NEUNSPAMMER: Wow, Art, HLAS Is Nearly Yours and Yours ALONE.
Elizabeth
It won't be long, Art, until you and Oxford will be alone
together at last because you have nearly succeeded in driving
all the posters out of HLAS. Nineteen Neuendorffish headers
on today's HLAS homepages with hours to go until midnight.
When it gets down to just you and me, I'll bid you a
disgruntled adieu and head off to Blogger. And try not
to step on Oxford and be sure to watch out for sharp
objects.
Greg Reynolds
Yes, sad.
HLAS has to reorganize now as How.Lame.Art's.Spam
It is one-third weather/space reports, one-third lists and lists
showing weather and space reports to be Oxfordian in nature, and
one-third... well the rest is people with machetes trying to still
clear through.
At least Art's death won't go unnoticed like Oxford's did--we'll know
within 5 hours or so when he stops tagging the place with his graffiti.
Sincerely,
one of his rare readers (and it is becoming rarer than ever),
Greg Reynolds
Art Neuendorffer
Grow up and/or figure out how to killfile me.
Art N.
Elizabeth
Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> Elizabeth wrote:
> > When it gets down to just you and me, I'll bid you a
> > disgruntled adieu and head off to Blogger. And try not
> > to step on Oxford and be sure to watch out for sharp
> > objects.
> >
>
> Grow up and/or figure out how to killfile me.
>
> Art N.
No. I'm not the one abusing the privilege of posting
in this newsgroup and I like posting from the HLAS
homepage.
I think Greg has hit on the problem. You're marking
your territory. Do you want me to sew you a big puppy
suit? Will you wear it when you post if I do?
Art Neuendorffer
>
>>>When it gets down to just you and me, I'll bid you a
>>>disgruntled adieu and head off to Blogger. And try not
>>>to step on Oxford and be sure to watch out for sharp
>>>objects.
>>>
>
>>Grow up and/or figure out how to killfile me.
Elizabeth wrote:
>
> No. I'm not the one abusing the privilege of posting
> in this newsgroup
I'm not the one abusing anything; I write intelligent,
thoughtful and original posts. If they are over
the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
Elizabeth wrote:
> and I like posting from the HLAS homepage.
Then figure out how to
killfile me from the HLAS homepage.
Elizabeth wrote:
> I think Greg has hit on the problem. You're marking
> your territory. Do you want me to sew you a big puppy
> suit? Will you wear it when you post if I do?
Do you have extensive experience making puppies?
Art Neuendorffer
wate...@financier.com
> thoughtful and original posts. If they are over
> the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
without Art's, wouldn't it?
but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
i did read most of this,
because Art actually said something himself
waterboy
[no expert, just love the cannon]
Neuter Argenauter
tap, tap, tap...
[to the tune of Mr Burn's "See my vest"]
See my SPAM, See my SPAM
Yes, I really don't damn
If you think that it's shit
No, couldn't care one little bit
See my SPAM, See my SPAM
Yes it makes me what I am
(See this book it was profound
Till it was oXford bound)
Lines of nonsense, had your fill?
I'll feed you till you're ill!
See MY SPAM, SEE MY SPAM, SEEEEE MYYYYY
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nordicskiv2
Be reasonable, Art -- how do you expect someone who thinks that
h.l.a.s. is owned by Google (or that there is an "HLAS homepage") to
learn to use a killfile? Long experience shows that Elizabeth cannot
even learn to use the Google archive competently.
> Art N.
nordicskiv2
Elizabeth wrote:
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > > When it gets down to just you and me, I'll bid you a
> > > disgruntled adieu and head off to Blogger. And try not
> > > to step on Oxford and be sure to watch out for sharp
> > > objects.
> > Grow up and/or figure out how to killfile me.
> >
> > Art N.
> No. I'm not the one abusing the privilege of posting
> in this newsgroup and I like posting from the HLAS
> homepage.
And just what do you think the "HLAS homepage" is?
> I think Greg has hit on the problem. You're marking
> your territory. Do you want me to sew you a big puppy
> suit? Will you wear it when you post if I do?
Only if it fits under his tinfoil helmet.
Elizabeth
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > No. I'm not the one abusing the privilege of posting
> > in this newsgroup
>
> I'm not the one abusing anything; I write intelligent,
> thoughtful and original posts. If they are over
> the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
If Lucy Van Pelt were posting in HLAS she's be in a
spamming contest with you, Art. Lucy is the trickster
archetype.
[...]
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > I think Greg has hit on the problem. You're marking
> > your territory. Do you want me to sew you a big puppy
> > suit? Will you wear it when you post if I do?
>
> Do you have extensive experience making puppies?
So now I'm a bitch because I'm offended by spamming.
Does that make several billion online users bitches?
Elizabeth
> > I'm not the one abusing anything; I write intelligent,
> > thoughtful and original posts. If they are over
> > the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
>
> Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
> the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
> without Art's, wouldn't it?
No. After Google acquired whatever part of Usenet
it acquired it put a 'Groups' link right over a search
box that gets hundreds of millions of hits a day.
HLAS is only two clicks away from the Google
search page. That should have given HLAS participation
a bump but the number of posters participating in HLAS
have only continued to dive.
This forum has three problems. 1) ganging up on individual
posters -- that came to a tragic head a couple of weeks ago
and it's the kind of vicious behavior that attracks only the
vicious to HLAS; 2) attracting posters that are interested in
esoteric areas not related to the Shakespeare works; and
3) spamming.
Art gets credit for not being in the first category. Art has been
a relative model of civility toward other individuals in HLAS
and I admire that.
> but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
> intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
> thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
It's too hard to pick through the coal to find the diamonds.
It's HARD WORK, Art.
nordicskiv2
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
[...]
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > No. I'm not the one abusing the privilege of posting
> > in this newsgroup
> I'm not the one abusing anything;
It has been suggested before that your posts are largely the outcome
of self-abuse, Art.
> I write intelligent,
Initelligent?! Rhapsodizing about the remarkable fact that the
number 19 is both the sum of two consecutive integers and the
difference of their squares is intelligent?! Proclaiming that "vier"
is Spanish for "four" is intelligent?! (I would have thought that, in
view of your surname, even you would have realized that German and
Spanish are distinct langauges, Art.) Declaring that two men a quarter
century apart in age, one an industrial plant manager and the other an
Emeritus Yale scholar, must be the same person because they happen to
share the same first and last names (despite the fact that the former
is Peter A. Gay and the latter Peter J. Gay) is intelligent?! Dating
Virgil prior to Herodotus is intelligent?! Characterizing Anne
Hathaway as William Shakespeare's mother is intelligent?! Attributing
to Goethe secret ciphers in the English translations of his novels
(oVER which he had scant control) is intelligent?! "Agnes a gob" is
intelligent?!
> thoughtful
If you admit that any actual *thought* goes into your posts, then I
am VERy disappointed in your "thinking," Art! Indeed, your posts
appear to be mostly mindless grepping, abetted by cretinous credulity.
> and original
Well, Virgil as predecessor of Herodotus is certainly original --
I'll grant you that. Anne Hathaway as mother of William Shakespeare is
also original. Even "Agnes a gob" is original -- indeed, it must be,
since (to paraphrase Woodhouse) no sane person with an IQ requiring at
least two digits to express in decimal positional notation would be
caught dead in a ditch with it.
> posts. If they are over
> the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
It's a frightening thought, but your posts may indeed be above
Elizabeth's head, Art. In view of her scientific crankery, I doubt
that she would have any better luck with the number 19 than you did.
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > and I like posting from the HLAS homepage.
> Then figure out how to
> killfile me from the HLAS homepage.
Better yet, ask her to post the URL of the "HLAS homepage."
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > I think Greg has hit on the problem. You're marking
> > your territory. Do you want me to sew you a big puppy
> > suit? Will you wear it when you post if I do?
> Do you have extensive experience making puppies?
Excellent, Art -- as I said, your posts are sometimes original. I
won't say intelligent, because Elizabeth handed you that one on a
platter, and I found the obvious rejoinder difficult to resist myself.
> Art Neuendorffer
Roundtable
>
> It won't be long, Art, until you and Oxford will be alone
> together at last because you have nearly succeeded in driving
> all the posters out of HLAS.
Well....HLAS has 231 posters yet Google tells us that "millions can
read
our posts".
Art lunga vita brevis. We're not driven out, we're gasping on our
deck-chairs
and beds and sofas trying to deal with the sticky heat and our plump
little sausage fingers have swollen up even more in the heat so that
when
we try to type it looks lkiuke zthois...so we don't, and watch TV
instead.
Roundtable
http://villakreuzbuch.4t.com
bookburn
"Elizabeth" <elizabe...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150486814....@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> wate...@financier.com wrote:
>> > I'm not the one abusing anything; I write intelligent,
>> > thoughtful and original posts. If they are over
>> > the head of 'Lucy Van Pelt' then I'm not surprised.
>>
>> Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
>> the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
>> without Art's, wouldn't it?
>
>
>
> No. After Google acquired whatever part of Usenet
> it acquired it put a 'Groups' link right over a search
> box that gets hundreds of millions of hits a day.
>
>
>
> HLAS is only two clicks away from the Google
> search page. That should have given HLAS participation
> a bump but the number of posters participating in HLAS
> have only continued to dive.
>
>
>
> This forum has three problems. 1) ganging up on individual
> posters -- that came to a tragic head a couple of weeks ago
> and it's the kind of vicious behavior that attracks only the
> vicious to HLAS; 2) attracting posters that are interested in
> esoteric areas not related to the Shakespeare works; and
> 3) spamming.
Some of the problems common to boards and other news groups do manifest at
h.l.a.s., I'm sure. But we do have a common cause in how we relate to
Shakespeare, and that is our anchor, no doubt. See how h.l.a.s. coasts are
watched by lifeguards. Why, if we were invaded by vicious nazi spammers, I
would expect to see Art bring out his machine gun and defend the sanctuary.
bookburn
gangleri
> Some of the problems common to boards and other news groups do manifest at
> h.l.a.s., I'm sure. But we do have a common cause in how we relate to
> Shakespeare, and that is our anchor, no doubt. See how h.l.a.s. coasts are
> watched by lifeguards. Why, if we were invaded by vicious nazi spammers, I
> would expect to see Art bring out his machine gun and defend the sanctuary.
As resident of the Washington D.C. area, I have always associated the
punch line of the popular song "Bring in the Clowns" - "don't bother -
they're here" - with Washington D.C.
As for "vicious nazi spammers" on HLAS, I don't know how one would
identify them - except by their own uebermensch illusions in matters
Shakespearean and the golden shithouse-rat Star of David they pin on
crazy-ass mother-fuckers who do not partake of their illusions?
Find the language abhorrent?
Meet Tom Reedy and David Kathman - they're here on HLAS.
Elizabeth
I dunno, bookburn. So far we've got vicious nazi
spammers with machetes per Greg versus Art, Snoopy
and Oxford.
bookburn
Machetes? If this were the Roman Coliseum, where Shakespeare is celebrated
every day by partisans, I would expect to see you as one of the interesting
types of gladiators:
a.. the Dimachaerus, which used two swords and no shield,
b.. the Essedarius, which rode on chariots,
c.. the Laquearius, which used a lasso and a lance,
d.. the Paegniarius, which used a club, whip, and shield,
e.. the Bestiarius, which was able to fight all types of animals,
f.. the Secutor, which used a large, sphere-like helmet with a rectangular
shield.
g.. the Tertiarius, or a substitute fighter. In the event that three men
fought each other, the Tertiarius would fight the winner of the match
How about essedarius for you, because you enter the arena at a trot, pull
yourself around in a chariot named "Bacon," and tend to roll right over
adversaries?
Art might be bestiarius, because he takes on everyone as an animal trainer,
constantly flicking his whip?
Reynolds is possibly laquearius, with a net and trident, capable of tripping
up someone with a machete and spearing them?
The secutor, wearing sphere-like helmet and rectangular shield, are probably
the intellectuals, carrying around a chess board, but willing to play word
games?
The paegniarius, with club and shield, are probably relatively harmless
walk-ons who interest themselves in dueling with blunt instruments?
I do recognize the tertiarius, or standby fighter who waits until three others
fight it out, then take on an apparent winner: that must be your feared
Kathman, Reedy, Webb, Ross, et al..
Someone doing battle with two swords and no shield, a dimachaerus, might be
Crowley, a master of offense who defends himself by snipping away offensive
posts.
bookburn
bookburn
"gangleri" <gunnar....@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1150502006.3...@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I hope you noticed Arts advice to Elizabeth, that she figure out how to block
him as a sender. Art must use the advice, himself and be blocking his own
posts. Freud might have something to say about this.
You are probably fated to confront Reedy's Texas humor as a function of your
karma. Why don't you forgive him and share some friendly cowpie/meadow-muffin
tossing, outhouse humor with him, as Texans do--after inquiring about family,
of course. bookburn
>
Art Neuendorffer
waterboy wrote:
>Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
>the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
>without Art's, wouldn't it?
>but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
>intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
>thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
>i did read most of this, because
> Art actually said something himself
> waterboy [no expert, just love the cannon]
--------------------------------------------------------
waterboy & the cannon:
http://www.rollercoasterworld.com/HP2002/watercannon.jpg
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020927/ncr.htm
It's tougher to make a spelling mistake
when one mostly copies & pastes.
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*CANNON* , n.; [F. cannon, fr. L. canna reed, pipe, tube.]
1. A great gun; a piece of ordnance or artillery;
a firearm for discharging heavy shot with great force.
2. (Mech.) A hollow cylindrical piece carried by a revolving shaft,
on which it may, however, revolve independently.
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*CANON* , n. [OE. canon, canoun, AS. canon rule (cf. F. canon, LL.
canon, and, for sense 7, F. chanoine, LL. canonicus), fr. L. canon a
measuring line, rule, model, fr. Gr. kanw`n rule, rod, fr. ka`nh,
ka`nnh, reed.] 1. A law or rule. "Or that the Everlasting had
not fixed His canon 'gainst self-slaughter." --Shak.
2. (Eccl.) A law, or rule of doctrine or discipline, enacted by
a council and confirmed by the pope or the sovereign; a decision,
regulation, code, or constitution made by ecclesiastical authority.
3. The collection of books received as genuine Holy Scriptures, called
the {sacred canon}, or general rule of moral and religious duty, given
by inspiration; the Bible; also, any one of the canonical Scriptures.
4. In monasteries, a book containing the rules of a religious order.
5. A catalogue of saints acknowledged in the Roman Catholic Church.
6. A member of a cathedral chapter; a person who possesses
a prebend in a cathedral or collegiate church.
7. (Mus.) A musical composition in which the voices begin one after
another, at regular intervals, successively taking up the same subject.
It either winds up with a coda (tailpiece), or, as each voice
finishes, commences anew, thus forming a perpetual fugue or round.
8. (Print.) The largest size of type having a specific name; -- so
called from having been used for printing the canons of the church.
9. The part of a bell by which it is suspended;
-- called also {ear} and {shank}.
----------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
>>Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
>>the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
>>without Art's, wouldn't it?
Elizabeth wrote:
>
> No. After Google acquired whatever part of Usenet
> it acquired it put a 'Groups' link right over a search
> box that gets hundreds of millions of hits a day.
Elizabeth wrote:
>
> HLAS is only two clicks away from the Google
> search page. That should have given HLAS participation
> a bump but the number of posters participating in HLAS
> have only continued to dive.
Of the 11 months of May HLAS has been operating
last May had the 3rd highest number of posts
(= the most since May 2001).
Elizabeth wrote:
> This forum has three problems. 1) ganging up on individual
> posters -- that came to a tragic head a couple of weeks ago
> and it's the kind of vicious behavior that attracks only the
> vicious to HLAS;
E.g., ganging up on Neuendorffer.
Elizabeth wrote:
>
> 2) attracting posters that are interested in
> esoteric areas not related to the Shakespeare works;
Bacon as author isn't esoteric?
Elizabeth wrote:
> and 3) spamming.
> Art gets credit for not being in the first category. Art has been
> a relative model of civility toward other individuals in HLAS
> and I admire that.
I just fell off my chair.
> wate...@financier.com wrote:
>>but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
>>intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
>>thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
There's method in the madness...but you have to read more than 1%
Elizabeth wrote:
> It's too hard to pick through the coal to find the diamonds.
Diamonds are coal...just ask Superman.
Elizabeth wrote:
>
> It's HARD WORK, Art.
I nEVER promised a rose garden.
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_____ *HET* : To *PROMISE* . --Chaucer.
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Epigrammes in the Oldest Cut & Newest Fashion. - JOHN WE-EVER
.
"They burn in love, thy children Shakespear *HET* THE[m]
__ Go, wo thy Muse, more Nymphish brood beget THE[m]."
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__ /T/ O {T} [H] (E) ON(L)I[E]B)EG(E)T[T]E)RO(F)T[H]ESEIN[S]VINGS
_-/O/ NN [E T] SMR{W}HALL[H]{A}PPINE{S}S[E]AND{T}HATE[T]{E}
_/R/ NI__ [T{I}E] *PROMISED* BYOVREVERLIVINGPOET
/W/ IS_ [H E T H] *THE* WELLWISHINGADVENTVRERIN
___________________________ SETTINGFORTH-TT
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> wate...@financier.com wrote:
>>i did read most of this,
>>because Art actually said something himself
>>
>>waterboy
>>[no expert, just love the cannon]
If I could turn back time.
http://static.flickr.com/24/36872052_8c1eb77530_m.jpg
http://home.att.net/~stephen821/photoalbum/hawaii00/mo04.jpg
Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
> Some of the problems common to boards and other news groups do manifest
> at h.l.a.s., I'm sure. But we do have a common cause in how we relate
> to Shakespeare, and that is our anchor, no doubt. See how h.l.a.s.
> coasts are watched by lifeguards. Why, if we were invaded by vicious
> nazi spammers, I would expect to see Art bring out his machine gun and
> defend the sanctuary. bookburn
And waterboy at his cannon.
http://www.rollercoasterworld.com/HP2002/watercannon.jpg
Art N.
Art Neuendorffer
> I hope you noticed Arts advice to Elizabeth, that she figure out how
> to block him as a sender. Art must use the advice, himself and be
> blocking his own posts. Freud might have something to say about this.
Au contraire.
The primary reason I make so many different headers
(rather than simply reply to myself) is primarily
to make my posts easy to find and to search.
My posts are essentially my way of thinking
out loud while organizing my thoughts.
While I appreciate comments and am always willing
to explain anything in my posts I am usually
relatively oblivious of the fact that I might
actually have an audience at any given time.
In other words, I post for myself.
Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> > wate...@financier.com wrote:
>
> >>Art's spam doesn't bother me, for some reason;
> >>the board would seem to have many fewer posts,
> >>without Art's, wouldn't it?
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > No. After Google acquired whatever part of Usenet
> > it acquired
It is quite extraordinary that Elizabeth *still* thinks that Google
took possession of part of Usenet, after having the matter patiently
explained to her by Dave Kathman -- but Elizabeth apparently has always
been ineducable.
> > it put a 'Groups' link right over a search
> > box that gets hundreds of millions of hits a day.
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > HLAS is only two clicks away from the Google
> > search page. That should have given HLAS participation
> > a bump but the number of posters participating in HLAS
> > have only continued to dive.
> Of the 11 months of May HLAS has been operating
> last May had the 3rd highest number of posts
> (= the most since May 2001).
What fraction of those posts are from
aneuendor...@comicass.nut?
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > This forum has three problems. 1) ganging up on individual
> > posters -- that came to a tragic head a couple of weeks ago
> > and it's the kind of vicious behavior that attracks [sic]
Absolutely -- it attracks vicious attacts!
> > only the
> > vicious to HLAS;
> E.g., ganging up on Neuendorffer.
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > 2) attracting posters that are interested in
> > esoteric areas not related to the Shakespeare works;
> Bacon as author isn't esoteric?
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > and 3) spamming.
>
> > Art gets credit for not being in the first category. Art has been
> > a relative model of civility toward other individuals in HLAS
> > and I admire that.
Elizabeth forgets that Art characterized Buckeye Pete as "a
blithering idiot." Nor is Elizabeth aware of Art's critique of the
work of Lynne Kositsky and Dr. Stritmatter, work that Art has neVER
even read.
> I just fell off my chair.
I thought that your establishment had restraints on all the
furniture to complement the padding on the walls, Art -- one can't be
too careful.
> > wate...@financier.com wrote:
> >>but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
> >>intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
> >>thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
> There's method in the madness...
You have it backwards, Art -- there is madness (and nothing but
madness) in your method.
> but you have to read more than 1%
In view of the sheer volume, who (apart from the Grand Master's
trusted attaché and his research team) has time for that?!
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > It's too hard to pick through the coal to find the diamonds.
> Diamonds are coal...just ask Superman.
Diamonds are an Earl's best friend?
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > It's HARD WORK, Art.
If Art is to bait the Grand Master, how could he possibly fail to
be hard at work?
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
lyra
Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
>
Elizabeth
> Of the 11 months of May HLAS has been operating
> last May had the 3rd highest number of posts
> (= the most since May 2001).
THANKS TO YOUR UNREMITTING INDUSTRY.
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > This forum has three problems. 1) ganging up on individual
> > posters -- that came to a tragic head a couple of weeks ago
> > and it's the kind of vicious behavior that attracks only the
> > vicious to HLAS;
> E.g., ganging up on Neuendorffer.
SELF PITY? SNOOPY DOESN'T PITY HIMSELF.
> Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > 2) attracting posters that are interested in
> > esoteric areas not related to the Shakespeare works;
>
> Bacon as author isn't esoteric?
NO. BACON IS ENGLISH COMMON LAW. A NATURAL SCIENTIST
AND THE FIRST DRINKER OF BOTTLED BEER. THE FIRST TO
DESCRIBE GRAVITATION. THE FIRST TO DESCRIBE THE MOLECULAR
ACTION OF HEAT. THE FIRST TO GRASP CALCULUS (RE NEWTON).
FIRST TO RECOGNIZE CONTINENTAL DRIFT. MADE MANY GEOLOGICAL
OBSERVATIONS IN THE SHAKESPEARE WORKS.
EVEN WHAT HE MISSED HE MISSED IN SCIENTIFIC PARLANCE.
BACON WOULD HAVE DISMISSED MASONRY AS
A SUPERSTITION.
MASONRY IS A MIDDLE CLASS PHENOMENON ANYWAY. BACON
WAS AN ELITIST.
THE ELIZABETHANS WERE NORMAL. THEY HAD A TRADITIONAL
SOCIETY CONSTRUCTED AROUND MARRIAGE AND PROPERTY.
AND ELIZABETHAN CYPTOLOGY WAS NOT ESOTERIC IT WAS
QUITE ORDINARY.
NOT ESOTERIC.
IT WAS BASED ON OLD ROMAN MILITARY CODES AND IT
GENRATED CALCULUS AND THE BINARY CODES FOR
COMPUTERS.
NORMAL. ORDINARY. UTILITARIAN.
NO CODGERS RUNNING AROUND IN CLOWN SUITS AND
FEZZES DECEND FROM ELIZABETHAN CRYPTOLOGY.
ANYONE WHO THINKS THE ELIZABETHANS WERE MASONS
IS TOTALLY IGNORANT OF HISTORY.
THE EGYPTIANS WEREN'T EVEN MASONS.
MASONRY WAS FASHIONED BY MILTON AND NEWTON
A F T E R
THE CHRISTIANS DEFEATED THE TURKS AT THE SEIGE
OF VIENNA.
THERE WAS NO ACCESS TO EGYPT UNTIL THE PEACE
SETTLEMENT WHICH FOLLOWED THE DEFEAT OF THE
ISLAMIC EMPIRE.
ALL BACON AND THE OTHER ELIZABETHANS KNEW OF
EGYPT WAS
FROM THE BIBLE
THE ELIZABETHANS HAD THE BIBLE AND ROMAN TEXTS BUT
THEY DID NOT KNOW THE EGYPTIANS.
WHEN MILTON & NEWTON ET AL FINALLY AQUIRED EGYPTIAN
PAPYRI AFTER THE DEFEAT OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, THEY
COULDN'T TRANSLATE IT
(THE ROSETTA STONE CAME AFTER NAPOLEON) SO
THEY MADE ESOTERIC NONSENSE OUT OF
WHAT THEY COULD NOT READ.
WHAT A BUNCH OF BONEHEADS!
HAD THEY TRANSLATED THE PAPYRI THEY WOULD HAVE
FOUND RACY EGYPTIAN NOVELS AND BUREAUCRATIC
PAPERWORK.
THE EGYPTIANS WERE SMART, SEXY AND FUNNY. THEY
REMIND ME OF NEW YORK JEWS.
UNLIKE NEWTON, MILTON AND SMALL TOWN KANSAS
BUSINESSMEN BEFORE WALMART AND ART NEUENDORFFER
THE EGYPTIANS WERE
NOT INTO MASONRY.
THE EGYPTIANS WERE VERY PRAGMATIC -- THE ENGAGINGLY
PRAGMATIC PROVERBS IS AN EGYPTIAN WORK -- AND THEY
WOULD HAVE THOUGHT NEWTON, MILTON AND NEUENDORFFER
. . . WHIMSICALLY ECCENTRIC.
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > and 3) spamming.
>
> > Art gets credit for not being in the first category. Art has been
> > a relative model of civility toward other individuals in HLAS
> > and I admire that.
>
> I just fell off my chair.
RELATIVE MODEL.
> > wate...@financier.com wrote:
>
> >>but Art's claim to "write" posts is questionable;
> >>intelligent & original -- maybe, but mostly copy & paste;
> >>thoughtful? i don't read 99% of them;
>
> There's method in the madness...
EXACTLY.
CRANKERY
*** IS ***
METHOD.
IT MATTERS NOT WHAT THE MATTER IS.
. . . but you have to read more than 1%.
WHEN YOU KNOW THE FORM OF THE THING YOU KNOW
ITS ESSENTIAL NATURE. (BACON).
UNBONDING THINGS (EINSTEIN, WEBB, NEUENDORFFER,
KANT, THE STRATS, LOONEY, GOETHE, FAUST PART II)
RESULTS IN
UNBONDED THINGS.
BACON SAID
STOP AT SECOND CAUSES.
DON'T ATOMIZE.
YOU, ART, DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FORM OF THE AUTHORSHIP
QUESTION.
YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT SECRETS
( THAT DON'T EXIST )
BY SMASHING THE CANON AND IN THE PROCESS YOU ARE
IRRADIATING THE HELL OUT OF US.
wate...@financier.com
but then i think -- what am i compelled to do,
when i wake in the morning? -- the stock market!
nice to actually hear Art, instead of all those
posts i don't have time to wade through,
and wouldn't understand 1/2 of anyway
waterboy
[not an expert, just love canons]
gangleri
> ALL BACON AND THE OTHER ELIZABETHANS KNEW OF
> EGYPT WAS
>
>
> FROM THE BIBLE
>
>
> THE ELIZABETHANS HAD THE BIBLE AND ROMAN TEXTS BUT
> THEY DID NOT KNOW THE EGYPTIANS.
According to Einar Pálsson, author of eleven books in Icelandic and
three in English based on his research over five decades, THE BIBLE is
replete with all there is to know about the world-view and symbolic
imagery of the ancient Egyptians.
In the concluding paragraph of his book "The Sacred Triangle of Pagan
Iceland," Einar wrote:
"IF the ideology of Egyptian kingship of the first dynasty was
inherited by later peoples and other cultures, it explains why such
seemingly diverse cultural phenomena as Celtic kingship, Peloponnesian
kingship, Pythagorean mysteries, Roman and Greek law as well as the
pagan assemboly at Þingvellir in Iceland and the kingship of Jesus
Christ are all found to be based on the same premises. The ideas
involved are older and probably inherent in the mental make-up of the
Stone Age people in Europe, but as now known and preserved these ideas
were inherited from Egypt." (Reykjavik, 1993, pp. 168-169)
As always, Einar began his summing up with "IF" to reaffirm that ALL we
can know about these things are in the realm of HYPOTHESIS - in the
present case, certain "seemingly diverse cultural phenomena" suddenly
appear not so "diverse" IF they did in fact represent a common cultural
heritage "inherited from Egypt."
IF Einar's hypothesis is valid, THEN "all Bacon and other Elizabethans"
NEEDED "to know of Egypt was [in] the bible" - albeit in symbolic form
with which you may not be familiar.
Elizabeth
> According to Einar Pálsson, author of eleven books in Icelandic and
> three in English based on his research over five decades, THE BIBLE is
> replete with all there is to know about the world-view and symbolic
> imagery of the ancient Egyptians.
What Art is addressing has nothing to do with the
Bible, He's talking about Masonry which was essentially
an American fad in the post Civil War era. There was an
outburst of these fraternal organizations like the Masons,
Elks and Eagles and Moose.
What I'm saying is that the symbology of Masonry is taken
NOT from the Bible but from popular works written by types l
ike Milton and Newton.
I have to say right now that women are not interested in
secret fraternal societies so I'm rushing through this post.
What Art thinks was passed down generation to generation
through secret societies was actually gotten from cheap
books printed in the late 17th century.
Any connection with the Bible was entirely in the mind of
Newton.
> In the concluding paragraph of his book "The Sacred Triangle of Pagan
> Iceland," Einar wrote:
>
> "IF the ideology of Egyptian kingship of the first dynasty was
> inherited by later peoples and other cultures, it explains why such
> seemingly diverse cultural phenomena as Celtic kingship, Peloponnesian
> kingship, Pythagorean mysteries, Roman and Greek law as well as the
> pagan assemboly at Þingvellir in Iceland and the kingship of Jesus
> Christ are all found to be based on the same premises.
We all take the Bible as literal history. That history includes
the upheaval and dislocation of peoples. Egypt is on geological
solid ground, it suffered no catastrophies like ice ages and
volcanic erruptions. Any civilization as stable as the Egyptian
is sure to have an influence on cultures in the that hemisphere,
north and south.
> The ideas
> involved are older and probably inherent in the mental make-up of the
> Stone Age people in Europe, but as now known and preserved these ideas
> were inherited from Egypt." (Reykjavik, 1993, pp. 168-169)
Israeli archeologists have discovered an Egyptian way station
under Jerusalem. There was even an Egyptian temple erected
on the site. Egypt periodically conquered much of the ancient
Near East. I don't see anything surprising about the influence
of Egyptian culture.
> As always, Einar began his summing up with "IF" to reaffirm that ALL we
> can know about these things are in the realm of HYPOTHESIS - in the
> present case, certain "seemingly diverse cultural phenomena" suddenly
> appear not so "diverse" IF they did in fact represent a common cultural
> heritage "inherited from Egypt."
>
> IF Einar's hypothesis is valid, THEN "all Bacon and other Elizabethans"
> NEEDED "to know of Egypt was [in] the bible" - albeit in symbolic form
> with which you may not be familiar.
This 'Bacon was a Mason' stuff is an invention, probably
invented by American Victorians. Bacon was a Calvinist.
His use of the Bible in his works and if the author of the
Shakespeare works, those works, is biblically literal and
doctrinally neutral. The only striking thing is that he knows
the bible so completely.
What's going on here is that Art is attempting to imitate the
success of the Stratfordians in elevating the Illiterate Boob
by demonizing Bacon. It isn't going to work because we
know too much about Oxford. To apotheosize some literary
or historical figure, the biography has to be incomplete.
Go burn a few libraries Art, then get back to us.
nordicskiv2
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
> bookburn wrote:
>
> > I hope you noticed Arts advice to Elizabeth, that she figure out how
> > to block him as a sender. Art must use the advice, himself and be
> > blocking his own posts. Freud might have something to say about this.
> Au contraire.
>
> The primary reason I make so many different headers
> (rather than simply reply to myself) is primarily
> to make my posts easy to find and to search.
>
> My posts are essentially my way of thinking
> out loud while organizing my thoughts.
Congratulations, Art -- you are in exalted company indeed! One of
the most celebrated of Usenet...uh...eccentrics adopted the same
approach. I refer, of course, to the legendary Archimedes Plutonium,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Plutonium>.
In a post to sci.physics on July 13, 2002, Plutonium wrote:
"But not worried about it [sic] for the Internet is my open
notebook of science thoughts. And I
would rather show how my thoughts emerge into refined-thoughts."
Elsewhere, in a post dated May 31, 1998, Plutonium wrote:
"Sure, most people on Usenet science are cranks and their ideas
fritter fratter. But, in a
human population of what 3 trillion? What is the chances [sic] of a
genius appearing. And
would the genius go the route of the old road of peer review time
wasting baloney, or would
the genius just bypass all of that gauntlet and head directly to
Usenet and use Usenet as
a diary notebook. How much easier would it have been for Copernicus
to make his revolution
on Usenet? How much easier for Galileo. And how much easier for
me."
And elsewhere:
"I use the Net as a research notebook to log all my ideas from the
first glimmerings of a
new idea all the way to the later refined and polished idea."
I refer you to Mr. Plutonium's web page,
<http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/>,
Art -- you could learn a lot from him, and not merely about nutcase
numerology, a field in which you have already achieved some distinction
in your own right. HoweVER, Mr. Plutonium has a lengthy Wikipedia
entry, while aneuendor...@comicass.nut does not. The difference
lies not in any quality differential in your respective contributions
to the disciplines in which you nurse delusions of competence (indeed,
your contributions are quite comparable to those of Mr. Plutonium in
both quality and quantity); howeVER, Mr. Plutonium habitually spammed
more widely-read newsgroups (e.g., sci.physics and sci.math) and
crossposted a great deal, with the result that his theories are far
more widely known than yours. I trust that you understand that one
hilarious post in sci.physics attracts more readers than 100 hilarious
posts in h.l.a.s., particularly when the 100 posts are mostly idiotic
repetition of complete crap posted by you long ago and refuted long
ago.
> While I appreciate comments and am always willing
> to explain anything in my posts I am usually
> relatively oblivious of the fact that I might
> actually have an audience at any given time.
Rest assured, Art -- you have an audience of two: yourself, and
whomeVER the Grand Master assigns to monitor you.
> In other words, I post for myself.
Then you do yourself an injustice, Art -- if I were you, I
certainly would be reluctant to read the same idiotic crap posted fifty
times, particularly when multiple posts appearing on the same day
differ in only one or two letters.
> Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
>> Of the 11 months of May HLAS has been operating
>> last May had the 3rd highest number of posts
>> (= the most since May 2001).
Elizabeth wrote:
THANKS TO YOUR UNREMITTING INDUSTRY.
. You're welcome.
Elizabeth wrote:
>THE EGYPTIANS WERE SMART, SEXY AND FUNNY.
>THEY REMIND ME OF NEW YORK JEWS.
Moses is spinning in his grave.
---------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
>Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
>> The primary reason I make so many different headers
>> (rather than simply reply to myself) is primarily
>> to make my posts easy to find and to search.
>> My posts are essentially my way of thinking
>> out loud while organizing my thoughts.
Dwebb wrote:
<<Congratulations, Art -- you are in exalted company indeed! One
of the most celebrated of Usenet...uh...eccentrics adopted the same
approach. I refer, of course, to the legendary Archimedes Plutonium>>
. So I'm an Archimedes Plutonium am I!
-----------------------------------------------------------
<<Archimedes Plutonium (also known as Ludwig Plutonium) believes that
the entire universe is contained in the 94th electron of a Plutonium-231
atom. He also claims to have proved or disproved Fermat's Last Theorem,
The Four-Color Theorem, the Riemann Hypothesis, the Poincaré Conjecture,
Kepler's sphere-packing conjecture, the Goldbach conjecture, the
existence of odd perfect numbers, the infinitude of twin primes,
Cantor's continuum hypothesis, and Gödel's incompleteness theorem.>>
.
http://compgeom.cs.uiuc.edu/~jeffe/mathgames.html
http://arq.lanl.gov/source/orgs/nmt/nmtdo/AQarchive/98winter/pu231.html
.
. 231 = 7 x 33 [Masonic numbers!!]
.
<<Researchers in California Discover Plutonium-231, The Long-Sought
Isotope for 231Pu: Nearly 60 years after its discovery, plutonium still
has the magic associated with being one of the first synthetic elements
produced by humans. After so many years, chemists are still thrilled by
the complexity of its chemical properties and behavior. Mastering the
chemical complexity of plutonium has always been a challenge, but the
key challenge in the identification of the long-sought 231Pu isotope
(half-life of 8.6 ą 0.5 minutes). In our successful identification
experiment, an array of eleven very thin (~52 mg/cm2) 233U targets
was irradiated with 48-MeV 3He ions from the 88-Inch Cyclotron
at the Lawrence *BERKELEY* National Laboratory.>>
-------------------------------------------------------
. *BETATRON BALLERINA*
. *ROBERTA BALLANTINE*
.
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/04/14/Floridian/Marlowe_in_the_Park.shtml
.
<< *ROBERTA BALLANTINE* grew up in *BERKELEY* in an upper-class
family where tradition was valued. Then she attended California's
Pomona College, read Marlowe's plays, read Shakespeare's plays
& informed her professor, "They were written by the same man.">>
-------------------------------------------------------
.
Did you know Archimedes Plutonium at Dartmouth, Dave?
.
Was Archimedes Plutonium a Dartmouth crony of yours?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Plutonium
.
<<Archimedes Plutonium (born July 5, 1950) is primarily noted for his
varied and eccentric contributions to Usenet. Plutonium repeatedly
claimed to be the greatest living scientist, and referred to himself
at least once as "The King of Science", although he is almost
universally regarded as a crank. One of Plutonium's earliest and
most memorable posts in December, 1993 replies to Andrew Wiles'
report on the status of his proof of Fermat's last theorem.
.
Plutonium was long obsERVED on the campus of Dartmouth College, where he
rode around on a bicycle and wore an orange hunting hat and a homemade
cape decorated with atomic symbols in Magic Marker. Students frequently
saw him using the computer cluster in the basement of the Kiewit
Computation Centre, and he regularly published full-page advertisements
of his claims in the student newspaper, The Dartmouth. Plutonium worked
as a "potwasher" (he preferred this term over "dishwasher" because it
had the same starting letter and number of letters as plutonium) at
the Hanover Inn, which the college owns. When asked on Usenet how
this observed job jibed with his claims of wealth, Plutonium
explained that he only took the job in order to get Internet access.>>
...........................................................
. Robot (James Joyce) Wisdom Weblog for Sun, Jun 27, 1999
. http://www.robotwisdom.com/log1999m06b.html
...........................................................
In 1999 Plutonium posted various complaints about the management of
Dartmouth, calling for a strike by workers there and suggesting various
conspiracy theories concerning college administrators. Plutonium lost
his job at Dartmouth about August of 1999. After making what he termed
"science odyssey tours" of the United States and Europe, Plutonium
then moved to rural *MECKLING* SD, where he resumed his Usenet posting,
saying he now lives on a "homestead" apparently consisting of a house,
two Airstream trailers, and a grove of various sorts of trees.>>
...........................................................
*MECKLING* is a small town in the southeast corner of South Dakota.
Although not tracked by the Census Bureau, Meckling has been assigned
the ZIP code of 57044 [= 52 x 1097]. Due to the large number of farms
that grow the crop alfalfa it has become known as the "Hay Capital of
the UnIVERSe". Each August Meckling & it's neighboring town Gayville,
the Hay Capital of the World host the Annual Hay Days. In 1972,
the local school closed, and the residents were allowed to
choose between the Gayville or VERmillion school districts.
FW:541.36 : All in my thicville Escuterre ofen was thorough fear
but in the *MECKLING* of my burgh Belvaros was the site forbed.
...........................................................
<<In late 1990, Plutonium claimed to have had the realization of his
Plutonium Atom Totality Theory. He then changed his name to Ludwig
Plutonium. In autumn of 1994 he claims to have realized that he was
the reincarnation of the great early Greek scientist Archimedes,
and so once again changed his name to Archimedes Plutonium.
.
He is known for posting about his favorite types of fruit and candy to
unrelated science newsgroups. Archimedes Plutonium is often nicknamed
"Arky", "Archy", "Archie", "Archy Pu", or "Archie-Poo".>>
------------------------------------------------------------
Dwebb wrote:
<<In a post to sci.physics on July 13, 2002, Plutonium wrote:
"But not worried about it [sic] for the Internet
is my open notebook of science thoughts. And I would
rather show how my thoughts emerge into refined-thoughts."
Elsewhere, in a post dated May 31, 1998, Plutonium wrote:
"Sure, most people on Usenet science are cranks and their ideas
fritter fratter. But, in a human population of what 3 trillion?
What is the chances [sic] of a genius appearing. And would the
genius go the route of the old road of peer review time wasting
baloney, or would the genius just bypass all of that gauntlet
and head directly to Usenet and use Usenet as a diary notebook.
How much easier would it have been for Copernicus to make his
revolution on Usenet? How much easier for Galileo.
And how much easier for me."
And elsewhere:
"I use the Net as a research notebook to log all
my ideas from the first glimmerings of a new idea
all the way to the later refined and polished idea."
Art -- you could learn a lot from him, and not merely about nutcase
numerology, a field in which you have already achieved some distinction
in your own right. HoweVER, Mr. Plutonium has a lengthy Wikipedia
entry, while aneuendorffer114...@comicass.nut does not.>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
[A]rchimede[S] [P]lutoniu[M] only has 15,300 total posts to his name.
[A]r[T] [N]euendorffe[R] has 15,400!
------------------------------------------------------------------
Dwebb wrote:
<<The difference lies not in any quality differential in your respective
contributions to the disciplines in which you nurse delusions of
competence (indeed, your contributions are quite comparable to those
of Mr. Plutonium in both quality and quantity); howeVER, Mr. Plutonium
habitually spammed more widely-read newsgroups (e.g., sci.physics
and sci.math) and crossposted a great deal, with the result that
his theories are far more widely known than yours. I trust that
you understand that one hilarious post in sci.physics attracts
more readers than 100 hilarious posts in h.l.a.s.>>
.
Killing time at HLAS:
.
. Canon to right of us,
. Canon to left of us,
. Canon in front of us
. Volley'd and thunder'd.
. Hours knot to reason why,
. Hours shot to do & die.
.
>Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
.
>> While I appreciate comments and am always willing
>> to explain anything in my posts I am usually
>> relatively oblivious of the fact that I might
>> actually have an audience at any given time.
.
Dwebb wrote:
.
<<Rest assured, Art -- you have an audience of two: yourself,
and whomeVER the Grand Master assigns to monitor you.>>
.
. Lucky him (or her)!
.
>Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
.
>> In other words, I post for myself.
.
Dwebb wrote:
.
<<Then you do yourself an injustice, Art -- if I were you,
I certainly would be reluctant to read the same idiotic crap
posted fifty times, particularly when multiple posts appearing
on the same day differ in only one or two letters.>>
.
You generally criticize me based on only one or two letters
and if I don't correct these immediatedly they could easily
reappear fifty more times.
--------------------------------------------
Artie-POO (a.k.a. scOOPer) "The King of HLAS"
[8.6 ą 0.5 minutes & counting]
Elizabeth
Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
> >> Of the 11 months of May HLAS has been operating
> >> last May had the 3rd highest number of posts
> >> (= the most since May 2001).
>
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> THANKS TO YOUR UNREMITTING INDUSTRY.
>
You'll be welcomed, even adored in HLAS when
you stop spamming headers.
Maybe you don't know that HLAS has a homepage.
<http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare?lnk=srg>
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> >THE EGYPTIANS WERE SMART, SEXY AND FUNNY.
> >THEY REMIND ME OF NEW YORK JEWS.
>
> Moses is spinning in his grave.
The Egyptians in the Greco-Roman era wrote novels.
The Egyptians weren't writing novels in 800 bce.
Maybe if you look online you can find a sexy,
funny Egyptian novel to
SPLATTER ALL OVER HLAS.
> ---------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:
[...]
> >Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
> .
> >> While I appreciate comments and am always willing
> >> to explain anything in my posts I am usually
> >> relatively oblivious of the fact that I might
> >> actually have an audience at any given time.
> Dwebb wrote:
> .
> <<Rest assured, Art -- you have an audience of two: yourself,
> and whomeVER the Grand Master assigns to monitor you.>>
> . Lucky him (or her)!
I'm hoping for a less arduous assignment soon, but few operatives
have the necessary qualifications.
> >Art Neuendorffer <aneuendorffer114...@comcast.net>
> .
> >> In other words, I post for myself.
> Dwebb wrote:
> .
> <<Then you do yourself an injustice, Art -- if I were you,
> I certainly would be reluctant to read the same idiotic crap
> posted fifty times, particularly when multiple posts appearing
> on the same day differ in only one or two letters.>>
> You generally criticize me based on only one or two letters
> and if I don't correct these immediatedly they could easily
> reappear fifty more times.
What are you talking about, Art?! They DO reappear 50 more times,
whether I comment upon them or not. To put it bluntly, 95% of your
idiotic crap is recycled idiotic crap.
> --------------------------------------------
> Artie-POO (a.k.a. scOOPer)
I've already told you, Art -- you misunderstood; your mother was
saying "stoop," not "scoop."
> "The King of HLAS"
> [8.6 ± 0.5 minutes & counting]
Elizabeth
> Machetes? If this were the Roman Coliseum, where Shakespeare is celebrated
> every day by partisans, I would expect to see you as one of the interesting
> types of gladiators:
That requires more testosterone than I could muster up.
> a.. the Dimachaerus, which used two swords and no shield,
> b.. the Essedarius, which rode on chariots,
> c.. the Laquearius, which used a lasso and a lance,
> d.. the Paegniarius, which used a club, whip, and shield,
> e.. the Bestiarius, which was able to fight all types of animals,
> f.. the Secutor, which used a large, sphere-like helmet with a rectangular
> shield.
> g.. the Tertiarius, or a substitute fighter. In the event that three men
> fought each other, the Tertiarius would fight the winner of the match
> How about essedarius for you, because you enter the arena at a trot, pull
> yourself around in a chariot named "Bacon," and tend to roll right over
> adversaries?
I'm having a flashback to Gibbon.
> Art might be bestiarius, because he takes on everyone as an animal trainer,
> constantly flicking his whip?
Maybe flick his bic.
> Reynolds is possibly laquearius, with a net and trident, capable of tripping
> up someone with a machete and spearing them?
I could see Reynolds as head of the Peace Corps.
> The secutor, wearing sphere-like helmet and rectangular shield, are probably
> the intellectuals, carrying around a chess board, but willing to play word
> games?
Pass.
> The paegniarius, with club and shield, are probably relatively harmless
> walk-ons who interest themselves in dueling with blunt instruments?
>
> I do recognize the tertiarius, or standby fighter who waits until three others
> fight it out, then take on an apparent winner: that must be your feared
> Kathman, Reedy, Webb, Ross, et al..
Kathman? I took Kathman in the Dating The Tempest Part IV
debate.
> Someone doing battle with two swords and no shield, a dimachaerus, might be
> Crowley, a master of offense who defends himself by snipping away offensive
> posts.
I don't actually follow Crowley's post but he does seem to
have a lot of aplomb.
Art Neuendorffer
> Maybe you don't know that HLAS has a homepage.
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare?lnk=srg>
Why not bookmark a new "HLAS homepage" :
Elizabeth
You and Webb have been posting from the
Search Results Page all these years?
Art Neuendorffer
>>
>>>Maybe you don't know that HLAS has a homepage.
>>>
>>><http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare?lnk=srg>
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
>>Why not bookmark a new "HLAS homepage" :
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3Ahumanities.lit.authors.shakespeare+-author%3Aneuendorffer&start=0&scoring=d&?lnk
>
Elizabeth wrote:
> You and Webb have been posting from the
> Search Results Page all these years?
No.
lyra
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or, this one is more accurate,
if one wishes...
.............................................................................................................
(the time chosen is one week's postings,
it can be altered)
...........................................................................................
this may of course be useful in other ways,
e.g.,
keeping topics of no interest or that annoy
off one's list of postings,
or when there's little time.
...........................................................................................
http://groups.google.co.uk/advanced_search?q=&hl=en&
is the page for this.