Best, > Barbara
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An air would be interesting, too. I play "The Girl With the Dark Hair" and "She Moved Through the Faire" followed by a Breton tune (sorry I don't know the name) and "Watson" by John Peekstok after it as well. "Watson" isn't even remotely Irish sounding but it kicks ass and people generally really like it.
Felicia.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Barbara Currier wrote:
> That would be why I can't just pop in and play all the things I > play on the harp and whistle and play my bodhran under and why I'm > asking what people have tried and like playing.
> :^) > Barbara
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> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow > march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really > good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a > set and they make for a nice pairing.
I love to play Planxty Irwin by O¹Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty¹s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth to try.
Cheers, Uli
Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of > notes. I'll give this one a try.
> Barbara
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> > wrote: >> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow >> march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really good >> fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a set and >> they make for a nice pairing.
Firstly, you need to get hold of a D/G hurdy-gurdy as that's where the notes are for most of the Irish repertoire.
I have recorded a couple of dozen Irish tunes with a D/G instrument just to see if I could and they very different to than French tunes. I won't say harder because to play both styles require far more input than just playing the notes. French playing generally needs more in the way of grace notes and ornaments .
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session > this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. > Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. > Sounds Scandinavian.
I do mainly song tunes but Planxty Fanny Power is a favourite of mine. Wind That Shakes The Barley works as a sad air I find. Belle Of Belfast City (Tell Me Ma) will get people clapping on any instrument. She Moves Through The Fair as already mentioned. Las Vegas In The Hills Of Donnegal followed by Botany Bay works. Rising Of The Moon, Night Visiting Song, Fields Of Athenry all work... Happy St. Patrick's Day! Andy
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Hi, folks,
Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
All the Best, Barbara
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Although it's not traditional but rather new-Celtic, Mary Fahl's Going Home (NOT the Dvořak piece, but rather the opening track from the movie Gods and Generals) is very effective. In the movie it is played on fiddle and uillean pipe, but it works well, I've found, to start it on a single chanterelle and add a second one for the second verse and a third (I have a G g g tuning) on the first refrain, and then add the low C drone for the third verse and bring in the low G drone for the second refrain. I usually round it out with The Water is Wide.
Carrickfergus also works well on HG, although your instrument will have to be in good order since Carrickfergus will use the upper range and can sound bad on an instrument if the upper range is off.
> I do mainly song tunes but Planxty Fanny Power is a favourite of mine. Wind That Shakes The Barley works as a sad air I find. Belle Of Belfast City (Tell Me Ma) will get people clapping on any instrument. She Moves Through The Fair as already mentioned. Las Vegas In The Hills Of Donnegal followed by Botany Bay works. Rising Of The Moon, Night Visiting Song, Fields Of Athenry all work... Happy St. Patrick's Day! Andy
> -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Currier > Sent: 3/16/2010 5:13:06 AM > To: hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com > Subject: [HG-new] Irish tunes > Hi, folks,
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
> All the Best, > Barbara
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Re: [HG-new] Irish tunesAh, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it. I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.
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Hey everybody,
I love to play Planxty Irwin by O'Carolan. You should listen to the band Planxty's version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth to try.
Cheers, Uli
Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter <barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of notes. I'll give this one a try.
Barbara
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
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Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. What¹s the opinion out there?
Best regards, Uli
Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too and > one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty tape > with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any > of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) > although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it. > I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.
>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O¹Carolan. You should listen to the band >> Planxty¹s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal range >> may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, starting at >> the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth to try.
>> Cheers, >> Uli
>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter >> <barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
>>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of >>> notes. I'll give this one a try.
>>> Barbara
>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> >>> wrote:
>>>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow >>>> march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really >>>> good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a >>>> set and they make for a nice pairing.
Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their instruments...
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten <ulrich.joos...@t-online.de>wrote:
> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet > string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet > drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a > friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use > drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. > For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a > dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. > What’s the opinion out there?
> Best regards, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too > and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty > tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor > (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I > mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like > it. > I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.
> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the band > Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal > range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, > starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth > to try.
> Cheers, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter < > barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of > notes. I'll give this one a try.
> Barbara
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale < > cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow > march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really > good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a > set and they make for a nice pairing.
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I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the *knarr*. Ulrich, I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in Lure/valramn or Faun, for example cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or http://www.haraldpettersson.se; ), maybe that would change your opinion about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!
No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my friend! :)
cheers, Sergio.
2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on > northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their > instruments...
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten < > ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet >> string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet >> drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a >> friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use >> drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. >> For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a >> dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. >> What’s the opinion out there?
>> Best regards, >> Uli
>> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too >> and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty >> tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor >> (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I >> mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like >> it. >> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the >> HG.
>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the band >> Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal >> range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, >> starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth >> to try.
>> Cheers, >> Uli
>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter < >> barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of >> notes. I'll give this one a try.
>> Barbara
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale < >> cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow >> march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really >> good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a >> set and they make for a nice pairing.
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I wouldn't mention Faun as an example of HG music...
I love their music, but...
on almost if not all tunes where you see the pretty lady playing the HG, she is only holding it and turning the crank, playing open strings and drones, not a melody at all...
If you're gonna use a gurdy, at least use the freaking keys...
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Sergio F. Ribnikov <
ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com> wrote: > I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the *knarr*. Ulrich, > I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in > Lure/valramn or Faun, for example cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or > http://www.haraldpettersson.se; ), maybe that would change your opinion > about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!
> No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my > friend! :)
> cheers, > Sergio.
> 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on >> northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their >> instruments...
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten < >> ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet >>> string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet >>> drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a >>> friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use >>> drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. >>> For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a >>> dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. >>> What’s the opinion out there?
>>> Best regards, >>> Uli
>>> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
>>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine >>> too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the >>> Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg >>> sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know >>> which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I >>> rather like it. >>> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the >>> HG.
>>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the band >>> Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal >>> range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, >>> starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth >>> to try.
>>> Cheers, >>> Uli
>>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter < >>> barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
>>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out >>> of notes. I'll give this one a try.
>>> Barbara
>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale < >>> cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
>>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely >>> slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and >>> really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together >>> as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
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sorry, my friend. that was a typo.. I was talking about Harald´s bands. Where I wrote FAUN it should have read *RAUN. * *http://www.cdroots.com/cda-drone36.html* **
With regard to Faun, I share your view. That is indeed a pretty lady :) cheers! Sergio 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
> I wouldn't mention Faun as an example of HG music...
> I love their music, but...
> on almost if not all tunes where you see the pretty lady playing the HG, > she is only holding it and turning the crank, playing open strings and > drones, not a melody at all...
> If you're gonna use a gurdy, at least use the freaking keys...
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Sergio F. Ribnikov < > ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the *knarr*. Ulrich, >> I recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in >> Lure/valramn or Faun, for example cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or >> http://www.haraldpettersson.se; ), maybe that would change your opinion >> about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music!
>> No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my >> friend! :)
>> cheers, >> Sergio.
>> 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
>> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on >>> northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their >>> instruments...
>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten < >>> ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet >>>> string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet >>>> drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a >>>> friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use >>>> drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. >>>> For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a >>>> dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. >>>> What’s the opinion out there?
>>>> Best regards, >>>> Uli
>>>> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
>>>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine >>>> too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the >>>> Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg >>>> sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know >>>> which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I >>>> rather like it. >>>> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the >>>> HG.
>>>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the >>>> band Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal >>>> range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, >>>> starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth >>>> to try.
>>>> Cheers, >>>> Uli
>>>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter < >>>> barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out >>>> of notes. I'll give this one a try.
>>>> Barbara
>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale < >>>> cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
>>>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely >>>> slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and >>>> really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together >>>> as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
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I was not clear in my mail. I certaily believe that there are megatons of scandianvian tunes that really must have a trumpet. Just these specific Scandinavial tunes I was talking about are better played (in just my opinion) like e.g. some Carolan tunes without chien. I was not talking about Scandinavian tunes in general I have some, but only limited knowledge about Scandinavian music so I would never do such a judgement ;-)
Anyway thanks a lot for your hint I¹ll go following it.
Cheers, Uli
Am 16.03.10 14:22 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter <ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com>:
> I personally love the buzz, or like the Swedish say the knarr. Ulrich, I > recommend you to listen to some of Harald Pettersson´s work (in Lure/valramn > or Faun, for example cf. http://www.myspace.com/lurevalramn or > http://www.haraldpettersson.se <http://www.haraldpettersson.se/> ; ), maybe > that would change your opinion about the chien in Scandinavian hurdy music! > > No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my > friend! :) > > cheers, > Sergio. > > >
> > 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com> >> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on >> northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their >> instruments...
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten <ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> >> wrote: >>> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet string. >>> NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet drone. >>> E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a friend of >>> mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use drones, >>> maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my >>> taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog. I >>> guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. >>> What¹s the opinion out there?
>>> Best regards, >>> Uli
>>> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net >>> <http://c...@virgin.net> >:
>>>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too >>>> and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty >>>> tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor >>>> (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one >>>> I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather >>>> like it. >>>> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.
>>>> Colin Hill
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: Ulrich Joosten <mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> >>>>> >>>>> To: hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com <http://hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28 AM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes >>>>>
>>>>> Hey everybody,
>>>>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O¹Carolan. You should listen to the band >>>>> Planxty¹s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal >>>>> range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, >>>>> starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be >>>>> worth to try.
>>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Uli
>>>>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter >>>>> <barbaracurr...@gmail.com <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:
>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out >>>>>> of notes. I'll give this one a try.
>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale >>>>>> <cruikshan...@pintndale.com <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely >>>>>>> slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and >>>>>>> really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them >>>>>>> together as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
> I was not clear in my mail. I certaily believe that there are megatons of > scandianvian tunes that really must have a trumpet. Just these specific > Scandinavial tunes I was talking about are better played (in just my > opinion) like e.g. some Carolan tunes without chien. I was not talking about > Scandinavian tunes in general – I have some, but only limited knowledge > about Scandinavian music so I would never do such a judgement ;-)
> Anyway thanks a lot for your hint – I’ll go following it.
> Cheers, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 14:22 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter < > ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com>:
> No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my > friend! :)
> cheers, > Sergio.
> 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com>
> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on > northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their > instruments...
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten < > ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet > string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet > drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a > friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely use > drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. > For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a > dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. > What’s the opinion out there?
> Best regards, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net < > http://c...@virgin.net> >:
> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too > and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the Planxty > tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg sheemor > (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know which one I > mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like > it. > I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the HG.
> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to the band > Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide tonal > range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low G-chanterelle, > starting at the high octave and then moving down the scale. Could be worth > to try.
> Cheers, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter < > barbaracurr...@gmail.com <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:
> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of > notes. I'll give this one a try.
> Barbara
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale < > cruikshan...@pintndale.com <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com> > wrote:
> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow > march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really > good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a > set and they make for a nice pairing.
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> I see, Ulrich. Well, I´m intrigued now. Which scandinavian tune would these > be? do you know the names? > > > Well, at any rate, I´m happy I triggered my fellows´ curiosity! Herr > Pettersson is really talented. > > cheers mate! > Sergio > 2010/3/16 Ulrich Joosten <ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> >> Sergio,
>> I was not clear in my mail. I certaily believe that there are megatons of >> scandianvian tunes that really must have a trumpet. Just these specific >> Scandinavial tunes I was talking about are better played (in just my opinion) >> like e.g. some Carolan tunes without chien. I was not talking about >> Scandinavian tunes in general I have some, but only limited knowledge about >> Scandinavian music so I would never do such a judgement ;-)
>> Anyway thanks a lot for your hint I¹ll go following it.
>> Cheers, >> Uli
>> Am 16.03.10 14:22 schrieb "Sergio F. Ribnikov" unter >> <ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com <http://ribnikov.gunnars...@gmail.com> >:
>>> >>> No matter how it turns out, keep those nice Scandinavian tunes alive, my >>> friend! :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> Sergio. >>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> 2010/3/16 Augusto de Ornellas Abreu <augusto.ornel...@gmail.com >>> <http://augusto.ornel...@gmail.com> > >>>> Actually there are many HG traditions out there - like the Galegos on >>>> northwestern Spain - that do not even have a buzzing string on their >>>> instruments...
>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten <ulrich.joos...@t-online.de >>>> <http://ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> > wrote: >>>>> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a trumpet >>>>> string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not need a trumpet >>>>> drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes played together with a >>>>> friend of mine on two gurdies with first and second voice and we barely >>>>> use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 instruments, not to mention >>>>> thetrumpet. For my taste their beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed >>>>> by using a dog. I guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. >>>>> What¹s the opinion out there?
>>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Uli
>>>>> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net >>>>> <http://c...@virgin.net> <http://c...@virgin.net> >:
>>>>>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of mine too >>>>>> and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, I have the >>>>>> Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another favourite of sheebeg >>>>>> sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative spelling that abound but you know >>>>>> which one I mean) although that does require a LOT of octave hopping but >>>>>> I rather like it. >>>>>> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music on the >>>>>> HG.
>>>>>> Colin Hill
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Ulrich Joosten <mailto:ulrich.joos...@t-online.de> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com <http://hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> <http://hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:28 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HG-new] Irish tunes >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everybody,
>>>>>>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O¹Carolan. You should listen to the >>>>>>> band Planxty¹s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. The wide >>>>>>> tonal range may caus problems, but I love to play it on a low >>>>>>> G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving down the >>>>>>> scale. Could be worth to try.
>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Uli
>>>>>>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter >>>>>>> <barbaracurr...@gmail.com <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> <http://barbaracurr...@gmail.com> >:
>>>>>>>
Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I ran out of notes. I'll give this one a try.
Barbara
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale <cruikshan...@pintndale.com <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com> <http://cruikshan...@pintndale.com> > wrote:
March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a lovely slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well. William and I play them together as a set and they make for a nice pairing.
Thank you, Neil, that's a great list. Some day Monsieur Bassot will get a brother, after I've saved up enough pennies, and he'll be a luteback D/G with a carved head. That's the plan.
Oh, and thank you for teaching me how to get my tangents in tune without scraping off my eardrums and going bonkers (which I did for quite a long time). I watched your DVD early in our restoration project and saw what to do, but didn't remember (besides, I had the wrong kind of tangents for my little old hg). I watched it again (with wooden tangents in place) and now I only have a couple of notes that remain stubbornly wonky.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, gurdymaker <hurdygu...@talktalk.net> wrote: > Hi Barbara
> Firstly, you need to get hold of a D/G hurdy-gurdy as that's where the > notes are for most of the Irish repertoire.
> I have recorded a couple of dozen Irish tunes with a D/G instrument > just to see if I could and they very different to than French tunes. > I won't say harder because to play both styles require far more input > than just playing the notes. French playing generally needs more in > the way of grace notes and ornaments .
> Neil > On Mar 16, 5:13 am, Barbara Currier <barbaracurr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, folks,
> > Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> > No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session > > this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. > > Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to > me. > > Sounds Scandinavian.
> > All the Best, > > Barbara
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Hi Barbara: There's a website that has loads of Irish & Scottish tunes at: trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind I believe that many songs on this site are offered in various keys, so you can find the version you like best.
Another good place to find Irish music arranged in the key of 'C' is harp music; many folk harps favor the key of 'c' (like the hurdy gurdy in C/G) so there are many books of harp music which are specifically rearranged for the key of C.
Some of my favorites on the hurdy gurdy are Road to Lisdoonvarna, Merrily Kiss the Quaker, Mairi's Wedding, Skye Boat Song (Ok, a Scottish song), Sheebeg Sheemor, and Planxty Irwin.
----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Currier To: hurdygurdy@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:13 PM Subject: [HG-new] Irish tunes
Hi, folks,
Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. Sounds Scandinavian.
All the Best, Barbara
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> Thank you, Neil, that's a great list. Some day Monsieur Bassot will get a > brother, after I've saved up enough pennies, and he'll be a luteback D/G > with a carved head. That's the plan.
> Oh, and thank you for teaching me how to get my tangents in tune without > scraping off my eardrums and going bonkers (which I did for quite a long > time). I watched your DVD early in our restoration project and saw what to > do, but didn't remember (besides, I had the wrong kind of tangents for my > little old hg). I watched it again (with wooden tangents in place) and now I > only have a couple of notes that remain stubbornly wonky.
> All the Best, > Barbara
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, gurdymaker <hurdygu...@talktalk.net>wrote:
>> Hi Barbara
>> Firstly, you need to get hold of a D/G hurdy-gurdy as that's where the >> notes are for most of the Irish repertoire.
>> I have recorded a couple of dozen Irish tunes with a D/G instrument >> just to see if I could and they very different to than French tunes. >> I won't say harder because to play both styles require far more input >> than just playing the notes. French playing generally needs more in >> the way of grace notes and ornaments .
>> Neil >> On Mar 16, 5:13 am, Barbara Currier <barbaracurr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, folks,
>> > Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
>> > No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish >> session >> > this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. >> > Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to >> me. >> > Sounds Scandinavian.
>> > All the Best, >> > Barbara
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Thanks, George. I have tons of tunes and tune books and have often used these sites. I also like to play my whistle along with the BBC virtual session site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/folk/sessions/
Thanks for the list of what you play on the hg.
Barbara
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:30 AM, George Leverett-Altarwind Hurdy Gurdies <
mu...@aroundthehearth.com> wrote: > Hi Barbara: > There's a website that has loads of Irish & Scottish tunes at: > trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind > I believe that many songs on this site are offered in various keys, so you > can find the version you like best.
> Another good place to find Irish music arranged in the key of 'C' is harp > music; many folk harps favor the key of 'c' (like the hurdy gurdy in C/G) so > there are many books of harp music which are specifically rearranged for the > key of C.
> Some of my favorites on the hurdy gurdy are Road to Lisdoonvarna, Merrily > Kiss the Quaker, Mairi's Wedding, Skye Boat Song (Ok, a Scottish song), > Sheebeg Sheemor, and Planxty Irwin.
> Do you have any Irish tunes you like playing on the G/C hurdy gurdy?
> No, I'm not going to insensitively invade some unsuspecting Irish session > this Wednesday, I just want to play something fun on St. Patrick's Day. > Sonny's Mazurka is pretty good, but honestly doesn't sound very Irish to me. > Sounds Scandinavian.
> All the Best, > Barbara
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I use my trompette string when it's appropriate for the key (as for She Moved Through the Faire) but don't use the dog until the third tune.
Also, if you're playing by yourself or with more flexible players you can do these tunes on a G/C gurdy- that's what I have and it's rarely been a problem. If someone else can't work with me in those keys I just play in D without drones or retune the petit bourdon to A.
Felicia.
On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Ulrich Joosten wrote:
> Yes, and I forgot to mention: I NEVER play these ones with a > trumpet string. NEVER EVER!!!!!! Many of my favourite tunes do not > need a trumpet drone. E.g. I really enjoy some scandinavian tunes > played together with a friend of mine on two gurdies with first and > second voice and we barely use drones, maybe just one or max 2 on 2 > instruments, not to mention thetrumpet. For my taste their > beautiful minor melodies would be disturbed by using a dog. I > guess that lots of people think: no buzzing, no gurdy. > What’s the opinion out there?
> Best regards, > Uli
> Am 16.03.10 12:43 schrieb "Colin" unter <c...@virgin.net>:
>> Ah, someone after my own heart. Planxty Irwin is a favourite of >> mine too and one of the first tunes I learned to play on HG (yes, >> I have the Planxty tape with it on) usually followed by another >> favourite of sheebeg sheemor (or any of a dozen alternative >> spelling that abound but you know which one I mean) although that >> does require a LOT of octave hopping but I rather like it. >> I do tend to play the more haunting tunes as regards Irish music >> on the HG.
>>> I love to play Planxty Irwin by O’Carolan. You should listen to >>> the band Planxty’s version featuring Andy Irvine on hurdy-gurdy. >>> The wide tonal range may caus problems, but I love to play it on >>> a low G-chanterelle, starting at the high octave and then moving >>> down the scale. Could be worth to try.
>>> Cheers, >>> Uli
>>> Am 16.03.10 07:37 schrieb "Barbara Currier" unter >>> <barbaracurr...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Thank you, Felicia. I thought I'd do O'Sullivan's March, but I >>>> ran out of notes. I'll give this one a try.
>>>> Barbara
>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Felicia Dale >>>> <cruikshan...@pintndale.com> wrote:
>>>>> March of the King of Laois (sp?) is Irish, easy to play and a >>>>> lovely slow march. Atholl Highlanders, while Scottish, is a >>>>> faster march and really good fun to play on gurdy as well. >>>>> William and I play them together as a set and they make for a >>>>> nice pairing.
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