Rogues Gallery
Neuendorffer
Gallery
http://www.groundling.com/hlas
(There are now 17 pictures corresponding to the 17th Earl of Oxford.)
I was a little concerned that Dave was going to crop the thumbnail
portrait so much that I would end up explaining my theories to JODIE
(Sabyha) rather than to George Mason. , , in which case I would have had
to do some explaining to my wife.
Art Neuendorffer
Sabyha
Dave, you have done a wonderful job with the site and I will get some
biographical details to you.
Cheers!
Jodie
>Neuendorffer ph...@erols.com
>Date: 15/04/02 8:39 am E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <3CBA0529...@erols.com>
Jodie - Australia
http://members.aol.com/powtied/power1.html
Power of Will
Neuendorffer
> > I was a little concerned that Dave was going to crop the thumbnail
> >portrait so much that I would end up explaining my theories to JODIE
> >(Sabyha) rather than to George Mason. . . in which case I would have
> > had to do some explaining to my wife.
Sabyha wrote:
>
> Why couldn't you explain your theories to me????? I am so confused.
I just explained why.
(Now I'm going to have to explain to my wife why I am re-explaining
this explanation to you.)
Art
Thomas Larque
wrote:
I am surprised to see that Art's "biography" does not consist of
thousands of pages of randomly selected extracts from authors and
webpages containing the word "Art". Or alternatively, I suppose,
thousands of pages of randomly selected extracts from authors and
webpages containing the word "Rat" with thousands of explanatory
anagrams extracted by Art himself.
Anyway, Art, why is your wife happier that you are having an affair
with George Mason rather than Sabyha?
I'm off for a week to a Shakespeare course in Stratford, so this will
be my last posting for a while.
Thomas Larque.
"Shakespeare and His Critics"
http://shakespearean.org.uk
David L. Webb
the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
In article <3CBA0529...@erols.com>, Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com>
wrote:
Congratulations to Dave Fustenau for including the most celebrated
rogue of all -- ph...@errors.comedy! Dave has *really* hit the jackpot
-- or perhaps I should say the crackpot.
However, Art's biographical information could use some elaboration
-- for example, the biography currently reads in part:
"He believes Oxford wrote the Sonnets and was a major contributor
to Shakespeare's plays."
But this doesn't even begin to do justice to Art's originality --
indeed, Art suggested in this forum that Sonnet 20 was written by
Oxford, addressing his own penis.
And surely Art's biography should mention prominently the suggestive
fact that "Arthur Carl Neuendorffer" is a perfect anagram of
Unfurl an error he crafted,
or of
Fun: feral, uncharted error.
Indeed, perhaps I should write Art's biographical sketch and send a
lengthier and more complete version to Dave Furstenau.
David Webb
Dave Furstenau
"Neuendorffer" <ph...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3CBA0529...@erols.com...
> I was a little concerned that Dave was going to crop the thumbnail
> portrait so much that I would end up explaining my theories to JODIE
> (Sabyha) rather than to George Mason. , , in which case I would have had
> to do some explaining to my wife.
Appreciate the kind words, Art. That *is* a neat picture, btw ... and I did
scratch my head briefly about the thumbnail business. Luckily, the original
was of such quality resolution-wise, that it reduced surprisingly well. (I
suppose it's about time I break down and get a digital camera -- I always
said I'd wait for the quality to improve. They're outstanding now).
Had a few minor headaches along the way; reports that feature "X" didn't
resolve in browser "Y". (example: some tables weren't centering correctly
in Netscape or Opera). Using style sheets to suppliment html is
maddening -- each browser has it's own set of peculiarities and I finally
said the heck with it and downloaded all the popular ones so I could double
check myself. (Fixed the NS thing, btw). Good experience -- and it will
come in handy as I'm currently recoding the main page (which will display
selected plays in a suitable manner from XML originals).
Also, I'm told by Dave Webb (much thanx for the heads-up) that the 4.x
series of Netscape chokes on the page. This isn't really surprising. Their
early implimentation of CSS support was anemic, but they're fast making up
for it. No one really knew CSS would take off, I guess. I could try to
code around that, but frankly -- anyone using NetScape 4.x is in desparate
need of an upgrade for a variety of other reasons as well. Web site coding
is moving in an XMLish direction.
Eh ... enough tech-speak.
As always ... anyone wanting to be in the Gallery, drop me a line.
Dave Furstenau ba...@groundling.com
H.L.A.S. Rogues Gallery: http://www.groundling.com/hlas
Neuendorffer
>
> > I want to thank Dave Furstenau for including me in his HLAS Rogues
> > Gallery
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas
"David L. Webb" wrote:
> . . . perhaps I should write Art's biographical sketch and
> send a lengthier and more complete version to Dave Furstenau.
Why don't you write your own biographical sketch and send it to Dave
Furstenau. Streitz is getting awfully lonely down at the bottom there
all by himself.
Art Neuendorffer
Tom Reedy
Damned if he doesn't look almost excetly the way I pictured him! The
only difference is that I imagined him with a mane of hair like
Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future.
TR
Bob Grumman
> I just explained why.
> (Now I'm going to have to explain to my wife why I am re-explaining
> this explanation to you.)
> Art
Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
--Bob G.
--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
Neuendorffer
> > I want to thank Dave Furstenau for including me in his HLAS Rogues
> > Gallery
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas
Tom Reedy wrote:
> Damned if he doesn't look almost excetly the way I pictured him! The
> only difference is that I imagined him with a mane of hair like
> Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future.
Damned if Reedy doesn't look almost excetly [sic] the way I pictured
him. The only difference is that I imagined him with a mask, a hooded
leotard and a skull ring.
Art Neuendorffer
David L. Webb
the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
In article <3CBAB13D...@erols.com>, Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com>
(ph...@errors.comedy) wrote:
Are you taking after Coleridge, Art? After all, Byron wrote of him:
"And Coleridge, too, has lately taken wing,
But like a hawk encumbered with its hood,
Explaining metaphysics to the nation --
I wish he would explain his explanation."
(I may be mispunctuating from memory.)
Explaining your explanations is something you should probably
undertake more often, Art. HoweVER, I fear that you may enjoy no more
success explaining your theories to sane h.l.a.s. participants than you
have had explaining them to a bronze sculptural simulacrum of George
Mason -- but at least Mason is a captive audience, unlike present-day
Masons.
David Webb
Neuendorffer
> > > > I was a little concerned that Dave was going to crop the thumbnail
> > > >portrait so much that I would end up explaining my theories to JODIE
> > > >(Sabyha) rather than to George Mason. . . in which case I would have
> > > > had to do some explaining to my wife.
>
> > Sabyha wrote:
> > >
> > > Why couldn't you explain your theories to me????? I am so confused.
> Neuendorffer ph...@erols.com wrote:
> > I just explained why.
> >
> > (Now I'm going to have to explain to my wife why
> > I am re-explaining this explanation to you.)
"David L. Webb" wrote:
> Are you taking after Coleridge, Art? After all, Byron wrote of him:
>
> "And Coleridge, too, has lately taken wing,
> But like a hawk encumbered with its hood,
> Explaining metaphysics to the nation --
> I wish he would explain his explanation."
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On the title page of _Don Quixote_ is the arm
of someone hidden by clouds holding a hooded FALCON
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/elingen.html
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http://pages.prodigy.com/Christstory/falcon.htm
<<When FALCONS are pictured wearing a hood, they symbolize prisoners;
that treasure which is hidden in jars of clay [2 Cor 4:6-7]
or stifled by ignorance and sin [Is 58:9-11; John 1:4-5];
or communion with & hope in the light which is Christ in spite of
the surrounding night [2 Sam 22:29; Psa 112:4; Is 42:16; John 8:12].
As Micah wrote, contemplating the destruction of Israel,
"when I fall, I will arise; when I sit in the darkness,
the LORD will be a light to me." [Micah 7:8]
Renaissance printers used the logo of a hooded FALCON
along with the words "Post Tenebras Spero Lucem"
(After darkness I hope for light).>>
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The Legend of the Falcon Crest
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~lenker/lengerke/crest.html
<<Once upon a time a very demanding Aussie princess had two ladies
in waiting, Sydney and Adelaide, and she loved them very much. The
princess disliked all knights that courted the young women. One day, a
handsome and brave knight appeared and soon became the favorite of both
Sydney and Adelaide. The princess tried to keep the knight away from
her ladies, and he became very disheartened. The only joy left to him
was falconry. He possessed a beautiful white falcon which be had raised
himself and which he used to carry on his arm. Even more than his
falcon, however, he loved Adelaide. The princess became aware of this
secret love, and so did Sydney, who herself had passionately fallen in
love with the knight.
One day when Adelaide was kneeling down before the little altar in her
chambers, the evening sun cast a ray on the window sill and on the
little falcon who was perched there. The falcon wore a purple velvet
cap, on which was written, embroidered with pearls: P.T.S.L. (Post
Tenebras Spero Lucem) (After the darkness hope for light). Adelaide
recognized the bird, and so did Sydney who happened to witness this
event and she selfishly reported it to the princess. On the first
official occasion the princess announced her desire for an engagement
between the owner of the falcon and the now very happy Adelaide. From
that point on the falcon only took its food from Adelaide's hand a
picture of the falcon was to be seen on the shield of the knight.>>
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"David L. Webb" wrote:
> Explaining your explanations is something you should probably
> undertake more often, Art. HoweVER, I fear that you may enjoy no more
> success explaining your theories to sane h.l.a.s. participants than you
> have had explaining them to a bronze sculptural simulacrum of George
> Mason -- but at least Mason is a captive audience, unlike present-day
> Masons.
Was that a simulacrum! (Where do you simulcast a simulacrum that big?)
Simulacrum, n.; pl. {Simulacra}. [Middle English, from Latin simulare;
Date: 15th century] A likeness; a semblance; a mock appearance; a sham;
-- now usually in a derogatory sense.
Beneath it nothing but a great simulacrum. --Thackeray.
<<Is this same Age of Hope itself but a simulacrum; as Hope too often
is? Cloud-vapour with rainbows painted on it, beautiful to see, to sail
towards, -- which hovers over Niagara Falls? In that case, victorious
Analysis will have enough to do.>> -- French Revolution - Thomas Carlyle
"Shakespeare is a Reality, and no Simulacrum: a living son of Nature our
general Mother; not a hollow Artfice, and mechanism of
Conventionalities, son of nothing, brother to nothing. In which little
word, let the earnest man, walking sorrowful in a world mostly of
'Stuffed Clothes-suits,' that chatter and grin meaningless on him, quite
ghastly to the earnest soul, -- think what significance there is! His
Life was a Fact to him; this
God's Universe an awful Fact and Reality. He has faults enough. The man
was an uncultured semi-barbarous Son of Nature, much of the Bedouin
still clinging to him: we must take him for that. But for a wretched
Simulacrum, a hungry Impostor without eyes or heart, practicing for a
mess of pottage such blasphemous swindlery, forgery of celestial
documents, continual high-treason against his Maker and Self, we will
not and cannot take him."
Art Neuendorffer
John W. Kennedy
> Are you taking after Coleridge, Art? After all, Byron wrote of him:
>
> "And Coleridge, too, has lately taken wing,
> But like a hawk encumbered with its hood,
> Explaining metaphysics to the nation --
> I wish he would explain his explanation."
>
> (I may be mispunctuating from memory.)
"It is one of the marks of a great thinker that he is easier
to understand than his commentators."
-- C. S. Lewis (paraphrasing from memory)
--
John W. Kennedy
Read the remains of Shakespeare's lost play, now annotated!
http://pws.prserv.net/jwkennedy/Double%20Falshood.html
Neuendorffer
> > Are you taking after Coleridge, Art?
> > After all, Byron wrote of him:
> > "And Coleridge, too, has lately taken wing,
> > But like a hawk encumbered with its hood,
> > Explaining metaphysics to the nation --
> > I wish he would explain his explanation."
> >
> > (I may be mispunctuating from memory.)
"John W. Kennedy" wrote:
>
> "It is one of the marks of a great thinker that
> he is easier to understand than his commentators."
> -- C. S. Lewis (paraphrasing from memory)
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Easter 18 Apr NS 1593 => William Herbert's 13th birthday
18 Apr OS 1593 => Venus & Adonis was registered
Good Friday 8 Apr 1300 => Dante descends into Hell
Easter 10 Apr 1300 => Dante returns to see stars
Easter 14 Apr 1471 => “Warwick” killed at Barnet
Easter 9 Apr 1553 => FRANCOIS rabelais dies
Easter 9 Apr 1626 => FRANCIS bacon dies freezing chicken
Sunday 14 Apr 1861 => Two Ft. Sumter casualties
9 Apr 1865 => Lee surrenders to Grant
Good Friday 14 Apr 1865 => Booth shots Abraham Lincoln
26 Apr 1865 => BOSTON Corbett shots Booth
Easter 9 Apr 1882 => Dante Gabriel Rossetti dies
9 Apr 1973 => W.H. Lewis buried with C.S.
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Man must endure his going hence.
C. S. Lewis
(Headington Quarry Churchyard; Oxfordshire, England)
November 22, 1819, George Eliot [Marian Evans] born.
November 22, 1916, Jack London died of uremic poisoning (suicide?).
November 22, 1963, Jack Kennedy assassinated.
November 22, 1963, Aldous Huxley died.
November 22, 1963, C.S. Lewis died & was buried
in Headington Quarry Churchyard
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The Stone the Builders Rejected
Jack London
(Jack London State Historic Park; Glen Ellen, California)
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<< In 1907, with his second wife, Charmian, Jack London sailed
the Pacific to the South Seas in the SNARK, which became
the basis for his book, The Cruise of the SNARK.>>
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Art Neuendorffer (paraphrasing from computer memory)
Roundtable
> Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
> about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
> Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
> cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
Roundtable
Sabyha
have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
neither talks to the opposite sex.
Cheers!
Jodie
>"Roundtable" lancelo...@hotmail.com
>Date: 17/04/02 5:50 am E. Australia Standard Time
>Message-id: <e4650e46de3ee48c99d...@mygate.mailgate.org>
>
>"Bob Grumman" <bobgr...@nut-n-but.net> wrote in message
>
>> Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
>> about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
>> Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
>> cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
>
>I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
>onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
>but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
>
>Roundtable
Roundtable
news:20020417022503...@mb-me.aol.com...
> That's exactly what I thought, Roundtable. I don't understand why he would
> have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
> neither talks to the opposite sex.
>
Well, you never know...some Italians are like that, so maybe some
Neuendorffers are the same...
I'm different, I think flirting is necessary to keep a relationship
on its toes. But then of course that's because I like to flirt.
Neuendorffer
> >
> >> Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
> >> about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
> >> Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
> >> cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
> "Roundtable" lancelo...@hotmail.com
> >I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
> >onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
> >but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
Sabyha wrote:
> That's exactly what I thought, Roundtable. I don't understand why he would
> have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
> neither talks to the opposite sex.
Good Grief!
Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
1) Ben Jonson adores Shakspere and dispises him.
2) The greatest author has no books, letters, or manuscripts
3) The greatest author left only scrawled signatures
4) The greatest author has an illiterate family
5) An author of high ideals led a petty self centered life.
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Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
and try to answer the following questions:
1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself & his own Masonic conspiracy
theory?
3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
with Freemasonry and/or their influence?
4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet like his wife keeps
suggesting?
7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
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<<CICERO - from the Latin, CICER (a wart or vetch). Plutarch says
“a flat excrescence on the tip of his nose gave him this name.”
His real name was (Tullius) Tully.>>
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<<Once free of law [Petrarch] pursued the study of classical literature
and his relentless search for ancient manuscripts. One of his
significant discoveries, at Verona in 1345, was a collection of the
letters of the Roman orator CICERO. Petrarch produced a sizable number
of writings. The most celebrated are the poems collectively called
'Rime' (Rhymes), which tell of the great love of his life: a woman named
Laura, whom he first saw in church on April 6, 1327. She has never been
identified.>>
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"So, my dear Lord, we must make the best of it, cherish the past and
honour those writers- there are still a few left of 'em- who take
antiquity for their model and write, not for pay but for Glawr(i.e.,
Glory). Glawr is the spur of noble minds. Had I a pension of three
hundred pounds a year paid quarterly, I would live for Glawr alone. I
would lie in bed every morning reading CICERO. I would imitate his style
so that you couldn't tell the difference between us. That's what I call
fine writing. That's what I call Glawr. But it's necessary to have a
pension to do it.">> -- _Orlando_ by Virginia Woolf
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Pietro Bembo [Catholic Encyclopedia]
b. of a noble family at Venice, 20 May, 1470;
d. at Rome, 18 January, 1547.
<<Pietro Bembo was a master of elegant diction. He possessed beyond any
contemporary the formal perfection of style, both in Latin and Italian,
demanded by the age in which he lived. In his Latin writings it was his
aim to imitate as closely as possible the style of CICERO. His letters
were masterpieces of Latin style and of the art of letter-writing. He is
said to have passed his compositions through numerous portfolios,
revising them in each one of them. Bembo's works include a history of
Venice, poems, dialogues, criticisms and letters. The most important
are: "Rerum Veneticarum Libri XII" (1551), a history of Venice covering
the period from 1487 to 1513, originally published in Latin, but
afterwards translated by the author into Italian; "Gli Asolani" (Venice,
1505), a dialogue in Italian on Platonic love, composed in imitation of
CICERO's Tusculan Disputations, and dedicated to Lucrezia Borgia; "Le
Prose", a short treatise on the Italian language; "Le Rime" (Venice,
1530); "Carmina" (Venice, 1533), a collection of Latin poems; and
several volumes of letters, written in Latin. Besides these original
works he edited the Italian poems of Petrarch, printed by Aldus (1501),
and the "Terze rime" of Dante (1502).>>
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Globe Theatre as gate to the Underworld
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<<Whenever a town was founded a round hole would first be dug. In the
bottom of it a stone, lapis manalis, which represented a gate to the
Underworld, would then be embedded. On the 23th of August, the 5th of
October and the 8th of November this stone would be removed to permit
the Manes to pass through. The object of the cult rendered to them was
to appease their anger. Originally they were offered blood sacrifices,
and it is probable that the first gladiatorial combats were instituted
in their honour. Like the Greeks the Latins placed the Infernal Regions
in the centre of the earth. It could be reached by various openings -
caves, lakes , marshes. One of the most celebrated of these was Lake
Avernus in Campania, a grim and deserted spot in the neighbourhood of
Pozzuoli. The hills which surrounded it were formerly covered with woods
sacred to Hecate (luci averni) and pitted with cavities through which,
according to CICERO, one called forth the souls of the dead. Near
Avernus the cave called the Cave of the Cumaean Sibyl can still
be seen.>> -- Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology
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Plutarch's Lives ** _CICERO_
<<On beginning to apply himself more resolutely to public
business, he remarked it as an unreasonable and absurd thing
that artificers, using vessels and instruments inanimate, should
know the name, place, and use of every one of them, and yet the
statesman, whose instruments for carrying out public measures
are men, should be negligent and careless in the knowledge of
persons. And so he not only acquainted himself with the names,
but also knew the particular place where every one of the more
eminent citizens dwelt, what lands he possessed, the friends he
made use of, and those that were of his neighborhood, and when
he traveled on any road in Italy, he could readily name and show
the estates and seats of his friends and acquaintance. Having
so small an estate, though a sufficient competency for his own
expenses, it was much wondered at that he took neither fees nor
gifts from his clients, and more especially, that he did not do
so when he undertook the prosecution of Verres. This Verres,
who had been praetor of Sicily, and stood charged by the
Sicilians of many evil practices during his government there,
CICERO succeeded in getting condemned, not by speaking, but in a
manner by holding his tongue. For the praetors, favoring
Verres, had deferred the trial by several adjournments to the
last day, in which it was evident there could not be sufficient
time for the advocates to be heard, and the cause brought to an
issue. CICERO, therefore, came forward, and said there was no
need of speeches; and after producing and examining witnesses,
he required the judges to proceed to sentence. However, many
witty sayings are on record, as having been used by CICERO on
the occasion. When a man named Caecilius, one of the freed
slaves, who was said to be given to Jewish practices, would have
put by the Sicilians, and undertaken the prosecution of Verres
himself, CICERO asked, "What has a Jew to do with swine?"
verres being the Roman word for a boar. And when Verres began
to reproach CICERO with effeminate living, "You ought," replied
he, "to use this language at home, to your sons;" Verres having
a son who had fallen into disgraceful courses. Hortensius the
orator, not daring directly to undertake the defense of Verres,
was yet persuaded to appear for him at the laying on of the
fine, and received an ivory sphinx for his reward; and when
CICERO, in some passage of his speech, obliquely reflected on
him, and Hortensius told him he was not skillful in solving
riddles, "No," said CICERO, "and yet you have the Sphinx in your
house!"
Verres was thus convicted; though CICERO, who set the fine
at seventy-five myriads, lay under the suspicion of being
corrupted by bribery to lessen the sum. But the Sicilians, in
testimony of their gratitude, came and brought him all sorts of
presents from the island, when he was aedile; of which he made
no private profit himself, but used their generosity only to
reduce the public price of provisions.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> <<CICERO - from the Latin, CICER (a wart or vetch). Plutarch says
> “a flat excrescence on the tip of his nose gave him this name.”
> His real name was (Tullius) Tully.>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> <<Once free of law [Petrarch] pursued the study of classical literature
> and his relentless search for ancient manuscripts. One of his
> significant discoveries, at Verona in 1345, was a collection of the
> letters of the Roman orator CICERO. Petrarch produced a sizable number
> of writings. The most celebrated are the poems collectively called
> 'Rime' (Rhymes), which tell of the great love of his life: a woman named
> Laura, whom he first saw in church on April 6, 1327. She has never been
> identified.>>
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<<Looking out the window of an airplane, you might be lucky enough to
see "the glory" in the direction directly opposite the Sun. Before
airplanes, the phenomenon, known to some as the heiligenschein or the
Specter of the Brocken, was sometimes seen from mountaintops. There,
when conditions were right, one could look away from the Sun and see
what appeared to be the shadow of a giant surrounded by a bright halo.
The giant turns out to be the observer, as in the modern version a
silhouette of an plane frequently occupies the glory's center. Pictured
above, several concentric rings of the glory were photographed. The
phenomenon has similar counterparts in other branches of science
including astronomy, where the looking out from the Earth in the
direction opposite the Sun yields a bright spot called the gegenschein.
http://www.polarization.com/rainbow/rainbow2.html#specter
The Specter of the Brocken was a rather mysterious phenomena. Somebody
would laboriously climb a mountain and break through the clouds into the
bright sunlight. Then he would turn around and be confronted by a giant
with multi-colored rings around his head. The spectacle was named the
specter of the Brocken after the peak in the Harz Mountains of Germany,
where it was often seen. The giant figure was the shadow of the climber
cast over the fog, who often would exaggerate its size by miscalculating
its distance. But the colored rings around the head, the Glory, proved
much more difficult to explain. Nowadays the glory is very often seen
from airplanes, surrounding its shadow on the clouds below (however, if
the airplane is high above the clouds, only the glory remains).
The physical origin of the glory was an optical riddle until the
seventies, when it was calculated correctly by scattering theory. The
small water drops of clouds and fog produce it; however, no intuitive
physical explanation is available. In part the glory comes from light
guided by the interface of water and air (surface waves) and in part
from light that undergoes ten (!) internal reflections (a tenth
rainbow?). If you look at a single drop, you will see a ring of light
shining on its periphery.
The polarization of the glory is extremely unusual. The colored rings
are radially polarized, contrary to a rainbow. On the other hand, the
white region close to the center is tangentially polarized. With a
linear polarizer a distinctive pattern appears, formed by sections of
the colored rings plus dark triangles in the center region pointing
towards the center.
It is worth to look for the glory when traveling by plane as it is
quite common. In fact, at one time some pilots used it to find the
position of the sun when it was behind them and there was no visible
shadow ("shooting the glory"). Interestingly, the pilot will see the
glory centered on the front of the aircraft shadow (if visible), while a
passenger on the last seat will see it centered towards the tail of the
shadow. Many times you will see a long narrow shadow starting at the
glory and going backwards. It is the shadow of the contrail, the vapor
trail left by the jet turbines.
Neuendorffer
> Congratulations to Dave Fustenau for including the most celebrated
> rogue of all -- ph...@errors.comedy! Dave has *really* hit the jackpot
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DACULA jackpot
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<<The winning numbers for the estimated $325 million jackpot were:
07, 10, 25, 26, 27 and the Big Money Ball: 23. CBS radio reported
that the winning ticket in Georgia was sold at a convenience store
in DACULA.>> - (Reuters)
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<<On the face of it, the Grail-related stories (whether of Cinderella,
Robin Hood, Sleeping Beauty or Count DRACULA) each hold their separate
mysteries and enchantments, but it is not generally understood that they
all stem from a common historical base which is rooted in the culture of
the Grail Kings. Even though some of the themes have their origins in
very old lore, the majority of tales (as we know them) were newly
slanted from the Dark Ages onwards, and especially from mediaeval times
when the Church's persecution of Grail heretics was in full swing,
leading to the Catholic Inquisitions.>> -- Sir Laurence Gardner
Nexus Magazine, Volume 6, Number 5 (August-September 1999).
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<<On 16 August, 1956, Bela Lugosi, died while working on Ed Woods'
classic movie _Plan Nine from Outer Space_(; another actor a good deal
taller than Lugosi being brought in). Lugosi asked to be buried in his
DRACULA cape. His friend Boris Karloff looked at the caped corpse of
Lugosi and said, "You're not putting us on this time, are you?">>
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http://www.whitby.co.uk/
http://www.eng-h.gov.uk/projects/whitby/wahpsae/
<<Whitby is an ancient fishing port that nestles between the North York
Moors and the North Sea at the mouth of the River Esk. The town's
skyline is dominated by the ruins of St Hilda's Abbey, high on the East
Cliff. Spreading below, a maze of alleyways and narrow streets run down
to the busy quayside. From the old town, 199 steps lead up to the parish
church of St Mary, one of the finest examples of Anglo Saxon churches in
the country, and whose churchyard gave Bram Stoker the inspiration to
write his world famous book, DRACULA. Whitby has produced it's own
famous sons. Among these are Captain James Cook, the 18th century
explorer and voyager. Situated on the estuary of the River Esk, Whitby
is divided into an East Bank and West Bank, connected by a swing bridge.
The original bridge was known to exist as far back as 1351.
Lewis Carroll was supposedly inspired to write his poem
"The Walrus and the Carpenter" by his walks along Whitby beach.>>
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http://landow.stg.brown.edu/victorian/decadence/wilde/wildebio.html
<<Oct 16, 1854, Oscar Wilde was born into a stimulating environment.
Socially favored were those who could construct the most captivating
stories about illustrious history, and many stories wove superstition
into the formula. Wilde and his mother were very superstitious people,
and Wilde claimed to have been visited by both his mother and his wife
on the eve of their deaths, although on both occasions he was separated
by many miles (and, in the case of Speranza's death, which occurred when
Wilde was incarcerated, by formidable walls). This immersion in the
supernatural had an impact on Wilde's stories, particularly Dorian Gray
and "Lord Arthur Saville's Crime," in which the protagonist is driven to
absurd distraction by the prediction of a white-knuckled fortune-teller.
He was also influenced in this stage by Speranza's memory of her uncle
Charles Maturin, an early author in the horror-fantasy genre-and a
source of great pride for the family -- and by Bram Stoker (author
of DRACULA), who was a frequent guest at Merrion Square.>>
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Steel Bras and Winged Hats
http://www.dragoncourt.org/ringasset/ch5_05.asp
<<Odin's particular areas of influence came to include the forces
of Sorcery and War, which might have reflected a move towards the
Raid or Trade practices common amongst earlier Scythian and later
Scandinavian peoples. Oddly enough Odin, at one stage in his career, was
also called upon as a god of mortal love, probably because of the Wild
Hunt and the quasi-sexual practices within Royal Vampiric Ritual. Though
as a guardian of Portals and a psychopomp he is identified with Mercury,
or Hermes in the Greek Pantheon, both of whom were messengers of the
gods and, like Robin and St. Nicholas, were also the patrons of thieves.
Some confusion exists over who came first, Odin or Thor, with some
commentators asserting that Thor was the son of Odin. By studying his
function and identity in other cultures, it is easy to see that Odin
started out not as a god, but as a priest-prince, performing exactly the
same mediatory function as any other Scythian intermediary priest from
whatever branch of the greater Dragon Tuadhe.
Tuadhe is pronounced Teetha or Tootha, meaning an Overtribe or nation.
The Dragon's Teeth, sown by Cadinus against Jason and the Argonauts,
represented Scythian warriors of the Dragon Tuadhe or nation.
In the fable The teeth, a play on words, which were sown in the sand,
rose up as skeletal soldiers, reminiscent of the grey blue, blood
drinking ghost warriors of the Scythian north. In the mediatory sense,
Odin's story is no different to that of DRACULA or in fact Christ, who
also acted as a priestly, human intercessor, only to become identified
with the Cosmic force, whilst his close associate, Prince Vlad IV, also
became deified in popular folklore, as Satan himself.>>
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http://www.leyline.org/cra/articles/lughnasadh.html
<<...Lughnasadh is named for Lugh, the Celtic deity who presides over
the arts and sciences. According to Celtic legend, Lugh decreed that a
commemorative feast be held each year at the beginning of the harvest
season to honor his foster mother, Tailtiu. Tailtiu was the royal Lady
of the VERE-BOLG. After the defeat of her people by the Tuatha De
Dannan,
she was obliged by them to clear a vast forest for the purpose of
planting grain. She died of exhaustion in the attempt. The legend
states that she was buried beneath a great mound named for her, at the
spot where the first feast of Lughnasadh was held in Ireland, the hill
of Tailte. At this gathering were held games and contests of skill as
well as a great feast made up of the first fruits of the summer harvest.
With the coming of Christianity to the Celtic lands, the old festival of
Lughnasadh took on Christian symbolism. Loaves of bread were baked from
the first of the harvested grain and placed on the church altar on the
first Sunday of August. The Christianized name for the feast of
Lughnasadh is LAMMAS which means "loaf mass"....
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Romeo and Juliet Act 1, Scene 3
Nurse Even or odd, of all days in the year,
Come LAMMAS-EVE at night shall she be fourteen.
SUSAN and she--God rest all Christian souls!--
Were of an age: well, SUSAN is with God;
She was too good for me: but, as I said,
On LAMMAS-EVE at night shall she be fourteen;
That shall she, marry; I remember it well.
'Tis since the EARTHQUAKE now eleven years;
And she was wean'd,--I never shall forget it,--
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<<The Plantagenets themselves were a junior branch of the
House of Anjou, whose senior branch was the House of Vere.
In 1861, the noted royal historian Baron Thomas Babington Macaulay
described the Veres as "the longest and most illustrious line of nobles
that England has ever seen". Their ancestry was jointly PICTISH and
MEROVINGIAN, descending from the ancient Grail House of Scythia. Here
was a true kingly line of the Elven Race, and it was for this reason
that OBERON (a variant of AUBREY/Albrey, the historical Elf King) became
Shakespeare's King of the Fairies. Such was the translatory nature of
all Rosicrucian symbology, whether portrayed in stories, artwork,
watermarks or the Tarot. In 1408, Edward de Vere's ancestor, Richard
(Lord Chamberlain & 11th Earl of Oxford), had been invested as a Knight
of the Garter by King Henry IV at Windsor Castle. Invested at the same
time was King Sigismund of Hungary, who had revived the ancient Egyptian
Order of the DRAGON - within which Richard de Vere held the hereditary
distinction of Lord DRACONIS.>> - Sir Laurence Gardner
Nexus Magazine, Volume 6, Number 5 (August-September 1999)
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KING LEAR Act 1, Scene 2
EDMUND My father compounded with my mother under the
DRAGON'S TAIL;
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From a lecture presented by Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm.
at the 1999 NEXUS Conference held in Sydney, 22-23rd May
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3460/lords4.html
<<The Cassi tribes were from Mesopotamia, prior to which (having
previously settled in the northern Zargos Mountains along with the
Yulannu) they were Carpathian princes of the Sidhé. They were
of the Tuatha Dé Danann Fairy strain. They reigned in regional
Mesopotamia from the 18th century BC and, from about 1600 BC,
they governed all Babylonia for another 500 years.
This particular race developed one of the oldest Ring cultures in
history and, in ancient Ireland, they were the sacred race of the
god-men: the VERE-BOLG. The greatest of their Ring shrines still exists,
known as Newgrange today - originally a sacred royal seat identified as
a RATH. These shrines ("fairy rings") were called the Creachaire
(TEMPLE-TOMBS), and they housed the RATHs which were turf-covered mound
dwellings constructed upon a framework of poles. In later times, they
were called Tepes (pronounced "tepesh") - from which derived the
American Indian tepee - and they were reckoned to be Portals to the
Netherworld, the sacred domain of ancestral souls.
It is from this mound-dwelling practice that the tribal name of the
Cassi Kings evolved, for a Cassi was a Place of Wood. They were the
seats of the Portal Guardians: the OUPIRES, the Ring Lords of the Sidhé,
who, as we saw earlier, were later dubbed "VAMPIRES".
One of history's best known Grail Fairies was Princess Melusine,
daughter of the Pictish King, Elinas of Alba - a descendant of the
2nd-century King VERE of Caledonia, Lord of the Dragon. In the year 733,
Melusine (maintaining the family heritage) married Rainfroi DE VERE,
Prince of Anjou, and among their offspring was Count Maelo, the
commander of Emperor Charlemagne's army. From Maelo's own marriage to
Charlemagne's sister sprang the VERE Counts of Guisnes who, as
previously mentioned, were the reputed Elf Kings and became England's
Great Chamberlains and Earls of Oxford.
In the Arthurian and Magdalene traditions of the Ladies of the Lake (as
discussed in Bloodline of the Holy Grail), Melusine was a "fountain fey"
- an enchantress of the Underwood. Her fountain at Verrières en Forez
was called Lusina (meaning "Light-bringer"), from which derived the name
of the Royal House of Lusignan - the Crusader Kings of Jerusalem. The
Fount of Melusine was said to be located deep within a thicket wood in
Anjou, and Melusine was often depicted as a mermaid - as she is still
beguilingly portrayed in an old painting at Count DRACULA's Bran
Castle in Romania.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
<<Odin, the Norse High God of the Aesir,
hung from the world ASH tree,
Yggdrasil,
impaled on his own SPEAR, for nine days and nights in order to
gain the knowledge of runes. When the runes appeared below him,
he reached down and took them up, and the runic knowledge gave
him power.
He later passed on this knowledge to the Vanir goddess Freyja.
(VENUS)
She, in turn, taught him the magic of seithr. HEIMDALL, the god
who GUARDED the Rainbow Bridge, taught the runes to mankind.>>
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HOLINSHED, [R]APHAEL
HEI[M]DALL PHEON ASH
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T O T H E O N L I E B 'raw' probabilities:
E G E T T E R O F T H
E S E I N S V I N G S TIBIAL: 1 in 11,600
O N N E T S M r W H A EMEPH: 1 in 300
L H A P I N E S GROTS: 1 in 199
|L] N D T [P] A T E [S| PHEON: 1 in 127
[E|A] T I [H] P R [T|E]
R [N|I] Y [E] V [O|M] I
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http://members.aol.com/cbsunny/meanings.html
ALGIZ: (ELK, protection.) Protection, a SHIELD. Protective
urge to shelter oneself or others. Defense, warding off of EVIL,
SHIELD, GUARDIAN. Connection with the gods, awakening, higher life.
Keep hold of success or maintain a position won or earned.>>
http://members.aol.com/cbsunny/meanings.html
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"A HAMLET GUARDIAN"
"NUADA AIRG-ETLAMH"
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http://www.loggia.com/myth/nuada.html
<<According to mythology, at one point Nuada was the king of the Tuatha
De Danaan. However, during the First Battle of Magh Tuiredh (which was
fought by the Tuatha De and their rivals, the Fir Bholg), Nuada's arm -
or hand - was severed from his body. This unfortunate wound immediately
disqualified the god from the rank of king, and so he was forced to
abdicate. It was the clever god Dian Cecht who in part solved
this problem, by making a silver arm to replace the one that Nuada
had lost. And it was at this time that the former king received
the title "Nuada Airgedlámh", or "Nuada of the Silver Hand".
Although Nuada eventually regained his kingship (in large part because
of his new metal arm or hand), he first had do battle with the unpopular
king who had taken his place, Bres. This conflict - between Nuada and
Bres - led to theSecond Battle of Magh Tuiredh. In the course of the
preparations for war, Nuada made the acquaintance of Lugh, and decided
to relinquish his position so that Lugh could become leader of the
Tuatha De Danaan.
Nuada was known as Nudd of the Silver Hand in Welsh mythology>>
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http://149.144.201.234/~myths/danann.html#Nuada
<<During the 1st battle of Moytura (Magh Tuiredh), the Dananns defeated
the Firbolgs, killing Mac Erc, king of the Firbolgs. However, Nuada lost
his right hand in the fighting. The people had a law that stated the
mutilation of his hand prevented Nuada from ruling Ireland as their
king. So the Dananns chose Bres as their king. However, Bres' rule
was so harsh that the Dananns felt oppressed.
Dian Cécht (Dian Cecht) was the great physician, who had replaced
Nuada's hand with magical silver hand. Nuada became known as Nuada
Airgedlámh (Nuada of the Silver Hand). With a new hand, the Dananns
willingly accepted Nuada as king, and had Bres stepped down from the
throne. Bres however reconquered Ireland, aided by his grandfather
Balor, the Fomorian leaders.
The Dananns then had to suffer from oppression from the Fomorian
overlord, until the arrival of Lugh, son of Cian (Kian). Lugh sided
with Nuada, and in the second battle of Moytura (Magh Tuiredh). During
the battle, Balor killed Nuada. The Fomorians were defeated when Lugh
killed Balor with his sling. Nuada was said to be father of Murna of
the White Neck, mother of the hero Finn MacCumhaill.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> > >
> > >> Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
> > >> about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
> > >> Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
> > >> cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
>
> > "Roundtable" lancelo...@hotmail.com
>
> > >I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
> > >onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
> > >but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
>
> Sabyha wrote:
>
> > That's exactly what I thought, Roundtable. I don't understand why he would
> > have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
> > neither talks to the opposite sex.
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Easter 18 Apr NS 1593 => William Herbert's 13th birthday
18 Apr OS 1593 => Venus & Adonis was registered
Good Friday 8 Apr 1300 => Dante descends into Hell
Easter 10 Apr 1300 => Dante returns to see stars
Easter 14 Apr 1471 => OXFORD fights at BARNET
Easter 9 Apr 1553 => FRANCOIS rabelais dies
Easter 9 Apr 1626 => FRANCIS bacon dies freezing chicken
Sunday 14 Apr 1861 => Two Ft. Sumter casualties
9 Apr 1865 => Lee surrenders to Grant
Good Friday 14 Apr 1865 => Booth shots Abraham Lincoln
26 Apr 1865 => BOSTON Corbett shots Booth
Easter 9 Apr 1882 => Dante Gabriel Rossetti dies
9 Apr 2002 => George Mason monument
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http://eg.washingtonpost.com/profile/1071781/?&flavor_id=3&context=arts
<<As of April 9, 2002, George Mason, perhaps the least known of the
remarkable cadre of Revolutionary-era Virginians to whom we owe so much,
will officially take a place in the national pantheon of the Mall.
Fittingly, the location of the George Mason National Memorial, on Ohio
Drive near the Tidal Basin, is not quite on the Mall's center stage.
Mason, after all, was a thinker more than a doer in political affairs,
and nowhere near as central to the national story as fellow Virginians
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Indeed, Mason's second most
famous political deed -- after his authorship in 1776 of the epochal
Virginia Declaration of Rights, anticipating both the Declaration of
Independence and the Bill of Rights -- was a non-act. In 1787, Mason
REFUSED to sign the Constitution written largely by his erstwhile
disciple, James Madison.
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Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC-43 BC)
http://gracie.smsu.edu/cicero.htm
<<An accomplished poet, philosopher, rhetorician, and humorist, Marcus
Tullius Cicero (106 BC-43 BC) was also the greatest forensic orator Rome
ever produced. But to Cicero, service to the res publica (literally,
"the public affair") was a Roman citizen's highest duty. At age 26 (in
80 BC), he successfully defended a man prosecuted unjustly by a crony of
the bloodthirsty dictator Sulla. In 69 BC, he brought to order the
corrupt Sicilian governor Verres. As consul in 63 BC, he put down the
Catilinarian conspiracy; later, he was sent into exile for REFUSING TO
JOIN the First Triumvirate. Late in life, he led the Senate's gallant
but unsuccessful battle against Antony, for which he paid with his
life on 7 December 43 BC.>>
Feast day of St. Ambros patron of orators and teachers.
December 7, 43 BC, Cicero beheaded by Caesar's men.
December 7, 374, St. Ambrose consecrated Bishop of Milan.
His influential works on theology and ethics made
Ambrose (along with Jerome, Augustine, and Gregory the Great)
one of the "four doctors" of the Western (Latin) Church.
December 7, 430, Cyril of Alexandria, 54, formally condemned the
Nestorian heresy, from the teachings of the Antiochene monk Nestorius,
who had claimed that there were two separate Persons in
the Incarnate Christ (one Divine, the other Human).
December 7, 1542, Mary Queen of Scots (1560-1587) born.
December 7, 1598, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Renaissance artist
and architect of St Peter's in Rome, born.
December 7, 1661, Massachusetts suspended its Corporal Punishment Act
of 1656, which had imposed harsh penalties
on Quakers and other religious Nonconformists.
December 7, 1732, the original Covent Garden Theatre Royal
(now the Royal Opera House) opened
December 7, 1787, Delaware 1st state to ratify Constitution.
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_Bronze Tribute to an Iron Will_
By Benjamin Forgey Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 9, 2002
http://eg.washingtonpost.com/profile/1071781/?&flavor_id=3&context=arts
<<The $2.1 million memorial was supported by private donations to the
Board of Regents of Gunston Hall, Mason's plantation in southern Fairfax
County. The design of the memorial, by the Alexandria landscape
architecture firm of Rhodeside & Harwell with a bronze figure by
Bethesda sculptor WENDY ROSS. Trees and flower beds are arranged in
concentric circles around a pool with a large, low fountain. The bronze
likeness of a seated Mason occupies a marble bench under a trellis at
the back edge of the space -- it is as if Mason had paused in thought
while reading a book in his renowned formal gardens at Gunston Hall. In
designing the memorial setting, however, landscape architect Faye
Harwell relied more on early 20th-century than 18th-century precedent.
The site, facing the little bridge over the inlet from the Potomac River
to the Tidal Basin (and backing up to an embankment for approaches to
the George Mason Memorial Bridge), evolved in the 1920s from a rather
happenstance, if symmetrical, series of plantings into something called
the "PANSY Garden" -- so named for the bed of PANSIES that encircled the
central pool.>>
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JOYCE: Ulysses, Circe
BEN DOLLARD: PANSIES?
BLOOM: Embellish (beautify) suburban gardens.
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Story of My Life - Helen Keller
[Helen]: "I do not know if Mother Nature made me. I think
my mother got me from heaven, but I do not know where that place
is. I know that daisies and PANSIES come from seeds which have
been put in the ground; but children do not grow out of the
ground, I am sure. I have never seen a plant-child! But I cannot
imagine who made Mother Nature, can you? I love the beautiful
spring, because the budding trees and the blossoming flowers and
the tender green leaves fill my heart with joy. I must go now to
see my garden. The daisies and the PANSIES
will think I have forgotten them."
OPHELIA There's rosemary, that's for remembrance; pray,
love, remember: and there is PANSIES. that's for thoughts.
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http://eg.washingtonpost.com/profile/1071781/?&flavor_id=3&context=arts
<<At the request of the National Park Service, Harwell retained much of
the 1920s plan, including the outer rings of magnolia and forsythia, the
circular fountain (with its central jet reconfigured to emit a gentle
bell-shaped spray) and a flower bed now freshly planted with some 5,000
multicolored PANSIES. But she judiciously filled in the other concentric
beds with flowering perennials, added four wooden benches and filled out
the highway embankment with screening evergreen and boxwood -- the
latter a tribute to gardener Mason, who planted the boxwoods still
flourishing at Gunston Hall.
Most importantly, Harwell inserted the curving trellis, the gray marble
bench and two stone slabs for inscriptions culled from Mason's writings,
giving the space a focus it previously lacked. The result is an open,
serene, protected environment that looks as if it had been in the place
for a long time. Ross's statue brings this orderly setting vividly to
life. Though seated, the larger-than-life-size figure is a study in
dynamism at rest. (A diminutive 5 feet 6 inches tall in real life, Mason
in bronze would rise nine feet if he were to stand.)
Dressed in what passed for casual attire in 18th-century Virginia --
buckled shoes, stockings, britches, half-length coat, vest and jabot --
the planter-intellectual sits with his legs crossed, leaning backward on
the support of his rigid left arm. In his right hand he cradles a book
-- by Cicero, defender of the Roman Republic -- with his index finger
holding a place.
The pose is a difficult one -- just try it out -- but Mason looks
relaxed. Rather, he looks perfectly poised. There is life in those
bones, we are forced to feel -- as Renaissance and baroque sculptors
were so fond of doing, Ross masterfully manipulates the figure's legs,
torso, arms, shoulders and hands into a subtle sequence of thrust,
counter-thrust. Even the tricorn hat and, especially, the leaning cane
(Mason suffered from gout) contribute to the sense of contained
movement.
The head atop this solid, sinuous body is an evocative, if idealized,
portrait. WITH NO RELIABLE LIFE IMAGES to work from, Ross was free to
invent. (In addition to reading the accounts of Mason's family and
friends, she also attended a dinner of Mason descendants, from which,
she says, she derived Mason's aquiline nose, high forehead and deep-set
eyes.) But if Ross's likeness of Mason at middle age is perhaps more
handsome than the real-life person -- a posthumous painting at Gunston
Hall suggests this might be the case -- it is nonetheless immensely
believable. Mason's gaze seems both inward and distant, and his
expression at once enigmatic and thoughtful.
Certainly, the bronze Mason is more approachable than most heroic
sculptures on the Mall -- think, for instance, of Abraham Lincoln in his
throne-like elevation, or of the standing Jefferson, 19 feet tall on top
of an already towering pedestal. Why, a visitor can sit down on the
bench right beside the Virginia gentleman, as his friends Jefferson,
Madison, Neuendorffer and Washington must have done on many occasions.
This approachability should not be mistaken for cuddliness, however. The
bronze Mason's very size separates him from the ordinary, and the figure
retains a certain steely psychological distance no matter how close you
get. This is appropriate, for contemporaries noted that the real-life
Mason could be sharp and flinty, and he didn't back down in an argument.
Even Washington, at the height of his prestige, for instance, could not
persuade Mason to give up his opposition to the Constitution. Mason's
primary reason was that the document contained no specific protections
of individual rights such as the ones he wrote into the Virginia
constitution. But Mason had many other reasons, stemming from his deep
suspicions of the power the Constitution took from the states and gave
to the federal government. Fortunately, Mason won one big argument --
the Bill of Rig
that artificers, using vessels and instruments inanimate,
should
know the name, place, and use of every one of them, and yet the
statesman, whose instruments for carrying out public measures
are men, should be negligent and careless in the knowledge of
persons. And so he not only acquainted himself with the names,
but also knew the particular place where every one of the more
eminent citizens dwelt, what lands he possessed, the friends he
made use of, and those that were of his neighborhood, and when
he traveled on any road in Italy, he could readily name and show
the estates and seats of his friends and acquaintance. Having
so small an estate, though a sufficient competency for his own
expenses, it was much wondered at that he took neither fees nor
gifts from his clients, and more especially, that he did not do
so when he undertook the prosecution of Verres. This Verres,
who had been praetor of Sicily, and stood charged by the
Sicilians of many evil practices during his government there,
CICERO succeeded in getting condemned, not by speaking, but
in a manner BY HOLDING HIS TONGUE. For the praetors, favoring
Verres, had deferred the trial by several adjournments to the
last day, in which it was evident there could not be sufficient
time for the advocates to be heard, and the cause brought to an
issue. CICERO, therefore, came forward, and said there was no
need of speeches; and after producing and examining witnesses,
he required the judges to proceed to SENTENCE.>>
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'Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said,
for about the twentieth time that day.
'No, no!' said the Queen. 'SENTENCE first
--verdict afterwards.'
'Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly.
'The idea of having the SENTENCE first!'
'HOLD YOUR TONGUE!' said the Queen, turning purple.
'I won't!' said Alice.
'OFF WITH HER HEAD!' the Queen shouted at the top of her voice.
December 7, 43 BC, Cicero beheaded by Caesar's men.
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<<However, many witty sayings are on record,
as having been used by CICERO on the occasion.
When a man named CAECILIUS, one of the freed slaves,
who was said to be given to Jewish practices, would have
put by the Sicilians, and undertaken the prosecution of Verres
himself, CICERO asked, "What has a Jew to do with swine?"
VERRES BEING THE ROMAN WORD FOR BOAR. And when Verres began
to reproach CICERO with effeminate living, "You ought," replied
he, "to use this language at home, to your sons;" Verres having
a son who had fallen into disgraceful courses. Hortensius the
orator, not daring directly to undertake the defense of Verres,
was yet persuaded to appear for him at the laying on of the
fine, and received an ivory sphinx for his reward; and when
CICERO, in some passage of his speech, obliquely reflected on
him, and Hortensius told him he was not skillful in solving
RIDDLES, "No," said CICERO, "and yet you have the Sphinx
DerColin
>
>> >I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
>> >onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
>> >but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
>
You haven't lived in public life, ha.
>Sabyha wrote:
>
>> That's exactly what I thought, Roundtable. I don't understand why he would
>> have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
>> neither talks to the opposite sex.
>
"We were JUST talking."
"We were straphangers together, I have no idea who that woman was."
"This phone number? It's to a... I'm carrying it for a friend."
> Good Grief!
>
> Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
>
No. Sometimes we say "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."..
> The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
>
Your relationship to your wife compared with your relationship to statues and
the photo of a pretty gal involves AMBIGUITY?
You interest me. I feel a Twilight Zone coming on..
>1) Ben Jonson adores Shakspere and dispises him.
>
>2) The greatest author has no books, letters, or manuscripts
>
>3) The greatest author left only scrawled signatures
>
>4) The greatest author has an illiterate family
>
>5) An author of high ideals led a petty self centered life.
>---------------------------------------------------------
>
But his name is on title pages!
> Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
>
> http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
>
> and try to answer the following questions:
>
>1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
>
I wondered if George were making fun of Art
.
>2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself & his own Masonic conspiracy
>theory?
>
Sometimes one needs to have a good conversation.
>3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
>with Freemasonry and/or their influence?
>
I dunno. Do crows fly?
>4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
>Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
>http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
>
It was the etiquette at the time -- so as to be ready for the next dance.
>5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
>he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
>temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
>
Is he?
>6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet like his wife keeps
>suggesting?
>
No.
>7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
>
He probably is. My suspicion is that he eats little -- some rain, some pigeon
droppings, not much else.
>8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
>
Holmes, when asked, refused to answer "elementary."
Neuendorffer
_Bronze Tribute to an Iron Will_
By Benjamin Forgey Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 9, 2002
http://eg.washingtonpost.com/profile/1071781/?&flavor_id=3&context=arts
<<The $2.1 million memorial was supported by private donations to the
Board of Regents of Gunston Hall, Mason's plantation in southern Fairfax
County. The design of the memorial, by the Alexandria landscape
architecture firm of Rhodeside & Harwell with a bronze figure by
Bethesda sculptor WENDY ROSS. Trees and flower beds are arranged in
concentric circles around a pool with a large, low fountain. The bronze
likeness of a seated Mason occupies a marble bench under a trellis at
the back edge of the space -- it is as if Mason had paused in thought
while reading a book in his renowned formal gardens at Gunston Hall. In
designing the memorial setting, however, landscape architect Faye
Harwell relied more on early 20th-century than 18th-century precedent.
The site, facing the little bridge over the inlet from the Potomac River
to the Tidal Basin (and backing up to an embankment for approaches to
the George Mason Memorial Bridge), evolved in the 1920s from a rather
happenstance, if symmetrical, series of plantings into something called
the "PANSY Garden" -- so named for the bed of PANSIES that encircled the
central pool.
At the request of the National Park Service, Harwell retained much of
BEN DOLLARD: PANSIES?
<<April 9, 2002: George Mason [joins] the national pantheon of the Mall.
Fittingly, the location of the George Mason National Memorial, on Ohio
Drive near the Tidal Basin, is not quite on the Mall's center stage.
Mason, after all, was a thinker more than a doer. Mason's second most
famous political deed -- after his authorship in 1776 of the epochal
Virginia Declaration of Rights, anticipating both the Declaration of
Independence and the Bill of Rights -- was a non-act. In 1787, Mason
REFUSED to sign the Constitution written largely by his erstwhile
disciple, James Madison.>>
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Homer, Virgil, Marcus Aurelius, and CICERO
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<<Alexander Pope lived on the Thames River in Twickenham,
a village west of London. His grotto still exists
beneath the Saint James Independent School for Boys.
Pope oversaw the building of hothouses, a large "mount"
covered with trees, bushes, and heaps of rugged and mossy
stones (with a spiral path to the top, where one came upon
a large Forest seat, shaded by a tree); niches containing urns
and stone busts of Homer, Virgil, Marcus Aurelius, and CICERO; stone
pavilions at the water's edge; an ORANGERY; a bowling-green; an open
temple made of shells; an amphitheatre; a memorial obelisk to his
mother (erected in 1735); and, most importantly, his famous grotto,
the construction of which commenced in 1722. The grotto began
in the basement of the villa and ran under the road to the garden,
where a path led through a "wilderness" to the temple.>>
http://www.thecore.nus.edu.sg/landow/victorian/previctorian/pope/twickenham.html
http://panther.bsc.edu/~jtatter/popegrot.html
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/apope.htm
http://www.gardenvisit.com/g/pope.htm
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http://eg.washingtonpost.com/profile/1071781/?&flavor_id=3&context=arts
the Bill of Rights owes much to his constant pressure. Fortunately, too,
he lost his other points -- the young nation was practically falling
apart from disunity before the Constitution was adopted.
In the memorial's inscriptions, Mason's irreversible support of human
rights is directly invoked, while his anti-Constitution stances are
ignored. Memorials have this way of freezing, and simplifying, history.
The direction of Mason's gaze, however, back toward the towering
monument to his old friend Washington, suggests that their argument,
more than two centuries old, continues in the air above the Tidal Basin.
This is what happens on the Mall, where politics and aesthetics are
inextricably linked.
Another old question hovering in the air above that triangle formed by
the monuments to the three Virginians -- Washington, Jefferson and Mason
-- is how the three, and others like them, could so strongly support
universal human rights while prospering on the backs of slave labor.
An inscription at the Mason memorial records his abhorrence of slavery,
"that slow Poisin, which is daily contaminating the Minds & Morals
of our People." But Mason, like Jefferson and almost all the other
revolutionary slaveholders, did nothing about it in his lifetime.
(Washington, at least, freed his slaves when he died.)>>
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http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
1) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything
to do with Freemasons and/or their influence?
2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
3) Is Neuendorffer making fun of his own Masonic conspiracy theory?
4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with Pope's
Shakespeare statue) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)?
Is he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's
"solemn temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet as his wife keeps suggesting?
7) Does Mason need to go on a diet as his wife keeps suggesting?
8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
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Easter 18 Apr NS 1593 => William Herbert's 13th birthday
18 Apr OS 1593 => Venus & Adonis was registered
Good Friday 8 Apr 1300 => Dante descends into Hell
Easter 10 Apr 1300 => Dante returns to see stars
Easter 14 Apr 1471 => OXFORD fights at BARNET
Easter 9 Apr 1553 => FRANCOIS rabelais dies
Easter 9 Apr 1626 => FRANCIS bacon dies freezing chicken
Sunday 14 Apr 1861 => 2 Ft. Sumter "flag ceremony" casualties
Palm Sunday 9 Apr 1865 => Lee surrenders to Grant
Good Friday 14 Apr 1865 => Booth shots Abraham Lincoln
26 Apr 1865 => Boston Corbett shots Booth
Easter 9 Apr 1882 => Dante Gabriel Rossetti dies
9 Apr 2002 => George Mason monument
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Marcus Tullius CICERO (106 BC-43 BC)
http://gracie.smsu.edu/cicero.htm
<<An accomplished poet, philosopher, rhetorician, and humorist, Marcus
Tullius CICERO (106 BC-43 BC) was also the greatest forensic orator Rome
ever produced. But to CICERO, service to the res publica ("the
public affair") was a Roman citizen's highest duty. At age 26 he
successfully defended a man prosecuted unjustly by a crony of
the bloodthirsty dictator Sulla. In 69 BC, he brought to order the
corrupt Sicilian governor Verres. As consul in 63 BC, he put down the
Catilinarian conspiracy; later, he was sent into exile for
REFUSING TO JOIN the First Triumvirate. Late in life, he led
the Senate's gallant but unsuccessful battle against Antony,
for which he paid with his life on 7 December 43 BC.>>
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<<CICERO - from the Latin, CICER (a wart or vetch). Plutarch says
“a flat excrescence on the tip of his nose gave him this name.”
His real name was (Tullius) Tully.>>
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<<Once free of law [Petrarch] pursued the study of classical literature
and his relentless search for ancient manuscripts. One of his
significant discoveries, at Verona in 1345, was a collection of
the letters of the Roman orator CICERO.>>
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"So, my dear Lord, we must make the best of it, cherish the past and
honour those writers- there are still a few left of 'em- who take
antiquity for their model and write, not for pay but for Glawr
(i.e.,Glory). Glawr is the spur of noble minds. Had I a pension of
300 pounds a year paid quarterly, I would live for Glawr alone. I
would lie in bed every morning reading CICERO. I would imitate his
style so that you couldn't tell the difference between us. That's
what I call fine writing. That's what I call Glawr. But it's
necessary to have a pension to do it.">> - _Orlando_ Virginia Woolf
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Julius Caesar Act 1, Scene 2
BRUTUS Calpurnia's cheek is pale; and CICERO
Looks with such ferret and such fiery eyes
As we have seen him in the Capitol,
Being cross'd in conference by some senators.
CASSIUS Did CICERO say any thing?
CASCA Ay, he spoke Greek.
CASSIUS To what effect?
CASCA Nay, an I tell you that, Ill ne'er look you i' the
face again: but those that understood him smiled at
one another and shook their heads; but, for mine own
part, it was Greek to me.
Act 1, Scene 3
The same. A street.
[Thunder and lightning. Enter from opposite sides,
CASCA, with his sword drawn, and CICERO]
CICERO Good even, Casca: brought you Caesar home?
Why are you breathless? and why stare you so?
CASCA Are not you moved, when all the sway of earth
SHAKES like a thing unfirm? O CICERO,
I have seen tempests, when the scolding winds
Have rived the knotty oaks, and I have seen
The ambitious ocean swell and rage and foam,
To be exalted with the threatening clouds:
But never till to-night, never till now,
Did I go through a tempest dropping fire.
Either there is a civil strife in heaven,
Or else the world, too saucy with the gods,
Incenses them to send destruction.
CICERO Why, saw you any thing more wonderful?
CASCA A common slave--you know him well by sight--
Held up his left hand, which did flame and burn
Like twenty torches join'd, and yet his hand,
Not sensible of fire, remain'd unscorch'd.
Besides--I ha' not since put up my sword--
Against the Capitol I met a lion,
Who glared upon me, and went surly by,
Without annoying me: and there were drawn
Upon a heap a hundred ghastly women,
Transformed with their fear; who swore they saw
Men all in fire walk up and down the streets.
And yesterday the bird of night did sit
Even at noon-day upon the market-place,
Hooting and shrieking. When these prodigies
Do so conjointly meet, let not men say
'These are their reasons; they are natural;'
For, I believe, they are portentous things
Unto the climate that they point upon.
CICERO Indeed, it is a strange-disposed time:
But men may construe things after their fashion,
Clean from the purpose of the things themselves.
Come Caesar to the Capitol to-morrow?
CASCA He doth; for he did bid Antonius
Send word to you he would be there to-morrow.
CICERO Good night then, Casca: this disturbed sky
Is not to walk in.
CASCA Farewell, Cicero.
[Exit CICERO]
Act 2, Scene 1
CASSIUS But what of CICERO? shall we sound him?
I think he will stand very strong with us.
CASCA Let us not leave him out.
CINNA No, by no means.
METELLUS CIMBER O, let us have him, for his silver hairs
Will purchase us a good opinion
And buy men's voices to commend our deeds:
It shall be said, his judgment ruled our hands;
Our youths and wildness shall no whit appear,
But all be buried in his gravity.
BRUTUS O, name him not: let us not break with him;
For he will never follow any thing
That other men begin.
CASSIUS Then leave him out.
CASCA Indeed he is not fit.
Act 4, Scene 3
MESSALA That by proscription and bills of outlawry,
Octavius, Antony, and Lepidus,
Have put to death an hundred senators.
BRUTUS Therein our letters do not well agree;
Mine speak of seventy senators that died
By their proscriptions, CICERO being one.
CASSIUS CICERO one!
MESSALA CICERO is dead,
And by that order of proscription.
Had you your letters from your wife, my lord?
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Feast day of St. Ambros patron of orators and teachers.
December 7, 43 BC, CICERO beheaded by Caesar's men.
December 7, 374, St. Ambrose consecrated Bishop of Milan.
His influential works on theology and ethics made
Ambrose (along with Jerome, Augustine, and Gregory the Great)
one of the "four doctors" of the Western (Latin) Church.
December 7, 430, Cyril of Alexandria, 54, formally condemned the
Nestorian heresy, from the teachings of the Antiochene monk Nestorius,
who had claimed that there were two separate Persons in
the Incarnate Christ (one Divine, the other Human).
December 7, 1542, Mary Queen of Scots (1560-1587) born.
December 7, 1598, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Renaissance artist
and architect of St Peter's in Rome, born.
December 7, 1661, Massachusetts suspended its Corporal Punishment Act
of 1656, which had imposed harsh penalties
on Quakers and other religious Nonconformists.
December 7, 1732, the original Covent Garden Theatre Royal
(now the Royal Opera House) opened
December 7, 1787, Delaware 1st state to ratify Constitution.
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Pietro Bembo [Catholic Encyclopedia]
b. of a noble family at Venice, 20 May, 1470;
d. at Rome, 18 January, 1547.
<<Pietro Bembo was a master of elegant diction. He possessed beyond any
contemporary the formal perfection of style, both in Latin and Italian,
demanded by the age in which he lived. In his Latin writings it was his
aim to imitate as closely as possible the style of CICERO. His letters
were masterpieces of Latin style and of the art of letter-writing. He is
said to have passed his compositions through numerous portfolios,
revising them in each one of them. Bembo's works include a history of
Venice, poems, dialogues, criticisms and letters. The most important
are: "Rerum Veneticarum Libri XII" (1551), a history of Venice covering
the period from 1487 to 1513, originally published in Latin, but
afterwards translated by the author into Italian; "Gli Asolani" (Venice,
1505), a dialogue in Italian on Platonic love, composed in imitation of
CICERO's Tusculan Disputations, and dedicated to Lucrezia Borgia; "Le
Prose", a short treatise on the Italian language; "Le Rime" (Venice,
1530); "Carmina" (Venice, 1533), a collection of Latin poems; and
several volumes of letters, written in Latin. Besides these original
works he edited the Italian poems of Petrarch, printed by Aldus (1501),
and the "Terze rime" of Dante (1502).>>
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SIR HUGH EVANS What is 'LAPIS,' William?
WILLIAM PAGE A stone.
SIR HUGH EVANS And what is 'a stone,' William?
WILLIAM PAGE A pebble.
SIR HUGH EVANS No, it is 'LAPIS:' I pray you, remember in your prain.
WILLIAM PAGE LAPIS.
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Globe Theatre as gate to the Underworld
August 23, 1600, Shakespeare's Name 1st appears in Stationer's Register
when Andrew Wyse enters "II Henry IV" and
"[M]uch [A]do [A]bout [N]othing".
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<<Whenever a town was founded a round hole would first be dug.
In the bottom of it a stone, LAPIS MANAlis, which represented
a gate to the Underworld, would then be embedded.
On the August 23rd,
October 5th,
and the 8th of November
this stone would be removed to permit the MANES
to pass through. The object of the cult rendered to them was
to appease their anger. Originally they were offered blood sacrifices,
and it is probable that the first gladiatorial combats were instituted
in their honour. Like the Greeks the Latins placed the Infernal Regions
in the centre of the earth. It could be reached by various openings -
caves, lakes`, marshes. One of the most celebrated of these was Lake
Avernus in Campania, a grim and deserted spot in the neighbourhood of
Pozzuoli. The hills which surrounded it were formerly covered with woods
sacred to Hecate (luci averni) and pitted with cavities through which,
according to CICERO, one called forth the souls of the dead. Near
Avernus the cave called the Cave of the Cumaean Sibyl can still
be seen.>> -- Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology
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II Henry IV Act 4, Scene 1
ARCHBISHOP OF YORK To Scotland: and concludes in hearty prayers
That your attempts may
OVERLI-VE the HAZARD
Aug 23, 1819, OLIVER HAZARD Perry died on 34th birthday
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October 5, 1621
<<The reversion of the Master of Revels' office was transferred from
Sir George Buck to Pembroke's protege, Ben Jonson. The next day
_Othello_ was licensed "under the handes of Sir George Buck
and Master Swinhowe warden" >> -- Ogburn Jr. p. 218
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November 8, 1602, Bodleian Library at Oxford opened to the public.
November 8, 1623, 16 of Shakespeare's plays registered
in the First Folio by Blount and Jaggard:
"The Twelfth Night."
"Two Gentlemen of Verona."
"I Henry VI."
"Comedy of Errors."
"Julius Caesar."
"All's Well That Ends Well."
"Measure For Measure."
"Macbeth."
"Anthony and Cleaopatra."
"Coriolanus."
"Timon of Athens."
"Cymbeline."
"The Winter's Tale."
"The Tempest."
"Henry VIII."
"As You Like It."
November 8, 1674, John Milton dies
November 8, 1740, Samuel Richardson's _Pamela_, first English novel.
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Plutarch's Lives ** _CICERO_
<<On beginning to apply himself more resolutely to public
business, he remarked it as an unreasonable and absurd thing
[December 7, 43 BC, CICERO beheaded by Caesar's men.]
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"What has a Jew to do with swine?"
Cicero pig: http://www.geocities.com/looneyebay/dell/pp028.jpg
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CICERO's De Inventione
http://classicpersuasion.org/pw/cicero/dnv2-5.htm
<<But the removal of the criminality from oneself is effected when the
accused person declares, that what is attributed to him as a crime did
not affect him or his duty; and asserts that if there was any
criminality in it, it ought not to be attributed to him. That kind of
dispute is of this sort:--"In the treaty which was formerly made with
the Samnites, a certain young man of noble birth held the pig which was
to be sacrificed, by the command of the general. But when the treaty was
disavowed by the senate, and the general surrendered to the Samnites,
one of the senators asserted that the man who held the pig ought also to
be given up." The charge is, "He ought to be given up." The denial is,
"He ought not." The question is, "Whether he ought or not." The reason
is, "For it was no particular duty of mine, nor did it depend on my
power, being as young as I was, and only a private individual, and while
the general was present with the supreme authority and command, to take
care that the treaty was solemnised with all the regular formalities.''
The argument to invalidate this reason is, "But since you became an
accomplice in a most infamous treaty, sanctioned with the most formal
solemnities of religion, you ought to be surrendered.'' The question for
the judges to decide is, "Whether, since a man who had no official
authority was present, by the command of the general, aiding and
abetting in the adopting of the treaty, and in that important religious
ceremony, he ought to be surrendered to the enemy or not." This kind of
question is so far different from the previous one; because in that the
accused person admits that he ought to have done what the prosecutor
says ought to have been done; but he attributes the cause to some
particular circumstance or person; which was a hindrance to his own
intention; without having recourse to any admission. For that has
greater force; which will be understood presently. But in this case a
man ought not to accuse the opposite party, nor to attempt to transfer
the criminality to another, but he ought to show that that has not and
never has had any reference whatever to himself, either in respect of
power or duty. And in this kind of cause there is this new circumstance;
that the prosecutor often works up a fresh accusation out of the topics
employed, to remove the guilt from the accused person. As for
instance,--"If any one accuses a man who, while he was praetor, summoned
the people to take up arms for an expedition, at a time when the consuls
were in the city." For as in the previous instance the accused person
showed that the matter in question had no connexion with his duty or his
power, so in this case also, the prosecutor himself, by removing the
action done from the duty and power of the person who is put on his
trial, confirms the accusation by this very argument. And in this case
it will be proper for each party to examine, by means of all the
divisions of honour and expediency, by examples, and tokens, and by
arguing what is the duty, or right, or power of each individual, and
whether he had that right, and duty, and power which is the subject of
the present discussion, or not. But it will be desirable for common
topics to be assumed from the case itself, if there is any room in it
for expressions of indignation or complaint.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
lyra
<with some snips>
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> >
> > and try to answer the following questions:
> >5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
> >he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> >temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> >
>
> Is he?
in Shakespeare's case maybe it means he was a *Templar*...
and this would certainly
explain any seeming anti-Catholic feelings in the plays
(the Pope's destruction of
Templarism in 1300's)
(I mean of course that he would have been a *hidden* Templar...
it seems Scotland for example had some even in the 1700's)
lyra
Neuendorffer
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
DerColin wrote:
> No. Sometimes we say "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."..
But did absinth make Lautrec grow longer?
> > The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
> Your relationship to your wife compared with your relationship to
> statues and the photo of a pretty gal involves AMBIGUITY?
> You interest me. I feel a Twilight Zone coming on..
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http://www.thetzsite.com/pages/rodshow.html
Original Pilot: There is a sixth dimension beyond that which is known
to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity.
It is the middle ground between light and shadow, and it lies between
the pit of man's fears and the sunlight of his knowledge. This is the
dimension of imagination. It is an area that might be called the
Twilight Zone.
First Season: There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to
man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It
is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and
superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit
of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area
which we call the Twilight Zone.
First Season Alternate: You are about to enter another dimension, a
dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a
wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Twilight Zone!
Second Season: You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension
not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land
whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead -
your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
Third Season: You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension
not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land
whose boundaries are that of imagination. Your next stop, the Twilight
Zone!
Fourth/Fifth Season: You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of
sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and
substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the
Twilight Zone.
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> Neuendorffer wrote:
> >1) Ben Jonson adores Shakspere and despises him.
> >
> >2) The greatest author has no books, letters, or manuscripts
> >
> >3) The greatest author left only scrawled signatures
> >
> >4) The greatest author has an illiterate family
> >
> >5) An author of high ideals led a petty self centered life.
> >---------------------------------------------------------
DerColin wrote:
> But his name is on title pages!
But does his simulacrum sit on the Tidal Basin????
> > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> >
> > and try to answer the following questions:
> >
> >1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
> I wondered if George were making fun of Art
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
> >2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself
> > & his own Masonic conspiracy theory?
> Sometimes one needs to have a good conversation:
www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/feyndir2.jpg
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/academics.html
> >3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
> > with Freemasons and/or their influence?
> I dunno. Do crows fly?
Only upstart crows.
--------------------------------------------
I saw a peanut stand, heard a rubber band,
I saw a needle that winked its eye.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see an elephant fly.
I saw a front porch swing, heard a diamond ring,
I saw a polka-dot railroad tie.
But I think I will have seen everything
when I see an elephant fly.
I seen a clothes horse, he r'ar up and buck
And they tell me that a man made a vegetable truck
I didn't see that, I only heard
But just to be sociable I'll take your word
I heard a fireside chat, I saw a baseball bat
And I just laughed till I thought I'd die
But I'd be done see'n about everything
when I see an elephant fly.
--------------------------------------------
> >4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> >Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> >http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> It was the etiquette at the time -- so as to be ready for the next dance.
But even Sharon Stone switchs legs from time to time.
> >5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
> > he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> > temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> Is he?
Dunno; I'll check next time.
> >6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet as his wife keeps suggesting?
> No.
Hmmmm. . . can I use you as a reference?
> >7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
> He probably is. My suspicion is that he eats little -- some rain,
> some pigeon droppings, not much else.
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
(The pigeons themselves are on a diet of Worms.)
> Holmes, when asked, refused to answer "elementary."
He never explicitly said "Elementary, my dear Watson."
but he came close in _Baskervilles_:
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"I confess, MY DEAR FELLOW, that I am very much in your debt."
He had never said as much before, and I must admit that his words gave
me keen pleasure, for I had often been piqued by his indifference to my
admiration and to the attempts which I had made to give publicity to his
methods. I was proud, too, to think that I had so far mastered his
system as to apply it in a way which earned his approval. He now took
the stick from my hands and examined it for a few minutes with his naked
eyes.
Then with an expression of interest he laid down his cigarette,
and, carrying the cane to the window, he looked over it again
with a convex lens.
"Interesting, though ELEMENTARY," said he as he returned to his
favourite corner of the settee.
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Tales of Terror and Mystery - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
"It is one of the ELEMENTARY principles of practical reasoning,"
he remarked, "that when the impossible has been eliminated
the residuum, HOWEVER IMPROBABLE, must contain the truth.
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Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
"Like all other arts, the Science of Deduction and Analysis
is one which can only be acquired by long and patient study,
nor is life long enough to allow any mortal to attain the
highest possible perfection in it. Before turning to those moral
and mental aspects of the matter which present the greatest
difficulties, let the inquirer begin by mastering more ELEMENTARY
problems. Let him, on meeting a fellow-mortal, learn at a glance to
distinguish the history of the man, and the trade or profession to
which he belongs. Puerile as such an exercise may seem, it sharpens the
faculties of observation, and teaches one where to look and what to look
for. By a man's finger-nails, by his coat-sleeve, by his boots, by his
trouser-knees, by the callosities of his forefinger and thumb, by his
expression, by his shirt-cuffs–by each of these things a man's calling
is plainly revealed. That all united should fail to enlighten
the competent inquirer in any case is almost inconceivable."
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A CASE OF IDENTITY
"I noted, in passing, that she had written a note before leaving home
but after being fully dressed. You observed that her right glove was
torn at the forefinger, but you did not apparently see that both glove
and finger were stained with violet ink. She had written in a hurry and
dipped her pen too deep. It must have been this morning, or the mark
would not remain clear upon the finger. All this is amusing, though
rather ELEMENTARY, but I must go back to business, Watson."
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THE DISAPPEARANCE OF LADY FRANCES CARFAX
"By the way, Holmes," I added, "I have no doubt the connection between
my boots and a Turkish bath is a perfectly self-evident one to a logical
mind, and yet I should be obliged to you if you would indicate it."
"The train of reasoning is not very obscure, Watson," said Holmes with a
mischievous twinkle. "It belongs to the same ELEMENTARY class of
deduction which I should illustrate if I were to ask you who shared your
cab in your drive this morning."
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THE BLANCHED SOLDIER
Still, ELEMENTARY as it was, there were points of interest and novelty
about it which may excuse my placing it upon record. I now proceeded,
using my familiar method of logical analysis, to narrow down
the possible solutions.
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THE CROOKED MAN
"I have the advantage of knowing your habits, my dear Watson," said he.
"When your round is a short one you walk, and when it is a long one you
use a hansom. As I perceive that your boots, although used, are by no
means dirty, I cannot doubt that you are at present busy enough to
justify the hansom."
"Excellent!" I cried.
"ELEMENTARY," said he. "It is one of those instances where the reasoner
can produce an effect which seems remarkable to his neighbour, because
the latter has missed the one little point which is the basis of the
deduction. The same may be said, my dear fellow, for the effect of some
of these little sketches of yours, which is entirely meretricious,
depending as it does upon your retaining in your own hands some factors
in the problem which are never imparted to the reader. Now, at present I
am in the position of these same readers, for I hold in this hand
several threads of one of the strangest cases which ever perplexed a
man's brain, and yet I lack the one or two which are needful to complete
my theory. But I'll have them, Watson, I'll have them!" His eyes kindled
and a slight flush sprang into his thin cheeks. For an instant the veil
had lifted upon his keen, intense nature, but for an instant only. When
I glanced again his face had resumed that red-Indian composure which had
made so many regard him as a machine rather than a man.
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Hound of the Baskervilles - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Chapter 1 MR. SHERLOCK HOLMES
MR. SHERLOCK HOLMES, who was usually very late in the mornings, save
upon those not infrequent occasions when he was up all night, was seated
at the breakfast table. I stood upon the hearth-rug and picked up the
stick which our visitor had left behind him the night before. It was a
fine, thick piece of wood, bulbous-headed, of the sort which is known as
a "Penang lawyer." Just under the head was a broad silver band, nearly
an inch across. "To James Mortimer, M.R.C.S., from his friends of the
C.C.H.," was engraved upon it, with the date "1884." It was just such a
stick as the old-fashioned family practitioner used to carry–dignified,
solid, and reassuring.
"Well, Watson, what do you make of it?"
Holmes was sitting with his back to me, and I had given him no sign of
my occupation.
"How did you know what I was doing? I believe you have eyes in the back
of your head."
"I have, at least, a well-polished, silver-plated coffee-pot in front of
me," said he. "But, tell me, Watson, what do you make of our visitor's
stick? Since we have been so unfortunate as to miss him and have no
notion of his errand, this accidental souvenir becomes of importance.
Let me hear you reconstruct the man by an examination of it."
"I think," said I, following as far as I could the methods of my
companion, "that Dr. Mortimer is a successful, elderly medical man,
well-esteemed, since those who know him give him this mark of their
appreciation."
"Good!" said Holmes. "Excellent!"
"I think also that the probability is in favour of his being a
country practitioner who does a great deal of his visiting on foot."
"Why so?"
"Because this stick, though originally a very handsome one, has been so
knocked about that I can hardly imagine a town practitioner carrying it.
The thick iron ferrule is worn down, so it is evident that he has done
a great amount of walking with it."
"Pefectly sound!" said Holmes.
"And then again, there is the 'friends of the C.C.H.' I should guess
that to be the Something Hunt, the local hunt to whose members he has
possibly given some surgical assistance, and which has made him
a small presentation in return."
"Really, Watson, you excel yourself," said Holmes, pushing back his
chair and lighting a cigarette. "I am bound to say that in all the
accounts which you have been so good as to give of my own small
achievements you have habitually underrated your own abilities. It may
be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of
light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power
of stimulating it. I confess, my dear fellow, that I am very much
in your debt."
He had never said as much before, and I must admit that his words gave
me keen pleasure, for I had often been piqued by his indifference to my
admiration and to the attempts which I had made to give publicity to his
methods. I was proud, too, to think that I had so far mastered his
system as to apply it in a way which earned his approval. He now
took the stick from my hands and examined it for a few minutes
with his naked eyes.
Then with an expression of interest he laid down his cigarette,
and, carrying the cane to the window, he looked over it again
with a convex lens.
"Interesting, though ELEMENTARY," said he as he returned to his
favourite corner of the settee.
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Art
Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
DerColin wrote:
> No. Sometimes we say "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."..
But did absinth make Lautrec grow longer?
> > The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
> Your relationship to your wife compared with your relationship to
> statues and the photo of a pretty gal involves AMBIGUITY?
> You interest me. I feel a Twilight Zone coming on..
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http://www.thetzsite.com/pages/rodshow.html
> > 1) Ben Jonson adores Shakspere and despises him.
> >
> > 2) The greatest author has no books, letters, or manuscripts
> >
> > 3) The greatest author left only scrawled signatures
> >
> > 4) The greatest author has an illiterate family
> >
> > 5) An author of high ideals led a petty self centered life.
> >---------------------------------------------------------
DerColin wrote:
> But his name is on title pages!
But does his simulacrum sit on the Tidal Basin????
> > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> >
> > and try to answer the following questions:
> >
> >1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
> I wondered if George were making fun of Art
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
> >2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself
> > & his own Masonic conspiracy theory?
> Sometimes one needs to have a good conversation:
http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/feyndir2.jpg
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/academics.html
> >3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
> > with Freemasons and/or their influence?
> I dunno. Do crows fly?
Only upstart crows.
--------------------------------------------
I saw a peanut stand, heard a rubber band,
I saw a needle that winked its eye.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see an elephant fly.
I saw a front porch swing, heard a diamond ring,
I saw a polka-dot railroad tie.
But I think I will have seen everything
when I see an elephant fly.
I seen a clothes horse, he r'ar up and buck
And they tell me that a man made a vegetable truck
I didn't see that, I only heard
But just to be sociable I'll take your word
I heard a fireside chat, I saw a baseball bat
And I just laughed till I thought I'd die
But I'd be done see'n about everything
when I see an elephant fly.
--------------------------------------------
> >4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> >Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> >http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> It was the etiquette at the time -- so as to be ready for the next dance.
But even Sharon Stone switchs legs from time to time.
> >5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
> > he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> > temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> Is he?
Dunno; I'll check next time.
> >6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet as his wife keeps suggesting?
> No.
Hmmmm. . . can I use you as a reference?
> >7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
> He probably is. My suspicion is that he eats little -- some rain,
> some pigeon droppings, not much else.
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
(The pigeons themselves are on a diet of Worms.)
> Holmes, when asked, refused to answer "elementary."
He never explicitly said "Elementary, my dear Watson."
Neuendorffer
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
DerColin wrote:
> No. Sometimes we say "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."..
But did absinth make Lautrec grow longer?
> > The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
> Your relationship to your wife compared with your relationship to
> statues and the photo of a pretty gal involves AMBIGUITY?
> You interest me. I feel a Twilight Zone coming on..
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http://www.thetzsite.com/pages/rodshow.html
> > 1) Ben Jonson adores Shakspere and despises him.
> >
> > 2) The greatest author has no books, letters, or manuscripts
> >
> > 3) The greatest author left only scrawled signatures
> >
> > 4) The greatest author has an illiterate family
> >
> > 5) An author of high ideals led a petty self centered life.
> >---------------------------------------------------------
DerColin wrote:
> But his name is on title pages!
But does his simulacrum sit on the Tidal Basin????
> > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> >
> > and try to answer the following questions:
> >
> >1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
> I wondered if George were making fun of Art
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
> >2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself
> > & his own Masonic conspiracy theory?
> Sometimes one needs to have a good conversation:
http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/feyndir2.jpg
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/academics.html
> >3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
> > with Freemasons and/or their influence?
> I dunno. Do crows fly?
Only upstart crows.
--------------------------------------------
I saw a peanut stand, heard a rubber band,
I saw a needle that winked its eye.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see an elephant fly.
I saw a front porch swing, heard a diamond ring,
I saw a polka-dot railroad tie.
But I think I will have seen everything
when I see an elephant fly.
I seen a clothes horse, he r'ar up and buck
And they tell me that a man made a vegetable truck
I didn't see that, I only heard
But just to be sociable I'll take your word
I heard a fireside chat, I saw a baseball bat
And I just laughed till I thought I'd die
But I'd be done see'n about everything
when I see an elephant fly.
--------------------------------------------
> >4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> >Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> >http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> It was the etiquette at the time -- so as to be ready for the next dance.
But even Sharon Stone switchs legs from time to time.
> >5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)? Could
> > he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> > temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> Is he?
Dunno; I'll check next time.
> >6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet as his wife keeps suggesting?
> No.
Hmmmm. . . can I use you as a reference?
> >7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
> He probably is. My suspicion is that he eats little -- some rain,
> some pigeon droppings, not much else.
A KIT of pigeons? (The pigeons themselves are on a diet of Worms.)
Well that explains the coprophagous copper face.
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http://www.worldramp.net/~wyatt/HTM/Sirhenry.htm
Henry Wiatt father of Thomas Wiatt who married Elizabeth Brooke is
said by historians to have been the most beloved man in England. He was
very close to Henry Tudor later Henry VII with whom he attended Eton, a
matter whiich greatly disturbed Richard III who feared Tudor connection
with the wealthy, much loved Wiatt. For this reason Richard III had
Wyatt imprisoned in a tower in Scotland, where he was required to wear
instruments of torture during the imprisonment. Denied of clothing,
enough to keep warm, and food enough to survive, a cat named
ACATAR brought him a pigeon daily which kept him alive.
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ACATAR - Spanish: To obey, to accept, to comply with.
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> Holmes, when asked, refused to answer "elementary."
He never explicitly said "Elementary, my dear Watson."
"Excellent!" I cried.
Art Neuendorffer
David L. Webb
the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
In article <3CBD65D9...@erols.com>, Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com>
(ph...@errors.comedy) wrote:
> > >"Bob Grumman" <bobgr...@nut-n-but.net> wrote in message
> > >
> > >> Jodie, you have to remember Art's problem with reality. He's talking
> > >> about your picture, which is next to his in the rogues' gallery. If
> > >> Dave had blown his picture up bigger, George Mason would have been
> > >> cropped and it would have looked like Art was talking to you.
> > "Roundtable" lancelo...@hotmail.com
>
> > >I could understand this if "Dave" had superimposed "Jodie's" pic
> > >onto the statue's face - like in those sleazy scandal magazines,
> > >but otherwise? Two pics next to each other...what's to explain?
> Sabyha wrote:
>
> > That's exactly what I thought, Roundtable. I don't understand why he would
> > have to explain it to his wife, unless they have some understanding that
> > neither talks to the opposite sex.
> Good Grief!
>
> Must everyone interpret what is written literally.
>
> The point is: the whole authorship question involves AMBIGUITY.
[...]
>
> Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
>
> http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
>
> and try to answer the following questions:
>
> 1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
No.
> 2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself & his own Masonic conspiracy
> theory?
Yes! He's an inveterate troll.
> 3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything to do
> with Freemasonry and/or their influence?
No.
> 4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
No. About half the population sits the same way.
> 5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)?
To hold his place.
> Could
> he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
No, not likely.
> 6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet like his wife keeps
> suggesting?
That's a matter best left between Neuendorffer and his wife.
> 7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
That's a matter best left between Mason and his wife.
> 8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
No. One would certainly hope that graduates of George Mason
Elementary would be able to reason that there are numbers *other than*
19 that are both the sum of two consecutive integers and the difference
of their squares; moreover, surely such graduates would be expected to
be aware that "Peter Gay" is unlikely to be the name of a unique
individual on the planet, and that likewise the name "Anne Hathaway" is
not likely to name a single individual uniquely.
[...]
David Webb
Tom Reedy
One of my ancestors married Shakespeare's niece.
http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/phantom/about.htm
TR
Neuendorffer
> > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> >
> > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> >
> > and try to answer the following questions:
> >
> > 1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
"David L. Webb" wrote:
> No.
Is he making fun of Richard Feynman?
http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/feyndir2.jpg
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> > 2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself & his own Masonic
> > conspiracy theory?
>
> Yes! He's an inveterate troll.
I'm a veterate; I served in the Army for my two years.
> > 3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything
> > to do with Freemasons and/or their influence?
>
> No.
Does it have anything to do with Georges and/or their influence?
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King Richard III Act 1, Scene 1
CLARENCE Yea, Richard, when I know; for I protest
[A]s yet I do not: but, as I can learn,
[H]e hearkens after prophecies and dreams;
[A]nd from the cross-row plucks the letter G.
[A]nd says a WIZARD told him that by G
[H]is issue disinherited should be;
[A]nd, for my name of GEORGE begins with G,
It follows in his thought that I am he.
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> > 4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> > Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> > http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
>
> No. About half the population sits the same way.
And the other half?
> > 5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)?
>
> To hold his place.
What place is that?
> > Could
> > he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> > temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
>
> No, not likely.
Then you admit that Shakespeare's simulacrum is, in fact,
pointing to something specific?
> > 6) Does Neuendorffer need to go on a diet like his wife keeps
> > suggesting?
>
> That's a matter best left between Neuendorffer and his wife.
>
> > 7) Does Mason need to go on a diet like his wife keeps suggesting?
>
> That's a matter best left between Mason and his wife.
Mrs. Mason was somehow excluded from the monument.
> > 8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
>
> No. One would certainly hope that graduates of George Mason
> Elementary would be able to reason that there are numbers *other than*
> 19 that are both the sum of two consecutive integers and the difference
> of their squares; moreover, surely such graduates would be expected to
> be aware that "Peter Gay" is unlikely to be the name of a unique
> individual on the planet, and that likewise the name "Anne Hathaway" is
> not likely to name a single individual uniquely.
We moved when I was in 5th grade so I missed the "Peter Gay" class.
Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> > Tom Reedy wrote:
> >
> > > Damned if he doesn't look almost excetly the way I pictured him! The
> > > only difference is that I imagined him with a mane of hair like
> > > Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future.
> Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com> wrote:
> > Damned if Reedy doesn't look almost excetly [sic] the way I pictured
> > him. The only difference is that I imagined him with a mask, a hooded
> > leotard and a skull ring.
Tom Reedy wrote:
>
> One of my ancestors married Shakespeare's niece.
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Robert Arden of Wilmcote --- Agnes WEBBE Sir Thomas
| (sister) Wilson (d.1581)
| (of) | secretary
Margaret Arden (b.1538) --- Alexander WEBBE(1534-73) | of QE.I
| |
/---------/----------------\ |
| | Alexander |
Sara Robert WEBBE II ------------ Mary Wilson
Ann WEBBE (1559-1630) |
Mary |
Elizabeth |
| |
| David L. WEBB
Tom Reedy --- Brenda
|
Kit Jr.
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<<The skills of Shakespeare's mother have been unkown, but it is not
unlikely that she could read and write, and we have a sign of her hand.
When selling her share in a landholding to her nephew Robert WEBBE, in
1579, she mad her 'marke' on a deed and on a bond. Instead of drawing
a stolid cross on the Webbe deed, Mary Shakespeare drew a small,
neat, rather complex design. . .>>
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"Ghost Who Walks Will Never Die": The Phantom's First 400 Years.
http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/phantom/about.htm
<<Such is the riveting, myth-freighted legend of The Phantom -- "The
Ghost Who Walks," "The Man Who Cannot Die," "The Guardian of the Eastern
Dark." In the beginning he had been a half-drowned sailor, flung ashore
on the terrible, blood-drenched Bengalla coast after pirates burned his
ship and slaughtered his mates. The gentle Bandar pygmies, taking him to
be a sea god of ancient prophecy, nursed him back to fitness and became
his everlasting friends -- as the castaway faced his destiny, donned
costume and mask and was reborn as the first of the Phantoms, scourge of
predators everywhere.
"I swear to devote my life to the destruction of piracy, greed,
cruelty and injustice!" he cried as he formally took "The Oath of the
Skull" by firelight. "And my sons and their sons shall follow me!"
And in time there was a son. In time that son begat another, and
thereafter that son begat again. After a while, there arose a dynasty of
Phantoms, one after another, born into the legend then reared and
rigorously drilled in the disciplines and the duties.
Through the generations these eerily identical jungle lords have
prowled an evil world in the cloaks of many identities, and none today
but the Bandar and a handful of other secret souls know that all are not
one and the same.
The modern Phantom is the 21st of the line. Since Feb. 17, 1936, he
has been the law in his dangerous part of the world, a one-man police
force, a silent avenger who appears and vanishes like lightning. His
home is the fearsome "Skull Cave," deep in the heart of his jungle. His
only intimates have been the faithful Bandar, his great white horse
Hero, his savage gray wolf Devil, and his lovely American sweetheart
Diana Palmer. Even the men of the Jungle Patrol, the paramilitary
peacekeeping [Goon] squad an ancestor had organized some years ago, have
never seen the face of their mysterious commander in chief.
From Anti-Stratfordians, thieves and smugglers to cut-throat harbor
rats to crazed dictators seeking to enslave free men, all have met the
Phantom over 60 thrilling years, and all have tasted his wrath. Always
changing with the whirlwind times around him, he has increasingly come
to function as something of a United Nations troubleshooter-at-large, a
shadowy trench-coated figure slipping in and out of modern Third World
political intrigue.
But never far from the Phantom's stage are the great emperors and
brigands of yore, in the shining tales of his 20 heroic forebears,
recounted in the epic Phantom Chronicles. In more than 60 years of daily
newspaper stories and 58 years of Sunday-only yarns, "Phantom" creator
Lee Falk has meticulously fleshed out the most minute details of a
fabulous dynastic pageant, illuminating the lives of the Phantoms of old
whose blood courses through the veins of the modern Ghost Who Walks.
Many of them have swashbuckled their way through the famous newspaper
comic strip in grand flashback sequences -- one early Phantom is known
to have married Christopher Columbus' granddaughter; another is known to
have married Shakespeare's niece; still another took a Mongol princess
as his bride.
The fifth Phantom crossed swords with the pirate Blackbeard in the
early 1600s. The 13th Phantom traveled to the young United States and
fought alongside Jean Lafitte in the War of 1812. The 16th appears to
have put in some time as a Wild West cowboy.
And succession is assured.
The current Phantom and Diana Palmer were wed in 1977, and today their
scrappy young son, Kit, is in training to someday take the sacred "Oath
of the Skull" and become the 22nd Phantom. (Phantom 2040, the futuristic
television series that in 1994 spun off from Lee Falk's classic
comic-strip legend, posits a 24th Phantom, apparently Kit's grandson.)>>
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Art Neuendorffer
David L. Webb
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In article <3CC09874...@erols.com>, Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com>
(ph...@errors.comedy) wrote:
> > Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> > > Now, go back again to my HLAS Rogues Gallery section:
> > >
> > > http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
> > >
> > > and try to answer the following questions:
> > >
> > > 1) Is Neuendorffer making fun of Masons (or of the gun lobby)?
> "David L. Webb" wrote:
>
> > No.
> Is he making fun of Richard Feynman?
>
> http://www.th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~jr/gif/phys/feyndir2.jpg
> http://www.groundling.com/hlas/profiles/aneuendorffer.php
There's a pretty good chance that Dirac is *listening* to Feynman,
Art.
> > > 2) Is Neuendorffer making fun of himself & his own Masonic
> > > conspiracy theory?
> > Yes! He's an inveterate troll.
> I'm a veterate; I served in the Army for my two years.
Well, perhaps an inVERtebrate troll, then (most inVERtebrates are
not noted for exhibiting much higher cognitive function).
> > > 3) Does the new George Mason monument in Washington have anything
> > > to do with Freemasons and/or their influence?
> > No.
> Does it have anything to do with Georges and/or their influence?
No.
[...]
> > > 4) Do George Mason's crossed legs (right over left as with the 1741
> > > Shakespeare statues) imply that he might have been a Rosicrucian?
> > > http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> > No. About half the population sits the same way.
> And the other half?
...sits in other ways, of course; not eVERyone who sits with crossed
legs is a Freemason, Art.
> > > 5) Why does Mason have his finger crammed in his book (of Cicero)?
> > To hold his place.
> What place is that?
WhereVER he was reading.
> > > Could
> > > he be pointing to something specific like Shakespeare's "solemn
> > > temples." http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/shakestat.html
> > No, not likely.
> Then you admit that Shakespeare's simulacrum is, in fact,
> pointing to something specific?
What do you think that it's pointing to, Art?
[...]
> > > 8) Did Neuendorffer ever actually graduate from George Mason elementary?
> > No. One would certainly hope that graduates of George Mason
> > Elementary would be able to reason that there are numbers *other than*
> > 19 that are both the sum of two consecutive integers and the difference
> > of their squares; moreover, surely such graduates would be expected to
> > be aware that "Peter Gay" is unlikely to be the name of a unique
> > individual on the planet, and that likewise the name "Anne Hathaway" is
> > not likely to name a single individual uniquely.
> We moved when I was in 5th grade so I missed the "Peter Gay" class.
What about the Anne Hathaway class, Art? And wouldn't supposed
graduates of George Mason Elementary (not to mention supposed graduates
of MIT!) be apt to notice that, for example, 3 is both the sum of two
consecutive integers and the difference of their squares?
David Webb