and that's why
Art Neuendorffer
. The only things in
the kitchen that did not sneeze, were the cook, and a large cat
which was sitting on the hearth and grinning from ear to ear.
'Please would you tell me,' said Alice, a little timidly, for she
was not quite sure whether it was good manners for her to speak
first, 'why your cat grins like that?'
'It's a Cheshire cat,' said the Duchess, 'and that's why.
Pig!'
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High diddle diddle,
The CAT and the fiddle,
the cow jumped over the moon
The little dog laughed
to see such Craft (Craft => Freemasonry)
and the dish ran away with the spoon.
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Elizabeth I <=> "The Cat"
http://roundtable.iwarp.com/photo6.html
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<<It was the custom in England's royal court to dub people with
nicknames. Elizabeth I was called "The Cat" from the way she played
with her Cabinet ministers (as if they were mice). Elizabeth's
"lap-dog" was Robert Dudley. The "dish" was Elizabeth's golden dish
carrier [Edward, Earl of Hertford] and the "spoon" was Elizabeth's
royal taster [(Lady Jane's sister) Katherine Grey => "At night all
cats are grey" - _Don Quixote_] When the 'dish & spoon' secretly
eloped, Elizabeth had them captured and confined to the Tower
of London for seven years.>> -- _The Annotated Mother Goose_
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The Queen smiled and passed on.
'Who are you talking to?' said the King, going up to
Alice, and looking at the Cat's head with great curiosity.
'It's a friend of mine--a Cheshire Cat,' said Alice:
'allow me to introduce it.'
'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King:
'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me
like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
'I've read that in some book, but I don't remember where.'
'Well, it must be removed,' said the King very decidedly,
and he called the Queen, who was passing at the moment,
'My dear! I wish you would have this cat removed!'
The Queen had only one way of settling all difficulties,
great or small. 'Off with his head!'
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B S wrote:
> A she or not a she... that is the question for Shakespeare
> Arts: the full story Anthony Holden
> Sunday April 21, 2002 _The Observer_
> Fresh light has been thrown on William Shakespeare's sexual orientation
> by the discovery of a previously unknown portrait of the playwright's
> patron, Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton - apparently dressed
> as a woman.
> Believed to be the 'fair youth' to whom Shakespeare's early sonnets are
> addressed, Southampton is wearing lipstick, rouge and an elaborate
> double earring. His long hair hangs down in voguish feminine tresses
> and his hand lies on his heart in a rather camp gesture.
> The picture goes on display today - two days before the 438th
> anniversary of Shakespeare's birth - at Hatchlands Park, a National
> Trust property in East Clandon, Surrey, where it was found. It has been
> authenticated by experts and dated to 1590-93, when Shakespeare was
> living in the Southampton household and writing sonnets to the
> 'master-mistress of my passion'.
> For 300 years the painting has belonged to the aristocratic Cobbe
> family, the present occupants of Hatchlands, whose connections with the
> Southamptons have been traced back to the Elizabethan era and beyond.
> 'My family always believed it to be a dull portrait of a female ancestor
> called Lady Norton,' says Alec Cobbe, who inherited the picture among
> his family's collection now displayed at Hatchlands, For centuries the
> picture occupied obscure corners of the family home in Ireland. In
> Cobbe's lifetime it has been back and forth between his homes in Ireland
> and England.
> The National Trust's adviser on art and sculpture, Alastair Laing, who
> first suggested to Cobbe that the portrait was of a young man, declares
> himself 'entirely convinced' of the painting's authenticity and
> provenance. 'It is a very exciting discovery,' he said. Literary scholar
> Sir Frank Kermode also believes it to be a 'remarkable' and 'historic'
> discovery.
> Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002
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http://www.observer.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4398248,00.html
Cobbe has now realised that the archbishop got it wrong. The 'Lady
Norton' in question 'was almost certainly' Lady Elizabeth Norton,
great-granddaughter of the third Earl himself, who inherited the
portrait from her grandfather, the fourth Earl (who had no male heir),
and passed it in the early eighteenth century to the Cobbe children of
her kinswoman, Honor Norton, eventual co-heiress of the Nortons and thus
of this painting. Uncovering the marital connection between the Cobbes
and the Wriothesleys through the Nortons 'has convinced any remaining
doubters,' Cobbe now says. 'This was the real breakthrough.'
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NORtoN, Elizabeth
veRNON, Elizabeth
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Birth January 11 1573, Of, Hodnet, Shropshire, England
Death aft 23 Nov 1655
Father John Of Hodnet VERNON (1546-1592)
Mother Elizabeth DEVEREUX (~1541-1583)
Marriage bef 30 Aug 1598
Wriothesley, Henry, Earl of Southampton 3th
Children Thomas (~1587-)
Penelope (1598-1667)
Thomas (1607-1667)
Penelope WRIOTHESLEY
Birth 8 Nov 1598, Tichfield, Southhamptonshire, England
Death 16 Jul 1667, Brighton?, Sussex, England, Eng
Burial Nov 1667, Brington, Northamptonshire, England
Married 1614 to Spencer, William, Baron Spencer 2nd
Child 1: Spencer, Henry, Earl of Sunderland 1st, b. 1620
Child 2: Spencer, Five Sons
Child 3: Craven, Elizabeth, Lady
Child 4: Townshend, Anne, Lady
Child 5: Spencer, Alice, Countess
Child 6: Shaftesbury, Margaret, Countess
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"lyra" <mountai...@RockAthens.com> wrote:
> on page
>
> http://roundtable.iwarp.com/photo6.html
>
> there is a picture of
> Elizabeth nee Vernon,
> married to Southampton,
> that reminded me a lot
> of the recently-discovered
> "Southampton" portrait...
> maybe the portrait was of her,
> not the Earl?
> tho', their hair is remarkably similar...
> like seeing a gender switch!
> "Orlando" (by Virginia Woolf), etc.!
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Excellent, mountain queen lyra!!
Southampton's ALDER ego.
(Gaullish VERN => "place of ALDERS)
Compare with a young lipsticked Southampton:
http://www.observer.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4398248,00.html
http://roundtable.iwarp.com/photo6.html
long fingers <=> long fingers
right hand right hand
pointing up <=> pointing down
Bible <=> Prayer book?
black attire <=> white attire
black cat on table <=> white rabbit on ground
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suddenly a White Rabbit with pink eyes ran close by her.
There was nothing so very remarkable in that; nor did
Alice think it so very much out of the way to hear the
Rabbit say to itself, 'Oh dear! Oh dear! I shall be late!'
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CHAPTER 1
Looking-Glass house
One thing was certain, that the WHITE kitten had had
nothing to do with it:--it was the black kitten's fault entirely.
. . . . .
`And as for YOU,' she went on, turning fiercely upon the Red Queen, whom she
considered as the cause of all the mischief--but the Queen was no longer at
her side--she had suddenly dwindled down to the size of a little doll, and
was now on the table, merrily running round and round after her own shawl,
which was trailing behind her.
At any other time, Alice would have felt surprised at this, but she was far
too much excited to be surprised at anything NOW.
`As for YOU,' she repeated, catching hold of the little creature in the very
act of jumping over a bottle which had just lighted upon the table, `I'll
shake you into a kitten, that I will!'
CHAPTER X
Shaking
She took her off the table as she spoke, and shook her backwards and
forwards with all her might.
The Red Queen made no resistance whatever; only her face grew very small,
and her eyes got large and green: and still, as
Alice went on shaking her, she kept on growing shorter--and fatter--and
softer--and rounder--and--
CHAPTER XI
Waking
--and it really WAS a kitten, after all.
CHAPTER XII
Which Dreamed it?
`Your majesty shouldn't purr so loud,' Alice said, rubbing her eyes, and
addressing the kitten, respectfully, yet with some severity. `You woke me
out of oh! such a nice dream! And you've been along with me, Kitty-
-all through the Looking-Glass world.
Did you know it, dear?'
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > http://www.gunpowder-plot.org/d7001/g0000138.htm
> >
> > Sir Edward STANLEY of TONGe Castle, Shropshire.
> >
> > Father: Thomas STANLEY Mother: Margaret VERNON
> >
> > 1534 Margaret VERNON, the last Prioress
> > for the Nunnery at Little MARLOW
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > OL. *TONGere* (to know)
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
Mountain Queen "lyra" <mountai...@RockAthens.com> wrote:
> Maybe they are part of the same Vernon family
> as Southampton's wife?
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Henry Wriothesley was grandson of Thomas (1505-1550)
1st Baron Wriothesley of Titchfield & Earl of Southampton
Ambassador to HUNGARY and chief secretary to Henry VIII
MARY BROWNE --- Henry Wriothesley
| (Southampton)
|
Henry Wriothesley ----- Elizabeth VERNon
(1573-1624) | {Gaullish VERN => "place of ALDERS}
|
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Lady Penelope ---- William Spencer
(1598-1667) | 2nd Baron Spencer
| (1591-1636)
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John 1st Baron CRAVEN --- ELIZAbeth --- Henry Howard
d.1650 d.1650
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http://www.hants.gov.uk/newforesthistory/beaulieu.htm
A Brief History of Beaulieu by Jeremy Greenwood
<<At the Dissolution, the abbey was partially demolished to provide
building materials for nearby Hurst castle. Henry VIII granted Beaulieu
(and much other property) in 1538 to Thomas Wriothesley, 1st Earl of
Southampton. For his diplomatic efforts, he was created (1544) (Baron
Wriothesley and made Lord Chancellor - an office in which he became
notorious for his severity. Protector Somerset gave Wriothesley the
earldom of Southampton. The Hampshire estates were centred on
Titchfield, another former abbey, which was the family's main house.
He was succeeded by his son Henry, who became the 2nd Earl in 1550 and
who remained a Catholic throughout his life and was, in consequence,
imprisoned in the Tower for a spell. His otherwise uneventful life was
marred by excessive expenditure so that many of the bequests in his will
could not be carried out. Even so, his will of 1581 ordered 'two faire
monuments' to be set up in Titchfield church to consist of 'portraitures
of white alabaster, one for my lorde my father and my ladye my mother,
the other for mee'. Although only made for about 15% of the
sum bequeathed for the purpose, it remains a magnificent tomb
sculpted in 1594 by GERARD JOHNSON, a Flemish refugee.
The 2nd, 3rd & 4th Earls were also later interred in the vault .
Henry Wriothesley, 3rd earl of Southampton, (1573-1624) was the second
son of Henry, 2nd Earl of Southampton and his wife Mary Browne (daughter
of the 1st Viscount Montague) and succeeded to his title in 1581 before
he had attained his eighth birthday, and consequently became, and
remained until his majority, a ward of the Crown under Lord Burghley.
Towards the end of 1585 he became a student at St. John's College,
Cambridge, from whence he graduated as M.A. in 1589. Early in this year,
or possibly while Southampton was still at Cambridge, Burghley had
opened negotiations with the Countess of Southampton with the object
of uniting the interests and fortunes of her son with his own house,
by a marriage with his own granddaughter, Lady
ELIZABETH VERE, daughter of the Earl of Oxford.
In 1598 he was in disgrace as he had married his pregnant mistress,
ELIZABETH VER-non, one of the Queen's ladies in waiting, without
the Queen's permission. He further attracted royal opprobrium during the
Irish campaign. A friend of Robert DEVEREAUX, 2nd Earl of Essex,
Southampton accompanied Essex to Ireland in 1599 as general
of the HORSE, but Elizabeth revoked his appointment.
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Father John Of Hodnet VERNON (1546-1592)
Mother Elizabeth DEVEREUX (~1541-1583)
John VERNON ----- Elizabeth DEVEREAUX.
(1546-1592) | (~1541-1583)
|
Elizabeth VERNON----- Henry Wriothesley
Birth: *November 8* 1598, Tichfield
Death: 16 Jul 1667, Brighton?
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Elizabeth VERNON whose father, Sir John Vernon was dead: a cousin of Essex.
It had been observed at Court in 1585 that 'my Lord Southampton doth with
too much familiarity court the Fair Mistress Verrnon.' Now in January 1598
he was at last embarking on his Continental tour, setting out with Cecil to
see if Henri IV could be prevented from making peace with Spain. Sir Robert
Sidney's agent reports to him: ' I hear my Lord Southampton goes with Mr.
Secretary to France and so onwards on his travels, which course of his doth
exceedingly grieve his mistress, that passes her time in weeping and
lamenting.' Elizabeth I: 'Mr Secretary hath procured him licence to travel.
His fair mistress doth wash her fairest face with tooo many tears. I pray
God his going away bring her to no such infirmity, which is, as it were,
hereditary to her name:'
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http://www.derbyshireguide.co.uk/travel/haddon.htm
<<Since the 12th century, only two families have held [Haddon House].
The Vernon's held the house first. Sir George Vernon is probably the
most well known. He was referred to as the 'King of the Peak' due to his
lavish hospitality at Haddon Hall. In 1558, his daughter, Dorothy Vernon
eloped with Sir John Manners. Sir George did not approve of his
daughter's marriage and it is thought that he did not extend his famous
hospitality for the wedding celebrations. When Sir George died in 1567,
the estate (which included Haddon Hall) passed to Dorothy and her
husband. From then onwards, the Manners have held the Hall. The current
owners, the Dukes of Rutland are descended from the Manners.>>
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from Rowse's _William Shakespeare_
<<Early in February, 'it is secretly said that my Lord of Southampton shall
be married to his fair mistress; he asked for a little respite.' He got
leave to go abroad instead. 'My Lord of Southampton hath gone and hath left
behind him a very desolate gentlewoman, that hath almost wept out her
fairest eyes. He was at Essex Haouse with 1000 [code # for Essex] and there
had much private talk in the cort below.'
With Southampton in France: 'Mistress Vernon is from Court, and lies at
Essex House; some say she hath taken a venue under the girdle and swells
upon it, yet she complains not of foul play but say the Earl of Southampton
will justify it. And it is bruited underhand that he was lately here four
days in great secret, of purpose to marry her and effected it accordingly.'
In November, 'the new Countess of Southampton is brought abed of a daughter,
and to mend her portion, the Earl her father hath lately lost 1800 crowns at
tennis in Paris.' (Had Southampton been over in England the preceding
March?)>>
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luci aVERNI
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<<Whenever a town was founded a round hole would first be dug. In the
bottom of it a stone, LAPIS manalis, which represented a gate to the
Underworld, would then be embedded. On the August 23rd, October 5th
and the 8th of November
this stone would be removed to permit the Manes
to pass through. The object of the cult rendered to them was
to appease their anger. Originally they were offered blood sacrifices,
and it is probable that the first gladiatorial combats were instituted
in their honour. Like the Greeks the Latins placed the Infernal Regions
in the centre of the earth. It could be reached by various openings -
caves, lakes , marshes. One of the most celebrated of these was Lake
Avernus in Campania, a grim and deserted spot in the neighbourhood of
Pozzuoli. The hills which surrounded it were formerly covered with woods
sacred to Hecate (luci aVERNI) and pitted with cavities through which,
according to Cicero, one called forth the souls of the dead.
Near aVERNUS the cave called the Cave of the Cumaean Sibyl
can still be seen.>> -- Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology
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Lady Penelope Wriothesley
(born Lapis Manalis: November 8, 1598
died July 16, 1667)
Married 1614 to Spencer, William, Baron Spencer 2nd
Henry's daughter Lady Penelope Wriothesley (1598-1667)
(Penelope = weaver wife of WITTY Ulysses)
and son Thomas (1607-1667) 4th Earl of Southampton
both lived long enough to oversee all the Folio's & Sonnets.
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November 8, 1519, Córtez marches on the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlin.
November 8, 1598, Lady Penelope Wriothesley born
November 8, 1602, Bodleian Library at Oxford opened to the public.
November 8, 1623, 16 of Shakespeare's plays registered
in the First Folio by Blount and Jaggard:
"The Twelfth Night."
"Two Gentlemen of Verona."
"I Henry VI."
"Comedy of Errors."
"Julius Caesar."
"All's Well That Ends Well."
"Measure For Measure."
"Macbeth."
"Anthony and Cleaopatra."
"Coriolanus."
"Timon of Athens."
"Cymbeline."
"The Winter's Tale."
"The Tempest."
"Henry VIII."
"As You Like It."
November 8, 1656, Edmund Halley born.
November 8, 1674, John Milton died.
He's buried near his father St. Giles Cripplegate.
November 8, 1740, Samuel Richardson's _Pamela_, first English novel.
November 8, 1793, Louvre Museum in Paris opened to the public.
November 8, 1805, Lewis & Clark reach mouth of the Columbia River.
November 8, 1837, Mount Holyoke Seminary in Massachusetts was founded,
the first American college for women.
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<< From letters his wife wrote while Southampton was in Ireland: She was
relieved that he was not troubled for my not being as, I protest unto you, I
infinitely desire to have been. . .and though I be not now in that happy
state yet I doubt not that in good time and, for the infinite comfort of you
and myself, God will bless me with bearing you as many boys as your own
heart desires to have.' In every letter she prayed for his return and that
'most soon I may enjoy the sight of you and ever your most faithfull love,
which will make me know myself to be the happiest woman of the world.'
However, upon his return to London, Southampton's wife & Essex's sister:
Lady Rich - Sidney's Stella- left for the country 'to shun the company that
daily were wont to visit them, because it gave offence at Court.'
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http://www.hants.gov.uk/newforesthistory/beaulieu.htm
<< [Henry Wriothesley] was closely involved in DEVEREAUX's
Essex's rebellion (1601) and was sentenced to death,
but this sentence was changed to life imprisonment.>>
Upon the accession (1603) of James I,
Southampton was released and restored to favour and the Beaulieu
estates were regranted to him. However he fell out with the king's
favourite, the Duke of Buckingham, in 1619 and left the court.
[Henry Wriothesley] conceived the idea of reclaiming the salt marshes
between Titchfield & the sea. A *SEA WALL*
across the mouth of the Meon was completed in 1611,
and since that time Titchfield Haven has been fresh or brackish,
although the sea has occasionally broken back in during storms.
The reclamation spelt the doom of Titchfield as a port, even though
a canal was built, and the town sank into a centuries-long decline.>>
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<<The unrealiable William Reynolds wrote that Southampton
lived in a tent in Ireland with PIERS Edmondes, a brother officer,
and the earle Sowthamton would cole and huge [embrace & hug]
him in his arms and play wantonly with him. Reynolds expected to be
believed, but even if we dismiss that report, there are signs enough
that the young earl preferred bisexual or homosexual friends.>>
- p. 177, _Shakespeare_ by Honan.
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3d earl of Southampton, Henry Wriothesley, [ROT'slE]
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0846028.html
<<Southampton, Henry Wriothesley, 3d earl of , 1573-1624, English
nobleman and patron of letters. He succeeded to his title in 1581, was
educated at Cambridge, and gained favor at the court of Queen Elizabeth
I. A generous patron of such writers as Barnabe Barnes, Thomas Nash, and
John Florio, he is best known as the patron of William Shakespeare, who
dedicated Venus and Adonis (1593) and The Rape of Lucrece (1594) to him.
Some scholars have maintained that Southampton is the patron and friend
described in Shakespeare's sonnets. A friend of Robert Devereux, 2d earl
of Essex, Southampton accompanied him on military and naval expeditions
in 1596 and 1597. His secret marriage (1598) to Elizabeth Vernon, one of
Elizabeth's ladies in waiting, angered the queen greatly, and she never
forgave him. Southampton accompanied Essex to Ireland in 1599 as general
of the HORSE, but Elizabeth revoked his appointment. He was closely
involved in Essex's rebellion (1601) and was sentenced to death, but
this sentence was changed to life imprisonment. Upon the accession
(1603) of James I, Southampton was released and restored to favor. He
became interested in colonial explorations and was a member of the
Virginia Company and of the British East India Company. Although his
impetuosity involved him in a number of court brawls, Southampton became
(1619) a privy councilor. He lost favor, however, because of his
opposition to the 1st duke of Buckingham. In 1624 he volunteered, with
his son James, to lead a troop of English volunteers to fight for the
Netherlands against Spain. Shortly after arriving in the Netherlands,
both Southampton and his son died of fever.>>
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Art Neuendorffer