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>> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neonpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Well, they were Elizabethans and the Elizabethans
>>> were kind of barbaric. Except Bacon. Bacon was nEVERE
>>> cruel. He was kind like his foster brother Anthony.
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon
>
>> <<Bacon soon became acquainted with Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of
>> Essex, Queen Elizabeth's favourite. By 1591, he acted as the earl's
>> confidential adviser. When the Attorney-Generalship fell vacant in
>> 1594, Lord Essex's influence was not enough to secure Bacon that
>> office. Likewise, Bacon failed to secure the lesser office of
>> Solicitor-General in 1595. To console him for these disappointments,
>> Essex presented him with a property at Twickenham, which he sold
>> subsequently for 1,800.
>
>> [In 1601] Bacon was appointed to investigate the charges against
>> Essex, *his former friend and benefactor* . A number of Essex's
>> followers confessed that Essex had planned a rebellion against the
>> Queen. Bacon was subsequently a part of the legal team headed by
>> Attorney General Sir Edward Coke at Essex's treason trial. After the
>> execution, the Queen ordered Bacon to write the official government
>> account of the trial, which was later published as _A DECLARATION
>> of the Practices and Treasons attempted and committed by Robert
>> late Earle of Essex and his Complices, against her Majestie
>> and her Kingdoms_.>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neonpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I guess Art was born to like Oxford. Nobody else does.
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> *TOM CECIL* (1542-1622) - the onlie man
>> ___ to vote for Oxford into the order of the Garter.
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> HoweVER, according to Aubrey's account of Oxford, one can be
> pretty confident that Oxford would have been elected
> by unanimous acclamation to the Order of the Farter.
"Honi soit qui mal y pense"
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <<and Sancho, examining him more and more closely, exclaimed
>> . aloud in a voice of amazement, "Holy Mary be good to me!
>> .
>> . Isn't it *TOM CECIL*, my neighbour and gossip?"
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> The character in _Don QuiXOte_ is Tom Cecial, Art, not Tom Cecil.
> The two have nothing whateVER to do with one another.
.............................................
Tom Cecial (Tom=E9 Cecial),
a neighbor of Sancho and the squire of Sans=F3n Carrasco,
when he is disguised as "The Knight of the Mirrors".
.............................................
Tom Cecil <=3D> Tom Ceci(A)l
One simply has to remove "A pictogram of an ox head" : *A*.
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A
<<The earliest certain ancestor of "A" is aleph,
the first letter of the Phoenician alphabet.
The origin of aleph may have been a pictogram
of an ox head in Egyptian hieroglyphs.>>
-------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Presidents of the Council of the NORTH
>> ..................................................
>>http://tudorhistory.org/calendar/gtitles.html
>> .
>> 1530-1533 Cuthbert Tunstall, Bishop of Durham
>> .
>> 1533-1536 Henry Percy, Earl of NORTHumberland
>> 1536-1537 Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk
>> .
>> 1537-1538 Cuthbert Tunstall, Bishop of Durham
>> 1538-1540 Robert Holgate, Bishop of Llandaff
>> 1550-1560 Francis Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury
>> 1561-1563 Henry Manners, Earl of Rutland
>> 1564-1564 Ambrose Dudley, Earl of Warwick
>> 1564-1568 Thomas Young, Archbishop of York
>> 1568-1572 Thomas Radcliffe, Earl of Sussex
>> 1572-1595 Henry Hastings, Earl of Huntingdon
>> 1596-1599 Matthew Hutton, Archbishop of York
>> ..........................................
>> 1599-1603 *THOMAS CECIL* , Lord Burghley
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> So? Was there supposed to have been any point to the above list,
>
> Art?
---------------------------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXEOOanoelbU
<<"North of Shakespeare," written by the acclaimed scholar-author of
the Oxford University Press science book, "Here Be Dragons", exposes
extraordinary, documented information that is now revolutionizing
everything we thought we knew about Shakespeare. Specifically, a
thorough analysis of seven rare documents has unambiguously confirmed
that the impoverished, war-weary scholar-knight, Sir Thomas North, was
the one who actually penned the original "Shakespearean" masterpieces
and that Shakespeare had merely adapted North's plays for the public
stage. Moreover, a careful examination of the actual title pages of
the dramas published while Shakespeare was alive and even up until
1620 -- combined with a study of all relevant comments from his
contemporaries -- reconfirms this same fact. Yes, everyone knew
exactly what Shakespeare wrote; yes, all the title pages printed
during his lifetime are correct, and yes, Shakespeare wrote everything
clearly attributed to him while he was alive, but as we shall see:
Most of the plays attributed to Shakespeare during his lifetime and
even up until 1620 are not the same plays that everyone thinks he
wrote!
The true story of North and Shakespeare, unlike all other speculations
over authorship, whether put forth by orthodox scholars or intelligent
dissidents, is devoid of all conspiracies, hypothetical behind-the-
scenes-intrigue, or outlandish and dastardly motives. What remains is
one exceedingly simple explanation, confirmed repeatedly by numerous
documents and multiple lines of evidence, that unknots confusion,
settles the paradoxes, and, once and for all, solves the mystery of
Shakespeare.
With Dennis McCarthy's first book, "Here Be Dragons / How the Study of
Animal and Plant Distributions Revolutionized Our Views of Life and
Earth" (Oxford UP, 2009), many reviewers highlighted the book's power
to transform the way we see the world: "The Huffington Post" described
it as "a grand time-and-space voyage of the imagination," concluding
that "at the end of the book you will be someone different." "Science
News" referred to the work as "fascinating and revelatory." And
"Science Magazine" declared, "[W]e will never look at the world in the
same way again." McCarthy has also published revealing papers in the
leading journals of English literature, geophysics, and biogeography.
In a 2007 paper for "The Journal of Geophysical Research," McCarthy
became the first researcher to provide the correct explanation for the
global distribution of continents and oceans. This became the subject
of a number of major news reports around the globe, and "Der Spiegel"
noted that the "study surprises the professional world." More
recently, McCarthy's 2009 paper for Oxford's "Notes and Queries" was
the first to identify the long-sought source for Hamlet's famous "To
be or not to be" soliloquy. McCarthy will now transform our view of
Shakespeare in the same way that his past works have helped change our
views on the history of life and Earth. In brief, "North of
Shakespeare" presents nothing less than the first major global
intellectual revolution in the past half century.>>
---------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> . Mary CHEKE --- William Cecil --- Mildred Cooke
>> . | {Burghley} | (Francis Bacon's aunt)
>> . | (1520-98) |
>> . | Anne Cecil---Edward deVere
>> . | {Oxford} (1550-1604)
>> . | (1st Cousin to Suffolk's dad)
>> . |
>> {Exeter} *TOM CECIL* --- Dorothy *NEVILLE*
>> . (1542-1622)
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Huh? What is your point, Art, if any?
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Falst. Peace good *pint-pot* , peace good tickle-braine.
. Harrie, I doe not onelie maruaile where thou spendest thy
. time, but also how thou art accompanied. For though the
. cammomill the [M]ore it is t[R]oden on, th[E] faster it [G]rowes:
. so y[O]uth the mo[R]e it is wasted, the soo{N}er it wear{E}s:
. that tho{U} art my son {I} haue part{L}y thy moth{E}rs
. worde, partlie my owne opinion, but chieflie a villainous
. tricke of thine eye, and a foolish hanging of thy neather
. lippe, that dooth warrant me. If then thou bee sonne to mee,
. heere lies the poynt, why beeing sonne to me, art thou
. so pointed at? shal the blessed sunne of heauen proue a mi-
. cher, and eat black-berries? a question not to be askt. Shall the
. sonne of England proue a theefe, and take purses? a question to
. be askt. There is a thing Harry, which thou hast often heard of,
. and it is knowne to many in our land by the name of pitch. This
. pitch (as ancient writers do report) doth defile, so doth the com-
. panie thou keepest: for Harrie now, I do not speake to thee in
. drinke, but in teares; not in pleasure but in passion: not in
. words onely, but in woes also: and yet there is a vertuous man,
. whom I haue often noted in thy companie, but I know not his name.
...............................................
____ <=3D 9 =3D>
. c a m m o m i l l
. t h e [M] o r e i t
. i s t [R] o d e n o
. n,t h [E] f a s t e
. r i t [G] r o w e s:
. s o y [O] u t h t h
. e m o [R] e i t i s
. w a s {T} e d,t h e
. s o o {N} e r i t w
. e a r {E} s:t h a t
. t h o {U} a r t m y
. s o n {I} h a u e p
. a r t {L} y t h y m
. o t h {E} r s w o r d e
{T.NEUILE} 9 Prob. in speech skip < 10 ~ 1 in 7000
[ROGER M] -9 Prob. in speech skip < 10 ~ 1 in 6400
..............................................................
Young Hal / "Harrie" ? :
[ROGER M]anners, 5th Earl of Rutland (6 Oct. 1576 =96 26 June 1612)
Falstaff ? : {T}homas {NEVILE} (1544 =96 10 July 1614)
................................................................
Thomas's twin? : Alexander Neville (1544=961614) English scholar
Sir Henry Neville (1564 =96 10 July 1615) "Falstaff?"
------------------------------------------------------------
{T.NEVILE} kneeling on two toned cushion with tassels:
..........................................
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2636709
http://www.hollowaypages.com/images/STRATF.JPG
---------------------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <<"Isn't it odd, senor, that I have still before my eyes
>> that *MONSTROUS enormous NOSE* of my gossip, Tom Cecial?"
>> "And dost thou, then, believe, Sancho," said Don Quixote,
>> "that the Knight of the Mirrors was the bachelor
>> Carrasco, and his squire Tom Cecial thy gossip?">>
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why you think that the above passage
> is in any way relevant, or indeed what may you have in mind (such as it
> is), but if you are intimating that the Knight of the Mirrors who
> conceals his identity is Oxford, then you may have a point for once, Art
> -- "ser de carrasca" is a Spanish idiom meaning "to be absolutely
> awful", and contemporary accounts confirm that Oxford was absolutely
> awful at pretty much eVERything he undertook.
-----------------------------------------------------
. "to be absolutely *OFFAL*"
.....................................................
. The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 3, Scene 5
FALSTAFF: Go fetch me a quart of *SACK*; put a toast in't.
. [Exit BARDOLPH]
. Have I lived to be carried in a basket, like a
. barrow of *BUTCHER'S OFFAL* , and to be thrown in the
. Thames? Well, if I be sERVED such another trick,
. I'll have my brains *TA'EN* out and buttered, and give
. them to a dog for a new-year's gift. The rogues
. slighted me into the river with as little remorse as
. they would have drowned a blind bitch's puppies,
--------------------------------------------------------
___ Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 3, Scene 4
Ham. It will b{U}t skin and filme the vlcerous p(L)ace
. Whiles ranc{K} corruption mining all within
. (I)nfects *UNS[E]ENE* {C}onfesse you[R] selfe to heauen,
. R[E]pent what's past, {A|V]oyd what is to com[E],
. And doe not sprea[D] the compo{S}t on *TH[E] WEEDes*
. To make them rancker, forgiue me t{H}is *MY VERtuE*,
. For in the fatnesse of these pursie {T}imes
. *VERtuE* it selfe of vice must *PARDON* beg,
. Yea curbe and wooe for leaue to doe him good.
...........................................
_______ <=3D 41 =3D>
I t*W I L L*b{U}tskinandfilme[T]h e v l c e rouspLaceWhil
e s r a[N]c{K}c orruptionmini n g[A]l l w i thinInfectsvn
s E e n[E|C}o n fesseyouRself e t o h[E]a u enREpentwhats
p a s t{A}V o y dwhatistocomE A n d d o e[N]otspreaDtheco
m p o{S|T]o n t hEweedesTomak e t h e m r a nckerforgiuem
e t{H}i s M Y V ERtuEForinthe f a t n e s s eofthesepursi
e{T}i m e s V E RtuEitselfeof v i c e m u s tPARDONbeg
{TH.SACKU.} -40
[NEAT] 41, -43
.......................................................
A [NEAT] monument of that famous English Poet,
Mr. WILLiam Shakespeere; who was borne heere.
And one of an old Gentleman a Batchelor, Mr. Combe,
upon whose name, the sayd Poet, did merrily fann
up some witty, and facetious verses, which
time would nott give us leave {To SACKE U}p .
- [Chambers, William Shakespeare, II, 242]
-----------------------------------------------------
PUTTENHAM's (Conspiracy) List of Noble poets:
..................................................
1) Edward, Earl of Oxford (1550-1604)
2) {TH}omas {SACKV}ille, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
. - Grand Master Freemason (1561-1567)
. {Stone Guild =3D> Guildensteen}
-------------------------------------------------
First published Shake-speare use of "TEST" :
...............................................
. Hamlet (1604 Q2) Act 3, Scene 4
.
Gertrude: This is the *VERy COYNAGE* of your braine,
. This bodilesse creation extacie is *VERy cunning* in.
.
Hamlet: My pulse as yours doth temperatly keepe time,
. And makes as healthfull m(U)sicke, it is not madnesse
. That I haue vttr(E)d, *bring me to the TEST* ,
. And the matter *Will reWO(R)D* , which madnesse
. Would gambole from, mother f(O)r loue of grace,
. Lay not tha[T] fl[A]tt[E]ri[N]g vnction to your soule
. That not your trespasse but my madnesse speakes,
. It will but skin and filme the vlcerous place
. Whiles RANCK corruption mining all within
...................................................
. Infects VNS[E]ENE , confesse you[R] selfe to heauen,
. R[E]pent what's past, a[V]oyd what is to com[E],
. And doe no{T} sprea[D] the c{O}mpost on th[E] {W}EEDES
. To mak{E} them RANCK(E|R}, forgiue me this my ve(R)tue,
. For in the fatness(E) of these pursie times
. (V)ertue it selfe of vice *must pardon beg* ,
. Yea curbe and wooe for leaue to doe him good.
...................................................
. <=3D 15 =3D>
.
. I n f e c t s*U N S[E]E N E*c o n f
. e s f e s s e y o u[R]s e l f e t o
. h e o h e a u e n R[E]p e n t w h a
. t s a t s p a s t a[V]o y d w h a t
. i s t i s t o c o m[E]A n d d o e n
. o T n o T s p r e a[D]t h e c O m p
. o s p o s t o n t h[E|W E E D E S}
.
[NEAT] -3 Prob. ~1 in 8
(UERO) 20
.................................
[EDEVERE] -15 James Ferris find
{ http://www.drjsferris.com }
The probability of finding [E.DE VERE] with
a Skip of 15 or less in Hamlet Q2 ~ 1 in 40.
--------------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> __________ *THOMA(s) SNOUT* , tinker
>> __________ {anagram}
>> __________ *SOUTHAM(p)TON*
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> That's not an anagram, Art: "Thomas Snout" has two occurrences of the
> letter "s", while "Southampton" has only one. MoreoVER, "Southampton"
> has an occurrence of the letter "p", while "Thomas Snout" has none.
>
> This is not rocket science, Art -- all that is needed is the ability
> to count to two; indeed, even the ability to count to one would have
> sufficed in this instance, as counting occurrences of "p"
> refutes your contention conclusively.
"S" can stand for just about any letter:
------------------------------------------------
__ *NIL VERO-VERIU(S)*
__ *OUR EVER-LIVIN(G)*
.............................................
__ *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
__ *NIL VE(r)O-VERIUS*
---------------------------------------------
(or Vise Versa):
.............................................
- The Phoenix and the Turtle
.
LET the bird of loudest lay,
On the sole Arabian tree,
Herald sad and trumpet be,
To whose sound cha[S]te wings obey.
But tho[U] shrieking harbinge[R],
Foul precurrer of th[E] fiend,
Augur of the *FE[V]ER'S* end,
To this troup{E COME} thou not near!
...................................
______ <=3D 18 =3D>
.
. L e t t h e b i r d o f l o u d e s
. t l a y O n t h e s o l e A r a b i
. a n t r e e H e r a l d s a d a n d
. t r u m p e t b e T o w h o s e s o
. u n d c h a[S]t e w i n g s o b e y
_ B u t t h o[U]s h r i e k i n g h a
_ r b i n g e[R]F o u l p r e c u r r
__e r o f t h[E]f i e n d A u g u r o
__f t h e f e[V]E R s e n d T o t h i
. s t r o u p{E[C O M E(t} h o u n o t
. n e a r
.
Prob. of *EVERUS* ~ 1/12,240 (any skip)
..............................................
. {E}douardus *VERUS* , [COME(s] Oxoniae,
. Vicecomes Bulbeck, Dominus de Scales
. & Badlismer, D. Magnus Angliae Ca-
. merarius: Lectori. S. D.
---------------------------------------------
Final Thomas Sheldon/Thomas Cecial paragraph:
<<Don Quixote helped him to rise, and Thomas Cecial his squire, on
whom Sancho still cast his eyes, asking him questions, whose answers
gave him manifest signs that he was Thomas Cecial indeed, as he said;
but the apprehension that was made in Sancho by what his master had
said, that the enchanters had changed the form of the Knight of the
Glasses into Samson Carrasco’s, made him not believe wha[T] he saw
with [H]is eyes. To c[O]nclude, the [M]aster and m[A]n remained
[S]till in their error; and he of the Glasses and his squire, very
moody and ill errants, left Don Quixote, purposing to seek some town
where he might cerecloth himself, and settle his ribs. Don Quixote and
Sancho held on their way to Saragosa, where the story leaves them, to
tell who was the Knight of the Glasses and his nosy squire.>>
............................
___ <= 10 =>
. {W} h a [T] h e s a w w
. {I} t h [H] i s e y e s.
. {T} o c [O] n c l u d e,
. {T} h e [M] a s t e r a
. n d m [A] n r e m a i
. n e d [S] t i l l i n
. t h e {I} r e r r o r
. a n d {H} e o f t h e
. G l a {S} s e s a n d
his squire, very moody and ill errants
[THOMAS {IHS}] THOMAS Skip <11 {675,000}
-----------------------------------------
# finds in skips from ±2 to ±1001
..................................
String NT OT Moby Dick (4,150,000,000)
-------------------------------------------
TOMSWIFT .09 .16 .08 (1 in 12,600,000,000)
O(ROGER)M .45 1.4 1.6 (1 in 1,200,000,000)
...........................
SPENSER 4 13 10 (1 in 154,000,000)
LDERBY 5 17 6 (1 in 148,000,000)
STRANGE 7 17 9 (1 in 126,000,000)
SDANIEL 7 27 12 (1 in 90,000,000)
ROGERM 15 56 20 (1 in 45,600,000)
..............................................
EREVERE
EREVEER 11 29 10 (1 in 41,000,000)
REEVEER
..............................................
EVERUS 24 63 28 (1 in 36,000,000)
BACONO/I 25 73 44
STANLEE 28 110 42 (1 in 23,000,000)
WSTANL 44 124 67 (1 in 17,700,000)
SIDNEY 57 131 50 (1 in 17,400,000)
FEEBLE 38 178 56 (1 in 17,000,000)
...........................
MASONS 60 174 85 (1 in 13,000,000)
DEVERE 81 259 65 (1 in 10,250,000)
DEVEER 76 252 62
EDEVER 79 245 78
ESPENS 83 241 160 (1 in 8,600,000)
...........................
HARRIS 95 365 145 (1 in 6,900,000)
THOMAS 114 396 116 (1 in 6,750,000)
EVEREO 121 372 125 (1 in 6,700,000)
DERBY 130 439 159 (1 in 5,700,000)
SHREWE 141 417 159 (1 in 5,700,000)
DANIEL 115 461 166 (1 in 5,600,000)
SIDNEI 138 445 199 (1 in 5,300,000)
VERUS 175 473 220 (1 in 4,800,000)
MARYS 208 583 260 (1 in 4,000,000)
BACON 183 579 294 (1 in 3,900,000)
GREENE 190 626 281 (1 in 3,800,000)
DEUEER 210 662 228
DEUERE 219 679 223
ARAISE 229 823 420
OXIN 238 678 706 (1 in 2,600,000)
...........................
EHOBY 374 1087 338 (1 in 2,310,000)
SWEETE 483 1112 507
UERUS 475 1235 648
HENRIE 455 1541 477 (1 in 1,680,000)
MARLO 393 1638 644 (1 in 1,550,000)
TNASHE 521 1941 528 (1 in 1,400,000)
SHAKE 455 1950 692 (1 in 1,340,000)
OXEN 506 1430 1258 (1 in 1,300,000)
SPENS 617 1901 1276 (1 in 1,280,000)
ROGER 673 2250 1061 (1 in 1,040,000)
SPEAR 635 2210 1250 (1 in 1,000,000)
TALUS 704 2530 1172 (1 in 942,000)
...........................
HIRAM 833 2881 898 (1 in 900,000)
MARIH 833 2881 898 (1 in 900,000)
...........................
SEVEN 1030 3002 1164 (1 in 800,000)
SCANT 933 2733 1545 (1 in 796,000)
MASON 955 3193 1270 (1 in 766,000)
ESLEY 984 3469 1444
HENRY 1160 3598 1007 (1 in 720,000)
SHREW 1211 3238 1299
EDYER 1185 3610 1091 (1 in 705,000)
PHEON 1086 3780 1386 (1 in 664,000)
EVERE 1697 4951 1773 (1 in 493,000)
EVEER 1697 4951 1773 (1 in 493,000)
...........................
STEAM 2361 7502 2819 (1 in 327,000)
TALOS 1842 7763 3117 (1 in 326,000)
NAILE 2319 9169 3990
OSIER 2716 8638 4192
WILL 2875 9881 6005
HENRI 3490 12107 3891 (1 in 213,000)
EUERE 4438 13711 5236
...........................
IOTHE 7291 24236 6915 (1 in 108,000)
DYER 8908 28748 8808 (1 in 89,000)
SLEY 8033 27050 12240 (1 in 88,000)
ROPE 9393 33352 16214
VERE 12696 39502 13996 (1 in 63,000)
ISAM 11803 36950 17292 (1 in 63,000)
MOAI 14308 46266 18452 (1 in 52,500)
SHENE 17400 57040 17220
HEWS 24146 61081 23593
UERO 20058 63511 25241
IDLE 19024 74864 28064
HEBE 31570 106235 32757
UERE 34713 107114 42928 (1 in 22,500)
STAR 35382 128800 51500 (1 in 19,200)
HEIR 50855 175350 56576 (1 in 14,700)
TEST 109930 354217 131111 (1 in 7,000)
-----------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
>
>>> Well, they were Elizabethans and the Elizabethans
>>> were kind of barbaric. Except Bacon. Bacon was nEVERE
>>> cruel. He was kind like his foster brother Anthony.
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon
>
>> <<Bacon soon became acquainted with Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of
>> Essex, Queen Elizabeth's favourite. By 1591, he acted as the earl's
>> confidential adviser. When the Attorney-Generalship fell vacant in
>> 1594, Lord Essex's influence was not enough to secure Bacon that
>> office. Likewise, Bacon failed to secure the lesser office of
>> Solicitor-General in 1595. To console him for these disappointments,
>> Essex presented him with a property at Twickenham, which he sold
>> subsequently for 1,800.
>
>> [In 1601] Bacon was appointed to investigate the charges against
>> Essex, *his former friend and benefactor* . A number of Essex's
>> followers confessed that Essex had planned a rebellion against the
>> Queen. Bacon was subsequently a part of the legal team headed by
>> Attorney General Sir Edward Coke at Essex's treason trial. After the
>> execution, the Queen ordered Bacon to write the official government
>> account of the trial, which was later published as _A DECLARATION
>> of the Practices and Treasons attempted and committed by Robert
>> late Earle of Essex and his Complices, against her Majestie
>> and her Kingdoms_.>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> "neonprose @ gmail.com" <neonpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I guess Art was born to like Oxford. Nobody else does.
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> *TOM CECIL* (1542-1622) - the onlie man
>> ___ to vote for Oxford into the order of the Garter.
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> HoweVER, according to Aubrey's account of Oxford, one can be
> pretty confident that Oxford would have been elected
> by unanimous acclamation to the Order of the Farter.
"Honi soit qui mal y pense"
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <<and Sancho, examining him more and more closely, exclaimed
>> . aloud in a voice of amazement, "Holy Mary be good to me!
>> .
>> . Isn't it *TOM CECIL*, my neighbour and gossip?"
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> The character in _Don QuiXOte_ is Tom Cecial, Art, not Tom Cecil.
> The two have nothing whateVER to do with one another.
.............................................
Tom Cecial (Tom=E9 Cecial),
a neighbor of Sancho and the squire of Sans=F3n Carrasco,
when he is disguised as "The Knight of the Mirrors".
.............................................
Tom Cecil <=3D> Tom Ceci(A)l
One simply has to remove "A pictogram of an ox head" : *A*.
-------------------------------------------------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A
<<The earliest certain ancestor of "A" is aleph,
the first letter of the Phoenician alphabet.
The origin of aleph may have been a pictogram
of an ox head in Egyptian hieroglyphs.>>
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> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Presidents of the Council of the NORTH
>> ..................................................
>>http://tudorhistory.org/calendar/gtitles.html
>> .
>> 1530-1533 Cuthbert Tunstall, Bishop of Durham
>> .
>> 1533-1536 Henry Percy, Earl of NORTHumberland
>> 1536-1537 Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk
>> .
>> 1537-1538 Cuthbert Tunstall, Bishop of Durham
>> 1538-1540 Robert Holgate, Bishop of Llandaff
>> 1550-1560 Francis Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury
>> 1561-1563 Henry Manners, Earl of Rutland
>> 1564-1564 Ambrose Dudley, Earl of Warwick
>> 1564-1568 Thomas Young, Archbishop of York
>> 1568-1572 Thomas Radcliffe, Earl of Sussex
>> 1572-1595 Henry Hastings, Earl of Huntingdon
>> 1596-1599 Matthew Hutton, Archbishop of York
>> ..........................................
>> 1599-1603 *THOMAS CECIL* , Lord Burghley
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> So? Was there supposed to have been any point to the above list,
>
> Art?
---------------------------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXEOOanoelbU
<<"North of Shakespeare," written by the acclaimed scholar-author of
the Oxford University Press science book, "Here Be Dragons", exposes
extraordinary, documented information that is now revolutionizing
everything we thought we knew about Shakespeare. Specifically, a
thorough analysis of seven rare documents has unambiguously confirmed
that the impoverished, war-weary scholar-knight, Sir Thomas North, was
the one who actually penned the original "Shakespearean" masterpieces
and that Shakespeare had merely adapted North's plays for the public
stage. Moreover, a careful examination of the actual title pages of
the dramas published while Shakespeare was alive and even up until
1620 -- combined with a study of all relevant comments from his
contemporaries -- reconfirms this same fact. Yes, everyone knew
exactly what Shakespeare wrote; yes, all the title pages printed
during his lifetime are correct, and yes, Shakespeare wrote everything
clearly attributed to him while he was alive, but as we shall see:
Most of the plays attributed to Shakespeare during his lifetime and
even up until 1620 are not the same plays that everyone thinks he
wrote!
The true story of North and Shakespeare, unlike all other speculations
over authorship, whether put forth by orthodox scholars or intelligent
dissidents, is devoid of all conspiracies, hypothetical behind-the-
scenes-intrigue, or outlandish and dastardly motives. What remains is
one exceedingly simple explanation, confirmed repeatedly by numerous
documents and multiple lines of evidence, that unknots confusion,
settles the paradoxes, and, once and for all, solves the mystery of
Shakespeare.
With Dennis McCarthy's first book, "Here Be Dragons / How the Study of
Animal and Plant Distributions Revolutionized Our Views of Life and
Earth" (Oxford UP, 2009), many reviewers highlighted the book's power
to transform the way we see the world: "The Huffington Post" described
it as "a grand time-and-space voyage of the imagination," concluding
that "at the end of the book you will be someone different." "Science
News" referred to the work as "fascinating and revelatory." And
"Science Magazine" declared, "[W]e will never look at the world in the
same way again." McCarthy has also published revealing papers in the
leading journals of English literature, geophysics, and biogeography.
In a 2007 paper for "The Journal of Geophysical Research," McCarthy
became the first researcher to provide the correct explanation for the
global distribution of continents and oceans. This became the subject
of a number of major news reports around the globe, and "Der Spiegel"
noted that the "study surprises the professional world." More
recently, McCarthy's 2009 paper for Oxford's "Notes and Queries" was
the first to identify the long-sought source for Hamlet's famous "To
be or not to be" soliloquy. McCarthy will now transform our view of
Shakespeare in the same way that his past works have helped change our
views on the history of life and Earth. In brief, "North of
Shakespeare" presents nothing less than the first major global
intellectual revolution in the past half century.>>
---------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> . Mary CHEKE --- William Cecil --- Mildred Cooke
>> . | {Burghley} | (Francis Bacon's aunt)
>> . | (1520-98) |
>> . | Anne Cecil---Edward deVere
>> . | {Oxford} (1550-1604)
>> . | (1st Cousin to Suffolk's dad)
>> . |
>> {Exeter} *TOM CECIL* --- Dorothy *NEVILLE*
>> . (1542-1622)
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Huh? What is your point, Art, if any?
-------------------------------------------------------------
Falst. Peace good *pint-pot* , peace good tickle-braine.
. Harrie, I doe not onelie maruaile where thou spendest thy
. time, but also how thou art accompanied. For though the
. cammomill the [M]ore it is t[R]oden on, th[E] faster it [G]rowes:
. so y[O]uth the mo[R]e it is wasted, the soo{N}er it wear{E}s:
. that tho{U} art my son {I} haue part{L}y thy moth{E}rs
. worde, partlie my owne opinion, but chieflie a villainous
. tricke of thine eye, and a foolish hanging of thy neather
. lippe, that dooth warrant me. If then thou bee sonne to mee,
. heere lies the poynt, why beeing sonne to me, art thou
. so pointed at? shal the blessed sunne of heauen proue a mi-
. cher, and eat black-berries? a question not to be askt. Shall the
. sonne of England proue a theefe, and take purses? a question to
. be askt. There is a thing Harry, which thou hast often heard of,
. and it is knowne to many in our land by the name of pitch. This
. pitch (as ancient writers do report) doth defile, so doth the com-
. panie thou keepest: for Harrie now, I do not speake to thee in
. drinke, but in teares; not in pleasure but in passion: not in
. words onely, but in woes also: and yet there is a vertuous man,
. whom I haue often noted in thy companie, but I know not his name.
...............................................
____ <=3D 9 =3D>
. c a m m o m i l l
. t h e [M] o r e i t
. i s t [R] o d e n o
. n,t h [E] f a s t e
. r i t [G] r o w e s:
. s o y [O] u t h t h
. e m o [R] e i t i s
. w a s {T} e d,t h e
. s o o {N} e r i t w
. e a r {E} s:t h a t
. t h o {U} a r t m y
. s o n {I} h a u e p
. a r t {L} y t h y m
. o t h {E} r s w o r d e
{T.NEUILE} 9 Prob. in speech skip < 10 ~ 1 in 7000
[ROGER M] -9 Prob. in speech skip < 10 ~ 1 in 6400
..............................................................
Young Hal / "Harrie" ? :
[ROGER M]anners, 5th Earl of Rutland (6 Oct. 1576 =96 26 June 1612)
Falstaff ? : {T}homas {NEVILE} (1544 =96 10 July 1614)
................................................................
Thomas's twin? : Alexander Neville (1544=961614) English scholar
Sir Henry Neville (1564 =96 10 July 1615) "Falstaff?"
------------------------------------------------------------
{T.NEVILE} kneeling on two toned cushion with tassels:
..........................................
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2636709
http://www.hollowaypages.com/images/STRATF.JPG
---------------------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <<"Isn't it odd, senor, that I have still before my eyes
>> that *MONSTROUS enormous NOSE* of my gossip, Tom Cecial?"
>> "And dost thou, then, believe, Sancho," said Don Quixote,
>> "that the Knight of the Mirrors was the bachelor
>> Carrasco, and his squire Tom Cecial thy gossip?">>
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why you think that the above passage
> is in any way relevant, or indeed what may you have in mind (such as it
> is), but if you are intimating that the Knight of the Mirrors who
> conceals his identity is Oxford, then you may have a point for once, Art
> -- "ser de carrasca" is a Spanish idiom meaning "to be absolutely
> awful", and contemporary accounts confirm that Oxford was absolutely
> awful at pretty much eVERything he undertook.
-----------------------------------------------------
. "to be absolutely *OFFAL*"
.....................................................
. The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 3, Scene 5
FALSTAFF: Go fetch me a quart of *SACK*; put a toast in't.
. [Exit BARDOLPH]
. Have I lived to be carried in a basket, like a
. barrow of *BUTCHER'S OFFAL* , and to be thrown in the
. Thames? Well, if I be sERVED such another trick,
. I'll have my brains *TA'EN* out and buttered, and give
. them to a dog for a new-year's gift. The rogues
. slighted me into the river with as little remorse as
. they would have drowned a blind bitch's puppies,
--------------------------------------------------------
___ Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 3, Scene 4
Ham. It will b{U}t skin and filme the vlcerous p(L)ace
. Whiles ranc{K} corruption mining all within
. (I)nfects *UNS[E]ENE* {C}onfesse you[R] selfe to heauen,
. R[E]pent what's past, {A|V]oyd what is to com[E],
. And doe not sprea[D] the compo{S}t on *TH[E] WEEDes*
. To make them rancker, forgiue me t{H}is *MY VERtuE*,
. For in the fatnesse of these pursie {T}imes
. *VERtuE* it selfe of vice must *PARDON* beg,
. Yea curbe and wooe for leaue to doe him good.
...........................................
_______ <=3D 41 =3D>
I t*W I L L*b{U}tskinandfilme[T]h e v l c e rouspLaceWhil
e s r a[N]c{K}c orruptionmini n g[A]l l w i thinInfectsvn
s E e n[E|C}o n fesseyouRself e t o h[E]a u enREpentwhats
p a s t{A}V o y dwhatistocomE A n d d o e[N]otspreaDtheco
m p o{S|T]o n t hEweedesTomak e t h e m r a nckerforgiuem
e t{H}i s M Y V ERtuEForinthe f a t n e s s eofthesepursi
e{T}i m e s V E RtuEitselfeof v i c e m u s tPARDONbeg
{TH.SACKU.} -40
[NEAT] 41, -43
.......................................................
A [NEAT] monument of that famous English Poet,
Mr. WILLiam Shakespeere; who was borne heere.
And one of an old Gentleman a Batchelor, Mr. Combe,
upon whose name, the sayd Poet, did merrily fann
up some witty, and facetious verses, which
time would nott give us leave {To SACKE U}p .
- [Chambers, William Shakespeare, II, 242]
-----------------------------------------------------
PUTTENHAM's (Conspiracy) List of Noble poets:
..................................................
1) Edward, Earl of Oxford (1550-1604)
2) {TH}omas {SACKV}ille, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
. - Grand Master Freemason (1561-1567)
. {Stone Guild =3D> Guildensteen}
-------------------------------------------------
First published Shake-speare use of "TEST" :
...............................................
. Hamlet (1604 Q2) Act 3, Scene 4
.
Gertrude: This is the *VERy COYNAGE* of your braine,
. This bodilesse creation extacie is *VERy cunning* in.
.
Hamlet: My pulse as yours doth temperatly keepe time,
. And makes as healthfull m(U)sicke, it is not madnesse
. That I haue vttr(E)d, *bring me to the TEST* ,
. And the matter *Will reWO(R)D* , which madnesse
. Would gambole from, mother f(O)r loue of grace,
. Lay not tha[T] fl[A]tt[E]ri[N]g vnction to your soule
. That not your trespasse but my madnesse speakes,
. It will but skin and filme the vlcerous place
. Whiles RANCK corruption mining all within
...................................................
. Infects VNS[E]ENE , confesse you[R] selfe to heauen,
. R[E]pent what's past, a[V]oyd what is to com[E],
. And doe no{T} sprea[D] the c{O}mpost on th[E] {W}EEDES
. To mak{E} them RANCK(E|R}, forgiue me this my ve(R)tue,
. For in the fatness(E) of these pursie times
. (V)ertue it selfe of vice *must pardon beg* ,
. Yea curbe and wooe for leaue to doe him good.
...................................................
. <=3D 15 =3D>
.
. I n f e c t s*U N S[E]E N E*c o n f
. e s f e s s e y o u[R]s e l f e t o
. h e o h e a u e n R[E]p e n t w h a
. t s a t s p a s t a[V]o y d w h a t
. i s t i s t o c o m[E]A n d d o e n
. o T n o T s p r e a[D]t h e c O m p
. o s p o s t o n t h[E|W E E D E S}
.
[NEAT] -3 Prob. ~1 in 8
(UERO) 20
.................................
[EDEVERE] -15 James Ferris find
{ http://www.drjsferris.com }
The probability of finding [E.DE VERE] with
a Skip of 15 or less in Hamlet Q2 ~ 1 in 40.
--------------------------------------------------
> Arthur Neuendorffer <acneu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> __________ *THOMA(s) SNOUT* , tinker
>> __________ {anagram}
>> __________ *SOUTHAM(p)TON*
"David L. Webb" <david.l.w...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> That's not an anagram, Art: "Thomas Snout" has two occurrences of the
> letter "s", while "Southampton" has only one. MoreoVER, "Southampton"
> has an occurrence of the letter "p", while "Thomas Snout" has none.
>
> This is not rocket science, Art -- all that is needed is the ability
> to count to two; indeed, even the ability to count to one would have
> sufficed in this instance, as counting occurrences of "p"
> refutes your contention conclusively.
"S" can stand for just about any letter:
------------------------------------------------
__ *NIL VERO-VERIU(S)*
__ *OUR EVER-LIVIN(G)*
.............................................
__ *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
__ *NIL VE(r)O-VERIUS*
---------------------------------------------
(or Vise Versa):
.............................................
- The Phoenix and the Turtle
.
LET the bird of loudest lay,
On the sole Arabian tree,
Herald sad and trumpet be,
To whose sound cha[S]te wings obey.
But tho[U] shrieking harbinge[R],
Foul precurrer of th[E] fiend,
Augur of the *FE[V]ER'S* end,
To this troup{E COME} thou not near!
...................................
______ <=3D 18 =3D>
.
. L e t t h e b i r d o f l o u d e s
. t l a y O n t h e s o l e A r a b i
. a n t r e e H e r a l d s a d a n d
. t r u m p e t b e T o w h o s e s o
. u n d c h a[S]t e w i n g s o b e y
_ B u t t h o[U]s h r i e k i n g h a
_ r b i n g e[R]F o u l p r e c u r r
__e r o f t h[E]f i e n d A u g u r o
__f t h e f e[V]E R s e n d T o t h i
. s t r o u p{E[C O M E(t} h o u n o t
. n e a r
.
Prob. of *EVERUS* ~ 1/12,240 (any skip)
..............................................
. {E}douardus *VERUS* , [COME(s] Oxoniae,
. Vicecomes Bulbeck, Dominus de Scales
. & Badlismer, D. Magnus Angliae Ca-
. merarius: Lectori. S. D.
---------------------------------------------
Final Thomas Sheldon/Thomas Cecial paragraph:
<<Don Quixote helped him to rise, and Thomas Cecial his squire, on
whom Sancho still cast his eyes, asking him questions, whose answers
gave him manifest signs that he was Thomas Cecial indeed, as he said;
but the apprehension that was made in Sancho by what his master had
said, that the enchanters had changed the form of the Knight of the
Glasses into Samson Carrasco’s, made him not believe wha[T] he saw
with [H]is eyes. To c[O]nclude, the [M]aster and m[A]n remained
[S]till in their error; and he of the Glasses and his squire, very
moody and ill errants, left Don Quixote, purposing to seek some town
where he might cerecloth himself, and settle his ribs. Don Quixote and
Sancho held on their way to Saragosa, where the story leaves them, to
tell who was the Knight of the Glasses and his nosy squire.>>
............................
___ <= 10 =>
. {W} h a [T] h e s a w w
. {I} t h [H] i s e y e s.
. {T} o c [O] n c l u d e,
. {T} h e [M] a s t e r a
. n d m [A] n r e m a i
. n e d [S] t i l l i n
. t h e {I} r e r r o r
. a n d {H} e o f t h e
. G l a {S} s e s a n d
his squire, very moody and ill errants
[THOMAS {IHS}] THOMAS Skip <11 {675,000}
-----------------------------------------
# finds in skips from ±2 to ±1001
..................................
String NT OT Moby Dick (4,150,000,000)
-------------------------------------------
TOMSWIFT .09 .16 .08 (1 in 12,600,000,000)
O(ROGER)M .45 1.4 1.6 (1 in 1,200,000,000)
...........................
SPENSER 4 13 10 (1 in 154,000,000)
LDERBY 5 17 6 (1 in 148,000,000)
STRANGE 7 17 9 (1 in 126,000,000)
SDANIEL 7 27 12 (1 in 90,000,000)
ROGERM 15 56 20 (1 in 45,600,000)
..............................................
EREVERE
EREVEER 11 29 10 (1 in 41,000,000)
REEVEER
..............................................
EVERUS 24 63 28 (1 in 36,000,000)
BACONO/I 25 73 44
STANLEE 28 110 42 (1 in 23,000,000)
WSTANL 44 124 67 (1 in 17,700,000)
SIDNEY 57 131 50 (1 in 17,400,000)
FEEBLE 38 178 56 (1 in 17,000,000)
...........................
MASONS 60 174 85 (1 in 13,000,000)
DEVERE 81 259 65 (1 in 10,250,000)
DEVEER 76 252 62
EDEVER 79 245 78
ESPENS 83 241 160 (1 in 8,600,000)
...........................
HARRIS 95 365 145 (1 in 6,900,000)
THOMAS 114 396 116 (1 in 6,750,000)
EVEREO 121 372 125 (1 in 6,700,000)
DERBY 130 439 159 (1 in 5,700,000)
SHREWE 141 417 159 (1 in 5,700,000)
DANIEL 115 461 166 (1 in 5,600,000)
SIDNEI 138 445 199 (1 in 5,300,000)
VERUS 175 473 220 (1 in 4,800,000)
MARYS 208 583 260 (1 in 4,000,000)
BACON 183 579 294 (1 in 3,900,000)
GREENE 190 626 281 (1 in 3,800,000)
DEUEER 210 662 228
DEUERE 219 679 223
ARAISE 229 823 420
OXIN 238 678 706 (1 in 2,600,000)
...........................
EHOBY 374 1087 338 (1 in 2,310,000)
SWEETE 483 1112 507
UERUS 475 1235 648
HENRIE 455 1541 477 (1 in 1,680,000)
MARLO 393 1638 644 (1 in 1,550,000)
TNASHE 521 1941 528 (1 in 1,400,000)
SHAKE 455 1950 692 (1 in 1,340,000)
OXEN 506 1430 1258 (1 in 1,300,000)
SPENS 617 1901 1276 (1 in 1,280,000)
ROGER 673 2250 1061 (1 in 1,040,000)
SPEAR 635 2210 1250 (1 in 1,000,000)
TALUS 704 2530 1172 (1 in 942,000)
...........................
HIRAM 833 2881 898 (1 in 900,000)
MARIH 833 2881 898 (1 in 900,000)
...........................
SEVEN 1030 3002 1164 (1 in 800,000)
SCANT 933 2733 1545 (1 in 796,000)
MASON 955 3193 1270 (1 in 766,000)
ESLEY 984 3469 1444
HENRY 1160 3598 1007 (1 in 720,000)
SHREW 1211 3238 1299
EDYER 1185 3610 1091 (1 in 705,000)
PHEON 1086 3780 1386 (1 in 664,000)
EVERE 1697 4951 1773 (1 in 493,000)
EVEER 1697 4951 1773 (1 in 493,000)
...........................
STEAM 2361 7502 2819 (1 in 327,000)
TALOS 1842 7763 3117 (1 in 326,000)
NAILE 2319 9169 3990
OSIER 2716 8638 4192
WILL 2875 9881 6005
HENRI 3490 12107 3891 (1 in 213,000)
EUERE 4438 13711 5236
...........................
IOTHE 7291 24236 6915 (1 in 108,000)
DYER 8908 28748 8808 (1 in 89,000)
SLEY 8033 27050 12240 (1 in 88,000)
ROPE 9393 33352 16214
VERE 12696 39502 13996 (1 in 63,000)
ISAM 11803 36950 17292 (1 in 63,000)
MOAI 14308 46266 18452 (1 in 52,500)
SHENE 17400 57040 17220
HEWS 24146 61081 23593
UERO 20058 63511 25241
IDLE 19024 74864 28064
HEBE 31570 106235 32757
UERE 34713 107114 42928 (1 in 22,500)
STAR 35382 128800 51500 (1 in 19,200)
HEIR 50855 175350 56576 (1 in 14,700)
TEST 109930 354217 131111 (1 in 7,000)
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Art Neuendorffer
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