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Ray

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Dec 23, 2009, 8:08:17 PM12/23/09
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Communism is. Overheard on Fox this morning.
Dems justifying their healthcare on the grounds that the gov
is responsible for our welfare. That the Commerce Clause
allows them to tax us for it.
The Republican had no idea how to counter that on principle.

Ray

Charles Bell

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:24:17 PM12/23/09
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Actually, Lincoln's Republicans invented the federal government as the
welfare state. Be that as it may, today's Dems are claiming that the
Constitution does not enumerate specific powers to Congress, but
Congress has the power to legislate anything and tax everyone and
every thing for the "general Welfare" as written in Article I section
8 paragraph 1, and so all the words thereafter in Section 8, as well
as IX and X of the Bill of Rights, have no contextual meaning
whatsoever.

Arnold Broese

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:47:06 PM12/23/09
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Responsible in any manner they choose it seems. So now it seems, the right
to *pursue* happiness, means the government has the authority to force it on
us. How they twist things to their purpose. They get away with it because
opponents literally don't have an idea to counter with.

--
Arnold

Charles Bell

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:15:09 AM12/24/09
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On Dec 23, 10:47�pm, Arnold Broese <arnold_broeseREM...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Responsible in any manner they choose it seems. So now it seems, the right
> to *pursue* happiness, means the government has the authority to force it on
> us.

And you suppose coercion into medical plans is "happiness" for anyone
so coerced? The Democrats are activiely engaged in aggression against
the American people. The Republicans are not. Please discern the
difference.

> How they twist things to their purpose. They get away with it because
> opponents literally don't have an idea to counter with.

Really? The opposing Republicans, as a Party, were quite clear that if
there were uninsured who needed insurance, tax-relief was in order.
The Democrat plan is about the naked used of coercion against the
American people and not about finding ways to insured the uninsured,
most of whom will still be uninsured after implementation in four
years and all of whom will be uninsured for four years. In no way,
shape or form was this or would be a GOP plan which ideally, as they
are often considered to advocate, ought to be to have the federal
government do absolutely nothing and even force the government to do
less.

RichD

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Dec 29, 2009, 6:54:05 PM12/29/09
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What counter is possible? Any 'counter' involves
thousands of words, abstract concepts, history,
constitution... 3 digit IQ, logical thought, attention span...

"We're from the gov't, we'll give you everything you want!"
Fits in a 15 second bite.

The desire for a free lunch is so deep, so strong, people
will suspend all reason. Statists - and every con man -
exploits this. Everybody loves Santa Claus, nobody loves
the Grinch.

Honest men cannot win, we can only try to slow the tide...

--
RIch

Malrassic Park

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:57:21 PM12/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:54:05 -0800, RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Ray wrote:
>> Communism is. Overheard on Fox this morning.
>> Dems justifying their healthcare on the grounds that the gov
>> is responsible for our welfare. That the Commerce Clause
>> allows them to tax us for it.
>> The Republican had no idea how to counter that on principle.
>
>What counter is possible? Any 'counter' involves
>thousands of words,

Ok.

> abstract concepts,

Ok.

> history,

Ok.

>constitution...

Ok...

3 digit IQ,

Ok.


Wait.

3... digit... IQ?????

> logical thought, attention span...

Puppet_Sock

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:00:03 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 29, 4:57�pm, Malrassic Park <malen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> Wait.
>
> 3... digit... IQ?????

An IQ of 100 is "average." Thus, three digits of IQ or more is
anything not below average. This is supposed to apply only
to adults. There is a different set of rules for child development.
Socks

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