Why an ISM?
asturias
Subject:Why an ISM?
Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
freedoms are negated.
The ability to accept positive aspects of opposing isms.
Freedom to think outside the rituals of your ism for fear of Ostracism.
By consciously avoiding isms we contentedly consider things freely
in a calm manner.So why have an ism? (please no orgism puns)
asturias
George Dance
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> From:asturias(astur...@yahoo.com)
> Subject:Why an ISM?
>
> Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
> evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
"...this-ism, that-ism, ism-ism" (John Lennon, /Give Peace a Chance/)
> Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
> freedoms are negated.
>
> The ability to accept positive aspects of opposing isms.
> Freedom to think outside the rituals of your ism for fear of Ostracism.
>
> By consciously avoiding isms we contentedly consider things freely
> in a calm manner.So why have an ism? (please no orgism puns)
> asturias
Whenever I reason out a belief, I have a new tenet which (while it
could be either true or not) I treat as a true premise in my thinking
and acting. Enough of those tenets, and I have an 'ism.'
Since it's too my advantage to have as many true premises as possible,
it's to my advantage that there are all these other existent 'isms'
that have already done much of the reasoning for me.
Denis Petrov
So what would you prefer? Objectianity? Objectivedom? Objectity? Objectivacy?
Objectery? Objecticracy?
I doubt Ayn Rand intended to make a cult from her philosophy. I think she r
ather
wanted to help us identify things and issues that shatter our integrity.
Denis
asturias
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> So what would you prefer? Objectianity? Objectivedom? Objectity? Objectivacy?
> Objectery? Objecticracy?
>
> I doubt Ayn Rand intended to make a cult from her philosophy. I think she r
> ather
> wanted to help us identify things and issues that shatter our integrity.
>
> Denis
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From: asturias( astur...@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Why an ISM?
"A rose by any other name smells as sweet."
Mackie the odd bot?
We seem to be on different wavelenghts my post was intended to alert
a "subjective" response to the historic effect of "ISMS".
Is it possible an ism impeded your response?
Could you review my post from a subjective angle?
As for Randy Ayn's motives I could not possibly comment.
asturias
asturias
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> "...this-ism, that-ism, ism-ism" (John Lennon, /Give Peace a Chance/)
asturias(astur...@yahoo.com)
Subject:Re:Why an ISM
My understanding of tenet is"doctrine of religious or political belief"
May I respectively suggest you review my post,laying aside those isms.
My post was apolitical and was an attempt to reason subjectively on
the historic effect of failed isms.
asturias
Dave O'Hearn
> Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
> evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
> Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
> freedoms are negated.
Well, people label themselves with "-ist". The correspondending belief
system or movement gets the "-ism". I can't see any freedoms that
become lost, however. It would certainly be annoying to call yourself
some ism-word that is inaccurate, but just don't do that.
> The ability to accept positive aspects of opposing isms.
> Freedom to think outside the rituals of your ism for fear of
> Ostracism.
Oh, that's interesting. Ostracism isn't a belief system held be
ostracists. It is the practice of ostracizing someone. This is also
true of "evangelism" and perhaps "racism" from your list agove. So
"-ism" appears to have at least two uses in English; it may have more
for all I know.
> By consciously avoiding isms we contentedly consider things freely
> in a calm manner. So why have an ism?
It is hard to talk about things without giving them names. If we gave
them non-"-ism" names, it would just be more confusing, as it would be
further from normal English.
> (please no orgism puns)
The word is "orgasm".
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Dave O'Hearn
Dave O'Hearn
> "A rose by any other name smells as sweet."
> Mackie the odd bot?
Yes, Mackie prevents cross-posting. If you don't like it, you can use
APO.
> We seem to be on different wavelenghts my post was intended to alert
> a "subjective" response to the historic effect of "ISMS".
Yes, you do. And Denis Petrov was pointing out that there are many
suffixes words can end in besides "-ism", which mean very similar
things. If you would like to make your point, you are going to have to
make it clearer, because it does not say very much as is.
> Is it possible an ism impeded your response?
This is really not a useful question. Rather than "is it possible
...", if you think it is possible, please say specifically how.
Otherwise, it is *not* possible to answer the question.
> Could you review my post from a subjective angle?
I don't know what that means.
> As for Randy Ayn's motives I could not possibly comment.
"Randy Ayn"? How old are you?
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Dan Lind
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>
> The word is "orgasm".
And the sympathizer with orgasm is known as an Orgast.
There once was an orgastic Orgast
Who lived by her words he had enmassed
"I am a big O,
Her words are just so,
Like a building by Howard they're precast."
Dan Lind
George Dance
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> My understanding of tenet is"doctrine of religious or political belief"
"a doctrine, dogma, or principle held by a group or person." [Oaford
Canadian] May or may not be religious or political. Your tenets give
you your world-view; those of your tenets that deal with personal and
interpersonal conduct, your ideology.
> May I respectively suggest you review my post,laying aside those isms.
> My post was apolitical and was an attempt to reason subjectively on
> the historic effect of failed isms.
I'll reread and re-comment, FWIW.
>
> > > Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
> > > freedoms are negated.
> > >
> > > The ability to accept positive aspects of opposing isms.
> > > Freedom to think outside the rituals of your ism for fear of Ostracism.
> > >
> > > By consciously avoiding isms we contentedly consider things freely
> > > in a calm manner.So why have an ism? (please no orgism puns)
> > > asturias
Maybe you're saying that adopting someone else's ideology or worldview
restricts one's own thinking. which is true, but no argument against
having an ideology or worldview at all. Indeed, as I tried to express
earlier, I don't see how it would be possible for a thinking being to
not have one:
Betsy Speicher
> Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
> evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
> Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
> freedoms are negated.
Not to mention skepticism, agnosticism, and abstract impressionism.
;-) <-- unfortunately required for the humor-impaired among us
Betsy Speicher
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R Lawrence
, Betsy Speicher <be...@speicher.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, asturias wrote:
>
>> Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
>> evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
>> Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
>> freedoms are negated.
>
>Not to mention skepticism, agnosticism, and abstract impressionism.
>
>;-) <-- unfortunately required for the humor-impaired among us
I think I would be remiss if I didn't mention libertarianism and anarchism.
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Richard Lawrence <RL0...@yahoo.com>
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Dan Lind
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> On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, asturias wrote:
>
> > Fascism,racism,hedonism,capitalism,communism,patriotism,nationalism,
> > evangelism,skepticism,militarism,pacifism,liberalism,objectivism...
> > Seems that once a person labels themselves with an "ISM" several
> > freedoms are negated.
>
> Not to mention skepticism, agnosticism, and abstract impressionism.
>
> ;-) <-- unfortunately required for the humor-impaired among us
Don't forget those delightfully entertaining Objectivschisms.
Dan Lind
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Jason Lockwood
> >
> >;-) <-- unfortunately required for the humor-impaired among us
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> I think I would be remiss if I didn't mention libertarianism and
anarchism.
Need I mention KantCartism and Kl-Aynism?
-Jason Lockwood
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asturias(astur...@yahoo.com)
Subject:RE:Why an ism?
Had my wife in hospital,hence this late reply.
Due to the errors in your unrequested edit it
is assumed,or should I say "is it possible you
had been drinking"
asturias
Chris Cathcart
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Dave O'Hearn
> Had my wife in hospital,hence this late reply.
> Due to the errors in your unrequested edit it
> is assumed,or should I say "is it possible you
> had been drinking"
I removed 43 spaces of indentation from the second line of your post.
This is because your post was ugly, and I do not write ugly posts,
even when quoting text. However, I changed not a single word. You
should find more substantive things to complain about. Take that as my
lesson in moral philosophy for today.
--
Dave O'Hearn
asturias
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>
> I removed 43 spaces of indentation from the second line of your post.
> This is because your post was ugly, and I do not write ugly posts,
> even when quoting text. However, I changed not a single word. You
> should find more substantive things to complain about. Take that as my
> lesson in moral philosophy for today.
asturias(astur...@yahoo.com)
"It is better to be silent and thought a fool,
than to open your mouth and leave no doubt"
Your lesson for today,study Megalomania and remember,
When you point your finger at someone,three of your
fingers point back at you,understand?
asturias
Dave O'Hearn
> "It is better to be silent and thought a fool,
> than to open your mouth and leave no doubt"
Why yes, it is.
> Your lesson for today,study Megalomania and remember,
> When you point your finger at someone,three of your
> fingers point back at you,understand?
Deleting your 43 lines of spaces required me to point several fingers
at my keyboard and mouse. None pointed at you.
--
Dave O'Hearn