Why We Need A New, MODERATED h.l.a. Group: h.l.a.OXFORD
spearshaker
real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
other words, gorilla doo-doo.
H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
"Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
termed civilized discourse.
I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
[moderated] news group.I propose the name:
"humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians, and to
Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.
I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
2.He appears to have the interest.
One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
would clear things up!
A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same worn-out argument
over and over again should also be barred unless they come up with
something new.
Stephanie Caruana
Author, The Gemstone File: A Memoir
http://gemstone-file-memoir.com
P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,on "Adam
Gorightly's" webradio show: www.blogtalkradio.com. Tune in if you are
interested.
Mark Houlsby
Why single out the Strats, Anise? All of the factions are equally bad,
from my vantage point.
The problem is that the authorship debate dominates the group, as a
result of which HLAS has been, for a long time, one gigantic flame
war. It's really stupid.
I have written in favour of HLAS' being moderated. How that would work
I'm not exactly sure.
Regards,
Mark
lackpurity
> Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
> "Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
> termed civilized discourse.
MM:
That is not all they find. They find the truth, here, courtesy of
yours truly. William Shakespeare wrote the canon. There are "tares,"
growing with the "wheat," no doubt, but you're not giving an accurate
assessment of HLAS, IMO. From my POV, since I've been interjecting
the truth, the group has really improved. At least, it was improving,
until Hound Dog came here trolling his Atheism.
It is true that many lurkers drop by occasionally, to view the
messages. This would have to be, since Shakespeare is second only to
the Bible in popularity
> I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
> [moderated] news group.I propose the name:
> "humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
MM:
If Oxfordians are repelled by the truth, then so be it. Baconians
could form HLAS.Bacon. Derbyites could form HLAS.Stanley. HLAS would
feel the loss of members and the decline in postings, but from a
Stratfordian POV, that would be balanced by higher quality postings,
perhaps? IOW, if you subtract all the weird Anti-Strat fantasies,
then you would have a better group.
> Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
> beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
> and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
>
> I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians, and to
> Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.
MM:
Doesn't seem to encouraging, does it? If there is no harmoney here,
why would there be there, unless the moderator throws out the thugs,
like Marshal Matt Dillon.
> I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
> 1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
> 2.He appears to have the interest.
MM:
You can have him, gladly. I'm tired of reading his "illiterate
Stratford Boob pigeonholings of William Shakespeare, the Poet of the
Age. I won't miss a lot of his other clutter, either.
> One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
> fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
> would clear things up!
>
> A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same worn-out argument
> over and over again should also be barred unless they come up with
> something new.
>
> Stephanie Caruana
> Author, The Gemstone File: A Memoirhttp://gemstone-file-memoir.com
>
> P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,on "Adam
> Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com. Tune in if you are
> interested.
MM:
I wouldn't want to be a part of that group, anyway.
Michael Martin
lackpurity
>
> P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,on "Adam
> Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com. Tune in if you are
> interested.
MM:
Stephanie, I don't know if this flamer is Oxfordian, or not, but maybe
you could invite him to your group. He wrote this recently, from the
thread, "Malfunction, All Shakespeare Theories Are Wrong."
> > > > > > MM, Ignoto,Spinoza1111are in the front line to be washed down the
> > > > > > drain as hopeless troll cases. We need a flusher like you, Mark, but
> > > > > > unfortunately, the troll constipation is too hard to be washed down
> > > > > > easily, no matter how many Niagaras you mobilize.
MM:
I won't miss him. You can have him and all others of his ilk. He is
John Bede.
Michael Martin
Mark Houlsby
> On Mar 6, 9:15?am, "spearshaker" <stephaniecaru...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ? ? Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> > real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> > years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> > Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> > gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> > other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> > H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> > frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
Stop making inflammatory posts, Michael. It's trolling. You're a
troll.
<snips MM's inflammatory trolling>
> MM:
> I won't miss him. You can have him and all others of his ilk. He is
> John Bede.
>
> Michael Martin
John is one of the most lucid members of the group, unlike you,
Michael. Stop trolling.
Mark Houlsby
Art Neuendorffer
>
> Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
> "Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
> termed civilized discourse.
>
> I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
> [moderated] news group.I propose the name:
> "humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
>
> Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
> beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
> and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
>
> I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians, and to
> Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.
Such a moderated Oxfordian discussion group exists now:
http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0
.
Polite (& non VERbosE) Oxfordians & non-Oxfordians are welcome.
.
spearshaker wrote:
>
> I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
> 1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
> 2.He appears to have the interest.
Art Neuendorffer also does believe in moderated groups, per se.
For all it's problems, HLAS is the best of all possible groups.
.
spearshaker wrote:
>
> One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
> fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
> would clear things up!
That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
.
spearshaker wrote:
>
> A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same
> worn-out argument over and over again should also be barred
> unless they come up with something new.
That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
.
spearshaker wrote:
>
> P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
> on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show: www.blogtalkradio.com.
> Tune in if you are interested.
Adam Gorightly? (He's not going to sing Moon River is he?)
Art Neuendorffer
lackpurity
wrote:
MM:
Have you thought about going back to playing chess? Then, there are
the options of alt.atheism, or alt.flame. Your comments that
religions are deranged is one of the most sweeping flames I've ever
seen. You just flamed 5/6ths of the world's popularion. That's FIVE
BILLION people, at least.
You should listen to Spinoza and Ignoto. They've been giving you good
advice.
Michael Martin
Art Neuendorffer
>
<<Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
other words, gorilla doo-doo.
H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
"Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
termed civilized discourse.
I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
[moderated] news group.I propose the name:
"humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians,
and to Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.>>
------------------------------------------
Such a moderated Oxfordian discussion group exists now:
http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0
.
Polite (& non VERbosE) Oxfordians & non-Oxfordians are welcome.
------------------------------------------
spearshaker wrote:
>
<<I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
2.He appears to have the interest.>>
------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer also does NOT believe in moderated groups, per se.
For all it's problems, HLAS is the best of all possible groups.
------------------------------------------
spearshaker wrote:
>
<<One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
would clear things up!>>
------------------------------------------
That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
------------------------------------------
spearshaker wrote:
>
<<A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same
worn-out argument over and over again should also
be barred unless they come up with something new.>>
------------------------------------------
That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
------------------------------------------
spearshaker wrote:
>
<<P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show: www.blogtalkradio.com.
Tune in if you are interested.>>
------------------------------------------
Mark Houlsby
> On Mar 6, 10:49?am, "Mark Houlsby" <mark.houl...@eudoramail.com>
> > > thread, "Malfunction, All Shakespeare Theories Are Wrong."
>
> > Stop making inflammatory posts, Michael. It's trolling. You're a
> > troll.
>
> > <snips MM's inflammatory trolling>
>
> > > MM:
> > > John Bede.
>
> > > Michael Martin
>
> > John is one of the most lucid members of the group, unlike you,
> > Michael. Stop trolling.
>
> > Mark Houlsby
>
> MM:
> Have you thought about going back to playing chess?
I do play chess, dude.
> Then, there are
> the options of alt.atheism, or alt.flame.
What has this group got to do with your Sant Mat garbage? You're
deflecting. Stop deflecting, troll.
> Your comments that
> religions are deranged
I wrote NO SUCH THING, illiterate deranged troll.
> is one of the most sweeping flames I've ever
> seen.
We've been over this already. Very few people read our conversations.
This is you and me, one on one, your ego against mine, remember? You
just lost. Admit it, and leave the group, deranged troll.
> You just flamed 5/6ths of the world's popularion. That's FIVE
> BILLION people, at least.
>
No, I haven't. How many more times do I have to explain this to you,
idiot?
MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD, LET ALONE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
Once again: this is you and me, one on one. Your ego against mine.
You lost, because BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION: posting inflammatory messages
is TROLLING.
You post INFLAMMATORY MESSAGES in a group which has NOTHING WHATEVER
to do with spirituality therefore--ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DEFINITION,
YOU ARE A TROLL.
It's time to leave, Michael. You're not welcome here.
> You should listen to Spinoza and Ignoto. They've been giving you good
> advice.
>
No, they haven't. Spinoza is as deranged as you are, and Ignoto is an
idiot. It's time to leave the group TROLL.
Mark Houlsby
> Michael Martin
lackpurity
MM:
NO SUCH THING? Cast your eyes on this:
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Date: 5 Mar 2007 11:05:16 -0800
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On 5 Mar, 18:09, "lackpurity" <lackpur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
> > > You were trolling atheism and non-belief in
> > > Satan, earlier today.
> > In response to your trolling. All religious belief is just deranged
> > fantasy. You've repeated it many times, and nobody gives a shit about
> > either it or you. It has *nothing* to do with the canon.
> MM:
> Why don't you explain exactly what you mean by that charge?
I should have thought it might be obvious to anyone who was not
insane. All religious belief is deranged fantasy. It has no basis in
reality. The canon, in stark contrast, *does* have a basis in
reality.
End of Quote
> > is one of the most sweeping flames I've ever
> > seen.
>
> We've been over this already. Very few people read our conversations.
> This is you and me, one on one, your ego against mine, remember? You
> just lost. Admit it, and leave the group, deranged troll.
MM:
I lost? You wrote that you didn't post it. I've clearly pointed out
the truth. I'll let the readers decide.
> > You just flamed 5/6ths of the world's population. That's FIVE
> > BILLION people, at least.
>
> No, I haven't. How many more times do I have to explain this to you,
> idiot?
>
> MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD, LET ALONE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
> Once again: this is you and me, one on one. Your ego against mine.
MM:
Repercussions might start with the internet, then go by word of mouth,
or by pony express. Get a grip. You've got a lot to learn, young
fellow. Flip-flopping won't cut it, either, just in case you're
thinking about doing that, again.
<snipped hypocritical rhetoric>
Michael Martin
> > Michael Martin-
John Bede
wrote:
> spearshaker wrote:
>
> >
> <<Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
> "Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
> termed civilized discourse.
>
> I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
> [moderated] news group.I propose the name:
> "humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
>
> Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
> beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
> and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
>
> I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians,
> and to Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> Such a moderated Oxfordian discussion group exists now:http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0
> .
> Polite (& non VERbosE) Oxfordians & non-Oxfordians are welcome.
>
> >
> <<I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
> 1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
> 2.He appears to have the interest.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer also does NOT believe in moderated groups, per se.
> For all it's problems, HLAS is the best of all possible groups.
>
> >
> <<One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
> fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
> would clear things up!>>
> ------------------------------------------
> That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
> is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
>
> >
> <<A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same
> worn-out argument over and over again should also
> be barred unless they come up with something new.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
> is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
I agree with Art here. During 12 years' hysterical crusading we have
managed to collect a considerable audience all round the world,
laughing their sides off at the lunatics' gallery and their
increasingly exaggerated pranks here, and we wouldn't like to lose
that entertainment - neither would the world. The clowning
tomfooleries here at least occasionally let through some interesting
debating stuff, which adds to the general interest. Starting another
hlas would only split up the audience, which would completely lose all
interest in a more boring exclusive forum - and the participants in
continuing to argue. As I think Laila Roth pointed out, without an
audience there is no show and nothing to maintain the interest in it.
The audience makes the show, and we have an audience. So let the show
go on, and don't change anything.
So my advice is to in spite of all let Lackpurity, Ignoto and Spinoza
go on blotching the stage.
JB
> >
> <<P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
> on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com.
> Tune in if you are interested.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> Adam Gorightly? (He's not going to sing Moon River is he?)
>
Madame Gowrongly would have been nicer.
> Art Neuendorffer
John Bede
lackpurity
MM:
I notice you use the word "lunatics," rather loosely here. I suppose
you purposely left it ambiguous. I think most of the world is
Stratfordian, which is a step in the right direction. Some might take
Shakespeare more seriously, than just a form of entertainment. Since,
you appear to be Anti-Stratfordian, your implication that you can
speak for what the world wants to keep, is absurd and ridiculous.
> The clowning
> tomfooleries here at least occasionally let through some interesting
> debating stuff, which adds to the general interest. Starting another
> hlas would only split up the audience, which would completely lose all
> interest in a more boring exclusive forum - and the participants in
> continuing to argue. As I think Laila Roth pointed out, without an
> audience there is no show and nothing to maintain the interest in it.
> The audience makes the show, and we have an audience. So let the show
> go on, and don't change anything.
MM:
I suppose you think HLAS is nothing but a "show." Well, Shakespeare
did try to reach people through comedies, but that is certainly not
typical of the whole canon. He tried to reach others through
tragedies, indicating, that some were more receptive to a serious
vein.
> So my advice is to in spite of all let Lackpurity, Ignoto and Spinoza
> go on blotching the stage.
>
> JB
MM:
Frankly, no HLAS would be better than an HLAS which distorts the
truth, IMO. As it is, now, we have truth and falsehoods, both.
Readers can use their best discernent to separate the tares from the
wheat.
I notice you mention Ignoto, Spinoza, and me, but don't write a peep
about Neuendorffer, Crowley, or Elizabeth. Readers can decide who's
blotching the stage. They sure can.
Michael Martin
lyra
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> >
> <<I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator. For 2 main reasons:
> 1. He appears to have the time, and is efficient!
> 2.He appears to have the interest.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer also does NOT believe in moderated groups, per se.
> For all it's problems, HLAS is the best of all possible groups.
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> >
> <<One suggestion to Art: All posters suggesting that other posters go
> fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
> would clear things up!>>
> ------------------------------------------
> That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
> is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> >
> <<A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same
> worn-out argument over and over again should also
> be barred unless they come up with something new.>>
> ------------------------------------------
> That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
> is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
____________________________________________________
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> >
> <<P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
> on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com.
> Tune in if you are interested.>>
> ------------------------------------------
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>
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> blogshow using any phone, whether it be a landline, mobile, VOIP, soft
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> favorite instant messenger client and screen name, and IM them during
> their show.
>
> To reach the host by phone, dial the phone number that appears on the
> Programming Guide or on their Host Channel page. You will be
> automatically placed into a queue where you will be able to hear the
> live show. When the host takes your call, you will be live on the air
> and audible to his or her audience. However, you can and may be muted
> according to the host's discretion.
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>
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>
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"Those of you who go back a few years with A Cappella Books probably
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Oswald, Kerry wrote the first book published on Oswald after the
assassination of John F. Kennedy, and had actually been writing a
novel based on Oswald BEFORE the assassination. Because of this, he
testified before the Warren Commission, was suspected by Jim Garrison
as being involved in an assassination conspiracy and later came to
believe he was an unwitting pawn of the true conspirators. Kerry's
book on Oswald was his second; the first, co-written as a teenager,
Principia Discordia, is a cult classic and is still in print almost 40
years after it was written. Kerry went on to be an important figure in
Atlanta's counterculture, inspired Robert Anton Wilson's phenomenally
popular Illuminati series, became a Little 5 Points legend, and worked
at A Cappella Books before falling victim to a kidney ailment that led
to his death several years ago. "Somebody should write a book about
him," my wife always said during the years we knew Kerry. Now someone
has. Like its subject, the book is fascinating."
** Ronnie Dannelly **
Ear Candy magazine
"The Kerry Thornley story is an interesting twist on the 'tragic hero'
- a gifted and talented counterculture figure that eventually
succumbed to his demons.
Adam Gorightly has delivered a book that is both funny (some of
Kerry's antics were inspired hilarity) and sad (his decline in his
later years) and gives you lots of twists and turns in between.
Whether you are a Kennedy assassination buff or simply interested in
the counterculture, The Prankster and the Conspiracy is definitely a
must read."
** Paul Thomas Evans **
"Gorightly set quite a task for himself--wading through the plethora
of contradictions that the late Kerry Thornley wove around himself.
He also had the uphill battle of sifting the truth from the lies and
legends surrounding Thornley. And this book is the result! Tracking
the life of Kerry W. Thornley was quite difficult, even for Thornley.
And yet Gorightly made excellent use of letters, interviews, court
transcripts, and social history to present a well written biography of
a talented, verbose, and iconoclastic man, much overlooked by the JFK
assassination community and social historians."
http://www.adamgorightly.com/reviews-prank.html
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
spearshaker
> On Mar 6, 5:19 pm, Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
>
>
> > spearshaker wrote:
>
> > <<Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> > real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> > years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
But wouldn't it be nice to have a PUBLIC forum for POLITE discussions
of "Shakespeare" whoever you may deem him to be?
Instead of this collection of wise-ass yokels?
I don't think h.l.a.s. is amusing at all!
If Art won't do it, won't somebody else who is sane volunteer?????
(Not me,folks, I really don't have time....)
As for reading horrible posts, isn't there some way of consigning the
confirmed unregenerate blow-torchers to a kill file--perhaps not for
life, but for a specific period of time, say six months?
The Shakespeare Fellowship is very nice, and I see that a lot of my
former friends and associates have migrated (fled) there already, but
I still think a public (free) forum where a consummate lady like
myself would not fear to tread, without fear of being molested, gang-
banged, etc., by a group of idle nerds hanging around the (figurative)
water cooler, would be nice!
> > ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> > <<P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
> > on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com.
> > Tune in if you are interested.>>
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Adam Gorightly? (He's not going to sing Moon River is he?)
No! Not Moon River!!!!!
He is going to interview me about my book.
lyra
>
> >
> <<Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
____________________________________________________________
> H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
> "Shakespeare." Instead, they find flame wars and little that could be
> termed civilized discourse.
>
> I think it's time to abandon h.l.a.s. to its fate and start another
> [moderated] news group.I propose the name:
> "humanities.lit.authors.oxford".
____________________________________________________________
to anyone thinking the same...
a note or two...
a humanities group will take quite a time to arrange. Months? I think
it would be.
an alt. group would be quicker, as a temporary arrangement. Weeks, I
think.
and may be moderated...NEED to be, in the alt.hierarchy...
a VERY quick to start Group will be ready in literally minutes at
Google Groups,
to get started straight away, and have a practice at running a group
till the other(s) are ready.
moderation, and an override to moderation for individual posters,
and a banning or removal of memberships
are some of the options.
__________________________________________________________________
> Oxford has poetry and an entire volume of letters written by him as a
> beginning "opus." We could begin by discussing these attributed works,
> and move outward to see how they relate to "Shake-speare".
>
> I believe this group should be open to all non-Stratfordians,
> and to Stratfordians who can be civil in their posts.>>
_________________________________________________________________
> Such a moderated Oxfordian discussion group exists now:http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0
> .
> Polite (& non VERbosE) Oxfordians & non-Oxfordians are welcome.
___________________________________________________________________
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> >All posters suggesting that other posters go
> fuck themselves be summarily barred forever. Think how nicely that
> would clear things up!>>
____________________________________________________________________
> ------------------------------------------spearshaker wrote:
>
> <<A second suggestion: Stratfordians posting the same
> worn-out argument over and over again should also
> be barred unless they come up with something new.>>
______________________________________________________________________
Mark Houlsby
> On Mar 6, 12:39?pm, "Mark Houlsby" <mark.houl...@eudoramail.com>
>
> > I do play chess, dude.
>
> > > Then, there are
> > > the options of alt.atheism, or alt.flame.
>
> > What has this group got to do with your Sant Mat garbage? You're
> > deflecting. Stop deflecting, troll.
>
> > > Your comments that
> > > religions are deranged
>
> > I wrote NO SUCH THING, illiterate deranged troll.
>
> MM:
> NO SUCH THING? Cast your eyes on this:
>
I WROTE WAS NOT "all religions are deranged" but that "all religious
*belief* is *deranged fantasy*" WHICH IS QUITE DIFFERENT. Religions
are fine if one doesn't inhale.
Please readers. Decide.
> > > You just flamed 5/6ths of the world's population. ?That's FIVE
> > > BILLION people, at least.
>
> > No, I haven't. How many more times do I have to explain this to you,
> > idiot?
>
> > MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD, LET ALONE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
> > Once again: this is you and me, one on one. Your ego against mine.
>
> MM:
> Repercussions might start with the internet, then go by word of mouth,
> or by pony express. Get a grip. You've got a lot to learn, young
> fellow. Flip-flopping won't cut it, either, just in case you're
> thinking about doing that, again.
>
You cannot read. It's *not* a spiritual group, it's a Shakespeare
group, and that's *precisely* why I advocate its being moderated, to
eliminate loonies like you.
Stop trolling. Stop trolling. Stop trolling.
Sant Mat has NOTHING to do with SHAKESPEARE. Just leave.
Now.
Your posts are inflammatory. The post to which this is a reply is
inflammatory. You're a troll. You're a troll. You're a troll.
Just leave.
Now.
Mark Houlsby
> <snipped hypocritical rhetoric>
>
> Michael Martin
>
>
>
> > > Michael Martin-- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Art Neuendorffer
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
> But wouldn't it be nice to have a PUBLIC forum for POLITE
> discussions of "Shakespeare" whoever you may deem him to be?
Many Strats (especially HLAS's own major domo :
Greg Reynolds) consider ALL anti-Stat talk(by it's very nature)
to be a defamation of Shakespeare. Strats, by and large,
would not participate in a forum controlled by anti-Stats.
.
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
>Instead of this collection of wise-ass yokels?
Who else would support a yokel as author of the canon?
.
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
>I don't think h.l.a.s. is amusing at all!
I'm cut to the quick!
I bend over backwards to be amusing.
.
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
>If Art won't do it, won't somebody else who is sane volunteer?????
Anyone sane left HLAS years ago.
-------------------------------------------------------
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat:
. "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
-------------------------------------------------------
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
>(Not me,folks, I really don't have time....)
>As for reading horrible posts, isn't there some way of consigning
>the confirmed unregenerate blow-torchers to a kill file--perhaps
>not for life, but for a specific period of time, say six months?
All systems allow anyone to killfile anyone else at their discretion ;
however,
many posters can avoid this by constantly changing their posting
identity.
.
Stephanie C. wrote:
>
>The Shakespeare Fellowship is very nice, and I see that a lot of my
>former friends and associates have migrated (fled) there already,
> but I still think a public (free) forum where a consummate lady like
>myself would not fear to tread, without fear of being molested, gang-
>banged, etc., by a group of idle nerds hanging around the (figurative)
>water cooler, would be nice!
One can hardly pick up a newspaper any more
without reading about a vicious idle nerd gang-banging.
.
You might try just giving them eight fingers:
---------------------------------------------------
KRAMER: Alright, so there I am at LORENZO's - loading up my slice
of the fixin's bar.. garlic, (imitates the SHAKING of garlic
onto a pizza) and what-not..and I see this guy over at the
pizza boxes giving me the stink-eye. (Imitates the 'stink-eye')
So I give hime the crook-eye back, (Imitates the 'crook-eye')
you know.. Then, I notice that he's not alone!
I'm taking on the entire *VAN BUREN Boys* !
.
JERRY: The *VAN BUREN Boys* ?
There's a street gang named after President *Martin VAN BUREN*?
.
KRAMER: Oh yeah, and they're just as mean as he was!
So, I make a move to the door, you know, (makes a noise)
they block it! So, I lunged for the bathroom. (demonstrates)
I grab the knob - Occupado! Then they back me up against
the cartoon map of Italy, and all of the sudden, they just stop.
.
ELAINE: What? What happened?
.
KRAMER: Because I'm still holding the garlic SHAKEr.. Yeah..
like this (grabs *Jerry'S PEPER SHAKEr* , and demonstrates)
I'm only showing *EIGHT* fingers.
.
JERRY: Well, what does that mean?
.
KRAMER: That's their secret sign! See, *VAN BUREN*, he was the
*EIGHTh* President... They thought I was a former *VAN B. Boy* !
-------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
Mark Houlsby
> > > That wouldn't prevent MY having to read such posts which
> > > is my main objection to such posts in the first place.
>
> But wouldn't it be nice to have a PUBLIC forum for POLITE discussions
> of "Shakespeare" whoever you may deem him to be?
>
Dream on, Anise. It'll never happen.
> Instead of this collection of wise-ass yokels?
>
> I don't think h.l.a.s. is amusing at all!
>
Agreed.
It's a joke.
Allegedly intelligent people make complete idiots of themselves,
almost daily.
> If Art won't do it, won't somebody else who is sane volunteer?????
>
> (Not me,folks, I really don't have time....)
>
> As for reading horrible posts, isn't there some way of consigning the
> confirmed unregenerate blow-torchers to a kill file--perhaps not for
> life, but for a specific period of time, say six months?
>
On Google? Not AFAIK.
> The Shakespeare Fellowship is very nice, and I see that a lot of my
> former friends and associates have migrated (fled) there already, but
> I still think a public (free) forum where a consummate lady like
> myself would not fear to tread, without fear of being molested, gang-
> banged, etc., by a group of idle nerds hanging around the (figurative)
> water cooler, would be nice!
>
Dream on, Anise. It'll never happen.
Sorry, and all that.
<snip>
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
wrote:
> Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
Nonsense. Oxfordianism is at the same place it's been for more than
fifty years--nowhere. It may have momentarily flared a few years ago,
but so did Marlovianism (with a movie) and various Stratfordianisms
like the one pushing Shakespeare as a secret Catholic. Plus there was
the noise about the new candidate, whose name I can't remember.
> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
The only thing that changed between 2003 or so and late last year is
that a lot of superior posters like Dave Kathman and Terry Ross
dropped out, along with anti-Stratfordians like Diana Price's
husband. They dropped out because they'd had their say. In the past
few months, though, Houlsby and Spinoza came aboard. They are
responsible for the increase in bad manners, Houlsby provoking it in
others (Ignoto was never uncouth that I remember until Houlsby came
along), Spinoza by just being himself. Meanwhile, the hyper-posters
of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
I prefer freedom of speech to controlled groups, myself, and will
continue with HLAS regardless of any new group's formation--but would
probably join such a group if asked, as I shouldn't be, because I
don't believe in hypocrisy--and I consider HLAS primarily a place to
discuss and argue authorship since that's what it was clearly formed
primarily to do. Join Shaksper if you just want to talk about the
plays as plays, etc., and get the standard opinions on them from the
academics there (although some actually occasionally have interesting
things to say--and there are still unpleasant exchanges there at
times).
If I had any influence with Google, there is one thing I would
suggest, if techincally feasible: granting members of groups like HLAS
the power to start exclusive threads. It would work like this: if I
wanted to discuss my theory that Chaucer wrote the works of
Shakespeare with serious-minded persons only, I could start a thread
that no one else could contribute to who was not on a list of names
and addresses I would give to Google when I started the thread.
People not on the list could start a companion thread if they wanted
to, and they could read my thread, just not mess it up. The idea
would be a sort of individually-moderated group-within-a-group.
As for Art as moderator, good grief. I'm sure he has declined the
honor, but I haven't read his response yet.
--Bob G.
Mark Houlsby
Bob,
You're wrong. I did NOT provoke Ignoto. HE trolled ME ****first****.
If you can't get your facts straight, don't mention my name, OK?
--Mark H.
Mark Houlsby
> On Mar 6, 1:16?pm, "John Bede" <fileasph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6 Mar, 18:19, Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > spearshaker wrote:
>
> > > <<Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> > > real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
> > > years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> > > Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
> > > gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> > > other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> > > H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup. The general public drops in at
> > > frequent intervals, hoping to find something of interest about
Right, and your deranged spiritual hogwash DISTORTS THE TRUTH. Stop
doing it.
> As it is, now, we have truth and falsehoods, both.
No, it's pretty much all falsehoods. Especially your posts.
> Readers can use their best discernent to separate the tares from the
> wheat.
>
Or the chaff even. Nobody here considers what you write to be wheat
(at least, nobody sane).
> I notice you mention Ignoto, Spinoza, and me, but don't write a peep
> about Neuendorffer, Crowley, or Elizabeth.
That's because Neuendorffer, Crowley and Weir are not throwing
kerosene onto the flames here. YOU ARE. TROLL.
> Readers can decide who's
> blotching the stage. They sure can.
>
Yes, they sure can, and it's YOU. TROLL.
LEAVE THE GROUP.
Mark Houlsby
> Michael Martin
>
Greg Reynolds
Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> -------------------------------
> Stephanie C. wrote:
> >
> > But wouldn't it be nice to have a PUBLIC forum for POLITE
> > discussions of "Shakespeare" whoever you may deem him to be?
> .
> Many Strats (especially HLAS's own major domo :
> Greg Reynolds) consider ALL anti-Stat talk(by it's very nature)
> to be a defamation of Shakespeare. Strats, by and large,
> would not participate in a forum controlled by anti-Stats.
Thanks for telling me what I think because I really, really wanted to
know.
(What is a domo?) I am not a Strat and no one in my personal life
knows what one is. (Strat's is a hamburger shop in our town.)
Yes, Oxfordians dismiss a 30 year span of history and supplant it with
a weak disjointed medley of slapdash speculations that merely counter
facts. The speculations do not form a reliable premise and truly
conflict. Oxford would laugh his ass of at you thinking he was capable
of writing this work.
Oxfordianism has no basic premise and no facts, just a silly
dismantling of the established course of events. There would be no
reason to mention Shakespeare if Oxford wrote the canon and there is
no reason to mention Oxford if Shakespeare wrote it. But Shakespeare
is on every page of an Oxfordian book, whereas Oxford may get one,
two, or no mentions in a book on Shakespeare.
The two major Oxfordian complaints regarding Shakespeare are no
recorded education and no recorded travel abroad. But this is the same
situation as with Queen Elizabeth! Therefore, using Oxfordian sense,
Elizabeth could not be queen SO Oxford served as queen and everyone
understood the conspiracy. That is how rational you people are.
I hope when Oxfordians die, a bunch of quasi-pseudo-smartie-pantses
discredit them and deny their accomplishments because that would be
fair treatment.
The Oxfordian Frequently Unanswered Questions has grown to about two
dozen queries whereas my list of facts supporting Oxford has leveled
at 4 or 5 (with Volker supplying that provisional fifth fact).
Greg Reynolds
Willedever
> I propose Art Neuendorffer as the moderator.
Humor is where one finds it.
Mark Houlsby
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> > -------------------------------
> > Stephanie C. wrote:
>
> > > But wouldn't it be nice to have a PUBLIC forum for POLITE
> > > discussions of "Shakespeare" whoever you may deem him to be?
> > .
> > Many Strats (especially HLAS's own major domo :
> > Greg Reynolds) consider ALL anti-Stat talk(by it's very nature)
> > to be a defamation of Shakespeare. Strats, by and large,
> > would not participate in a forum controlled by anti-Stats.
>
> Thanks for telling me what I think because I really, really wanted to
> know.
> (What is a domo?) I am not a Strat and no one in my personal life
> knows what one is. (Strat's is a hamburger shop in our town.)
>
It's also a Fender Stratocaster guitar. Art often tells *me* what I
think, too. So does spinoza1111.
<snip>
Mark Houlsby
>
> Greg Reynolds
Willedever
>
> H.L.A.S. is a very "popular" newsgroup.
Not actually. HLAS is a niche group, and Shakespeare is a niche
subject. I check web forums every day, that have more than 20,000
registered members, and more than a million posts, and where more than
two thousand members will be online at the same time. HLAS doesn't
begin to compare with truly active discussion boards, with popular
subjects.
Besides which, newsgroups are obsolete. Technology has moved on.
Php, MySQL, javascript, etc. etc. etc.
But if you want a moderated discussion group, start one, and moderate
it yourself, using Google Groups. Or, download some free forum
software, such as Simple Machines, or phpBB, pay a few bucks a year
for server space, and run your own forum as you please (and it appears
you already have a domain.) Then, post the occasional link here, with
a brief description of what you're doing at any given time, on your
board, and see if anybody's interested.
Elizabeth wants something different. Lynne wants something
different. Gary wants something different. You want something
different. Etc, etc, etc. So stop whining, and do it, ya dummies.
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
I said Ignoto was never uncouth until you came along, with the
implication that you provoked him into what I'd call over-reacting.
You can provoke someone you don't even know, you know. I'm not as
against you as a lot of others are, but I do think your game tired and
silly--and ridiculously self-righteous and authoritarian.
--Bob G.
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
What world is looking on, John? How come not one of them has ever
chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
--Bob
Tom Reedy
news:1173219222.8...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 6, 10:15 am, "spearshaker" <stephaniecaru...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
>> real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass a few
>> years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
>
> Nonsense. Oxfordianism is at the same place it's been for more than
> fifty years--nowhere. It may have momentarily flared a few years ago,
> but so did Marlovianism (with a movie) and various Stratfordianisms
> like the one pushing Shakespeare as a secret Catholic. Plus there was
> the noise about the new candidate, whose name I can't remember.
*Everything* flared up a few years ago with the popularization of the
Internet. As a result, a lot of people connected who were for the most part
isolated, or who communicated through the mail. I remember when it took
months to get document copies from England; now a click of the mouse will
have it to you in a couple of weeks through the mail or almost instantly
though the Internet.
The Internet cuts both ways: it is responsible for a flowering of
scholarship, but it is also blamed for the rise in the numbers of child
predators and identity theft.
>> Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated into
>> gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
>> tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
>> other words, gorilla doo-doo.
>
> The only thing that changed between 2003 or so and late last year is
> that a lot of superior posters like Dave Kathman and Terry Ross
> dropped out, along with anti-Stratfordians like Diana Price's
> husband. They dropped out because they'd had their say. In the past
> few months, though, Houlsby and Spinoza came aboard. They are
> responsible for the increase in bad manners, Houlsby provoking it in
> others (Ignoto was never uncouth that I remember until Houlsby came
> along), Spinoza by just being himself. Meanwhile, the hyper-posters
> of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
A good summary of the situation.
TR
Art Neuendorffer
>
> What world is looking on, John? How come not one of them has ever
> chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
>
Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
>
> > Ever since interest and support for the 17th Earl of Oxford as the
> > real author of the "Shake-speare" plays reached critical mass
> > a few years ago, a strange phenomenon has developed on h.l.a.s.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> Nonsense. Oxfordianism is at the same place
> it's been for more than fifty years--nowhere.
There ARE more pressing concerns in the world, after all.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> It may have momentarily flared a few years ago, but
> so did Marlovianism (with a movie) and various Stratfordianisms
> like the one pushing Shakespeare as a secret Catholic.
And all for the same reason: their very own PBS special.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> Plus there was the noise about the new candidate,
> whose name I can't remember.
Sir Henry Neville...the Pillsbury dough boy of authorship.
>
> > Infighting has became much worse. Many exchanges have degenerated
> > into gorilla- (not guerilla) type assaults, and the opposing flame warriors
> > tend to use as their chief "ammunition" stale piles of excrement, in
> > other words, gorilla doo-doo.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> The only thing that changed between 2003 or so and late last year
> is that a lot of superior posters like Dave Kathman and Terry Ross
Kathman is a Lake Michigan poster ; (& Ross is Chesapeake Bay).
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> dropped out, along with anti-Stratfordians like Diana Price's
> husband. They dropped out because they'd had their say.
.
Haven't you had your say yet, Bob? (I certainly haven't.)
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> In the past few months, though, Houlsby and Spinoza came aboard.
Start the bilge pump up, quick!
> They are responsible
> for the increase in bad manners, Houlsby provoking it in
> others (Ignoto was never uncouth that I remember until
> Houlsby came along), Spinoza by just being himself.
<<We do not know for certain what Spinoza's "monstrous deeds" &
"abominable heresies" were alleged to have been, but an educated guess
comes quite easy.>>
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/
> Meanwhile, the hyper-posters of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
Are Houlsby & Spinoza responsible for your bad manners too, Bob?
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> I prefer freedom of speech to controlled groups, myself, and will
> continue with HLAS regardless of any new group's formation
> --but would probably join such a group if asked,
.
Probably!? Only "if asked," Bob?
.
> as I shouldn't be, because I don't believe in hypocrisy
>--and I consider HLAS primarily a place to
> discuss and argue authorship since that's what
> it was clearly formed primarily to do.
.
Crystal clearly!
.
I, myself, almost always either discuss either:
.
1) authorship,
.
2) the Masonic/Rosicrucian conspiracy covering up the authorship or
.
3) the ambiguity of language (or equivocation) which makes
it totally ridiculous to take literary "historical facts" literally.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> Join Shaksper if you just want to talk about the plays as plays,
> etc., and get the standard opinions on them from the academics
> there (although some actually occasionally have interesting
> things to say--and there are still unpleasant exchanges there at
> times).
Say it aint so, Bob!
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> If I had any influence with Google, there is one thing I would
> suggest, if techincally feasible: granting members of groups like HLAS
> the power to start exclusive threads. It would work like this: if I
> wanted to discuss my theory that Chaucer wrote the works of
> Shakespeare with serious-minded persons only, I could start a thread
> that no one else could contribute to who was not on a list of names
> and addresses I would give to Google when I started the thread.
I thought you didn't believe in hypocrisy.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> People not on the list could start a companion thread if they wanted
> to, and they could read my thread, just not mess it up. The idea
> would be a sort of individually-moderated group-within-a-group.
>
Only pleasant exchanges......how quaint.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> As for Art as moderator, good grief.
Better than our own Lucy Van Pelt as moderator.
.
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> I'm sure he has declined the honor, but I haven't read his response yet.
.
We really should get Francis Bacon...he's a moderator in all things.
.
Art Neuendorffer
Greg Reynolds
In fact, you have never said that ever in your 180,000 posts here.
Greg Reynolds
(I could repost them all here and top your stoopid totals you know.}
George Orwell
bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> The only thing that changed between 2003 or so and late last year is
> that a lot of superior posters like Dave Kathman and Terry Ross
> dropped out, along with anti-Stratfordians like Diana Price's
> husband. They dropped out because they'd had their say. In the past
> few months, though, Houlsby and Spinoza came aboard. They are
> responsible for the increase in bad manners, Houlsby provoking it in
> others (Ignoto was never uncouth that I remember until Houlsby came
> along), Spinoza by just being himself. Meanwhile, the hyper-posters
> of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
You forgot lackpurity!
Hilarious that my newsreader shows about 10 posts
in this thread, while google show over 30.
See my demolition of Monsarrat's RES paper!
http://hometown.aol.com/kqknave/monsarr1.html
The Droeshout portrait is not unusual at all!
http://hometown.aol.com/kqknave/shakenbake.html
Agent Jim
John Bede
> > I agree with Art here. During 12 years' hysterical crusading we have
> > managed to collect a considerable audience all round the world,
> > laughing their sides off at the lunatics' gallery and their
> > increasingly exaggerated pranks here, and we wouldn't like to lose
> > that entertainment - neither would the world.
>
> MM:
> I notice you use the word "lunatics," rather loosely here. I suppose
> you purposely left it ambiguous. I think most of the world is
> Stratfordian, which is a step in the right direction. Some might take
> Shakespeare more seriously, than just a form of entertainment. Since,
> you appear to be Anti-Stratfordian, your implication that you can
> speak for what the world wants to keep, is absurd and ridiculous.
The world has been retreating from stratfordianism in reaction against
the person cult ever since it started. You have fallen into the trap
of person cult mainly by adoring yourself first of all.
Neuendorffer, Crowley and Elizabeth at least try to aim at the truth
and sometimes succeed in mediating fragments of it, unlike you, who
are the chief distortioner of it here, being the principal adherent to
the absurdities of any person cult.
JB
Mark Houlsby
Only if they're the provoked kind. (Apologies to Carla Bley).
I'm not as
> against you as a lot of others are, but I do think your game tired and
> silly--and ridiculously self-righteous and authoritarian.
>
So do I.
Mark H.
> --Bob G.
spearshaker
> > on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com.
> > Tune in if you are interested.>>
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Adam Gorightly? (He's not going to sing Moon River is he?)
No! Not Moon River!!!!!
He is going to interview me about my book.
********************************
P.P.S. Adam Gorightly's interview with me last night went very well, I
think. I listened to it this morning. I also was able to download the
interview to my computer, thanks to the miracle of modern technology.
Now I can listen to myself talk any time I want. You too can hear this
interview at:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Gorightly.
"Shakespeare" even got a mention, in Adam's introduction. He mentioned
that I was the editor and publisher of "Spear Shaker Review", a short-
lived publication which included some very fine Oxfordian articles by
a variety of authors. Now that I am getting my feet wet in up-to-date
publishing technology,I plan to reissue these articles as an
anthology, either in print or as an e-book. ASAP (whenever that is.)
Stephanie Caruana
http://gemstone-file-memoir.com
lyra
>
> Meanwhile, the hyper-posters
> of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
_____________________________________________
And to think I wished this creature a happy birthday!
well, I never will again!
I hope all its birthdays are foul ones.
and it is killfiled, for life. permanently.
some of its stuff was interesting.
but then, there is a whole web and net full of much better things.
_______________________________________________________
> If I had any influence with Google,
_________________________________
thank GOD it does not!
____________________________________
lyra
>
> <bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1173219222.8...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The only thing that changed between 2003 or so and late last year is
> > that a lot of superior posters like Dave Kathman and Terry Ross
> > dropped out, along with anti-Stratfordians like Diana Price's
> > husband. They dropped out because they'd had their say. In the past
> > few months, though, Houlsby and Spinoza came aboard. They are
> > responsible for the increase in bad manners, Houlsby provoking it in
> > others (Ignoto was never uncouth that I remember until Houlsby came
> > along), Spinoza by just being himself. Meanwhile, the hyper-posters
> > of irrelevant crap, Lyra and Art stayed on.
>
> A good summary of the situation.
>
> TR
_________________________________________
Needless to say, THIS creature is killfiled too.
In THIS case, that is NO loss.
_________________________________________
When Marlowe IS proved to be the author, you are going to look
very stupid and ignorant indeed.
Till then, you'll hear no more from me.
If I am the one who finds out any information on the subject,
this group will be the LAST to know.
And HOW IGNORANT it will look.
_________________________________________________________
I withdraw any aid or information I have ever given this group.
I have kept it alive, together with one or two others.
NOW, it can die.
______________________________________________________________
Have you read the anagrams of this group?
They are completely accurate.
The very name of the group has always been a very bad one.
_________________________________________________________________
Forget the killfile.
I shall just never even look into this ugly and risible group
unless I want the archives.
____________________________________________________________________
A note to any...
I
_
WAS NOT JOKING, most of the time.
And I'm not now, either.
I am real and true to what I believe.
_
And more than happy to see the end of all this expletive deleted.
________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________
_______________________________________
lyra
On Mar 7, 5:13 pm, lyra wrote:
_________________
MY message to all
________________
NOTE -
no email will reach me.
So just don't bother.
______________________
For YEARS I have HATED this smug, ignorant, nasty
"newsgroup" -
and most of those in it.
I have stayed because I thought I ought to,
and this was JUST bearable,
because some of it was interesting, nice, funny, etc.
At last I see I should never have stayed in the first place.
Lately, a lot of things have seemed clear to me that didn't before -
call it a partial enlightenment -
what a waking-up!
>From all the con-tricks, ignorance and lousiness
of life in general, and this
newsgroup too, of course.
FINIS
________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________
_________________________________________
>
> When Marlowe IS proved to be the author, you are going to look
> very stupid and ignorant indeed.
>
> Till then, you'll hear no more from me.
__________________________________
> If I am the one who finds out any information on the subject,
>
> this group will be the LAST to know.
>
> And HOW IGNORANT it will look.
>
__________________________________________________________
> I withdraw any aid or information I have ever given this group.
>
> I have kept it alive, together with one or two others.
>
> NOW, it can die.
>
_______________________________________________________________
> Have you read the anagrams of this group?
>
> They are completely accurate.
>
> The very name of the group has always been a very bad one.
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> Forget the killfile.
>
> I shall just never even look into this ugly and risible group
> unless I want the archives.
>
_____________________________________________________________________
> A note to any...
>
> I
> _
>
> WAS NOT JOKING, most of the time.
__________________________________
Art Neuendorffer
Ah, Lyra, we hardly knew you. Take care.
.
Art Neuendorffer
lackpurity
wrote:
MM:
I'm for Lyra staying. Who cares if ALL her postings are not on
target? If God were that picky, then all of us will be sent to Hell.
Reedy should consider those of her postings which are close to the
target, or even on target. God judges us like that, the good, vis-a-
vis, the bad. It seems that Reedy is making an arbitrary judgment
here, without considering the whole iceberg.
Michael Martin
lackpurity
> On Mar 7, 11:44?am, Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
>
> > >>When Marlowe IS proved to be the author, you are going
>
> > >>Till then, you'll hear no more from me.
> > > __________________________________
>
> > Ah, Lyra, we hardly knew you. Take care.
> > .
> > Art Neuendorffer
>
> MM:
> I'm for Lyra staying. Who cares if ALL her postings are not on
> target? If God were that picky, then all of us will be sent to Hell.
> Reedy should consider those of her postings which are close to the
> target, or even on target. God judges us like that, the good, vis-a-
> vis, the bad. It seems that Reedy is making an arbitrary judgment
> here, without considering the whole iceberg.
>
> Michael Martin
MM:
Okay, I see that Bob Grum started it, and Reedy agreed with it. I
think both show a lack of love and compassion.
Michael Martin
John Bede
the pearls instead, even though they are getting more difficult to
find and more sparse, since fewer and fewer bother to waste them here,
but some of us still do mind the pearls, and you were one of them.
John Bede
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
I was, of course, referring to all the lurkers Bede thinks are looking
on.
--Bob G.
Mark Houlsby
They are, Bob. They saw what you just did to lyra.
--Mark H.
lackpurity
> > > I agree with Art here. During 12 years' hysterical crusading we have
> > > managed to collect a considerable audience all round the world,
> > > laughing their sides off at the lunatics' gallery and their
> > > increasingly exaggerated pranks here, and we wouldn't like to lose
> > > that entertainment - neither would the world.
>
> > MM:
> > I notice you use the word "lunatics," rather loosely here. I suppose
> > you purposely left it ambiguous. I think most of the world is
> > Stratfordian, which is a step in the right direction. Some might take
> > Shakespeare more seriously, than just a form of entertainment. Since,
> > you appear to be Anti-Stratfordian, your implication that you can
> > speak for what the world wants to keep, is absurd and ridiculous.
>
> The world has been retreating from stratfordianism in reaction against
> the person cult ever since it started.
MM:
Can you back this allegation up with any facts? I doubt it.
Shakespeare rivals the Bible in popularity, and most people, unless
you can prove otherwise, are still Strats. I haven't taken any polls,
have you? There are always some kooks, who want to rewrite history,
but I don't think the majority is congruent with that. But, if you
have the facts, I'll look at them.
> You have fallen into the trap
> of person cult mainly by adoring yourself first of all.
MM:
As if that first allegation wasn't enough, now you're giving us this
one? I'm just doing a duty, that's all. Since you, apparently, want
to speak for the WHOLE WORLD, then I could argue that you must be in
love with yourself, but I don't want to go there, frankly.
MM:
You sound like a whining Anti-Strat to me. Ignoto, Spinoza, and I,
offer our versions of the truth, just as your fellow Anti-Strats. We
just have a basic disagreement here. What is distorted, and who is
doing it? What are the absurdities? These are points, which have
been vigorously debated. Strats on one side, Anti-Strats on the
other.
You pigeonhole me as a "distortioner," but you don't have any proof of
that. Therefore, you're just blowing smoke up the backside of this
group. It's a form of whining. Grown-ups try to prove things, rather
than just relying on the crutch of whining.
Michael Martin
>
>
>
> > > > <<P.S. I am scheduled to be interviewed tonight at 6:00 pm, EST,
> > > > on "Adam Gorightly's" webradio show:www.blogtalkradio.com.
> > > > Tune in if you are interested.>>
> > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > Adam Gorightly? (He's not going to sing Moon River is he?)
>
> > > Madame Gowrongly would have been nicer.
>
> > > > Art Neuendorffer
>
> > > John Bede- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Stacia
>>
>> > What world is looking on, John? How come not one of them has ever
>> > chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
>>
>> I'm enjoying HLAS and I've always said so.
>I was, of course, referring to all the lurkers Bede thinks are looking
>on.
I'm kind of a lurker, but I've been lurking here for several years so
maybe I'm a mega-lurker now. I enjoy your posts, Bob, always have.
Same with Art's posts.
Stacia
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
Hmmm, mine AND Art's?! I dunno, Stacia. . . .
--Bob
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
Right, and they all concur with you that good maners are more
important than honesty. What I "did to" Lyra (and also did to Art,
who somehow survived) was merely state my opinion about her posts,
without euphemisms. That it caused her the amount of pain it
apparently did was not my intention, but I also feel that you
shouldn't swim in the Everglades if you don't like alligators.
--Bob G.
Mark Houlsby
Dude, I know all of that. You're missing the point. FWIW, like Stacia,
I enjoy your posts, but....
Mark H.
laraine
Bob, I think that it would help us if we
understood that you are giving your opinion
in a sort of 'joking' manner, not meaning that
you are not serious, but that you don't mean
it in a personal way. That's how I try to look
at things anyway. On the other hand, if you
call someone a wack, or if someone puts
someone under a label of 'being like a nazi,'
it's pretty hard for them not to take it personally.
Anyhow, we know that gangleri is your favorite
'wack.' Where is he anyway? We miss him.
C.
Art Neuendorffer
>>>
>>>>>What world is looking on, John? How come not one of
>>>>> them has ever chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
>>>On Mar 6, 9:42 pm, "Art Neuendorffer"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I was, of course, referring to all the lurkers
>>> Bede thinks are looking on.
>>
>>
>> They are, Bob. They saw what you just did to lyra.
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> Right, and they all concur with you that good maners are more
> important than honesty. What I "did to" Lyra (and also did to Art,
> who somehow survived) was merely state my opinion about her posts,
> without euphemisms. That it caused her the amount of pain it
> apparently did was not my intention, but I also feel that you
> shouldn't swim in the Everglades if you don't like alligators.
Lyra was clearly a very unhappy person who spent far
too much time here rather than living a real life.
.
If Bob helped to push her on to something more positive
in her life then it is probably all for the best.
.
Art Neuendorffer
lackpurity
MM:
Okay, so the trend is this. You and Trollsby will make this group an
alligator pit. Is that what the group wants? Group, are you awake?
Are you still sitting on your laurels? Now is the time for all good
men and women to stand up for their group.
Michael Martin
lackpurity
MM:
Probably all the intelligent, sensitive people have been chased out,
either by compulsive flamers, or alligators? That is what this group
has become, as Bob Grumman made it very clear.
Laraine, it appears to me that you must like the fact that HLAS has
become an alligator pit. You appear to be encouraging the alligators.
Michael Martin
lackpurity
MM:
Since this group has devolved to the status of an alligator pit, then
the spectators are watching from beyond the steel fence, as in a ZOO.
It's sad.
Michael Martin
laraine
> On Mar 8, 10:57?am, "laraine" <lari...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 9:31 am, bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 7, 8:18 pm, "Mark Houlsby" <mark.houl...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 8 Mar, 00:49, bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 6, 9:42 pm, "Art Neuendorffer"
>
> > > > > <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mar 6, 6:59 pm, bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> > > > > > > chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
>
> > > > > > I'm enjoying HLAS and I've always said so.
>
> > > > > > Art Neuendorffer
>
> > > > > I was, of course, referring to all the lurkers Bede thinks are looking
> > > > > on.
>
> > > > > --Bob G.
>
> > > > They are, Bob. They saw what you just did to lyra.
>
> > > > --Mark H.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Right, and they all concur with you that good maners are more
> > > who somehow survived) was merely state my opinion about her posts,
> > > apparently did was not my intention, but I also feel that you
> > > shouldn't swim in the Everglades if you don't like alligators.
>
> > > --Bob G.
>
> > Bob, I think that it would help us if we
> > understood that you are giving your opinion
> > in a sort of 'joking' manner, not meaning that
> > you are not serious, but that you don't mean
> > it in a personal way. That's how I try to look
> > at things anyway. On the other hand, if you
> > call someone a wack, or if someone puts
> > someone under a label of 'being like a nazi,'
> > it's pretty hard for them not to take it personally.
> > Anyhow, we know that gangleri is your favorite
>
> > C
>
> MM:
> Probably all the intelligent, sensitive people have been chased out,
> either by compulsive flamers, or alligators? That is what this group
> has become, as Bob Grumman made it very clear.
>
> Laraine, it appears to me that you must like the fact that HLAS has
> become an alligator pit. You appear to be encouraging the alligators.
>
> Michael Martin
I'm much more of a wack than an alligator,
actually.
C.
Mark Houlsby
Well, it's a point-of-view, but there's a NG expression, usually
reduced to its acronym: PDFTT.
On the other hand, if you
> call someone a wack, or if someone puts
> someone under a label of 'being like a nazi,'
> it's pretty hard for them not to take it personally.
Speak for yourself.
> Anyhow, we know that gangleri is your favorite
> 'wack.' Where is he anyway? We miss him.
>
That's the royal "we", I take it?
You seem to be feeding the alligators. Unquote.
M.
> C.- Hide quoted text -
laraine
I am speaking for myself and likely
many others who would feel that way.
>
> > Anyhow, we know that gangleri is your favorite
> > 'wack.' Where is he anyway? We miss him.
>
> That's the royal "we", I take it?
>
Well, that might be a funny joke (I might laugh
at it anyway), but no, I was actually thinking
of Tom Veal. And it wouldn't surprise me at
all if there were others who missed gangleri.
I could be wrong though about Veal.
> You seem to be feeding the alligators. Unquote.
Sounds like your POV...
C.
> M.
>
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
I think you have me pegged fairly well, C. I've already defended my
personality too often to want to go through the process again at any
length. I'll just say that I don't like euphemisms and indirect
insults (particularly from self-righteous dodos who consider
themselves morally superior), and that a main reason it may be too
easy for me to call wacks wacks is because I'm definitely a wack in
many ways myself--and, yes, ultimately I don't take anything
seriously, however seriously I can temporarily pontificate and rant
and argue.
Note to Michael: the Everglades have a lot more than alligators; my
point is that you should be able to deal with them to take them along
with all the good things in the Everglades (and you should be very
careful about SWIMMING there).
Oh, and yes, some very recent post made me think of Gangleri. I was
going to mention him but couldn't think of his name.
--Bob
Tom Reedy
news:1173399929.8...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If anybody could make a person miss gangleri, it would be Trollsby. He makes
gangleri looks like a genius.
TR
lackpurity
> "laraine" <lari...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
MM:
ROTFL
Michael Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> >> You seem to be feeding the alligators. Unquote.
>
> > Sounds like your POV...
>
> > C.
>
> >> M.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Mark Houlsby
> "laraine" <lari...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
This from a guy who just chased lyra out of the group, and whose
*recent* trolling behaviour clearly indicated that he is *twice* as
bad as spinoza1111, who he purports to despise.
If you're a joke, Reedy, you're not funny. Stop trolling.
MH
>
>
>
>
> >> You seem to be feeding the alligators. Unquote.
>
> > Sounds like your POV...
>
> > C.
>
> >> M.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Mark Houlsby
No doubt. All I'm saying is if you're going to feed the alligators and
walk through the flames, being offended by such absurd descriptions
suggests that you'll be hurt very badly, very often.
>
>
> > > Anyhow, we know that gangleri is your favorite
> > > 'wack.' Where is he anyway? We miss him.
>
> > That's the royal "we", I take it?
>
> Well, that might be a funny joke (I might laugh
> at it anyway), but no, I was actually thinking
> of Tom Veal. And it wouldn't surprise me at
> all if there were others who missed gangleri.
> I could be wrong though about Veal.
>
> > You seem to be feeding the alligators. Unquote.
>
> Sounds like your POV...
>
My point was that you complained to me recently about your getting
burned. You're walking into the flames. Don't complain again.
M.
> C.
>
John Bede
He was never funny since he always tried too hard to be funny. He
thinks it's funny to try and chase decent people out of this group.
That's his sense of sport - he is like Bob Grumman. In comparison,
Spinoza1111 is a saint.
JB
Stacia
>Hmmm, mine AND Art's?! I dunno, Stacia. . . .
It's true! I would never lie on Usenet.
Stacia
Mark Houlsby
So the evidence suggests.
MH
Mark Houlsby
There you are, Bob, it's official. Your posts are as "good" as Art's.
Time to break open the Elderflower Champagne (or at least it would be
if they could have called it that).
Mark
laraine
I'm not sure exactly when I have complained.
Quite frankly, it might be good if I could express
myself so well. It seems that people on this group
are constantly "complaining" every day, and I hardly
make a peep in comparison.
And are you suggesting that one shouldn't complain
when one feels burned?
C.
> M.
>
> > C.
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
times worse than Spinoza! I should be running security for the Trust,
not you!
--Brigadier Corporal SECOND-CLASS Grumman
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
Okay, Art, which of us should feel more insulted? Whoever it is, he
should pay for the hit on this woman. (Just kidding, Stacia. What I
*would* like is a psychiatric evaluation of you.)
--Bob
bobgr...@nut-n-but.net
> On Mar 8, 7:39?am, sta...@xmission.com (Stacia) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net writes:
> > >On Mar 6, 9:42 pm, "Art Neuendorffer"
> > >> On Mar 6, 6:59 pm, bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net wrote:
>
> > >> > chimed in to say he was enjoying HLAS?
>
> > >> I'm enjoying HLAS and I've always said so.
> > >I was, of course, referring to all the lurkers Bede thinks are looking
> > >on.
>
> > maybe I'm a mega-lurker now. ?I enjoy your posts, Bob, always have. ?
> > Same with Art's posts.
>
> > Stacia
>
> MM:
> Since this group has devolved to the status of an alligator pit, then
> the spectators are watching from beyond the steel fence, as in a ZOO.
>
> It's sad.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow, if just one post of mine had the power to "devolve HLAS to the
status of an alligator pit," Michael, I must be a slat goober up there
with Marlowe and Fritz the Cat, hunh!
--Rotten Robert
lackpurity
MM:
What's a slat goober?
Michael Martin
Tom Reedy
news:1173494009.9...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Go fuck yourself, you unpleasant little vermin.
>>
> Twice as bad? See, Reedy? Give up your commission! I'm at least ten
> times worse than Spinoza! I should be running security for the Trust,
> not you!
>
> --Brigadier Corporal SECOND-CLASS Grumman
Bob, if you'd quit replying to his masturbatory excretia, I woudn't be
driven to use such language.
TR
>
Stacia
>On Mar 9, 12:41 pm, sta...@xmission.com (Stacia) wrote:
>> bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net writes:
>> >On Mar 8, 8:39 am, sta...@xmission.com (Stacia) wrote:
>> >> maybe I'm a mega-lurker now. I enjoy your posts, Bob, always have.
>> >> Same with Art's posts.
>> >
>> >Hmmm, mine AND Art's?! I dunno, Stacia. . . .
>>
>> It's true! I would never lie on Usenet.
>>
>Okay, Art, which of us should feel more insulted? Whoever it is, he
>should pay for the hit on this woman. (Just kidding, Stacia. What I
>*would* like is a psychiatric evaluation of you.)
I've been on Usenet too long to get scared off that easy! My posts
date from before Deja News was archiving them, that's all the proof of
"sanity" you need.
Stacia
Mark Houlsby
> <bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net> wrote in message
Oh, come on, sure you would. If the two of you can drive lyra out of
the group, then you're *certainly* capable of anything else which
might harm the group.
Unfortunately, you *use* that capability all-too-often.
MH
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Mark Houlsby
"Please don't use me in your fights."
> Quite frankly, it might be good if I could express
> myself so well. It seems that people on this group
> are constantly "complaining" every day, and I hardly
> make a peep in comparison.
>
True.
> And are you suggesting that one shouldn't complain
> when one feels burned?
>
No. I'm suggesting that you got burned, and complained, protesting (it
seems) that getting burned is not for you. If so, fine.
However, since then you have walked in the flames. You're doing it
now.
M.
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Laila Roth
Why don't you go and just fuck up Tom Reedy and Ignoto? Surely you can
take two at the same time.
LR
Mark Houlsby
Excellent advice, Ms. Roth. Set about them, Mr. Rotten.
Slightly-unkempt Mark
John Bede
They have been at it all the time.
JB