Pillars of Justice that the US is flushing down the toilet
chazwin
Al Queda 1 America 0
> Pillars of Justice.
> 1) Assumption of Innocence.
> 2) Case should be assed by a jury of your peers.
> 3) Confessions under torture are inadmissible.
> 4) Convictions that rely on confession alone reach unsafe conclusions.
> 5) Trial by media is unjust.
> 6) Illegal detention requires compensation.
THe US people have allowed themsleves to be manipulated into such a
blood lust that they are now all willing to give up what little
protection they enjoy under the law.
Al Queda 2, American 0
Charles Bell
> 9/11
> > Pillars of Justice.
Applies to U.S. citizens and only U.S. citizens or as apportioned by
Congress and only Congress.
chazwin
Wrong. Idiotically wrong. Moronically wrong.
These all appear in the UN charter of Human RIghts to which the USA is
a signatory.
But even it it were not. The 9/11 bombings happened on AMerican soil
and those that are charged, are charged under American law and have to
same rights as anyone else.
If foreign nationals did not enjoy the protection of American law then
no Ambassador or Tourist would ever set foot in the USA.
Charles Bell
> On Nov 14, 6:49�pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 14, 11:12�am, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > 9/11
> > > > Pillars of Justice.
>
> > Applies to U.S. citizens and only U.S. citizens or as apportioned by
> > Congress and only Congress.
>
> Wrong. Idiotically wrong. Moronically wrong.
> These all appear in the UN charter of Human RIghts to which the USA is
> a signatory.
The U.N. charter on Human Rights applies to the rights of citizens
within their own countries.
> But even it it were not. The 9/11 bombings happened on AMerican soil
. . by foreigners at war with the U.S. who, as unprivileged combatants
by the Geneva Conventions, are not afforded any internationally
recognized rights.
You do realize that the bombing of Pearl Harbor happened on American
soil? Right?
> and those that are charged, are charged under American law and have to
> same rights as anyone else.
No, they do not, except as provided by law respecting the rights of
legal aliens, even if the crimes were civilian crimes, as they were
not. By law and by what is just, they have a right to be tried in
military tribunals without appeal to any civilian court.
> If foreign nationals did not enjoy the protection of American law then
> no Ambassador or Tourist would ever set foot in the USA.
Foreign nationals have legal rights, given by Congress, and not the
Constitution, and *usually* the same rights as citizens under most
circumstances, but the very act of issuance of restricted visas
implies aliens as having either legal or illegal status. Believe it or
not, there is no visa available to aliens to commit acts of war.
Aliens committing acts of war are *invaders* and not foreign nationals
gone terribly wrong in their visa-permitted activities.
chazwin
WE HOLD THESE THINGS TO BE SELF EVIDENT .. THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED
EQUAL.
Charles Bell
> WE HOLD THESE THINGS TO BE SELF EVIDENT .. THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED
> EQUAL.
Men? Did you say MEN? What about pre-operation transgendered lesbians?
chazwin
I did not say men, no. The so-called Founding Fathers of the USA said
"men". Are you really that ignorant?
Oh - yeah - you are the halfwit contributing to the GW debate on
another thread -Yeah you ARE that ignorant.
Charles Bell
> On Nov 15, 2:44�pm, Charles Bell <cbel...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 15, 9:04�am, chazwin <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > WE HOLD THESE THINGS TO BE SELF EVIDENT .. THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED
> > > EQUAL.
>
> > Men? Did you say MEN? �What about pre-operation transgendered lesbians?
>
> I did not say men, no.
Yes, you did . . . right up there.
> The so-called Founding Fathers of the USA said
> "men".
Who? Wo-men and black men, too? Yeah, that's right. Nix on the 'mo
men and 'mo wo-men -- yah, mon!
> Are you really that ignorant?
What?
Les Cargill
German has "die, der and das" - female, male and neuter. That got
lost when English transpired, so we have to round that "men" down
to "all of the above").
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Les Cargill
Charles Bell
Die voroperatione transsexuelle Lesbier ist aber Mann oder Frau?
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