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Terry Ross

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Sep 14, 2004, 4:53:53 PM9/14/04
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Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun) with the lists of accidental words
that can be found in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
Shakespeare's *Sonnets* that I thought his own words should be subject to
the same treatment. Here are some of the responses he gives in his
profile at the Shakespeare [i.e., Oxford] Fellowship site:

Name: Arthur C. Neuendorffer

Occupation: Physicist

Hobbies: Authorship issue, hiking

Location: Maryland, P.G.

Bio: I am a NOAA physicist who works primarily on measuring ozone.
I'm married with 3 grown children & one cocker spaniel.

Art's full profile may be found here:
http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?User=142

I took the letters of Art's words and placed them into a series of
Rollett-like arrays (I expanded his "3" to "three", and his "&" to "and").
Here, for example, is the 6-column array:

ARTHUR
CNEUEN
DORFFE
RPHYSI
CISTAU
THORSH
IPISSU
EHIKIN
GMARYL
ANDPGI
AMANOA
APHYSI
CISTWH
OWORKS
PRIMAR
ILYONM
EASURI
NGOZON
EIMMAR
RIEDWI
THTHRE
EGROWN
CHILDR
ENANDO
NECOCK
ERSPAN
IEL

It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
names in this array. For example, in the first column, reading down, one
finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:

O WORKS
P RIMAR
I LYONM
E ASURI

Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
this year. Coincidence? Or perhaps something deeper is at work. If we
read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
(as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:

AP H YSI
CI S TWH
OW O RKS
PR I MAR

Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
-- reading upwards in the same column:

EH I KIN
GM A RYL
AN D PGI
AM A NOA
AP H YSI
CI S TWH

The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA," "RENE," and
"OSHA." What could Art have meant by this?

The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html

It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html

I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html

I leave it to Art to explain why he hid so many words and names in his
profile.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Terry Ross Visit the SHAKESPEARE AUTHORSHIP home page
http://ShakespeareAuthorship.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


Art Neuendorffer

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 -----------------------------------------------------------
                           Sonnet FOUR

Nature's bequest gives nothing but doth lend,
And being *FRANK* she lends to those are *FREE*.
----------------------------------------------------------
 "E.O." & "FREE" [ = "FRANCIS"]
 "E.O." &  ___________"FEEBLE":
---------------------------------------------------
 ----------            T {O}.
---------            TH [E].
  ------            ONLI [E].
                 BEGETTE [R].
---------             O [F].
.
____                    T  {O}
__--                  T H  [E]
__-                   O N  [L]
____                  I E  [B]
__--                  E G  [E]
__---                 T T  [E]
__                    R O  [F
 
--------------------------------------------------
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/wds1.html 

     6-letter "Words" that Terry Ross
found in arrays based on the first 144 letters
of the dedication to Shakespeare's Sonnets.

      FEEBLE0302u

      ENVRES:  1004u
      ENDVES:  1208d
      TIBIAL:    1209u
      FLEDGE:  2705u
-------------------------------------------------------
         probability of "FEEBLE"
  with a skip of 3 (or less): 1 / 118,000 

  = 6*[(23*22*2*6*21)/(143*142*141*140*139)]
 
        23 E's 22 E's 2 B's 6 L's 21 E's (left)
------------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> with the lists of accidental words that can be found
> in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> Shakespeare's *Sonnets*
---------------------------------------------------
                 Great fun, Terry!
 
  It's what smart people like to do: create & solve puzzles.
   (It's certainly what Francis Bacon liked to do.)
 
       Smart people certainly don't like to
    sue their neighbors for shillings & pence.
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote
---------------------------------------------------
   These 159 letters allows about 50% more possibilities
 than Rollett's 144 letters; however, the "real cheat"
 in what you are doing is that you don't limit yourself
 to solutions that Shake-speare would have understand
 (, e.g., "FEEBLE, NAILE & SHENE").
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
> It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
> names in this array.  For example, in the first column, reading down, one
> finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:
>
>   O WORKS
>   P RIMAR
>   I LYONM
>   E ASURI
>
> Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
> this year.  Coincidence? 
 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
> Or perhaps something deeper is at work.  If we
> read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
> (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
>   OW O RKS
>   PR I MAR
>
> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
> -- reading upwards in the same column:
>
>   EH I KIN
>   GM A RYL
>   AN D PGI
>   AM A NOA
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.hillel.org/Hillel/NewHille.nsf/0/ee2cb0cea8a5b3508525693f00557a2f?OpenDocument
 
<<What does "I am El Shadai" (Genesis 35:11) mean?
 [It means,] "I am He who said to the world, 'Enough!' ">>
 
      Sure doen't sound like me, Terry; but I'll concede
         that this one is, at least, interesting. ;-)
---------------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":

> The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
>   "RENE," and  "OSHA."  What could Art have meant by this?
 
   Puerperal fEVER or (METRIA) is an infection
    of the uterus usually contracted during
      or right after the DEliVERy of the child. 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":

> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
>
> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
>
> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
>
> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> so many words and names in his profile.
------------------------------------------------------
  And I'll leave it to Terry why to explain why
 he doesn't create a link to his actual study
 of Rollett's Sonnets dedication...which,
 unlike Neufer's bio, doesn't make any real sense
  as plane text (with or without the punctuation.)
 
 
   (I'll also leave it to Terry why to explain
  why he should go to all that effort on my bio.)
------------------------------------------------------
I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
 (for reasons stated above) except to note that
 there are no four letter words independently repeated
 in any of the Neufer arrays.
 
 This fact makes the repeated "NILE" in the Rollett array
               that much more interesting:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
__       TOTHEO    [N] li       _     <E B E  (G)  ____ ETTERO
__       FTHESE__- [I] nS       -     U<I>N  (G)  ____ SONNET
__       SMrWha_-  [L] LH  _   [a]    P <P> I__ [N] __ESSEA
__       NDthat____[E] T __  [E|r] -  N <I> T__ [I] E<P>ROM
__       ISEDB  Y O u   ____ [R|e]    V <E> R   [L]<I> VING
       <P>OEtW  I s h  _____ [E|t] _  H [T] H__ [E]   WELLW
       <I>ShIN-(G)a _____  [d V e]    N [T] u ______ ReRINS
       <E>tTIN (G)fort----_______     H [T] t
---------------------------------------------------------------
 
But there is at least one 5 letter (Neufer array) word
         that Shakespeare would recognize:
 
                  HERNE:0303u
 
____             A R T
____             H U R
____             C N E
____             U-E N
____             D O R
____             F_F E
____             R-P H
____             Y S_I
____             C-I_S T
 
                It's a mystery. ;-)
----------------------------------------------------------
           "Speak I like HERNE the hunter?"
------------------------------------------------------------
        The Merry Wives of Windsor  Act 4, Scene 4
 
MISTRESS PAGE:
      There is an old tale goes that HERNE the hunter,
        Sometime a keeper here in Windsor forest,
        Doth all the winter-time, at still midnight,
        Walk round about an oak, with great ragg'd horns;
        And there he blasts the tree and takes the cattle
        And makes milch-kine yield blood and shakes a chain
        In a most hideous and dreadful manner:
        You have heard of such a spirit, and well you know
        The superstitious idle-headed eld
        RECEIVED and did DELIVER to our age
        This tale of HERNE the hunter for a TRUTH.
 
                Act 5, Scene 5
 
FALSTAFF   Divide me like a bribe buck, each a haunch: I will
        keep my sides to myself, my shoulders for the fellow
        of this walk, and my horns I bequeath your husbands.
        Am I a woodman, ha? Speak I like HERNE the hunter?
        Why, now is Cupid a child of conscience; he makes
        restitution. As I am a TRUE spirit, welcome!
 

MISTRESS QUICKLY        About, about;
        Search Windsor Castle, elves, within and out:
        Strew good luck, ouphes, on EVERy sacred room:
        That it may stand till the perpetual doom,
        In state as wholesome as in state 'tis fit,
        Worthy the owner, and the owner it.
        The sEVERal chairs of order look you scour
        With juice of balm and EVERy precious flower:
        Each fair instalment, coat, and SEVERal crest,
        With loyal blazon, EVERmore be blest!
        And nightly, meadow-fairies, look you sing,
        Like to the Garter's compass, in a ring:
        The expressure that it bears, green let it be,
        More fertile-fresh than all the field to see;
        And 'Honi soit qui mal y pense' write
        In emerald tufts, flowers purple, blue and white;
        Let sapphire, pearl and rich embroidery,
        Buckled below fair knighthood's bending knee:
        Fairies use flowers for their charactery.
        Away; disperse: but till 'tis one o'clock,
        Our dance of custom round about the oak
        Of HERNE the hunter, let us not forget.
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                The Stag of Windsor
    http://www.dragoncourt.org/ringasset/ch1_04.asp
 
<<Before Elizabeth was crowned by Bishops, she underwent coronation by
the people. Attending the ceremony were a host of "Wild Forest Dwellers"
who'd  come to bless the new Queen. Later in her reign she attended a
curious ceremony in the Forest of Windsor Great Park. Seated before a
pavilion in a clearing one Spring morning Queen Elizabeth, with her
complicity and consent presided over one of the most ancient druidic and
shamanic ceremonies in Eurasian culture. A ceremony that harkened back
to the time when much of Britain and the continent was covered by
massive forests, namely the trial and accession of the King of the
Caille Daouine, the Lord of the Forest.
 
The King of the Forest is the Stag of Nine Tines. In the lays of Robin
Hood Robin himself is revealed as the Green Stag and the Totem is
repreatedly interwoven into the fabric of ancient northern Kingship. In
pre-christian and non-christian Europe, to claim the Kingship of the
vast greenwood, the pretender was obliged to ride and kill whilst
mounted, the great Stag of Nine Tines. This task was possibly one of the
most dangerous stunts anyone could pull. During the Spring Rut the Stag
is vicious, belligerent and half mad with lust and territorial rage.
Getting anywhere near him was a feat of courage in 'itself. However, to
be rightly invested with the TRUE kingship of the Forest Peoples, it was
necessary first to depose the reigning monarch, the Great Stag.
 
On the spring Morning in question one of Elizabeth's favourites, the
Queen's Chamberlain Edward de Vere charged into the self same clearing
mounted upon the great Stag of Windsor Forest. Its throat had been cut
by the rider and he and the Stag came to an abrupt halt at the Queen's
feet. Edward de Vere was the premier Count of England and the senior
Peer of the Realm. His lineage was far superior to that of Elizabeth, he
descended from the the House of Anjou, from Melusine and the ancient
Pictish and Danann druid Kings of Gaul, Albany and Eire. A necromancer,
anti-christian and libertine, Edward had contempt for the Tudors. He was
student of Dr John Dee and it is still insisted that Edward was the TRUE
William Shakespeare, whose work is teaming with stories of Elphame and
Magic. Shakespeares Oberon is Alberic whose name literally means Elf
King, whilst his Titania is Diana, whose Druidic, woad coloured Boar
wears her crescent Moon upon its flank in the crest of the ancient
family of Vere. Three of Edward's recent ancestors had borne the name
Alberic and the first of them in England had adopted also the falling
star of LUCIFER as a badge to denote, as Verily Anderson expresses it,
  the Vere's "near divinity" as descendants of the line of priest
kingship that originated with the first Elf King - Samael or LUCIFER.>>
------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer

David L. Webb

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In article <Pine.GSO.4.61.0409141235190.12459@mail>,
Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:

This post is off to a VERy auspicious stART from Art's point of view.
Indeed, "sandbox for Art" is an anagram of

"A.N. (Art) Oxford B.S."

as well as

"Ban Art's Oxford."

These anagrams enjoy INPNC scores of 11/13 and 10/13, respectively.

> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)

What a terrifying thought! I always assumed that Art was having fun
(indeed, Art is as easily amused as he is amusing).

> with the lists of accidental words
> that can be found in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> Shakespeare's *Sonnets* that I thought his own words should be subject to
> the same treatment. Here are some of the responses he gives in his
> profile at the Shakespeare [i.e., Oxford] Fellowship site:
>
> Name: Arthur C. Neuendorffer
>
> Occupation: Physicist
>
> Hobbies: Authorship issue, hiking
>
> Location: Maryland, P.G.
>
> Bio: I am a NOAA physicist who works primarily on measuring ozone.

By breathing it? That might explain a good deal.

> I'm married with 3 grown children & one cocker spaniel.

What's the dog's name, Art? Samuel Spaniel?

Art has logged only *947* posts to the Shakespeare Fellowship?!
Those poor Fellowship habitues are getting shortchanged! Why pay good
money for Fellowship dues when one can read Art for free at h.l.a.s.?

Art does not believe in coincidences. See his Peter Gay posts.
Indeed -- significantly -- one finds the word "Gay" reading downward in
the first column of the width-two array.

> Or perhaps something deeper is at work. If we
> read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
> (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
>
> AP H YSI
> CI S TWH
> OW O RKS
> PR I MAR
>
> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
> -- reading upwards in the same column:
>
> EH I KIN
> GM A RYL
> AN D PGI
> AM A NOA
> AP H YSI
> CI S TWH
>
> The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA," "RENE," and
> "OSHA." What could Art have meant by this?

"OSHA" read backwards is "Ah, so!" That's surely comparable to Art's
prize discoVERy of "Aha".

> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
>
> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
>
> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
>
> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid so many words and names in his
> profile.

One also finds the word "King." Is Art intimating that he, rather
than Oxford, is the lost Tudor Heir? One can also anagram the first
word of that phrase....

Reading down the third column of the width-five array, one finds the
phrase "My Anna." Is Art's wife named Anna? Or are there perhaps *two*
marriage records in Art's name?? (Is Anna's surname Whateley?)
Inquiring minds want to know!

One can find the word "game" (reading upwards in the 39-width array),
a pretty fair indication of what Art is up to.

But I can see that this material merits much closer study. Thanks
for getting the ball rolling, Terry.

Art Neuendorffer

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"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    This post is off to a VERy auspicious stART from Art's
>  point of view.   Indeed, "sandbox for Art" is an anagram of
>
>                "A.N. (Art) Oxford B.S."
>
> as well as
>
>                 "Ban Art's Oxford."
>
> These anagrams enjoy INPNC scores of 11/13 and 10/13, respectively.
-----------------------------------------------------
       Terry's use of the letter sequence: "...ox for..."
                 was clearly intentional, IMO.
 
       Therefore, you simply prove my point about INPNC.
-----------------------------------------------------
>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:

> > Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun) 
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    What a terrifying thought!  I always assumed that Art was
> having fun (indeed, Art is as easily amused as he is amusing).
-----------------------------------------------------
    I said I was having fun. . . as Bacon surely did
     when he invented all this stuff in the first place.
 -----------------------------------------------------
>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> > with the lists of accidental words
> > that can be found in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> > Shakespeare's *Sonnets* that I thought his own words should be subject
> >  to the same treatment.  Here are some of the responses he gives in his
> >  profile at the Shakespeare [i.e., Oxford] Fellowship site:
> >
> >   Name: Arthur C. Neuendorffer
> >
> >   Occupation: Physicist
> >
> >   Hobbies: Authorship issue, hiking
> >
> >   Location: Maryland, P.G.
> >
> >   Bio: I am a NOAA physicist who works primarily on measuring ozone.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    By breathing it?
 
       Remote infrared sensing from satellite.
 
>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >        I'm married with 3 grown children & one cocker spaniel.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    What's the dog's name, Art?
 
                Her name is Pepper.
 
>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    Art has logged only *947* posts to the Shakespeare Fellowship?! 
> Those poor Fellowship habitues are getting shortchanged!  Why pay good
> money for Fellowship dues when one can read Art for free at h.l.a.s.?
 
       Not everyone can handle all the name calling at h.l.a.s.
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
   
>    Art does not believe in coincidences.
 
   Art does not dismiss all remarkable "coincidences" out of hand.
 
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>  See his Peter Gay posts. 
> Indeed -- significantly -- one finds the word "Gay" reading
> downward in the first column of the width-two array.
 
        Random 3 letter words are so common,
        Terry didn't even bother to write them
>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
 
> > Or perhaps something deeper is at work.  If we
> > read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
> > (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> > that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
> >
> >   AP H YSI
> >   CI S TWH
> >   OW O RKS
> >   PR I MAR
> >
> > Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" --
> >  one of God's names -- reading upwards in the same column:
> >
> >   EH I KIN
> >   GM A RYL
> >   AN D PGI
> >   AM A NOA
> >   AP H YSI
> >   CI S TWH
> >
> > The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
> >  "RENE," and "OSHA".  What could Art have meant by this?
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    "OSHA" read backwards is "Ah, so!"
----------------------------------------
            Man in the WALL

<<At a construction site for a new apartment block in London, a 500 year old skeleton is unearthed in a suit of armour.
The owner of the new Packer Towers is worried potential buyers might be put off by a ghost, so Charlie Chan helps out. Since the corpse had been shot, it seems the death must have been more recent - in fact it dates back 17 years when the building was Torrance Mansions, which had been bombed during a fancy dress party in the Blitz. The owner, Torrance is identified as the corpse. Most of those at the party that night had been killed, but Mrs Torrance and her son Gerald (Terence Alexander) and his future wife Virginia survived. So too did Torrance's business partner, Christopher Morgan, who did have both his legs broken in the bombing whilst he was playing billiards. As Torrance died in the adjacent room, the library, and as he inherited the business, he is, says No 1 Son, the obvious suspect.
Charlie meets a wall of silence as he probes the family. Separately, they all ask Charlie to call it off. Then Charlie learns a police inspector had attended the party - he was investigating the smuggling of British currency during the war, but when he bought it in the bomb, no further action had been taken on this. But whilst Inspector Duff lives up to his name and is duffer enough to be unable to sort the "jigsaw" out, Charlie exercises his oriental brain to solve the case. By taking a close look at the armour he proves that the bullet that pierced the armour came from a German bomber's machine gun.
Ah, so it wasn't murder at all realises the Duffer. But he too, like No 1 Son, is completely wrong, and it's left to Charlie to reveal all. ----------------------------------------

>  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
 
> > The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
> >
> > It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> > rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
> >
> > I have found hundreds of words and names that are
> > 4 or more letters long in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
> >
> > I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> >  so many words and names in his profile.

"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    Reading down the third column of the width-five array, one finds the
> phrase "My Anna."  Is Art's wife named Anna?  Or are there perhaps *two*
> marriage records in Art's name??  (Is Anna's surname Whateley?) 
> Inquiring minds want to know!
 
            Just leave Anna out of this, Dave!
"David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote

>    One also finds the word "King."  Is Art intimating that he, rather
> than Oxford, is the lost Tudor Heir?  One can also anagram
> the first word of that phrase....
>    One can find the word "game" (reading upwards in the
>  39-width array), a pretty fair indication of what Art is up to. 
------------------------------------------------------
I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
   (for reasons already stated) except to note that
 there are no four letter words independently repeated
         in any of the "Neufer arrays."
 
 This fact makes the repeated "NILE" in the Rollett array
               that much more interesting:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
__       TOTHEO    [N] li       _     <E B E  (G)  ____ ETTERO
__       FTHESE__- [I] nS       -     U<I>N  (G)  ____ SONNET
__       SMrWha_-  [L] LH  _   [a]    P <P> I__ [N] __ESSEA
__       NDthat____[E] T __  [E|r] -  N <I> T__ [I] E<P>ROM
__       ISEDB  Y O u   ____ [R|e]    V <E> R   [L]<I> VING
       <P>OEtW  I s h  _____ [E|t] _  H [T] H__ [E]   WELLW
       <I>ShIN-(G)a _____  [d V e]    N [T] u ______ ReRINS
       <E>tTIN (G)fort----_______     H [T] t
---------------------------------------------------------------
Art NeuenDuffer

Art Neuendorffer

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> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> with the lists of accidental words that can be found
> in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> Shakespeare's *Sonnets*
---------------------------------------------------
                 Great fun, Terry!
 
  It's what smart people like to do: create & solve puzzles.
   (It's certainly what Francis Bacon liked to do.)
 
       Smart people certainly don't like to
    sue their neighbors for shillings & pence.
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote
---------------------------------------------------
   These 159 letters allows about 50% more possibilities
 than Rollett's 144 letters; however, the "real cheat"
 in what you are doing is that you don't limit yourself
 to solutions that Shake-speare would have understood
    (, e.g., "FEEBLE, NAILE & SHENE").
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
> names in this array.  For example, in the first column, reading down, one
> finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:
>
>   O WORKS
>   P RIMAR
>   I LYONM
>   E ASURI
>
> Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
> this year.  Coincidence? 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
> Or perhaps something deeper is at work.  If we
> read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
> (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
>   OW O RKS
>   PR I MAR
>
> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
> -- reading upwards in the same column:
>
>   EH I KIN
>   GM A RYL
>   AN D PGI
>   AM A NOA
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.hillel.org/Hillel/NewHille.nsf/0/ee2cb0cea8a5b3508525693f00557a2f?OpenDocument
 
<<What does "I am El Shadai" (Genesis 35:11) mean?
 [It means,] "I am He who said to the world, 'Enough!' ">>
 
      Sure doen't sound like me, Terry; but I'll concede
         that this one is, at least, interesting. ;-)
---------------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
>   "RENE," and  "OSHA."  What could Art have meant by this?
   Puerperal fEVER or (METRIA) is an infection
    of the uterus usually contracted during
      or right after the DEliVERy of the child. 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
>
> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
>
> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
>
> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> so many words and names in his profile.
------------------------------------------------------
  And I'll leave it to Terry why to explain why
 he doesn't create a link to his own actual study
    of Rollett's Sonnets dedication...which,
 unlike Neufer's bio, doesn't make any real sense
  as plane text (with or without the punctuation.)
 
 
   (I'll also leave it to Terry why to explain
  why he should go to all that effort on my bio.)
------------------------------------------------------
I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
 (for reasons stated above) except to note that
 there are no four letter words independently repeated
 in any one of the Neufer arrays.
 
      This fact makes the repeated word "NILE"
    in a single Rollett array that much more interesting:
--------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
 
__       tOTHEo N L i E    BE G ETTERO
__       FTHESE I n S     UIN G SONNET
__       SMrwha L L  H  a PPI N ESSEA
__       NDTHat E  T  E r NIT I EPROM
__       ISEDB Y  O u R e Ver L IVING
__       POETw  I SH  E t HTh E WELLW
__       ISHIN G A  d V e NTu  ReRINS
__       EtTIN G      fortH    Tt
----------------------------------------------------
 
But there is at least one 5 letter (Neufer array) word
         that Shakespeare would recognize:
 
 
                  HERNE:0303u
 
____             A R T
____             H U R
____             C N E
____             U-E N
____             D O R
____             F_F E
____             R-P H
____             Y S_I
____             C-I_S T
 
 
Very nice, Terry, but....
 
it's neither a six letter word like:   FEEBLE0302u
 
   nor a five letter string:  ____     ESLEY:  1810d adjacent to
an associated four letter string:      IOTH:  1811u
-----------------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
__       tOTHEo N L i E    BE G ETTERO
__       FTHESE I n S     UIN G SONNET
__       SMrwha L L  H  a PPI N ESSEA
__       NDTHat E  T  E r NIT I EPROM
__       ISEDB Y  O u R e Ver L IVING
__       POETw  I SH  E t HTh E WELLW
__       ISHIN G A  d V e NTu  ReRINS
__       EtTIN G      fortH    Tt

Art Neuendorffer

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> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> with the lists of accidental words that can be found
> in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> Shakespeare's *Sonnets*
---------------------------------------------------
                 Great fun, Terry!
 
  It's what smart people like to do: create & solve puzzles.
   (It's certainly what Francis Bacon liked to do.)
 
       Smart people certainly don't like to
    sue their neighbors for shillings & pence.
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote
---------------------------------------------------
   These 159 letters allows about 50% more possibilities
 than Rollett's 144 letters; however, the "real cheat"
 in what you are doing is that you don't limit yourself
 to solutions that Shake-speare would have understood
    (, e.g., "FEEBLE, NAILE & SHENE").
---------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
> names in this array.  For example, in the first column, reading down, one
> finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:
>
>   O WORKS
>   P RIMAR
>   I LYONM
>   E ASURI
>
> Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
> this year.  Coincidence? 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
 
> Or perhaps something deeper is at work.  If we
> read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
> (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
 
    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
>   OW O RKS
>   PR I MAR
>
> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
> -- reading upwards in the same column:
>
>   EH I KIN
>   GM A RYL
>   AN D PGI
>   AM A NOA
>   AP H YSI
>   CI S TWH
---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.hillel.org/Hillel/NewHille.nsf/0/ee2cb0cea8a5b3508525693f00557a2f?OpenDocument
 
<<What does "I am El Shadai" (Genesis 35:11) mean?
 [It means,] "I am He who said to the world, 'Enough!' ">>
 
      Sure doen't sound like me, Terry; but I'll concede
         that this one is, at least, interesting. ;-)
---------------------------------------------------------
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
>   "RENE," and  "OSHA."  What could Art have meant by this?
   Puerperal fEVER or (METRIA) is an infection
    of the uterus usually contracted during
      or right after the DEliVERy of the child. 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
>
> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
>
> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
>
> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> so many words and names in his profile.
                        CRATYLUS by Plato

<<[SOCRATES to Hermogenes]: arete signifying in the 1st place
    ease of motion, then that the STREAM of the good soul is unimpeded,
           and has therefore the attribute of EVER FLOWING without
            let or hindrance, and is therefore called arete,
             or, more correctly, aeireite (EVER FLOWING)>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lgboyd/chapter5.htm

<<The de VERES were an ancient dynastic family seated at their ancestral
     village of VER (from which they took their name), near Bayeaux and
the River VIRE, in MANCHE on the Normandy coast of present-day northern
   France. The name of the town itself came from the "VER," a Norse word
    meaning "FISHDAM" that the Vikings had introduced into Normandy.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
   Making a random selection of letters surrounding the
 deVERE/arete pattern given:  13 N's, 14 I's, 6 L's, & 19 E's
      And ~2,900 possible placements for a bracketing NILE pair.

Chance of a NILE pair bracketing the deVERE/arete pattern ~ 1/100,000
---------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Cymbeline  Act 3, Scene 4

PISANIO What shall I need to draw my sword? the paper
         Hath cut her throat already. No, 'tis slander,
         Whose edge is sharper than the sword, whose tongue
         Outvenoms all the worms of NILE, whose breath
         Rides on the posting winds and doth belie
         All corners of the world: kings, queens and states,
         Maids, matrons, nay, the secrets of the grave
         This viperous slander enters. What cheer, madam?
------------------------------------------------------------------
          Antony and Cleopatra   Act 1, Scene 5

CLEOPATRA       O Charmian,
         Where think'st thou he is now? Stands he, or sits he?
         Or does he walk? or is he on his horse?
         O happy horse, to bear the weight of Antony!
         Do bravely, horse! for wot'st thou whom thou movest?
         The demi-Atlas of this earth, the arm
         And burgonet of men. He's speaking now,
         Or murmuring 'Where's my serpent of old NILE?'

                 Act 2, Scene 5

CLEOPATRA    Melt Egypt into NILE! and kindly creatures
         Turn all to serpents! Call the slave again:
         Though I am mad, I will not bite him: call.

                 Act 2, Scene 7

MARK ANTONY     [To OCTAVIUS CAESAR]
         Thus do they, sir: they take the flow o' the NILE
         By certain scales i' the pyramid; they know,
         By the height, the lowness, or the mean, if dearth
         Or foison follow: the higher Nilus swells,
         The more it promises: as it ebbs, the seedsman
         Upon the slime and ooze scatters his grain,
         And shortly comes to harvest.

                 Act 5, Scene 2

First Guard   This is an aspic's trail: and these fig-leaves
               Have slime upon them, such as the aspic leaves
               Upon the CAVES of NILE.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
<<St. Anthony found God on the abrupt & rocky banks of the NILE,
  where burning stones take possession of flowers before they bloom.
  Fleeing the agony of a corrupt and crumbling world, he sought in
  silence and poverty to hear the whispers of the divine presence,
to make the sand and flagstones flourish with spiritual flowers.>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
       St. Anthony died on Mount Kolzim, January 17, 356.
 
      <<On [January 17] in the age of Queen Elizabeth,
           a sick PIG would be led to the DUNG-HEAP
           and was not allowed to be slaughtered.>>
 
  <<John Chamberlain says in a letter of  January 17, 1599:
     "SPENCER our principall poet coming out of Ireland
         died at Westminster on Satterday last.">>  -- Terry Ross
-------------------------------------------------------------------
         Stratford Church Register marriage entry:
January 17, 1579:
   "William WILLSONNE and Anne HATHAWAY of Shotterye."
----------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------
However, there is at least one 5 letter (Neufer array) word
         that Shakespeare would recognize:
 
 
                  HERNE:0303u
 
____             A R T
____             H U R
____             C N E
____             U-E N
____             D O R
____             F_F E
____             R-P H
____             Y S_I
____             C-I_S T
 
 
Nice, Terry, but....
 
it's neither a six letter word like:   FEEBLE0302u
 
   nor a five letter string:  ____     ESLEY:  1810d adjacent to
an associated four letter string:      IOTH:  1811u
-----------------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
__       tOTHEo N L i E    BE G ETTERO
__       FTHESE I n S     UIN G SONNET
__       SMrwha L L  H  a PPI N ESSEA
__       NDTHat E  T  E r NIT I EPROM
__       ISEDB Y  O u R e Ver L IVING
__       POETw  I SH  E t HTh E WELLW
__       ISHIN G A  d V e NTu  ReRINS
__       EtTIN G      fortH    Tt
----------------------------------------------------------------------

David L. Webb

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In article <W_2dnb3ZVI2...@comcast.com>,
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>

(aneuendor...@comicass.nut) wrote:

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > This post is off to a VERy auspicious stART from Art's
> > point of view. Indeed, "sandbox for Art" is an anagram of
> >
> > "A.N. (Art) Oxford B.S."
> >
> > as well as
> >
> > "Ban Art's Oxford."
> >
> > These anagrams enjoy INPNC scores of 11/13 and 10/13, respectively.
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Terry's use of the letter sequence: "...ox for..."
> was clearly intentional, IMO.

Art's use of an ISP perilously close to "comicass.nut" was clearly

intentional, IMO.

> Therefore, you simply prove my point about INPNC.

Therefore you simply prove *my* point about the INPNC.

> -----------------------------------------------------
> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
>
> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > What a terrifying thought! I always assumed that Art was
> > having fun (indeed, Art is as easily amused as he is amusing).
> -----------------------------------------------------
> I said I was having fun. . . as Bacon surely did
> when he invented all this stuff in the first place.
> -----------------------------------------------------

You mean, *Bacon*, not Oxford, is responsible for all this crackpot
cryptography?! And here I thought that Bacon was *far* too competent a
cryptographer to stoop to asinine non-anagrams!

> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > with the lists of accidental words
> > > that can be found in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> > > Shakespeare's *Sonnets* that I thought his own words should be subject
> > > to the same treatment. Here are some of the responses he gives in his
> > > profile at the Shakespeare [i.e., Oxford] Fellowship site:
> > >
> > > Name: Arthur C. Neuendorffer
> > >
> > > Occupation: Physicist
> > >
> > > Hobbies: Authorship issue, hiking
> > >
> > > Location: Maryland, P.G.
> > >
> > > Bio: I am a NOAA physicist who works primarily on measuring ozone.

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > By breathing it?

> Remote infrared sensing from satellite.

Then I suspect that you're suffering from oxygen deprivation from too
much time spent on that satellite, Art.



> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > I'm married with 3 grown children & one cocker spaniel.

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > What's the dog's name, Art?

> Her name is Pepper.

But Samuel Spaniel would have been so much more appropriate for the
pet of an Elizabethan history crank! Is Pepper the one who finds your
"anagrams," Art?



> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > Art's full profile may be found here:
> > > http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?User=142

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > Art has logged only *947* posts to the Shakespeare Fellowship?!
> > Those poor Fellowship habitues are getting shortchanged! Why pay good
> > money for Fellowship dues when one can read Art for free at h.l.a.s.?

> Not everyone can handle all the name calling at h.l.a.s.

Perhaps Fellowship members are not being shortchanged: do you avoid
all your repetition in that forum? As a test case, how many times have
you posted "Agnes a gob" and its variants in the Fellowship forum, Art?

That's what I said, in part. Indeed, Art does not even dismiss *any*
of the *nonremarkable* coincidences. He just assumes (Elizabeth's
favorite word) that they are significant -- in fact, he doesn't even
bother to check them! Peter Gay, anyone?



> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > See his Peter Gay posts.
> > Indeed -- significantly -- one finds the word "Gay" reading
> > downward in the first column of the width-two array.

> Random 3 letter words are so common,
> Terry didn't even bother to write them

But "Gay" is a pertinent proper name -- just like VER!



> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > Or perhaps something deeper is at work. If we
> > > read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as
> > > equivalent
> > > (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
> > > that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
> > >
> > > AP H YSI
> > > CI S TWH
> > > OW O RKS
> > > PR I MAR
> > >
> > > Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" --
> > > one of God's names -- reading upwards in the same column:
> > >
> > > EH I KIN
> > > GM A RYL
> > > AN D PGI
> > > AM A NOA
> > > AP H YSI
> > > CI S TWH
> > >
> > > The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
> > > "RENE," and "OSHA". What could Art have meant by this?

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > "OSHA" read backwards is "Ah, so!"

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]


> > Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
>
> > > The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> > > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
> > >
> > > It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> > > rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> > > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
> > >
> > > I have found hundreds of words and names that are
> > > 4 or more letters long in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> > > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
> > >
> > > I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> > > so many words and names in his profile.

> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > Reading down the third column of the width-five array, one finds the
> > phrase "My Anna." Is Art's wife named Anna? Or are there perhaps *two*
> > marriage records in Art's name?? (Is Anna's surname Whateley?)
> > Inquiring minds want to know!

> Just leave Anna out of this, Dave!

*Is* your wife's name Anna, Art? Inquiring minds want to know! Does
your wife by any chance know a William Wilson?



> "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
>
> > One also finds the word "King." Is Art intimating that he, rather
> > than Oxford, is the lost Tudor Heir? One can also anagram
> > the first word of that phrase....
>
> > One can find the word "game" (reading upwards in the
> > 39-width array), a pretty fair indication of what Art is up to.
> ------------------------------------------------------
> I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
> (for reasons already stated) except to note that
> there are no four letter words independently repeated
> in any of the "Neufer arrays."
>
> This fact makes the repeated "NILE" in the Rollett array
> that much more interesting:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> <= 19 =>
>

> TOTHEO [N] li <E B E (G) ETTERO
> FTHESE - [I] nS - U<I>N (G) SONNET
> SMrWha - [L] LH [a] P <P> I [N] ESSEA
> NDthat [E] T [E|r] - N <I> T [I] E<P>ROM
> ISEDB Y O u [R|e] V <E> R [L]<I> VING
> <P>OEtW I s h [E|t] H [T] H [E] WELLW
> <I>ShIN-(G)a [d V e] N [T] u ReRINS
> <E>tTIN (G)fort---- H [T] t
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Art NeuenDuffer

Art Neuendorffer

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> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> >
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > 
> > >    What a terrifying thought!  I always assumed that Art was
> > > having fun (indeed, Art is as easily amused as he is amusing).
 
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >     I said I was having fun. . . as Bacon surely did
> >      when he invented all this stuff in the first place.
> >  -----------------------------------------------------
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> You mean, *Bacon*, not Oxford, is responsible for all this crackpot
> cryptography?!  And here I thought that Bacon was *far* too
> competent a cryptographer to stoop to asinine non-anagrams!
 
                  This is a perfect anagram:
------------------------------------------------------------
       _La SAGEsse Mysterieuse des ANCIENS_,
  [ FRANCIS BACON's Wisdom of the ANCIENTs ]
  http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/athena/frameset-athena.html
 
<<Inscribed on [PALLAS ATHENA]'s shield is a Latin motto,
 
               "OBSCURIS  VERA INVOLVENS
            [ "BACON" SVS "NIL VERO VERIUS"]
 
 meaning 'TRUTH is enveloped in obscurity', which explains
   the imagery on the shield-the central SUN representing
     TRUTH and the surrounding clouds obscurity.>>
----------------------------------------------------------------
 
Then you should say what you mean (or mean what you say).
------------------------------------------------------
I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
       (like "OPIE") except to note that
 there are no four letter words independently repeated
Art Neuendorffer

Art Neuendorffer

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> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> >
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > 
> > >    What a terrifying thought!  I always assumed that Art was
> > > having fun (indeed, Art is as easily amused as he is amusing).
 
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >     I said I was having fun. . . as Bacon surely did
> >      when he invented all this stuff in the first place.
> >  -----------------------------------------------------
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> You mean, *Bacon*, not Oxford, is responsible for all this crackpot
> cryptography?!  And here I thought that Bacon was *far* too
> competent a cryptographer to stoop to asinine non-anagrams!
                  This is a perfect anagram:
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       _La SAGEsse Mysterieuse des ANCIENS_,
  [ FRANCIS BACON's Wisdom of the ANCIENTs ]
  http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/athena/frameset-athena.html
 
<<Inscribed on [PALLAS ATHENA]'s shield is a Latin motto,
 
               "OBSCURIS  VERA INVOLVENS
            [ "BACON" SVS "NIL VERO VERIUS"]
 
 meaning 'TRUTH is enveloped in obscurity', which explains
   the imagery on the shield-the central SUN representing
     TRUTH and the surrounding clouds obscurity.>>
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> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > with the lists of accidental words
> > > > that can be found in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> > > > Shakespeare's *Sonnets* that I thought his own words should be subject
> > > >  to the same treatment.  Here are some of the responses he gives in his
> > > >  profile at the Shakespeare [i.e., Oxford] Fellowship site:
> > > >
> > > >   Name: Arthur C. Neuendorffer
> > > >
> > > >   Occupation: Physicist
> > > >
> > > >   Hobbies: Authorship issue, hiking
> > > >
> > > >   Location: Maryland, P.G.
> > > >
> > > >   Bio: I am a NOAA physicist who works primarily on measuring ozone.
>  
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > 
> > >    By breathing it?
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net
  
> >        Remote infrared sensing from satellite.
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
  
>    Then I suspect that you're suffering from oxygen deprivation
>        from too much time spent on that satellite, Art.
 
  You probably don't understand how most satellites work, Dave.

> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >        I'm married with 3 grown children & one cocker spaniel.
>  
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > 
> > >    What's the dog's name, Art?
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net
  
> >                 Her name is Pepper.
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    But Samuel Spaniel would have been so much more appropriate for the
> pet of an Elizabethan history crank!  Is Pepper the one who finds your
> "anagrams," Art?
 
Pepper is more readily available to listen to my ideas
   than is George Mason (or most on h.l.a.s.).
  
> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Art's full profile may be found here:
> > > > http://www.shakespearefellowship.org/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?User=142
>  
> > "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
> > 
> > >    Art has logged only *947* posts to the Shakespeare Fellowship?! 
> > > Those poor Fellowship habitues are getting shortchanged!  Why pay good
> > > money for Fellowship dues when one can read Art for free at h.l.a.s.?
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net
  
> >        Not everyone can handle all the name calling at h.l.a.s.
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
 
>    Perhaps Fellowship members are not being shortchanged: do you avoid
> all your repetition in that forum?  As a test case, how many times have
> you posted "Agnes a gob" and its variants in the Fellowship forum, Art?
 
         I have 7 to 8 extra letters after forming the
 "VERONILVERIUS/THOMAS BRINCKNELL" cross.
 
    What (if anything I decide to do with them is secondary)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Bestiall OBLIVION, OR SOME CRAVEN SCRUPLE...
---------------------------------------------------------------
                 _Hamlet_  Act 4, Scene 4
 
Bestiall OBLIVION, OR SOME CRAVEN SCRUPLE
     OF THINKing too precisely on th'euent,
 
                 _Hamlet_ Act 4, Scene 7
 
CLAMBRING TO HANG, AN ENVIOUS SLIVER BROKE
---------------------------------------------------------------
____  is *extremely* difficult to find the 28 letters of a
 
 "VERONILVERIUS/THOMAS BRINCKNELL" cross
 
               V E R O N I L V E R I U S
________--------           L
________--------           E
________--------           N
________--------           K
________--------           C
________--------           N
________---------          I
________--------           R
________--------           B
________--------           S
________--------           A
________-------            M
________--------           O
________---------          H
________---------          T
 
     in any given string of  LESS THAN 39 LETTERS.
--------------------------------------------------------------
2 "VERONILVERIUS/THOMAS BRINCKNELL" cross
        IN A SINGLE ACT (i.e., 4) of Shakespeare !!
--------------------------------------------------------------
           Estimated probability of finding the
         "VERONILVERIUS/THOMAS BRINCKNELL" cross
                 in any given string of:
 
 35 letters  {"CLAMBRING TO HANG, AN ENVIOUS SLIVER BROKE"}
 
                    ~  1 / 50,000,000
 
 33 letters  { "BLIVION, OR SOME CRAVEN SCRUPLE OF THINK" }
 
                    ~  1 / 1,000,000,000
------------------------------------------------------------
  Estimated probability of finding two such strings
     IN A SINGLE ACT (i.e., 4) of Shakespeare :
 
                    ~  1 / 3,000,000
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> > >  Terry Ross <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > I took the letters of Art's words and placed them into a series of
> > > > Rollett-like arrays  Here, for example, is the 6-column array:
>  "Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net>

> >    Art does not dismiss remarkable "coincidences" out of hand.
 "David L. Webb" <david....@dartmouth.edu> wrote
  
>    That's what I said, in part.
Then you should say what you mean (or mean what you say).
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I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words
         (like "OPIE") except to note that
 there are no four letter words independently repeated
Art Neuendorffer

Terry Ross

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Sep 15, 2004, 12:26:45 PM9/15/04
to
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Art Neuendorffer wrote:

[snip]

> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
>> with the lists of accidental words that can be found
>> in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
>> Shakespeare's *Sonnets*
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Great fun, Terry!

My life is now fuller than I had ever hoped it would be.

>
> It's what smart people like to do: create & solve puzzles.
> (It's certainly what Francis Bacon liked to do.)

Unfortunately Bacon spent too much time a-thinkin' and a-writin', and not
enough time trying to become the Will Shortz of his age. That's probably
why I found "The Wisdom of the Ancients" so disappointing; not enough
word-find games, and nary a single double-crostic.

>
> Smart people certainly don't like to
> sue their neighbors for shillings & pence.

Depends on the country you're suing in. Shakespeare was English; it would
have been very UN-smart of him to have sued for shekels or pesos.

Art, this is not about Rollett but about you. This is not about
Shakespeare but about you. You are the one who composed the text that
contains all those words, so if anybody's cheating here, it must be you.
If you had not meant for us to find the words, you would not have put them
there. If you have confined your profile to 144 letters, then the arrays
would have been based on a smaller set. I can't guess why you ran on and
on in your profile, but you must have had some reason. My only role here
is to reveal some of the riches of your text.


> (, e.g., "FEEBLE, NAILE & SHENE").

My list of words found in Rollett's arrays is not limited by any such
consideration. Of course there are words in the Rollett arrays that one
might be surprised to find in a dedication to Shakespeare. That is what
one would expect to find in any such set of arrays. You could just as
easily claim that since some of the words in the arrays made from your
profile are rare or unfamiliar, you perhaps did not intend that they
should be part of your profile, but I think we all know better than that.
If you had not wanted the words found, you would not have made them
findable.

> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
>> names in this array. For example, in the first column, reading down, one
>> finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:
>>
>> O WORKS
>> P RIMAR
>> I LYONM
>> E ASURI
>>
>> Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
>> this year. Coincidence?
>
> Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
> limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).

Art, you are the one who put those isolated four-letter words there in the
first place; your motive for doing so is not clear, but nobody can doubt
your responsibility for every one of those words. All I did was take the
letters from your profile and uncover the words that you had hidden.
There have been thousands of television characters over the years, but of
how many of them can it be said that you not only mentioned them in the
obvious way in your posts, but also cleverly hid them in your profile?

>
> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> Or perhaps something deeper is at work. If we
>> read upward in the third column, and if we treat "i" and "j" as equivalent
>> (as we did with the Sonnet dedication arrays), we can also find "IOSH" --
>> that is, "JOSH" -- a word that has appeared in 14 of Art's posts:
>
> Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
> limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).

I haven't done a complete search of your posts, but for you to compose
your profile in such a way that "IOSH" and "OPIE" would appear in the same
array surely is no coincidence. In many cases, your reference to "Josh"
is actually to the Hebrew judge "Joshua," which makes the next find even
more impressive.


>
> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> AP H YSI
>> CI S TWH
>> OW O RKS
>> PR I MAR
>>
>> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
>> -- reading upwards in the same column:
>>
>> EH I KIN
>> GM A RYL
>> AN D PGI
>> AM A NOA
>> AP H YSI
>> CI S TWH
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.hillel.org/Hillel/NewHille.nsf/0/ee2cb0cea8a5b3508525693f00557a2f?OpenDocument
>
> <<What does "I am El Shadai" (Genesis 35:11) mean?
> [It means,] "I am He who said to the world, 'Enough!' ">>
>
> Sure doen't sound like me, Terry; but I'll concede
> that this one is, at least, interesting. ;-)

Art, of COURSE it doesn't "sound like you." One of the ways G_d is
honored is by NOT mentioning his name. Here you have it both ways. While
"Shadai" never appeared in your posts before, you DID arrange for it to be
found in the same array as Opie and Josh. The profundity and sublimity of
your religiosity leaves me breathless.


> ---------------------------------------------------------
> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> The same array also contains such gems as "METRIA," "SHIA,"
>> "RENE," and "OSHA." What could Art have meant by this?
>
> Puerperal fEVER or (METRIA) is an infection
> of the uterus usually contracted during
> or right after the DEliVERy of the child.

Did you contract this fever while you were delivering your profile to the
SF?

>
> "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
>
>> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
>> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
>>
>> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
>> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
>> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
>>
>> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
>> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
>> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
>>
>> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
>> so many words and names in his profile.
> ------------------------------------------------------

> And I'll leave it to Terry why to explain why he doesn't create a link
> to his actual study of Rollett's Sonnets dedication...which, unlike
> Neufer's bio, doesn't make any real sense
> as plane text (with or without the punctuation.)

The reasons are that "my actual study of Rollett" has not been put into
shape and that Rollett himself now thinks that "chance cannot be ruled
out" as an explanation for what he thought he found.

>
> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/wds1.html
>
> (I'll also leave it to Terry why to explain
> why he should go to all that effort on my bio.)

What effort? I grabbed a short sample of text and ran it through the same
processes that I used on the dedication; I used the same simple perl
scripts. I have also done the same on a sample text from Rollett
himself, and guess what -- he also hid hundreds of words and names that
are 4- or more letters long in the arrays that were formed from his own
sentence.

> I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words (for reasons
> stated above) except to note that there are no four letter words
> independently repeated in any of the Neufer arrays.

These words are repeated in the set of arrays: AJIT, AMEN, ANNA, APII,
ARAR, ARRI, CAIR, CROH, ERAS, ESSE, GRAN, GRIP, HAJJ, HAMI, HEII, IARE
(twice!), IATA, IENE (twice!), INRI, IRRA, JAMI, JARI, JASE, JINS, JORS
(twice!), JOSI, KATI, MITE, MORT, NAHA, NASA, NEMA, NERT, OJAI (twice!),
ORJI, RARA, RINA, RIOS, RIPT, RISE, RIVI, ROJI (thrice!), SARE, SASS,
SATO, SION, SLON, SOIR, SSAS, TANE, VINO, VOIR, WISP.

The religious streak in your secret profile is remarkable. Why else would
you repeat "AMEN" and "HAJJ" and "SION"? One would gather that you prefer
to take both substances when you receive communion ("VINO"), that you
believe God's essence is his existence ("ESSE"), that while you fear death
("MORT"), you have faith in your eventual resurrection ("RISE"). All of
this only makes your hiding SHADAI in your profile even more meaningful.

>
> This fact makes the repeated "NILE" in the Rollett array
> that much more interesting:


It is not perhaps so interesting as the fact that in Milton's great
acrostic *Paradise Lost* the name "OTTO" appears four times.


> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> <= 19 =>
>
> __ TOTHEO [N] li _ <E B E (G) ____ ETTERO
> __ FTHESE__- [I] nS - U<I>N (G) ____ SONNET
> __ SMrWha_- [L] LH _ [a] P <P> I__ [N] __ESSEA
> __ NDthat____[E] T __ [E|r] - N <I> T__ [I] E<P>ROM
> __ ISEDB Y O u ____ [R|e] V <E> R [L]<I> VING
> <P>OEtW I s h _____ [E|t] _ H [T] H__ [E] WELLW
> <I>ShIN-(G)a _____ [d V e] N [T] u ______ ReRINS
> <E>tTIN (G)fort----_______ H [T] t
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> But there is at least one 5 letter (Neufer array) word
> that Shakespeare would recognize:

Why ignore the 6-letter words, O namer of SHADAI? There are two of your
6-letter words that Shakespeare not only recognized but used -- HARRIE and
OWNERS:

a1h4f: Enter HARRIE Hotspurre, Worcester,
a1h4f: Hot. My name is HARRIE Percie.
a2h4f:Prince HARRIE slaine out-right: and both the Blunts
a2h4f:And HARRIE Monmouth's Brawne (the Hulke Sir Iohn)
a2h4f:Said he yong HARRIE Percyes Spurre was cold?
a2h4f:Against the Welsh himselfe, and HARRIE Monmouth.
a2h4f:Knight, to the Sonne of the King, neerest his Father, HARRIE [900]
a2h4f: Enter Northumberland, his Ladie, and
HARRIE
a2h4f:Come hither HARRIE, sit thou by my bedde,
a2h4f:Therefore (my HARRIE)
a2h4f: War. Heere come the heauy Issue of dead HARRIE:
a2h4f:O, that the liuing HARRIE had the temper [2900]
a2h4f:But weepe that HARRIE's dead, and so will I.
movf:Puts bars betweene the OWNERS and their rights. [1360]
r2f: Gaunt. When HARRIE when? Obedience bids,
r2f: Mar. HARRIE of Herford, Lancaster, and Derby,
taf:And bid the OWNERS quench them with the teares: [2250]
timf:Things of like valew differing in the OWNERS,
a1h4q:HARRIE, I doe not onelie maruaile where thou spendest thy
a1h4q:panie thou keepest: for HARRIE now, I do not speake to thee in
a2h4q:And that yong HARRIE Percies spur was cold:
r2q:Was not Gaunt iust? and is not HARRIE true? [840]
r3q:HARRIE the sixt bids thee dispaire and die.
r3q:HARRIE that prophisied thou shouldst be king,
t&cf:All dues be rendred to their OWNERS: now
taq:And bid the OWNERS quench them with their teares: [2250]
son:They are the Lords and OWNERS of their faces,
son:The OWNERS tongue doth publish euery where.

Here are the Shakespearean instances of your 5-letter words -- HERNE is by
no means the whole story:

a&cf:to Anthonie, shall dye a Begger. Inke and PAPER Char-
a&cf:Get me Inke and PAPER,
a&cf:Sextus Pompeius spoil'd, we had not RATED him
a2h6f:While as the silly OWNER of the goods
a2h6f:Be thus vpbrayded, chid, and RATED at,
a2h6f:hast built a PAPER-Mill. It will be prooued to thy Face,
a2h6f:Climbing my walles inspight of me the OWNER,
a3h6f:Had SLIPT our Claime, vntill another Age.
a3h6f:Sends me a PAPER to perswade me Patience?
a1h4f:Of Murry, ANGUS, and Menteith.
a1h4f:were to be bought: an olde Lord of the Councell RATED
a1h4f:Who is, if euery OWNER were plac'd,
a1h4f:RATED my Vnckle from the Councell-Boord,
a1h4f:Who with them was RATED firmely too,
a2h4f:We fortifie in PAPER, and in Figures,
a2h4f:Are neere at hand: The rest the PAPER telles.
a2h4f:(Then check'd, and RATED by Northumberland)
a2h4f:thou had'st strooke thy Mother, thou PAPER-fac'd Vil-
adof:to the OWNER.
adof:of PAPER: my daughter tells vs all.
adof: Clau. Now you talke of a sheet of PAPER, I remember
adof:and sentences, and these PAPER bullets of the braine awe
adof:For heres a PAPER written in his hand,
aylif:The OWNER of the house I did enquire for?
awwf:OWNER of no one good qualitie, worthy your Lordships
awwf:Heere 'tis, heere's a PAPER, shall I reade it to you?
awwf:Commend the PAPER to his gracious hand,
awwf:Pray you sir deliuer me this PAPER.
awwf:Foh, prethee stand away: a PAPER from fortunes
awwf:Wrap'd in a PAPER, which contain'd the name
corf:Deliuer them this PAPER: hauing read it,
cymf:And I not haue it, 'twere a PAPER lost
cymf: Post. I prais'd her, as I RATED her: so do I my Stone.
cymf:Shall giue thee opportunitie. Oh damn'd PAPER,
cymf:Why tender'st thou that PAPER to me, with
cymf: Pis. What shall I need to draw my Sword, the PAPER
cymf:This PAPER is the historie of my knowledge
errf:That staies but till her OWNER comes aboord,
errf:But for their OWNER, Master, and your selfe.
h5f:Their cheekes are PAPER. Why, what reade you there,
h5f:Doe the low-RATED English play at Dice;
h8f: Card. Look'd he o'th' inside of the PAPER? [1930]
h8f:Some Spirit put this PAPER in the Packet,
h8f:Then makes him nothing. I must reade this PAPER:
h8f:This PAPER ha's vndone me: 'Tis th' Accompt
h8f:That PAPER in your hand.
h8f:I should haue beene beholding to your PAPER:
hamf:But like the OWNER of a foule disease,
jcf: Cassi. Be you content. Good Cinna, take this PAPER,
jcf:This PAPER, thus seal'd vp, and I am sure
jcf:Who RATED him for speaking well of Pompey;
johnf:For greefe is proud, and makes his OWNER stoope,
johnf:Paying the fine of RATED Treachery,
learf: Glou. What PAPER were you reading?
learf: Bast. If the matter of this PAPER be certain, you haue
learf:With this vngracious PAPER strike the sight
learf: Alb. Why farethee well, I will o're-looke thy PAPER.
learf:Or with this PAPER shall I stop it: hold Sir,
learf: Alb. Most monstrous! O, know'st thou this PAPER?
lllf:Giue me the PAPER, let me reade the same,
lllf:He hath not eate PAPER as it were:
lllf:goe my sweete, deliuer this PAPER into the hand of the
lllf: Enter Berowne with a PAPER in his hand,
alone.
lllf:PAPER, God giue him grace to grone.
lllf:How shall she know my griefes? Ile drop the PAPER.
lllf:As would be cram'd vp in a sheet of PAPER
lllf:And in our maiden counsaile RATED them,
macf: Enter Rosse and ANGUS.
macf: Enter Rosse and ANGUS.
macf: Enter Macbeth, Banquo, Rosse, and
ANGUS.
macf: Rosse, ANGUS, and Attendants.
macf:I haue almost SLIPT the houre.
macf:pon her, vnlocke her Closset, take foorth PAPER, folde it, [2100]
macf: ANGUS, Lenox, Soldiers.
macf: Seywards Sonne, Menteth, Cathnes,
ANGUS,
mfmf:You would haue SLIPT like him, but he like you
mfmf:commoditie of browne PAPER, and olde Ginger, nine
mndf: And the OWNER of it blest.
movf:In the Ryalto you haue RATED me
movf:And whiter then the PAPER it writ on,
movf:If thou beest RATED by thy estimation
movf:PAPER,
movf:That this same PAPER brings you.
movf:That euer blotted PAPER. Gentle Ladie
movf:The PAPER as the bodie of my friend, [1620]
mwwf:PAPER: tarry you a littell-a-while.
mwwf: Mis.Page. There is an old tale goes, that HERNE the [2150]
mwwf:This tale of HERNE the Hunter, for a truth. [2160]
mwwf:ries? and the Welch-deuill HERNE?
mwwf:husbands. Am I a Woodman, ha? Speake I like HERNE
mwwf:Worthy the OWNER, and the OWNER it.
mwwf:Of HERNE the Hunter, let vs not forget. ((set:
mwwf:now: VVill none but HERNE the Hunter serue your
othf:tenant, I haue a STOPE of Wine, and heere without are a
othf: Lod. He did not call: he's busie in the PAPER,
othf: Othe. Was this faire PAPER? This most goodly Booke
othf: Lod. Now, heere's another discontented PAPER
r2f:From where you do remaine, let PAPER show. [540]
r2f:Make Dust our PAPER, and with Raynie eyes
r2f: North. Read o're this PAPER, while y Glasse doth come.
r2f:At large discoursed in this PAPER heere.
r3f:When thou didst Crown his Warlike Brows with PAPER,
r3f:Giue me some Inke and PAPER in my Tent:
r3f:Giue me some Inke and PAPER:
r3f:Set it downe. Is Inke and PAPER ready?
rjf:Thou knowest my lodging, get me inke and PAPER,
shrf:Affection is not RATED from the heart:
shrf:Ile mend it with a Largesse. Take your PAPER too,
shrf: Tri. Oh sir, Lucentio SLIPT me like his Gray-hound,
taf:Great reason that my Noble Lord, be RATED [820]
tgvf: Lu. Peruse this PAPER Madam.
tgvf:There: take the PAPER: see it be return'd,
tgvf: Lu. To take a PAPER vp, that I let fall. [230]
tgvf: Iul. And is that PAPER nothing?
tgvf:Ile kisse each seuerall PAPER, for amends:
tgvf:newes then in your PAPER? [1350]
tgvf: Sp. Come foole, come : try me in thy PAPER.
tgvf:Deliuer'd you a PAPER that I should not;
tgvf:As easily, as I doe teare his PAPER. [1950]
timf: Poet. A thing SLIPT idlely from me.
timf: Iewel. My Lord, 'tis RATED [210]
timf:feare me) thou wilt giue away thy selfe in PAPER shortly.
timf:That I might so haue RATED my expence
tnf:Where like ORION on the Dolphines backe,
tnf:crums. A STOPE of Wine Maria.
tnf:ny Lyes, as will lye in thy sheete of PAPER, although the
tnf:my hand, helpe me to a Candle, and pen, inke, and PAPER:
tnf:PAPER, I tell thee I am as well in my wittes, as any man in
tnf:I will fetch you light, and PAPER, and inke.
wtf:You did continue fault; and that you SLIPT not
a1h4q:Of Murrey, ANGUS, and Menteith:
a1h4q:to be bought: an olde Lorde of the councell RATED me the o-
a1h4q:(Who is if euerie OWNER were well plac'd
a1h4q:RATED mine vnkle from the counsell boord,
a1h4q:Who with them was a RATED sinew too,
a2h4q: Bard. We fortifie in PAPER, and in figures,
a2h4q:Are neare at hand, the rest the PAPER tells.
a2h4q:Then checkt and RATED by Northumberland,
a2h4q:ther, thou PAPER-facde villaine.
a2h6q:I'll keepe to my selfe, and not be RATED thus.
a2h6q: Elnor. Here Sir Iohn, take this scrole of PAPER here,
a2h6q:Crowne and dignitie, thou hast built vp a PAPER-mill, nay it wil be
[2670]
a2h6q:And I went and entred my Action in his wiues PAPER house.
a2h6q:And enterd into my ground without the leaue of me the OWNER,
a3h6o:Had SLIPT our claime vntill an other age.
adoq:OWNER.
adoq:in her smocke, til she haue writ a sheete of PAPER: my daughter
adoq: Clau. Now you talk of a sheet of PAPER, I remember a prety
adoq:dure in his age. Shall quippes and sentences, and these PAPER
adoq:For heres a PAPER written in his hand,
h5q:Not worshipt with a PAPER Epitaph: [380]
hamq1:Goe fetch me a STOPE of drinke, but before thou
hamq1:Last till Doomes-day. Fetch me a STOPE of beere, goe.
hamq2:But like the OWNER of a foule disease
learq: Glost. What PAPER were you reading?
learq: Bast. If the matter of this PAPER be certaine, you haue mighty
learq:With this vngratious PAPER strike the sight
learq: Alb. Why fare thee well, I will ore-looke the PAPER.
learq: Alb. Stop your mouth dame, or with this PAPER shall I stople
learq: Alb. Most monstrous know'st thou this PAPER?
lllq:Giue me the PAPER, let me reade the same,
lllq:He hath not eate PAPER as it were: he hath not drunke inck.
lllq:deliuer this PAPER into the royall hand of the King, it may
lllq: Enter Berowne with a PAPER in his hand,
alone.
lllq:a PAPER, God giue him grace to grone.
lllq:How shall she know my griefes? Ile drop the PAPER.
lllq:As would be crambd vp in asheete of PAPER
lllq:And in our mayden counsaile RATED them,
mndq:And the OWNER of it blest.
movq:In the Ryalto you haue RATED me
movq:And whiter then the PAPER it writ on
movq:If thou beest RATED by thy estimation
movq: Por.There are some shrowd contents in yond same PAPER
movq:that this same PAPER brings you.
movq:that euer blotted PAPER. Gentle Lady
movq:the PAPER as the body of my friend,
othq:haue a STOPE of Wine, and heere without are a brace of Cypres Gal-
othq: Lod. He did not call, hee's busie in the PAPER:
othq: Oth. Was this faire PAPER, this most goodly booke,
othq: Lod. Now heres another discontented PAPER,
r2q:From where you doe remaine let PAPER shew. [540]
r2q:Make dust our PAPER, and with rainy eies,
r2q:At large discoursed in this PAPER heere.
r3q:When thou didst crowne his warlike browes with PAPER,
r3q: Enter a Scriuener with a PAPER in his
hand.
r3q:Giue me some inke, and PAPER, in my tent,
r3q: King. I will not sup to night, giue me some inke and PAPER,
r3q:Set it down. Is inke and PAPER ready?
r3q:This found I on my tent this morning. ( a PAPER.
rjq1:Goe get mee incke and PAPER, hyre post horse,
rjq1: Rom:Doo as I bid thee, get me incke and PAPER,
rjq2:Thou knowest my lodging, get me inke and PAPER,
t&cf:thou would'st not haue SLIPT out of my contemplation,
t&cf:The bonds of heauen are SLIPT, dissolu'd, and loos'd,
taq:Great reason that my Noble Lord be RATED [820]
tnkq:But OWNER of a Sword: By all othes in one
tnkq:She SLIPT away, and to the Citty made,
va:Lest the deceiuing harmonie should RONNE,
luc: Honour and beauty, in the OWNER's arms,
luc:The DOORS, the wind, the glove, that did delay him,
luc: From this fair throne to heave the OWNER out.
luc:'Go, get me hither PAPER, ink and pen;
luc:First hovering o'er the PAPER with her quill.
son:For euery vulgar PAPER to rehearse:


I can't guess why you concealed those Shakespearean words in your SF
profile; perhaps you can enlighted us?


>
> HERNE:0303u
>
> ____ A R T
> ____ H U R
> ____ C N E
> ____ U-E N
> ____ D O R
> ____ F_F E
> ____ R-P H
> ____ Y S_I
> ____ C-I_S T
>
> It's a mystery. ;-)

[snip of Art's marvelous Herning]

One mystery is why when you composed your SF profile you hid such
Shakespearean words as HARRIE and OWNERS, as PAPER and RATED and OWNER and
ANGUS and SLIPT and ORION and STOPE and RONNE and DOORS, and the hundreds
of 4-letter (and thousands of 3-letter) words.

In the case of Thomas Thorpe's dedication, one might be tempted to say
that all the words in the arrays were accidents. After all, it would be
nigh impossible for anybody to write a 144-letter English sentence that
would NOT produce "words" when placed in a series of Rollet-like arrays,
and Thorpe could have had no idea that a Rollettish procedure would some
day be employed on his dedication.

In your case, Art, we must fight the temptation to call the results
"accidents." After all, you have long been fascinated by the Rollett
arrays; you seek the significance in them of many words that even Rollett
would have regarded as accidents. With your knowledge of the existence of
the Rollett procedure, you cannot have been so naive as to expect that
your own words would remain unexamined. Moreover, your profile was posted
to the Shakespeare (i.e., Oxford) Fellowship site -- a site dedicated to
promoting the idea that Oxford wrote Shakespeare's works. You seem to
believe that the true authorship of Shakespeare's works is a secret that
was deliberately hidden within Shakespearean texts. Can any person
familiar with your contributions to hlas and the SF forum believe you
would NOT have concealed words in your SF profile?

Buffalo

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to
"Art Neuendorffer" <aneuendor...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1aednZcTweg...@comcast.com...

> Smart people certainly don't like to
> sue their neighbors for shillings & pence.

No, Art. It's smart *moneylenders* who don't like to sue their neighbours
for shillings & pence.

Buffalo


Art Neuendorffer

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> Art Neuendorffer wrote":

 
> >   These 159 letters allows about 50% more possibilities
> > than Rollett's 144 letters;
 
Actually 159 letters allow only about 23% more possibilities
 than Rollett's 144 letters; however, the 4 "Y's" should make
 finding HENRY WR-IOTH-ESLEY considerably easier.
    In spite of this considerable advantage Terry's
         "HEN-RY WRI-OT-HES-LEY"
      now requires  6 pieces over 4 arrays (!!)
as compared with Rollett's 4 pieces over 2 arrays
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 HORSHIPI___SSUEHIKIN___GMARYLANDPGIAM
 ANOAAPH_-Y SICISTW__H  OWORKSPRIMARILY
 ONMEASU  R INGOZON  E  IMMARRIEDWITHTH
 REEGROW  N CHILDRE  N  ANDONECOCKERSPA
 NIEL
 
05
             ARTHU
             RCNEU
             ENDOR
             FFERP
             HYSIC
             ISTAU
             THORS
             HIPIS
             SUEHI
             KINGM
             ARYLA
             NDPGI
             AMANO
             AAPHY
             SICIS
             TW HOW
             OR KSP
             RI MAR
             ILYON
             MEASU
             RINGO
             ZONEI
             MMARR
             IEDWI
             THTHR
             EEGRO
             WNCHI
             LDREN
             ANDON
             ECOCK
             ERSPA
             NIEL
 
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 ARTHURCNEUENDORFFERPHYSICIS____TAUTHO
 RSHIPISSUEHIKINGMARYLANDPGI____AMANOA
 APHYSICISTWHOWORKSPRIMARIL___Y ONMEAS
 URINGOZONEIMMARRIEDWITHTHR   E EGROWN
 CHILDRENANDONECOCKERSPANIE__ L
 
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 ARTHURCNE___  UENDORFFERPHYSIC
 ISTAUTHOR___  SHIPISSUEHIKINGM
 ARYLANDPG___  IAMANOAAPHYSICIS
 TWHOWORK    S PRIMARILYONMEASU
 RINGOZON___ E IMMARRIEDWITHTHR
 EEGROWNC_   H ILDRENANDONECOCK
 ERSPANIEL
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"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote

> Art, this is not about Rollett but about you. 
> This is not about Shakespeare but about you.
 
No, Terry, this is about your independent test of what one should expect from a random ~ 150 letter Rollett array in so far as finding 5 letter pertinent Shakespearean words and HENRY WR-IOTH-ESLEY in just 4 pieces over 2 arrays.
 
> Art Neuendorffer wrote":
 
> >  however, the "real cheat"
> > in what you are doing is that you don't limit yourself
> > to solutions that Shake-speare would have understand
> > (, e.g., "FEEBLE, NAILE & SHENE").
>
> My list of words found in Rollett's arrays
>  is not limited by any such  consideration.
 
         That's the problem, Terry!
You even excluded "NAILE & SHENE".
 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote
 
>  Of course there are words in the Rollett arrays that one
> might be surprised to find in a dedication to Shakespeare.
 
 And those words are accidental (like all the words in the Neufer array).
 
Art Neuendorffer

Art Neuendorffer

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> > "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> >
> >> Art has so much fun (I HOPE it was fun)
> >> with the lists of accidental words that can be found
> >> in Rollett-like arrays of the dedication to
> >> Shakespeare's *Sonnets*
 
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Art Neuendorffer wrote:
 
> >                 Great fun, Terry!
 
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote
 
> My life is now fuller than I had ever hoped it would be.
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Fuller: The word "full" is from the Anglo-Saxon fullian, meaning
   "to whiten." To full is to press or scour cloth in a mill.
   This art is one of great antiquity. Mention is made of
"fuller's soap" (Mal. 3:2), and of "the fuller's field" (2 Kings 18:17).
At his transfiguration our Lord's rainment is said to have been white
"so as no fuller on earth could white them" (Mark 9:3). En-rogel (q.v.),
meaning literally "foot-fountain," has been interpreted as the "fuller's
fountain," because there the fullers trod the cloth with their feet.
-------------------------------------------------------------
  The Brewer's Phase & Fable Dictionary has a nice table of
                Symbols of Saints:

SAINTS.                          SYMBOLS. 

James the Less     A fuller's pole. He was killed by
                    Simon the fuller.
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Terry Ross wrote:

<<It is not true -- indeed, it is false -- to suggest that
"Hasti vibrans" was an epithet for Athena or Minerva.  The term was
never used thus by Virgil.  It was never used thus by Ovid.  It was
never
used thus by Horace or Catullus.  It was never used thus by Seneca.  It
was never used thus by Terence or Plautus.  Indeed, the term was never
used in any fashion by any classical author at any time that I know of
(and believe me, I have looked). The first instance of the term
"hastivibrans" that I have been able to
locate occurs in Thomas Fuller's *Worthies of Warwickshire* (1662).>>
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  THOMAS FULLER _The Worthies of England_ (1662)
   ed. Nichols, vol. II, p. 414.

<<William Shakespeare was born at Stratford on Avon in this County
[i.e., Warwick]; in whom three eminent Poets may seem in some sort
to be compounded.

1. Martial, in the warlike sound of his Surname (whence some
   may conjecture him of a Military extraction) Hastivibrans,
           or Shake-speare.

2. Ovid, the most naturall and witty of all Poets, and hence it was that
Queen Elizabeth, coming into a Grammar-School, made this extemporary
verse,

  "Persius a Crab-staffe, Bawdy Martial, Ovid a fine Wag."

3. Plautus, who was an exact Comedian, yet never any Scholar,
    as our Shake-speare (if alive) would confess himself.

   Adde to all these, that though his Genius generally
was jocular, and inclining him to festivity, yet he could
(when so disposed) be solemn and serious, as appears by his
Tragedies; so that Heraclitus himself (I mean if secret and unseen)
might afford to smile at his Comedies, they were so merry; and
Democritus scarce forbear to sigh at his Tragedies, they were so
mournfull. He was an eminent instance of the truth of that Rule, "Poeta
non fit, sed nascitur;" one is not made, but born a Poet. Indeed his
Learning was very little, so that, as Cornish diamonds are not polished
by any Lapidary, but are pointed and smoothed even as they are taken out
of the Earth, so Nature itself was all the Art which was used upon him.
Many were the Wit-combates betwixt him and Ben Jonson, which two I
behold like a Spanish great Gallion and an English Man of War: Master
Jonson (like the former) was built far higher in Learning, solid, but
slow, in his performances. Shake-speare, with the English Man of War,
lesser in bulk, but lighter in sailing, could turn with all tides,
tack about, and take advantage of all winds, by the quickness
of his Wit and Invention.>>
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   "Amongst the inns and taverns frequented by Shakspere may be
mentioned the Falcon Tavern, by the Bankside, which was the place of
meeting of the mighty poets and wits of the Elizabethan age - of
Shakspere, Ben Jonson, Marlowe, Massinger, Ford, Beaumont, Fletcher,
Drayton, Herrick, and a host of lesser names.

   An assemblage, indeed, unique in any country or in any age! Here
took place those ‘wit combats,' of which Fuller speaks, between
Shakspere and Ben Jonson, ‘which two I behold like a Spanish great
galleon, and an English man-of-war; Master Jonson (like the former)
was built far higher in learning; solid, but slow, in his
performances.

   Shakspere, like the English man-of-war, lesser in bulk, but lighter
in sailing, could turn with all tides, tack about, and take advantage
of all winds by the quickness of his wit and invention.'

Fuller's Life of Jonson"    
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http://91.1911encyclopedia.org/F/FU/FULLER_WILLIAM.htm

<<FULLER, THOMAS (1608-1661), English divine and historian,

His last and best patron was George BERKELEY,
          1st Earl BERKELEY (1628-1698),
 of Cranford House, Middlesex, whose chaplain he was,
 and who gave him Cranford rectory (1658).
To this noble-man Fuller's reply to Heylyn's Examen Historicum,
 called The Appeal of Injured Innocence (1659), was inscribed.

According to Aubrey, [Thomas] Fuller was" a boy of pregnant wit."
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Elizabeth wrote:

<<Brother of Jesus; also called James the Just. James is mentioned as
the first among the brothers of Jesus, the others being Joses, Simon,
and Judas (Matt. xiii. 55; Mark vi. 3), all of whom were, according to
Luke ii. 7, younger than Jesus. Neither James nor any of the other
brothers believed in the miraculous powers of Jesus (John vii. 5; Matt.
xii. 47 et seq.; Mark iii. 31). But after the crucifixion James, the
brother of Jesus, is said by Paul to have seen the risen Jesus in a
vision after Peter, the twelve, and the five hundred had seen him (I
Cor. xv. 7); and when Paul went to Jerusalem to defend his claim to the
assumed apostleship to the heathen, James was the head of the Church
(Gal. i. 19; ii. 9, 12; Acts xii. 17, xv. 13, xxi. 18). According to
Clement of Rome, quoted by Eusebius ("Hist. Eccl." ii. 1), James,
surnamed "the Just" on account of his great virtue, was the
 first bishop of the Church elected at Jerusalem. About his
martyrdom Clement writes that" he was cast from a wing
 of the Temple and beaten to death with a fuller's club.">>
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Fuller: The word "full" is from the Anglo-Saxon fullian, meaning
 "to whiten." To full is to press or scour cloth in a mill.
 This art is one of great antiquity. Mention is made of
"fuller's soap" (Mal. 3:2), and of "the fuller's field" (2 Kings 18:17).
At his transfiguration our Lord's rainment is said to have been white
"so as no fuller on earth could white them" (Mark 9:3). En-rogel (q.v.),
meaning literally "foot-fountain," has been interpreted as the "fuller's
fountain," because there the fullers trod the cloth with their feet.

{Fuller's earth}, a variety of clay, used in scouring
              and cleansing cloth, to imbibe grease.

<<Sad however because it lasts only a few years till they settle down to
potwalloping and papa's pants will soon fit Willy and fuller's earth for
the baby when they hold him out to do ah ah. No soft job. Saves them.
Keeps them out of harm's way. Nature. Washing child, washing corpse.
Dignam>> - _Ulysses_

<<Stephen, taking his ashplant from its leaningplace, followed them out
and, as they went down the ladder, pulled to the slow iron door and
locked it. He put the huge key in his inner pocket. At the foot of the
ladder Buck Mulligan asked:

 -- Did you bring the key?

 -- I have it, Stephen said, preceding them. He walked on. Behind him he
heard Buck Mulligan club with his heavy bathtowel the leader shoots of
ferns or grasses.>>
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FULLER'S EARTH (Ger. Walkererde, Fr. terre a foulon, argue smeclique)-so
named from its use by fullers as an absorbent of the grease and oil of
cloth,-a clay-like substance, which from its variability is somewhat
difficult to define. In. colour it is most often greenish, olive-green or
greenish-grey; on weathering it changes to a brown tint or it may bleach. As
a rule it falls to pieces when placed in water and is not markedly plastic;
when dry it adheres strongly to the tongue; since, however, these properties
are possessed by many clays that do not exhibit detergent qualities, the
only test of value lies in the capacity to absorb grease or clarify oil.
Fuller's earth has a specific gravity of f'7-2'4, and a shining streak; it
is usually unctuous' to the touch. Microscopically, it consists of minute
irregular-shaped particles of a mineral that appears to be the result of a
chioritic or talcose alteration of a felspar. The small size of most of the
grains, less than ~07 mm., makes their determination almost impossible.

Fuller's earth may occur on any geological horizon; at Nutfield in Surrey,
England, it is in the Cretaceous formations; at Midford near Bath it is of
Jurassic age; at Bala, North Wales, it occurs in Ordovician strata; in
Saxony it appears to be the decomposition product of a diabasic rock. In
America it is found in California in rocks ranging from Cretaceous to
Pleistc~ene age; in S. Dakota, Custer county and elsewhere a yellow, gritty
earth of Jurassic age is worked; in Florida and Georgia occurs a brittle,
whitish earth of Oligocene age. Other deposits are worked in Arkansas,
Texas, Colorado, Massachusetts and South Carolina.

Fuller's earth is either mined or dug in the open according to local
circumstances. It is then dried in the sun or by artificial heat and
transported in small lumps in sacks. In other cases it is ground to a fine
powder after being dried; or it is first roughly ground and made into a
slurry with water, which is allowed to carry off the finer from the coarser
particles and deposit them in a creamy state in suitable tanks. After
consolidation this fine material is dried artificially on drying floors,
broken into lumps, and packed for transport. The use of fuller's earth for
cleansing wool and cloth has greatly decreased, but the demand for the
material is as great or greater than it ever was. It is now used very
largely in the filtration of mineral oils, and also for decolourizing
certain vegetable oils. It is employed in the formation of certain soaps and
cleansing preparations.

The term " Fuller's Earth " has a special significance in geology, for it
was applied by W. Smith in 1799 to certain clays in the neighbouihood of
Bath, and the use of the expression is still retained by English geologists,
either in this form or in the generalized "Fullonian." The Fullonian lies at
the base of the Great Oolite or Bathonian series, but its palaeontological
characters place it between that series and the underlying Inferior Oolite.
The zonal fossils are Perisphinctes arbustigerus and Macrocephalus
subcontract us with Ostrea acuminala, Rhynchonella concinna and Goniomya
angulifera. The formation is in part the equivalent of the " Vesulien" of J.
Marcou (Vesoul in Haute-Saône). In Dorsetshire and Somersetshire, where it
is best developed, it is represented by an Upper Fuller's Earth Clay, the
Fuller's Earth Rock (an impersistent earthy limestone, usually
fossiliferous), and the Lower Fuller's Earth Clay. Commercial fuller's earth
has been obtained only from the Upper Clay. In eastern Gloucestershire and
northern Oxfordshire the Fuller's Earth passes downwards without break into
the Inferior Oolite; northward it dies out about Chipping Norton in
Oxfordshire and passes laterally into the Stonesfield Slates series; in the
midland counties it may perhaps be represented by the "Upper Estuarine
Series." In parts of Dorsetshire the clays have been used for brickmaking
and the limestone (rock) for local buildings.>>
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<<FULLER, WILLIAM (1670-c. 1717), English impostor, was born at Milton in
Kent on the 20th of September 1670. His paternity is doubtful, but he was
related to the family of Herbert. After 1688 he served James II.'s queen,
Mary of Modena, and the Jacobites, seeking at the same time to gain favour
with William III.; and after associating with Titus Oates, being imprisoned
for debt and pretending to reveal Jacobite plots, the House of Commons in
1692 declared he was an "imposter, cheat and false accuser." Having stood in
the pillory he was again imprisoned until 1695, when he was released; and at
this time he took the opportunity to revive the old and familiar story that
Mary of Modena was not the mother of the prince of Wales. In 1701 he
published his autobiographical Life of William Fuller and some Original
Letters of the late King James. Unable to prove the assertions made in his
writings he was put in the pillory, whipped and fined. He died, probably in
prison, about 1717. Fuller's other writings are Mr William Fuller's trip to
Bridewell, with a full account of his barbarous usage in the pillory; The
sincere and hearty confession of Mr William Fuller (1704); and An humble
appeal to the -impartial judgment of all parties in Great Britain (1716).

He must be distinguished from WILLIAM FULLER (1608-1675), dean of St Patrick
's (1660), bishop of Limerick (1663), and bishop of Lincoln (1667), the
friend of Samuel Pepys; and also from William Fuller (c. 1580-1659), dean of
Ely and later dean of Durham.>>
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According to Aubrey, [Thomas] Fuller was" a boy of pregnant wit."
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http://91.1911encyclopedia.org/F/FU/FULLER_WILLIAM.htm

<<FULLER, THOMAS (1608-1661), English divine and historian, eldest son of
Thomas Fuller, rector of Aldwincle St Peter's, Northamptonshire, was born at
his father's rectory and was baptized on the 19th of June 1608. Dr John
Davenant, bishop of Salisbury, was his uncle and godfather. According to
Aubrey, Fuller was" a boy of pregnant wit." At thirteen he was admitted to
Queens' College, Cambridge, then presided over by Dr John Davenant. His
cousin, Edward Davenant, was a tutor in the same college. He was apt and
quick in study; and in Lent 1624-f 625 he became B.A. and in July 1628 M.A.
Being overlooked in an election of fellows of his college, he was removed by
Bishop Davenant to Sidney Sussex College, November 1628. In. 1630 he
received from Corpus Christi College the curacy of St Benet's, Cambridge.

Fuller's quaint and humorous oratory soon attracted attention. He published
in 1631 a poem on the subject of David and Bathaheba, entitled David's
Hainous Sinne, Heartie Repentance, Heav'ie Punishment. In June of the same
year his uncle gave him a prebend in Salisbury, where his father, who died
in the following year, held a canonry. The rectory of Broadwindsor,
Dorsetshire, then in the diocese of Bristol, was his next preferment (1634);
and on the 11th of June 1635 he proceeded B.D. At Broadwindsor he compiled
The Hislorie of the Holy Warre (1639), a history of the crusades, and The
Holy Slate and life Prophane Stale (1642). This work describes the holy
state as existing in the family and in public life, gives rules of conduct,
mode] "characters" for the various professions and profane biographies. It
was perhaps the most popular of all his writings He was in 1640 elected
proctor for Bristol in the memorabh convocation of Canterbury, which
assembled with the Shorl Parliament. On the sudden dissolution of the latter
he joinec those who urged that convocation should likewise dissolve a~
usual. That opinion was overruled; and the assembly continuec to sit by
virtue of a royal writ. Fuller has left in his Churci History a valuable
account of the proceedings of this synod for sitting in which he was fined
£200, which, however, was neve exacted. His first published volume of
sermons appeared ii 1640 under the title of Joseph's par~.y-coloured Coat,
which contain many of his quaint utterances and odd conceits. His grosse
mannerisms of style, derived from the divines of the forme generation,
disappeared for the most part in his subsequent discourses.

About 1640 he had married Eleanor, daughter of Hugh Grove of Chisenbury,
Wiltshire. She died in 1641. Their eldest child, John, baptized at
Broadwindsor by his father, 6th June 1641, was afterwards of Sidney Sussex
College, edited the Worthies of England, 1662, and became rector of Great
Wakering, Essex, where he died in 1687.

At Broadwindsor, early in the year 1641, Thomas Fuller, his curate Henry
Sanders, the church wardens, and others, nine persons altogether, certified
that their parish, represented by 242 grown-up male persons, had taken the
Protestation ordered by the speaker of the Long Parliament. Fuller was not
formally dispossessed of his living and prebend on the triumph of the
Presbyterian party, but he relinquished both preferments about this time.
For a short time he preached with success at the Inns of Court, and thence
removed, at the invitation of the master of the Savoy (Dr Balcanqual) and
the brotherhood of that foundation, to be lecturer at their chapel of St
Mary Savoy. Some of the best discourses of the witty preacher were delivered
at the Savoy to audiences which extended into the chapel-yard. In one he set
forth with searching and truthful minuteness the hindrances to. peace, and
urged the signing of petitions to the king at Oxford, and to the parliament,
to continue their care in advancing an accommodation. In his Appeal of
Injured Innocence Fuller says that he was once deputed to carry a petition
to the king at Oxfoi'd. This has been identified with a petition entrusted
to Sir Edward Wardour, clerk of the pells, Dr Dukeson, "Dr Fuller," and four
or five others from the city of Westminster and the parishes contiguous to
the Savoy. A pass was granted by the House of Lords, on the 2nd of January
1643, for an equipage of two coaches, four or six horses and eight or ten
attendants. On the arrival of the deputation at Uxbridge, on the 4th of
January, officers' of the Parliamentary army stopped the coaches and
searched the gentlemen; and they found upon' the latter "two scandalous
books arraigning the proceedings of the House," and letters with ciphers to
Lord Viscount Falkland and the Lord Spencer. Ultimately a joint order of
both Houses remanded the party; and Fuller and his friends suffered a brief
imprisonment. The Westminster Petition, notwithstanding, reached the king's
hands; and it was published with the royal reply (see J. E. Bailey, Life of
Thomas Fuller, pp. 245 el seq.). When it was expected, three months later,
that a favourable result would attend the negotiations at Oxford, Fuller
preached a sermon at Westminster Abbey, on the 27th of March 1643, on the
anniversary of Charles I.'s accession, on the text, "Yea, let him take all,
so my Lord the King return in peace." On Wednesday, the 26th of July, he
preached on church reformation, satirizing the religious reformers, and
maintaining that only the Supreme Power could initiate reforms.

He was now obliged to leave London, and in August 1643 he joined the king at
Oxford. He lived in a hired chamber at Lincoln College for 17 weeks. Thence
he put forth a witty and effective reply to John Saltmarsh, who had attacked
his views on ,ecclesiastical reform. Fuller subsequently published by royal
request a sermon preached on the 10th of May 1644, at St Mary's, Oxford,
before the king and Prince Charles, called Jacob's Vow.

The spirit of Fuller's preaching, always characterized by calm' ness and
moderation, gave offence to the high royalists, whc charged him with
lukewarmness in their cause. To siIenc~ unjtfst censures he became chaplain
to the regiment of Sii Ralph Hopton. For the first five years of the war, as
he said when excusing the non-appearance of his Church History, "] had
little list or leisure to write, fearing to be made a history, an shifting
daily for my safety. All that time I could not live t study, who did only
study to live." After the defeat of Hoptoi at Cheriton Down, Fuller
retreated to Basing House. He too] i an active part in its defence, and his
life with the troops cause~ 1 him to be afterwards regarded as one of "the
great cavalie parsons." In his marches with his regiment round about Dxl or
and in the west, he devoted much time to the collection of detaili from
churches, old buildings, and the conversation of ancientgossips, for his
Church-History and Worthies of England. He compiled in 1645 a small volume
of prayers and meditations,- the Good Thoughts in Bad Times,-which, set up
and printed in the besieged city of Exeter, whither he had retired, was
calledby himself "the first fruits of Exeter press." It was inscribed to
Lady Dalkeith, governess to the infant princess, Henrietta Anne(b. 1644), to
whose household he was attached as chaplain. Thecorporation gave him the
Bodleian lectureship on the 21st of March 1645/6, and he held it until the
I7th of June following,soon after the surrender of the city to the
parliament. The Fear of losing life Old Light (1646) was his farewell
discourse to his Exeter friends. Under the Articles of Surrender Fuller made
hiscomposition with the government at London, his "delinquency" being that
he had been present in the king's garrisons. InA ndronicus, or the
Unfortunate Politician (1646), partly authentic and partly fictitious, he
satirized the leaders of the Revolution;and for the comfort of sufferers by
the war he issued (1647) a second devotional manual, entitled Good Thoughts
in Worse Times, abounding in fervent aspirations, and drawing moral lessons
in beautPful language out of the events of his life or thecircumstances of
the time. In grief over his losses, which includedhis flbrary and
manuscripts (his" upper and nether millstone "), and over the calamities of
the country, he wrote his work on the Cause and Cure of a Wounded Conscience
(1647). It was prepared at Boughton House in his native county, where he
a~ndhis son were entertained by Edward Lord Montagu, who hadbeen one of his
contemporaries at the university and had takenthe side of the parliament.For
the next few years of his life Fuller was mainly dependentupon his dealings
with booksellers, of whom he asserted thatnone had ever lost by him. He made
considerable progress inan English translation from the MS. of the Annales
of his friend Archbishop Ussber. Amongst his benefactors it is curious
tofind Sir John Danvers of Chelsea, the regicide. Fuller in 1647began to
preach at St Clement's, Eastcheap, and elsewherein the capacity of lecturer.
While at St Clement's he wassuspended; but speedily recovering his freedom,
he preachedwherever he was invited. At Chelsea, where also he
occasionallyofficiated, he covertly preached a sermon on the death of
CharlesI., but he did not break with his Roundhead patrons. JamesHay, 2nd
earl of Carlisle, made him his chaplain, and presentedhim in 1648 or 1649 to
the curacy of Waltham Abbey. His possession of the living was in jeopardy on
the appointment ofCromwell's "Tryers "; but he evaded their inquisitorial
ques- tions by his ready wit. He was not disturbed at Waltham in1655, when
the Protector's edict prohibited the adherents ofthe late king from
preaching. Lionel, 3rd earl of Middlesex,who lived at Copt Hall, near
Waltham, gave him what remainedof the books of the lord treasurer his
father; and through thegood offices of the marchioness of Hertford, part of
his ownpillaged library was restored to him. Fuller was thus able
toprosecute his literary labours, producing successively his descrip-tive
geography of the Holy Land, called A P'isgah-Sight of Palestine (1650), and
his Church-History of Britain (1655), from the birth of Jesus Christ until
the year 1648. With the Church- History was printed The History of the
University of Cambridge since the Conquest and The History of Waltham A
bbey. These works were furthered in no slight degree by his connexion
withSion College, London, where he had a chamber, as well forthe convenience
of the press as of his city lectureships. TheChurch-History was angrily
attacked by Dr P. Heylyn, who, in the spirit of High-Churchmanship, wished,
as he said, to vindicatethe truth, the church and the injured clergy. About
1652 Fuller married his second wife, Mary Roper, youngest sister of Thomas,
Viscount Baltinglass, by whom ~he had several children.At the Oxford Act of
1657, Robert South, who was Terrae filius, lampooned Fuller, whom he
described in this Oratio as living in London, ever scribbling and each year
bringing forth new[olia like a tree. At length, continues South, the
Church-History came forth with its 166 dedications to wealthy and noble
friends; and with this huge voiume under one arm, and his wife (said tobe
little of stature) on the other, he ran up and down the streetsof London,
seeking at the houses of his patrons invitations todinner, to be repaid by
his dull jests at table.His last and best patron was George Berkeley, 1st
Earl Berkeley (1628-1698), of Cranford House, Middlesex, whose chaplain
hewas, and who gave him Cranford rectory (1658). To this noble- man Fuller's
reply to Heylyn's Examen Historicum, called The Appeal of Injured Innocence
(1659), was inscribed. At the end of the Appeal is an epistle "to my loving
friend Dr Peter Heylyn," conceived in the admirable Christian spirit which
characterizedall Fuller's dealings with controversialists. "Why should
Peter," he asked, "fall out with Thomas, both being disciples to the same
Lord and Master? I assure you, sir, whatever youconceive to the contrary, I
am cordial to the cause of the EnglishChurch, and my hoary hairs will go
down to the grave in sorrowfor her sufferings."In An Alarum to the Counties
of England and Wales (1660) Fuller argued f or a free and full
parliament--free from force, as he expressed it, as well as from abjurations
or previousengagements. Mixt Contemplations in Better Times (1660),
dedicated to Lady Monk, tendered advice in the spirit of its motto, "Let
your moderation be known to all men: the Lordis at hand." There is good
reason to suppose that Fuller was atthe Hague immediately before the
Restoration, in the retinueof Lord Berkeley, one of the commissioners of the
House ofLords, whose last service to his friend was to interest himself
inobtaining him a bishopric. A Panegyrick to His Majesty on his Flappy
Return was the last of Fuller~s verse-efforts. On the 2nd of August, by
royal letters, he was admitted D.D. at Cam-bridge. He resumed his lectures
at the Savoy, where SamuelPepys heard him preach; but he preferred his
conversation orhis books to his sermons. Fuller's last promotion was that
ofchaplain in extraordinary to Charles II. In the summer of 1661he visited
the west in connexion with the business of his prebend,which had been
restored to him. On Sunday, the 12th of August, while preaching at the
Savoy, be was seized with typhus fever,and died at his new lodgings in
Covent Garden on the 16th ofAugust. He was buried in Cranford church, where
a muraltablet was afterwards set up on the north side of the chancel,with an
epitaph which con.tains a conceit worthy of his own pen,to the effect that
while he was endeavouring (viz, in. The Worthies) to give immortality to
others, he himself attained it. Fuller's wit and vivacious good-humour made
him, a favouritewith men of both sides, and his sense of humour kept him
fromextremes. Probably Heylyn and South had some excuse fortheir attitude
towards his very moderate politics. " By his particular temper and
management," said Echard (fist, of England, iii. 7'), "he weathered the late
great storm with more success than many other great men.." He was known as
"aperfect walking library." The strength of his memory wasproverbial, and
some amusing anecdotes are connected with it.His writings were the product
of a highly original mind. Hehad a fertile imagination and a happy faculty
of illustration.Antithetic and axiomatic sentences abound in his pages,
embody-ing literally the wisdom of the many in the wit of one. He
 wasquaint," and something more. "Wit," said Coleridge, in awell-known
eulogy, "was the stuff and substance of Fuller'sintelleCt. It was the
element, the earthen base, the materialwhich he worked in; and this very
circumstance has defraudedhim of his due praise for the practical wisdom of
the thoughts,for the beauty arid variety of the truths, into which he
shapedthe stuff. Fuller was incomparably the most sensible, the
leastprejudiced, great man of an age that boasted a galaxy of greatmen"
(Literary Remains, vol. ii. (1836), pp. 389-390). This opinion was formed
after the perusal of the Church-History. That work and The History of the
Worthies of England are unquestionably Fuller's greatest efforts. They
embody thecollections of an entire life; and since his day they have beenthe
delight of many readers. The Holy State has taken rank amongst the best
books of "characters." Charles Lamb madesome selections from Fuller, and had
a profound admiration forthe "golden works " of the " dear, fine, silly old
angel." Since Lamb's time, mainly through the appreciative criticisms of S.
T. Coleridge, Robert Southey and others, Fuller's works have received much
attention. There is an elaborate account of the life and writings of Fuller
by William Oldys in the Biographia Britannica, vol. iii. (f 750), based on
Fuller's own works and the anonymous Life of . . - Dr Thomas Fuller (1661;
reprinted in a volume of selections by A. L. J. Gosset, 1893). The
completest account of him is The Life of Thomas Fuller, with Notices of his
Books, his Kinsmen and his Friends (1874), by J. E. Bailey, who gives a
detailed bibliography (pp. 713-762) of his works. The Worthies of England
was reprinted by John Nichols (1811) and by P. A. Nuttall (1840). His
Collected Sermons were edited by J. E. Bailey and W. E. A. Axon in 1891.
Fuller's quaint wit lends itself to selection, and there are several modern
volumes of extracts from his works.>>
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> > "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> >
> >> It appears that Art has very cleverly concealed a number of words and
> >> names in this array.  For example, in the first column, reading down, one
> >> finds "OPIE" -- a clear reference to the character played by Ron Howard:
> >>
> >>   O WORKS
> >>   P RIMAR
> >>   I LYONM
> >>   E ASURI
> >>
> >> Hauntingly enough, Art has mentioned "Opie" in two posts to this forum
> >> this year.  Coincidence?
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >    Isolated four letter words are a dime a dozen, Terry; (even if
> >    limited to proper names I have mentioned in my 12K posts).
"Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote

 
> Art, you are the one who put those isolated four-letter words there in the
> first place; your motive for doing so is not clear, but nobody can doubt
> your responsibility for every one of those words.  All I did was take the
> letters from your profile and uncover the words that you had hidden.
 
  Somehow I neglected to put in:
        "VERE" or "UERE" or "VERO" or "UERO". 

> > "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> >
> >>   AP H YSI
> >>   CI S TWH
> >>   OW O RKS
> >>   PR I MAR
> >>
> >> Most impressively of all, we can also find "SHADAI" -- one of God's names
> >> -- reading upwards in the same column:
> >>
> >>   EH I KIN
> >>   GM A RYL
> >>   AN D PGI
> >>   AM A NOA
> >>   AP H YSI
> >>   CI S TWH
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > http://www.hillel.org/Hillel/NewHille.nsf/0/ee2cb0cea8a5b3508525693f00557a2f?OpenDocument
> >
> > <<What does "I am El Shadai" (Genesis 35:11) mean?
> > [It means,] "I am He who said to the world, 'Enough!' ">>
> >
> >      Sure doen't sound like me, Terry; but I'll concede
> >         that this one is, at least, interesting. ;-)
>
> Art, of COURSE it doesn't "sound like you."  One of the ways G_d is
> honored is by NOT mentioning his name.  Here you have it both ways.  While
> "Shadai" never appeared in your posts before, you DID arrange for it to be
> found in the same array as Opie and Josh.  The profundity and sublimity of
> your religiosity leaves me breathless.
 
       I admit to being impressed by "SHADAI" & "HERNE"
 
       If I had found these in the ROLLETT array
     I surely would have noted them as possible clues.

> > "Terry Ross" <tr...@bcpl.net> wrote":
> >
> >> The arrays created from Art's profile may be found here:
> >> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray1.html
> >>
> >> It is easier to search the arrays for words if the columns have been
> >> rotated so they may be read left-to-right rather than up and down:
> >> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artarray2.html
> >>
> >> I have found hundreds of words and names that are 4 or more letters long
> >> in the arrays of the letters of Art's profile:
> >> http://shakespeareauthorship.com/artwds1.html
> >>
> >> I leave it to Art to explain why he hid
> >> so many words and names in his profile.
> > ------------------------------------------------------
>
> >  And I'll leave it to Terry why to explain why he doesn't create a link
> > to his actual study of Rollett's Sonnets dedication...which, unlike
> > Neufer's bio, doesn't make any real sense
> >  as plane text (with or without the punctuation.)
>
> The reasons are that "my actual study of Rollett" has not been put into
> shape and that Rollett himself now thinks that "chance cannot be ruled
> out" as an explanation for what he thought he found.
 I think your study here is sufficient to show that something like:
 
"HEN - RY  WRI - OT - HES - LEY" can often be found
            in something like 6 pieces over 4 arrays
 
     However, Rollett's 4 pieces over 2 arrays
"HENRY WR - IOTH - ESLEY" is still impressive.
---------------------------------------------------

> > http://shakespeareauthorship.com/wds1.html
> >
> >   (I'll also leave it to Terry why to explain
> >  why he should go to all that effort on my bio.)
>
> What effort?  I grabbed a short sample of text and ran it through the same
> processes that I used on the dedication; I used the same simple perl
> scripts.  I have also done the same on a sample text from Rollett
> himself, and guess what -- he also hid hundreds of words and names that
> are 4- or more letters long in the arrays that were formed from his own
> sentence.
 Are you going to discuss one of these cases in Baltimore on Oct. 8th.?
 
> > I won't bother with discussing isolated 4 letter words (for reasons
> > stated above) except to note that there are no four letter words
> >    independently repeated in any of the Neufer arrays.
>
> These words are repeated in the set of arrays: AJIT, AMEN, ANNA, APII,
> ARAR, ARRI, CAIR, CROH, ERAS, ESSE, GRAN, GRIP, HAJJ, HAMI, HEII, IARE
> (twice!), IATA, IENE (twice!), INRI, IRRA, JAMI, JARI, JASE, JINS, JORS
> (twice!), JOSI, KATI, MITE, MORT, NAHA, NASA, NEMA, NERT, OJAI (twice!),
> ORJI, RARA, RINA, RIOS, RIPT, RISE, RIVI, ROJI (thrice!), SARE, SASS,
> SATO, SION, SLON, SOIR, SSAS, TANE, VINO, VOIR, WISP.
                           So what?

> > This fact makes the repeated "NILE" in the Rollett array
> >               that much more interesting:

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                   NEUFER set:
-------------------------------------------------
         ARTHUR_______C _  NEUENDORFFER
         PHYSIC___________ISTAUTHORSHIP
         ISSUE_____ H ___ IKINGMARYLAND
         PGIAM___   A ___ NOAAPHYSICIST
         WHOWO      R _ K_ SPRIMARILYON
         MEASU__    R __I_ NGOZONEIMMAR
         RIEDW___   I___T_ HTHREEGROWNC
         HILDR___-  E ____NANDONECOCKER
         SPANI___________ EL
-------------------------------------------------
1 6-letter Word of Shakespearean character:
       HARRIE:1906d
 
1 Independent 4-letter words that appear in 4 or more arrays:
 
  ROJI:0806d   ROJI:1515d   ROJI:2706d   ROJI:3306u
 
ROJI: Japanesse garden through which you reach the tea-house??
--------------------------------------------------------------
        However... the NEUFER set contains:
--------------------------------------------------------------
NO Independent 4-letter words that appear twice in the same array
 
     and NO Vere/Uere/Vero/Uero's
 
Whereas the Rollett set contains both (and all in the same array!):
-----------------------------------------------------------
     NILE:1907d   VERE:1909u  NILE:1914d
--------------------------------------------------------
                               <= 19 =>
 
__       tOTHEo N L i E    BE G ETTERO
__       FTHESE I n S     UIN G SONNET
__       SMrwha L L  H  a PPI N ESSEA
__       NDTHat E  T  E r NIT I EPROM
__       ISEDB Y  O u R e Ver L IVING
__       POETw  I SH  E t HTh E WELLW
__       ISHIN G A  d V e NTu  ReRINS
__       EtTIN G      fortH    Tt
----------------------------------------------------

   Making a random selection of letters surrounding the
 deVERE/arete pattern given:  13 N's, 14 I's, 6 L's, & 19 E's
      And ~2,900 possible placements for a bracketing NILE pair.
 
Chance of a NILE pair bracketing the deVERE/arete pattern ~ 1/100,000
---------------------------------------------------------------
                        CRATYLUS by Plato
 
<<[SOCRATES to Hermogenes]: arete signifying in the 1st place
    ease of motion, then that the STREAM of the good soul is unimpeded,
           and has therefore the attribute of EVER FLOWING without
            let or hindrance, and is therefore called arete,
             or, more correctly, aeireite (EVER FLOWING)>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lgboyd/chapter5.htm
 
<<The deVERES were an ancient dynastic family seated at their ancestral

     village of VER (from which they took their name), near Bayeaux and
the River VIRE, in MANCHE on the Normandy coast of present-day northern
   France. The name of the town itself came from the "VER," a Norse word
    meaning "FISHDAM" that the Vikings had introduced into Normandy.>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
          Antony and Cleopatra   Act 1, Scene 5
 
CLEOPATRA:   'Where's my serpent of old NILE?'
 
                 Act 2, Scene 5
 
CLEOPATRA:    Melt Egypt into NILE!
 
                 Act 2, Scene 7
 
MARK ANTONY     [To OCTAVIUS CAESAR]
         Thus do they, sir: they take the flow o' the NILE
         By certain scales i' the pyramid; they know,
         By the height, the lowness, or the mean, if dearth
         Or foison follow: the higher NILUS swells,

         The more it promises: as it ebbs, the seedsman
         Upon the slime and ooze scatters his grain,
         And shortly comes to harvest.
 
                 Act 5, Scene 2
 
First Guard   This is an aspic's trail: and these fig-leaves
               Have slime upon them, such as the aspic leaves
               Upon the CAVES of NILE.
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<<St. Anthony found God on the abrupt & rocky banks of the NILE,
  where burning stones take possession of flowers before they bloom.
  Fleeing the agony of a corrupt and crumbling world, he sought in
  silence and poverty to hear the whispers of the divine presence,
   to make the sand & flagstones flourish with spiritual flowers.>>

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       St. Anthony died on Mount Kolzim, January 17, 356.
 
      <<On [January 17] in the age of Queen Elizabeth,
           a sick PIG would be led to the DUNG-HEAP
            and was not allowed to be slaughtered.>>
 
  <<John Chamberlain says in a letter of  January 17, 1599:
     "SPENCER our principall poet coming out of Ireland
         died at Westminster on Satterday last.">>  -- Terry Ross
-----------------------------------------------------------------
___________  Stratford Church Register marriage entry:

January 17, 1579:
   "William WILLSONNE and Anne HATHAWAY of Shotterye."
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                 Cymbeline  Act 3, Scene 4
 
PISANIO: What shall I need to draw my sword? the paper

         Hath cut her throat already. No, 'tis slander,
         Whose edge is sharper than the sword, whose tongue
         Outvenoms all the WORMS of NILE, whose breath

         Rides on the posting winds and doth belie
         All corners of the world: kings, queens and states,
         Maids, matrons, nay, the secrets of the grave
         This viperous slander enters. What cheer, madam?
------------------------------------------------------------
         Le Morte de Arthur - Malory, Sir Thomas
 
Also the drye TREE and the whyte LYLYe the drye TREE
 bitokeneth thy broder Lyonel whiche is drye withoute vertue
 and therfore many men oughte to calle hym the rotten TREE
    and the WORME ETEN TREE for he is a murtherer
       and doth contrary to the ordre of knyghthode
              .  .  .  .  .  .
        he had another vysyon: hym thoughte
that he came to a grete place whiche semed a chappel
there he fonde a chayer sette on the lyfte syde whiche
 
             was WORME ETEN and FEBLE
 
 And on the ryghte hand were two floures lyke a LYLYe
   and the one wold haue benome the others whytnes
----------------------------------------------------------
      Also the Rollett set contains:
----------------------------------------------------------
1 6-letter Words of Shakespearean character:
 
        FEEBLE:0302u
 
1 Independent 4-letter words that appear in 4 or more arrays:
 
 ETEN:0404d  ETEN:0404u  ETEN:1005d  ETEN:1508d  ETEN:2810d
---------------------------------------------------------------
  RGTSRVEAIILEHHWONIERYEMPTREHNS/N/PLHMEONSEHOTG             ENHT
_   TFIEIRNDNSLWTEIEGVREODIRINTAD/E/EPHARTNGVIE   [F E E B L E]   O
  HONTNETVGHWEHTSTPILVVBSOEIET/T/ASIALWSNSINSTRT             EIOT
 
  RGTSRVEAIILEHHWONIERYEMPTR/E/HNSNPLHMEONSEHOTG             ENHT
__  TFIEIRNDNSLWTEIEGVREODIRI/N/TADEEPHARTNGVIE   [F E E B L E]   O
  HONTNETVGHWEHTSTPILVVBS[OE]IETTASIALWSNSINSTRT             EIOT
---------------------------------------------------------------
   Canterbury Tales - Chaucer  THE PROLOGUE TO THE COKES TALE.
 
      "Now telle on, ROGER, looke that it be good,
       For many a pastee hastow laten blood,
       And many a Jakke of *DoVERE* hastow soold
       That hath been twies hoot and twies cold.
       Of many a pilgrim hastow Cristes curs,
       For of thy percely yet they fare the wors,
       That they haN *E T E N* with thy stubbel-goos,
 -----------------------------------------------------------
                           Sonnet FOUR

Nature's bequest gives nothing but doth lend,
And being *FRANK* she lends to those are *FREE*.
----------------------------------------------------------
 "E.O." & "FREE" [ = "FRANK / FRANCIS"]
 "E.O." & "FEEBLE":
---------------------------------------------------
 ----------            T {O}.
---------            TH [E].
  ------            ONLI [E].
                 BEGETTE [R].
---------             O [F].
.
____                    T  {O}
__--                  T H  [E]
__-                   O N  [L]
____                  I E  [B]
__--                  E G  [E]
__---                 T T  [E]
__                    R O  [F
--------------------------------------------------
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                   NEUFER set:
-------------------------------------------------
         ARTHUR_______C _  NEUENDORFFER
         PHYSIC___________ISTAUTHORSHIP
         ISSUE_____ H ___ IKINGMARYLAND
         PGIAM___   A ___ NOAAPHYSICIST
         WHOWO      R _ K_ SPRIMARILYON
         MEASU__    R __I_ NGOZONEIMMAR
         RIEDW___   I___T_ HTHREEGROWNC
         HILDR___-  E ____NANDONECOCKER
         SPANI___________ EL
-------------------------------------------------
1 6-letter Word of Shakespearean character:
       HARRIE:1906d
 
1 Independent 4-letter words that appear in 4 or more arrays:
 
  ROJI:0806d   ROJI:1515d   ROJI:2706d   ROJI:3306u
 
ROJI: Japanese garden through which you reach the tea-house??
 -----------------------------------------------------------
                           Sonnet FOUR

Nature's bequest gives nothing but doth lend,
And being *FRANK* she lends to those are *FREE*.
----------------------------------------------------------
 "E.O." & "FREE" [ = "FRANK / FRANCIS"]
 "E.O." & "FEEBLE":
---------------------------------------------------
 ----------            T {O}.
---------            TH [E].
  ------            ONLI [E].
                 BEGETTE [R].
---------             O [F].
.
____                    T  {O}
__--                  T H  [E]
__-                   O N  [L]
____                  I E  [B]
__--                  E G  [E]
__---                 T T  [E]
__                    R O  [F
--------------------------------------------------
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