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marco

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May 22, 2013, 12:32:23 PM5/22/13
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I believe I read, that some records were kept
by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
and if so, what sorts of records exist?

marc

marco

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May 22, 2013, 3:47:58 PM5/22/13
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neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 23, 2013, 3:39:51 AM5/23/13
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> Huh, are you reading my mind? I was just writing a post
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> on the Elizabethan "James Bond," Sir Francis Walsingham.
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> Bacon's somewhat older brother Anthony Bacon was
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> one of the first young men to be used to penetrate
>
> the Courts of Europe to gather information and
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> send it back to England via Walsingham's agents.
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> Coincidently, I bumped into the Wikipedia article
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> on Sir Francis Walsingham, I have to commend it
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> to anyone in HLAS who is interested in the build-
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> up to the Armada (I'm interested) during which
>
> time Walsingham (a handsome man by the way)
>
> took advantage of kids like Francis Bacon, putting
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> them in the Courts of Europe, Bacon spending
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> much time in France, undercover, writing with the
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> last of the Pleiades poets founded by the late
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> Pierre Ronsard. Bacon was at the Court of France
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> for at least three years with excursions to
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> Spain and Italy.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> marc

neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 24, 2013, 5:22:45 AM5/24/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
Elizabeth writes: See my post below. I've found Walsingham
>
> so interesting, I'm going to continue posting on his role
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> in defeating the Spanish Armada, not a small accomplishment.
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>
>
>

neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 24, 2013, 7:14:29 AM5/24/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> What, are you reading my mind? I was just browing around
>
> on Wikipedia and saw an article on Sir Francis Walsingham,
>
> the Queen's double oh seven. Walsingham was a phenomenon,
>
> he never slept. Knowing that he was put in charge of tracking
>
> the Spanish Armada kept me thinking about it all night,
>
> the responsibilities that Walsingham accepted on behalf of
>
> the Queen were daunting, Walsingham didn't care if he lived
>
> or died, he was bent on saving England, and he did place
>
> spies all over Europe, some of them as young as fourteen,
>
> Bacon was placed at the Court of France, I don't doubt that
>
> Bacon passed on information to his brother Anthony Bacon
>
> and his best friend from early childhood, Sir Toby Matthew,
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> son of the Archbishop of the Church of England, Matthew
>
> was also a budding genius, Matthew, like Bacon found easy
>
> entree at the Courts of Europe.
>
> I have to say that I never tire of the Elizabethans, they
>
> had such unique and individualistic personalities,
>
> I bless the day I found HLAS (with certain exceptions).
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> marc

neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 27, 2013, 4:29:37 AM5/27/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> Not many as Walsingham, the Queen's 007 was the
>
> most secretive spymaster in England's history.
>
> Walsingham knew what the English were up
>
> against in fighting the Spanish Armada, Spain
>
> was a wealthy nation, England barely had an
>
> economy. Walsingham was probably tipped off
>
> that the Spanish were cutting timber in Russia,
>
> that indicated that the Spanish were serious about
>
> building ships for the Armada. Obviously there were
>
> no timber stands in Spain. I just can't get enough
>
> of the Elizabethans, for the most part they were
>
> more patriotic than we are and their culture was
>
> far more coherent.
>
> marc

neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 27, 2013, 4:35:35 AM5/27/13
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On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> THERE!
>
>
> Correction: I have to stop and fix the neonprose @ gmail.com above,
>
> I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
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> > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthes (the son of the
>
> > Archbishop of the Church of England), Bacon's
>
> > brother Anthony was sent to eastern Europe, I can't
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> > recall the name of the specific royal court where
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> > Anthony was sent to spy, but Walsingham (the guy
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> > never slept) was fanatical about sending particular
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> > agents to particular royal Courts.

neonprose @ gmail.com

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May 27, 2013, 4:40:05 AM5/27/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
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> > THERE!
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> >
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
ART. IF THE neonprose @ gmail.com happens again,
>
> > lemme know and I will go in and fix it. Sorry about that.

neonprose @ gmail.com

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Jun 2, 2013, 8:50:15 AM6/2/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
> >
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> >
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> > THERE!
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> >
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why that's separating but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
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> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> >
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> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
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> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
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> >
>
> > >
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> >
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> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the

neonprose @ gmail.com

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Jun 3, 2013, 2:43:46 AM6/3/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
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> > THERE!
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> >
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> > We'll see if it sticks, I don't want Art to go all paranoid on us.

neonprose @ gmail.com

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Jun 3, 2013, 2:47:34 AM6/3/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
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> > THERE!
>
> > I don't know what symbolic purpose Art sees in two little hiccups in
>
> > my gmail account but I'm always willing to stop and please Art.
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> > There's another I just had to fix.
>
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
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> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> >
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> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
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> >
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> > >
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> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
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> >
>
> > >
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> >
>
> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2013, 11:43:07 PM6/4/13
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On Friday, May 24, 2013 4:14:29 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> > O.K., Art, there's another one fixed, I have no idea why this
>
> > is happening. Try to keep your paranoia under control until
>
> > I can fix it.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2013, 11:47:38 PM6/4/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:29:37 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> I don't know why my name above keeps popping open, it seems
>
> > to stir up Art's paranoia, probably indicating to Art that I am
>
> > hired to do him harm. I don't know how to deal with his fears,
>
> > I think I'll just leave off posting on this page. I hope Google
>
> > has left us some interesting material.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 3:22:08 AM6/6/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> Well, Walsingham was Elizabeth's spymaster,
>
> Walsingham was brilliant, he probably saved
>
> England from the Spanish Armada. While
>
> I'm thinking of it, Elizabeth's speech at Tillsbury
>
> was written by her son, Francis Bacon. It's
>
> an amazing speech, I think you can find it on
>
> Wikipedia. I know that Villiers was asked by
>
> Leonel Sharp whether Bacon wrote the Tillsbury
>
> speech, Villiers answered "yes." Bacon, of course,
>
> did not deliver the speech but Elizabeth's famous
>
> line is that "I have the heart and stomach of a king
>
> and a king of England too." Wonderful speech they
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> don't make them like that anymore, and she delivered
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> the speech just as the Spanish Armada was plowing
>
> up the English Channel. The Spanish forces were
>
> overwhelming but the English ships fearlessly engaged
>
> them and when the cannons went silent and the smoke
>
> cleared, a lot of Spanish galleons were at the bottom
>
> of the Channel.
>
> Elizabeth p.s. the spelling of Leonel Sharp is found
>
> on Wikipedia's page on the Spanish Armada.
>
> marc

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 3:30:14 AM6/6/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > THERE!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> >
>
> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > > The secretive Walsingham was in charge of whatever
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> > > records were kept, he was very secretive (and very
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> > > handsome, in this era Walsingham is referred to as
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> > > the model for James Bond, and in fact Walsingham
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> > > took double oh seven as his insignia which was later
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> > > borrowed for the James Bond movies.
>
> >
>
> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 3:33:56 AM6/6/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > THERE!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> > . . . ok, that's done.
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the
>
> >
>
> > > Archbishop of the Church of England), Bacon's
>
> >
>
> > > brother Anthony was sent to eastern Europe, I can't
>
> >
>
> > > recall the name of the specific royal court where
>
> >
>
> > > Anthony was sent to spy, but Walsingham (the guy
>
> >
>
> > > never slept) was fanatical about sending particular
>
> >
>
> > > agents to particular royal Courts. After his death
>
> > > Walsingham was found to have kept notebooks which
>
> > > kept track of every English spy.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 3:42:05 AM6/6/13
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:50:15 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > Hold on, Art thinks that the gaps in the above (caused by Google, not me)
>
> > indicates some conspiracy to get him. I think Art needs to get more sleep.
>
> > >
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> >
>
> > > THERE!
>
> >
>
> > > Uhhhhh, it keeps popping apart . . . this is a Google problem,
>
> > > I have nothing to do with it, and of course there's no way
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> > > to reassure Art.
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> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
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> > > I don't know why that's separating but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
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> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
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> >
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> > > > Walsingham was fanatical about keeping records,
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> > > > his library was piled with notebooks. I would
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> > > > characterize Walsingham as a genius, one who
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> > > > loved his country with a passion.
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> >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
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> >
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> > > Well, generally, what European spies were operating in
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> > > England and which spies Walsingham had sent to
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> > > the Continent. I wish we had some portraits of
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> > > Walsingham, he was a very good looking man and
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> > > a genius in terms of his loyalty to England and his
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> > > Queen. The James Bond movies swiped Walsingham's
>
> > > number, 007.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 5:46:05 AM6/6/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > OK, Art, I fixed it.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 6, 2013, 5:47:58 AM6/6/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > Well, if it pops apart again, I'm not going to fix it, how much does
>
> > a millimeter mean?

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 7, 2013, 1:15:12 AM6/7/13
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:50:15 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >
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> > This is about my tenth try to get the damn thing to hold still, I'm not
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> > in the mood to please Art at the moment, if he want's to fix it he can
>
> > give it a try.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:36:42 AM6/9/13
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neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:38:34 AM6/9/13
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:50:15 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:41:35 AM6/9/13
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neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 10, 2013, 2:27:38 AM6/10/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > By the way, there is something ominous in Art's appeal to me to
>
> > close the gaps between "neon" and "gmail.com. Art and I guess
>
> > Robin (I was asleep at the time) paid me a visit. I now know what
>
> > Art was up to and it really stinks.
>
> >
>
> >
>

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 10, 2013, 2:33:26 AM6/10/13
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On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:43:07 PM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 4:14:29 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I finally figured out what Art was up to. I'm an idiot. I've been
>
> > used.
>

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 10, 2013, 2:35:47 AM6/10/13
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On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:30:14 AM UTC-7,
>
>

David L. Webb

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Jun 10, 2013, 3:31:08 PM6/10/13
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In article <6a25e6e4-a794-46ae...@googlegroups.com>,
Huh? What was Art "up to"? Elizabeth's paranoia seems to have
reached an unprecedented level.

David L. Webb

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Jun 11, 2013, 3:02:51 PM6/11/13
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In article <8ff763ca-717c-4a60...@googlegroups.com>,
"neon...@gmail.com" <neon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:43:07 PM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 4:14:29 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I finally figured out what Art was up to.

What were you "up to", Art? What is Elizabeth going on about now?

> > > I'm an idiot.

Dave Kathman, Peter Groves, and others have already said
substantially the same thing, so this isn't newsworthy:

<http://tinyurl.com/y8qkbej>
<http://tinyurl.com/6ckqgug>
<http://tinyurl.com/5s696gr>
<http://tinyurl.com/6fpgvnd>
<http://tinyurl.com/6fu54ra>
<http://tinyurl.com/6bg394g>

> > > I've been
> > > used.

"Used" rather than "abused"? Perhaps that's a sign of incremental
progress. I hope so.

marco

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Jun 11, 2013, 3:34:38 PM6/11/13
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neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 12, 2013, 2:33:40 AM6/12/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > THERE!
>
> >A follow up to Art's request that I stop and fix the gaps in
>
> > neonp...@gmail.com, it turns out that Art was preparing
>
> > to use his new Google Glass i-pad in HLAS, so once again
>
> > I was Art's stooge. And by the way my aunt was sitting at
>
> > this antique oak desk, she saw Art's new plaything and
>
> > nearly had an episode, the posters in this newsgroup are
>
> > unconscionable.
>
> > Ohmygod, I was working for Art. That's not going to happen again.
>
> > Big snip of my embarassment at my own naiivite.

marco

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:58:00 AM6/12/13
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Elizabeth - aka Art

Art - aka Elizabeth

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2013, 1:33:27 AM6/13/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
>
> > NOTE TO HLAS: Art suckered me into "fixing" my name above
>
> > and I was happy to do so, but Art's actual aim was to inevitably
>
> > to test his $1500 Google Glass laptop. Ok, I feel like a fool,
>
> > I've lost all regard for Art, he's a user.
>
> > THERE!
>
> > See how stupid I was ? Take care that Art doesn't
>
> > manipulate you as he manipulated me.
>
> > Yes, here's another favor I was doing for Art while he was doing me.
>
> > I foolishly wrote: I have to stop and fix the neonprose @ gmail.com
>
> > above, Art's problem was that I had to squeeze my gmail name together
>
> > or he couldn't use his new Google Glass tablet inside my Dell monitor.
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> > I'm really too damn nice. Art, of course, doesn't have that problem,
>
> > he'll screw anybody.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > > Uhhh, that's the kind of information you would likely
>
> > > find in the DNB (Dictionary of National Biography).

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2013, 1:39:38 AM6/13/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> What ever Sir Francis Walsingham procured
>
> I suppose. Walsingham is probably the most
>
> secretive spymaster in English history, we
>
> need to know more about this English hero.
>
> marc

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2013, 1:42:25 AM6/13/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> :
>
> > Please note: I'm an idiot, I got suckered by Art, and got suckered
>
> > more than once in one day. Well, it's only made me like Art all
>
> > the less, live and learn eh?
>
> > THERE!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neonprose @ gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthes (the son of the
>
> >
>
> > > Archbishop of the Church of England), Bacon's
>
> >
>
> > > brother Anthony was sent to eastern Europe, I can't
>
> >
>
> > > recall the name of the specific royal court where
>
> >
>
> > > Anthony was sent to spy, but Walsingham (the guy
>
> >
>
> > > never slept) was fanatical about sending particular
>
> >
>
> > > agents to particular royal Courts.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > marc
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>

marco

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Jun 13, 2013, 1:48:59 AM6/13/13
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Art, aka Elizabeth

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 4:35:56 AM6/14/13
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On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:30:14 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I'm an idiot, ask Art.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 4:37:09 AM6/14/13
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On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > Ask ARt, don't ask me, Art will tell you I'm an
>
> > idiot, I'm easy, I'm stupid, I'm gullible.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:00:52 PM6/14/13
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:50:15 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > I admit to being gullible, easily taken in, here's a demonstration of
>
> > my naiivate.
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > THERE!
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I don't know why that's separating but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Archbishop of the Church of England), Bacon's
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > brother Anthony was sent to eastern Europe, I can't
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > recall the name of the specific royal court where
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Anthony was sent to spy, but Walsingham (the guy
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > never slept) was fanatical about sending particular
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > agents to particular royal Courts.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 15, 2013, 10:37:22 PM6/15/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>>
> > Please note: I'm an idiot. Art used his new google glass lap top
>
> > to trick me into connecting "neon...@gmai.com" overe and
>
> > overe thus eliminating the gaps so that Art can use his new lap
>
> top in HLAS. I've already received a long email from google, it
>
> > doesn't seem to resolve the problem . . .
>
> > but I'm so pissed that ARt actually succeded in invading bedroom
>
> > and probably spewed radioactivity
>
> > all over the top of my antique oak desk, I'm not giving up,
>
> > I'll be flooding Google with gmails until they come to realize
>
> > that they've MADE AN INVASIVE PRODUCT and they need to
>
> > start taking the 8,000 Google Glass laptops back, I think the damn
>
> > things are radioactive, it was like the fourth of July on my
>
> > desk top.
>
> >
>

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2013, 3:15:18 AM6/16/13
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On Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:39:51 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > Huh, are you reading my mind? I was just writing a post
>
> >
>
> > on the Elizabethan "James Bond," Sir Francis Walsingham.
>
> >
>
> > Bacon's somewhat older brother Anthony Bacon was
>
> >
>
> > one of the first young men to be used to penetrate
>
> >
>
> > the Courts of Europe to gather information and
>
> >
>
> > send it back to England via Walsingham's agents.
>
> >
>
> > Coincidently, I bumped into the Wikipedia article
>
> >
>
> > on Sir Francis Walsingham, I have to commend it
>
> >
>
> > to anyone in HLAS who is interested in the build-
>
> >
>
> > up to the Armada (I'm interested) during which
>
> >
>
> > time Walsingham (a handsome man by the way)
>
> >
>
> > took advantage of kids like Francis Bacon, putting
>
> >
>
> > them in the Courts of Europe, Bacon spending
>
> >
>
> > much time in France, undercover, writing with the
>
> >
>
> > last of the Pleiades poets founded by the late
>
> >
>
> > Pierre Ronsard. Bacon was at the Court of France
>
> >
>
> > for at least three years with excursions to
>
> >
>
> > Spain and Italy.
>
> >
>
> > Elizabeth
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > marc

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2013, 3:27:44 AM6/16/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7,
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7,
>
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > OH BOY, there's a fine example of how easy I am to manipulate, of course
>
> > Art was the manipulator, that went on for some time, I was always having
>
> > to paste neonp...@gmail.com to satisfy Neuendorffer's aims to take
>
> > over my monitor, not to speak of my antique oak desk, I kept having to
>
> > wipe these tiny points of light off the desktop, I hope I don't have to sue
>
> > Neuendorffer but according to a lot of Google articles, there's going to
>
> > be a lot of law suits.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > THERE! <--- See how gullible I am?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > > Yes, I'm a moron, a naif, a dumbkof, a nitwit. Art has taken advantage
>
> > > of me, I can't believe that I was running around doing his bidding.
>
> > > If Art ever tries to get into my desktop or my bedroom I've got my
>
> > > camera ready. And where is David Webb? Did he take my advice
>
> > > and relocate to Tennesee? At the rate Art is taking advantage, it's
>
> > > probably the only way to get away from Art.
>
> > > snip of my naive attempt to make Art happy, never again!
>
> >

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2013, 4:48:21 AM6/16/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> Sir Francis Walsingham kept a big leather bound
>
> book which he used to keep track of his spies
>
> both in England and on the Continent. Walsingham
>
> is right up there with the most eminent Elizabethans,
>
> he was a magnificent naval strategist, he kept the
>
> Armada at bay.
>
> marc
>
> Now marc, that's the kind of query that I like to
>
> answer.

neon...@gmail.com

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neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2013, 6:53:15 AM6/16/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
>
>
> marc

>See my post below. The Queen didn't select Sir Francis Walsingham,
>
> Walsingham volunteered. Walsingham has the reputation of being
>
> the most secretive agent in England's history, he kept these huge
>
> leather volumes of blank paper which he would go over night after night,
>
> making sure that on the maps of Continental Europe his young agents
>
> had been well-placed, usually placed at some royal Court although
>
> now that I think of it Walsingham did not put his young agents at the
>
> Court of Ferdinand and Isabella, that would have been very dangerous.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2013, 6:55:00 AM6/16/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
>
>
> marc

All right, marco, I've had it with your screwing up my posts.

I didn't want to leave this page but apparently that's my
>
> only option.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:08:00 AM6/17/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> That is an interesting question, are we talking about
>
> the era of the Spanish Armada? If so, the Queene's
>
> 007, Sir Francis Walsingham, kept perfect notes on
>
> his young spies, notes bound up in a big brown leather
>
> book, that's on the record. Walsingham had great grasp
>
> of the machinations of the Spanish, also recorded
>
> in Walsingham's book. Spies were located on
>
> both sides of the English Channel with spy glasses
>
> in advance of the sailing of the Armada. Walsingham
>
> was a beautiful man, I think the BBC did a tv movie
>
> about Walsingham ca the late 1980s. It would be
>
> interesting to know which British museum or library
>
> holds Walsingham's book of spies.
>
> marc

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:17:13 AM6/17/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > OH WONDERFUL, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF MY GULLIBILITY . . . .
>
> > THERE!
>
> > I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ALTERING neonprose....@gmail to make Art
>
> > happy, only to discover that Art is never happy, he's more like a
>
> > ferret (we have wild ferrets up here) lurking in the branches of
>
> > the red hemlock trees, hoping to bite you with their needle like
>
> > teeth, the ferrets will leap from branch to branch, and occasionally
>
> > drop to the ground, missing the branch, down below you'll find
>
> > the non-athletic ferrets.
>
> >
>
> > I'm so gullible, I've always been naiive.
>
> > Hello, stupid, you're going to regret doing art's bidding (if only
>
> > we could reverse time).
>
> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neonprose @ gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthes (the son of the

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:19:17 AM6/17/13
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On Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:50:15 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > Note to HLASers, I'm gullible, I'm naive, I even let fools like
>
> > Art take advantage me, here's exhibit B:
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > THERE!
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I don't know why that's separating but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthews (the son of the

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2013, 3:25:13 AM6/18/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:32:23 AM UTC-7, marco wrote:
> I believe I read, that some records were kept
>
> by the spy network of Queen Elizabeth,
>
> and if so, what sorts of records exist?
>
>
>
> marc

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 19, 2013, 12:48:30 AM6/19/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >I MAY BE THE MOST GULLIBLE HUMAN ON EARTH, ART CONNED ME
>
> > > INTO MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO INVADE MY HOUSE FOR GODSAKE,
>
> > > BY USING A COMPLETELY UNTESTED PRODUCT FROM GOOGLE INC,
>
> > > THE GOOGLE GLASS IPAD, THAT THING IS RADIOACTIVE IN MY OPINION,
.
> > > ART NEEDS TO WATCH OUT FOR HIS TESTES, HIS GONADS OR WHATEVR
>
> > > THEY CALL IT, BECAUSE SOME SCIENTISTS ARE ALREADY SPECULATING
>
> > > ON WHETHER THEY'LL BE AN OUTBREAK OF CANCER FROM USING THE
>
> > > GOOGLE GLASS IPAD. I'M WORRIED ABOUT HAVING INHALED WHEN
>
> > > ART'S MOVIE APPEARED ON MY MONITOR LITERALLY OUT OF THE BLUE.
> >
>
> > > THERE!
>
> >
>
> > > YES, THERE! THAT'S HOW DAMN GULLIBLE I AM!
>
> >
>
> > > I'LL JUST LEAVE IT HERE AS A MONUMENT TO MY GULLIBILITY.
> >
>
> > > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neon...@gmail.com above,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I don't know why that's happening but I don't want Art to have a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > coronary. Gimme a minute here.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > WELL, her spy master was the handsome and
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > brilliant Sir Francis Walsingham, probably a genius,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > he had a lot to do with the British surviving the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Spanish Armada. He planted spies in every major
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > city in Europe, he even recruited kids like Bacon,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Bacon's best friend Sir Tobie Matthes (the son of the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Archbishop of the Church of England), Bacon's
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > brother Anthony was sent to eastern Europe, I can't
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > recall the name of the specific royal court where
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Anthony was sent to spy, but Walsingham (the guy
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > never slept) was fanatical about sending particular
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > agents to particular royal Courts.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > marc
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Elizabeth writes: See my post below. I've found Walsingham
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > so interesting, I'm going to continue posting on his role
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > in defeating the Spanish Armada, not a small accomplishment.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> ART. IF THE neonprose @ gmail.com happens again,
>
> >
>
> > > lemme know and I will go in and fix it. Sorry about that.

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:35:46 AM6/20/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > MY note, Art suckered me into "fixing" the gaps between neon and
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> > the ampersand and I fell for it, thinking that Art was always a kindly
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> > guy (am I overee that? ABSOLUTELY). WHAT ART WAS UP TO WAS
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> > that he couldn't insert his DANGEROUS Google Glass I pad into
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> > my screen unless I did what he asked. I'm so embarassed I'm
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> > butting out of this post, Art can live with the guilt, although
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> > I don't think Art experiences guilt, assuming himself to be
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> > superior and therefore all his demands are proper.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Correction: I have to stop and fix the neonprose @ gmail.com above,

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:37:57 AM6/20/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I swear to God, no more favors for Art!
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> Art is on PERMANENT IGNORE.

marco

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Jun 20, 2013, 2:08:09 AM6/20/13
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Elizabeth, aka Art

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Jun 22, 2013, 8:24:41 PM6/22/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
>

neon...@gmail.com

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Jun 22, 2013, 8:26:22 PM6/22/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:40:05 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neonprose @ gmail.com wrote:
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> ART. IF THE neonprose @ gmail.com happens again,
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> >
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> > > lemme know and I will NEVER FALL FOR IT AGAIN.

marco

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Jun 22, 2013, 11:27:15 PM6/22/13
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when is Lizzie going to learn?

Art N

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Jun 28, 2013, 8:09:44 PM6/28/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:35:35 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:22:45 AM UTC-7, neon...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >
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> > THERE!
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> >
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> > NOTE: I ADMIT TO BEING A NAIF, A NITWIT, TOO GULLIBLE
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> > FOR MY OWN GOOD. ART HAD ME DOING HIS DIRTY WORK,
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> > SO HE COULD STICK HIS GOOGLE GLASS IPAD IN MY FACE.
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> > s i g h.
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