Is there no tryacle in Gilead?
Art Neuendorffer
http://www.gilanet.com/jrservice/biblef.html
A) The Bug Bible, 1551, printed Ps. 91:5,
"Thou shalt not be afraid of bugs by night."
B) The Breeches Bible, 1560, printed Gen. 3:7,
"make themselves breeches."
C) The Placemakers' Bible, 1562, printed Matt. 5:9,
"Blessed are the placemakers."
D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
"Is there no treacle in Gilead?"
E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
"Is there no rosin in Gilead?"
F) The Vinegar Bible, 1717, called the parable of
Luke 20:9-16 " the Parable of the Vinegar."
G) The Printers' Bible, 1702, printed Ps. 119:161,
"Printers have persecuted me."
H) The Murderers' Bible, 1801, printed Jude 16,
"These are murderers, complainers."
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_Finnegans Wake_ -- "Bigamy Bob and his old Shanvocht!
The Blackfriars treacle plaster outrage be liddled!"
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'Once upon a time there were three little sisters,' the Dormouse
began in a great hurry; 'and their names were Elsie, Lacie, and
Tillie; and they lived at the bottom of a well--'
'What did they live on?' said Alice, who always took a great
interest in questions of eating and drinking.
'They lived on treacle,' said the Dormouse, after thinking a
minute or two.
'They couldn't have done that, you know,' Alice gently remarked;
'they'd have been ill.'
'So they were,' said the Dormouse; ' very ill.'
Alice tried to fancy to herself what such an extraordinary ways
of living would be like, but it puzzled her too much, so she went
on: 'But why did they live at the bottom of a well?'
'Take some more tea,' the March Hare said to Alice, very
earnestly.
'I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, 'so I
can't take more.'
'You mean you can't take less ,' said the Hatter: 'it's
very easy to take more than nothing.'
'Nobody asked your opinion,' said Alice.
'Who's making personal remarks now?' the Hatter asked
triumphantly.
Alice did not quite know what to say to this: so she helped
herself to some tea and bread-and-butter, and then turned to the
Dormouse, and repeated her question. 'Why did they live at the
bottom of a well?'
The Dormouse again took a minute or two to think about it, and
then said, 'It was a treacle-well.'
'There's no such thing!' Alice was beginning very angrily, but
the Hatter and the March Hare went 'Sh! sh!' and the Dormouse
sulkily remarked, 'If you can't be civil, you'd better finish the
story for yourself.'
'No, please go on!' Alice said very humbly; 'I won't interrupt
again. I dare say there may be one .'
'One, indeed!' said the Dormouse indignantly. However, he
consented to go on. 'And so these three little sisters--they were
learning to draw, you know--'
'What did they draw?' said Alice, quite forgetting her
promise.
'Treacle,' said the Dormouse, without considering at all this
time.
'I want a clean cup,' interrupted the Hatter: 'let's all move one
place on.'
He moved on as he spoke, and the Dormouse followed him: the March
Hare moved into the Dormouse's place, and Alice rather
unwillingly took the place of the March Hare. The Hatter was the
only one who got any advantage from the change: and Alice was a
good deal worse off than before, as the March Hare had just upset
the milk-jug into his plate.
Alice did not wish to offend the Dormouse again, so she began
very cautiously: 'But I don't understand. Where did they draw the
treacle from?'
'You can draw water out of a water-well,' said the Hatter; 'so I
should think you could draw treacle out of a treacle-well--eh,
stupid?'
'But they were in the well,' Alice said to the Dormouse,
not choosing to notice this last remark.
'Of course they were', said the Dormouse; '--well in.'
This answer so confused poor Alice, that she let the Dormouse go
on for some time without interrupting it.
'They were learning to draw,' the Dormouse went on, yawning and
rubbing its eyes, for it was getting very sleepy; 'and they drew
all manner of things--everything that begins with an M--'
'Why with an M?' said Alice.
'Why not?' said the March Hare.
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PREFACE to the BISHOP'S BIBLE by Matthew Parker
http://www.gospelcom.net/chi/HERITAGF/Issuenos/chl043.shtml
http://www.gospelcom.net/chi/HERITAGF/Issuenos/chl043p.shtml
PARKER, MATTHEW (1504-75), Archbishop of Canterbury was educated at
Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, where he was elected a Fellow in
1527. Parker identified himself with moderate reformers. Under Henry
VIII and Edward VI he received several preferments, and in the later
reign took advantage of the permission to the clergy to marry. Under the
Catholic Queen Mary he was deprived of his preferments, and lived in
obscurity until 1559, when Elizabeth I chose him to fill the vacancy for
Archbishop of Canterbury. He accepted the post with much reluctance and
was consecrated at Lambeth Palace on 17 December 1559 by four bishops
who had held sees in Edward VI's reign.
As archbishop, he took part in the issue of the Thirty-Nine Articles
and of the Bishops' Bible, both intended to hold the "old" line, and
published in 1566 his 'Advertisements' on ritual matters, which
commanded the use of the surplice. Henceforward he had to face
considerable opposition from the Puritan party, which embodied its aims
in the Admonition to Parliament (1572). Parker was a wise and tolerant,
though hardly a forceful, archbishop, preferring scholarship to
controversy. He issued editions of the works of many medieval
chroniclers, among them Matthew of Westminster (1567-70), Matthew Paris
(1571) and Thomas of Walsingham (1574). The most considerable of his own
writings was his De Antiquitate Britannicae Ecclesiae et Privilegiis
Ecclesiae Cantuariensis cum Archiepiscopis eius lxx (1572). A large
collection of the MSS, collected by or for him survives in the library
of his college at Cambridge.
FIRST BIBLE PRODUCED DIRECTLY UNDER AUSPICES OF THE ENGLISH BISHOPS
1573 EDITION OF BISHOPS' BIBLE
(The Bishop's Committee's revision of the Great Bible to counter the
popular and controversial Geneva Bible)
The Bishops' Bible, also called the "Treacle Bible," was first issued
in 1568. Numerous editions followed. This Bible represented the first
efforts of the Church to put forth a Bible after the suppression of the
sacred book during the troublesome times of the previous thirty years
when many translators met a martyr's death.
It was the official version comprising a revision of the Great Bible by
Matthew Parker, Archbishop of Canterbury, with the assistance of eight
other bishops. At the convocation of the Province of Canterbury which
met on April 3d, 1571, it was ordered that this Bible should be placed
in every cathedral, and that every archbishop, bishop, dean, and other
church dignitary should have a copy publicly exposed in the hall or
dining room of his home for the use of his servants and strangers.
The first edition of this Bible was printed by Richard Jugge in large
folio size and black letters. The title page is composed chiefly of a
large woodcut with a picture of Queen Elizabeth in an oval in the
centre. At the top of the page are merely the words:
The holie Bible
Conteynyng the olde
Testament and the newe.
Following the title page are "The summe of the whole scripture" 2
pages, and a table of "genealogie" 11 pages. Another table 2 pages, and
"Proper lessons for Sundays" 2 pages; "Proper psalms"; "The order howe"
to read; "a briefe declaration," an Almanacke, and another table of
psalms, occupying 12 pages. Parker's preface 6 pages and Cranmer's
prologue of 5 pages follow.
The text starts on folio i and ends cxxviii. The second title page
before the new Testament is similar to the first except the portrait of
Queen Elizabeth is omitted and in the oval is printed: "The newe
Testament of our Saviour Jesus Christe." There are 57 lines to a full
page.
This Bible is sometimes called the "treacle" Bible from Jeremiah
viii-22, which reads: "Is there no tryacle in Gilead?" This line is
rendered “rosin” in the Douai version, and in the authorized version of
1611 is changed to "balm."
The Bishop's Bible is a large, well printed book and had a wide
circulation.
The new Testament, so called, conteynyng the writinges of the
Evangelistes, with the Epistles of Christes Apostles, and with other
suche divine bookes, declare playnely unto us the summe and effect of
all the scriptures expressed in the olde Testament. That whiche was in
figure and in obscuritie involved by the patriarkes and prophetes in
their propheticall volumes, written by the inspiration of the holy
ghost: is in this booke more playnely and evidently set out, uttered
also in the selfe same spirite by the chyldren of the prophets, the holy
Apostles. In deede the lawe was geven by Moses, but grace and veritie
came by Jesus Christ, which grace this booke of the newe Testament doth
most evidently commende and set out. In this discoursed the whole
mysterie of our salvation and redemption, purchased by our savior
Christe, here is his holy conception described, his nativitie, his
circumcision, his whole lyfe and conversation, his godly doctrine, his
divine miracles. In this booke of the newe Testament is set out his
death, his resurrection, his assention, his sending of the holy spirite,
his session in our flesh on the ryght hande of his father, making
continual intercession to him for us. In this booke is conteyned the
fourme and order of his last judgement, after the general resurrection
of our bodies. These be the mysteries of our fayth, these be the grounds
of our salvation, these be thus written that we shoulde beleeve them,
and by our beleefe should enjoy lyfe everlastyng. Once and in tymes past
God diversly and manye wayes spake unto the fathers by the prophets, but
in these last dayes he hath spoken unto us (upon whom the endes of the
worlde be come) by his owne sonne, whom he hath made heirs of al
thynges, whose dignitie is suche, that he is the brightnesse of his
fathers glory, the very image of his substance, rulyng al thynges by the
word of his power.
This heavenly doctour so indued with glory and majestie, we ought most
reverently to beleeve, as commended unto us from the auothoritie of the
heavenly father, to be heard as his most welbeloved sonne, in whom is
his whole delight, by whom he wyl be pleased and pacified: It wyll els
come to passe, saith that prophete Moses, that whosoever shal not heare
and obey that prophete in the wordes that he shall speake in his fathers
name, I wyll be, saith the father revenger of hym. This is the last
prophete to be looked for to speake unto us: In hym be universally
inclosed the riches and treasures of the wisdome and knowledge of GOD
his father, by him he hath decreed finally to judge the whole world, the
living and the dead: by him hath he decreed to geve to his elect the
life everlasting, and to the reprobate (who hath condemned his lyfe and
doctrine) death everlasting. Let us therefore seriously heare and obey
this our heavenly teacher, submit our selves to this our judge and
rewarder: Let us esteeme his doctrine and conversations, as a ful,
perfect, and sufficient patterne of al holinesse and vertue: Let us
esteeme the doctrine of this booke, as a most inflexible rule to leade
us to al trueth and newnesse of lyfe.
Here may we beholde the eternal legacies of the newe Testament,
bequeathed from God the father in Christe his sonne to all his electes,
I say, the legacies linely renewed unto us. Not of deliverance from
Pharao his servitude, but from the bondages and thraldome of that
perpetuall adversarie of ours the devil: here may we behold our
inheritaunce, not of the temporal land of chanaan, or of the translation
of us to the place of worldly paradise: but here we may see the ful
restitution of us both in body and soule, to the celestial paradise, the
heavenly citie of hierusalem above, there to raigne with God the father,
God the sonne, and God the Holy ghost for ever. Which legacies of this
Testament promised and bequeathed, were notwithstandyng recorded in the
bookes of the olde Testament to our auncient fathers, which in hope
beleeved in Christ to come, who was paynted before them in figures and
shadowes, and signified in their old sacramentes ordeined for that time:
but now more evidently renewed and exhibited unto us, not in figure, but
in deede, not in promise, but in open sight, in feeling, in handling,
and touchyng of this eternal lyfe, most manifestly confirmed unto us in
Christ his blood in this his newe Testament continued and revived, yet
in new sacraments, the better to beare in our remembraunce this his
eternal Testament of al joyful felicities.Let us nowe therefore good
christian people, rejoyce in these glad tidinges expressed unto us by
the name of the gospell of our saviour Jesus Christ, and let it never
fal out of our remembrance that we were sometyme over whelmed in
darknesse, and set in the shadow of death: let us consyder that we were
former tymes by our natural birth the chyldren of God his wrath, and
wholy estranged from the houshold of God. Let us beare________ that we
were sometyme no people of God, no his beloved, that we were by nature
braunches of the wilde olive. And now by mere mercy grafted into the
ryght and natural olive tree: whereupon let us the rather repose our
lyfe in feare and reverence. If we be now the chyldren of light, let us
walk in this our light in al holynesse and godlyness of lyfe, approving
that whiche is pleasing to the Lord. Let us have no fellowship with the
unfruitful workes of darknesse, and let us henceforth be no more
chyldren, waveryng and caried about with every winde of doctrine, and by
the deceipt and craftynesse of menne, whereby they lay in wayte to
deceave us: but let us followe the trueth in love and charitie, and in
al thinges grow up into hym which is the head, that is Christ our
saviour.
If we be now the children of grace, and made lively members of his
body, though sometime strangers and forreyners farre of, and made neare
by the blood of Christ, and made citizens with the saintes, and of the
householde of God: let us direct our heartes thyther where our head is,
delyting our selfe in all heavenly cogtations, walhyng in al spiritual
workes and fruites of the spirite, as Gods deare elect. God graunt that
Christe may so swel in our heartes by faith that we may be able to
comprehend with al saintes the unspeakable loce of Christe, which
passeth al mans knowledge. Unto hym therefore which is able to do
exceedyng aboundantly above all that we can aske or thinke, be prayse in
the Churche by Christe Jesus, throughout all generations for ever. Amen.
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Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
Alice took up the fan and gloves, and, as the hall was very hot,
she kept fanning herself all the time she went on talking: 'Dear,
dear! How queer everything is to-day! And yesterday things went
on just as usual. I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let
me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I
almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if
I'm not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
Ah, that's the great puzzle!' And she began thinking over
all the children she knew that were of the same age as herself,
to see if she could have been changed for any of them.
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> http://www.gilanet.com/jrservice/biblef.html
>
> A) The Bug Bible, 1551, printed Ps. 91:5,
> "Thou shalt not be afraid of bugs by night."
>
> B) The Breeches Bible, 1560, printed Gen. 3:7,
> "make themselves breeches."
>
> C) The Placemakers' Bible, 1562, printed Matt. 5:9,
> "Blessed are the placemakers."
>
> D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
> "Is there no treacle in Gilead?"
>
> E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
> "Is there no rosin in Gilead?"
>
> F) The Vinegar Bible, 1717, called the parable of
> Luke 20:9-16 " the Parable of the Vinegar."
>
> G) The Printers' Bible, 1702, printed Ps. 119:161,
> "Printers have persecuted me."
>
> H) The Murderers' Bible, 1801, printed Jude 16,
> "These are murderers, complainers."
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> _Finnegans Wake_ -- "Bigamy Bob and his old Shanvocht!
> The Blackfriars treacle plaster outrage be liddled!"
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never mentions bishops they can be seen clearly in one of Tenniel's
drawings. Isaac Asimov's mystery story "The Curious Omission" in his
_Tales of the Black Widow Spiders_, derives from Carroll's curious
omisssion of chess bishops.>>
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> PREFACE to the BISHOP'S BIBLE by Matthew Parker
> http://www.gospelcom.net/chi/HERITAGF/Issuenos/chl043.shtml
> http://www.gospelcom.net/chi/HERITAGF/Issuenos/chl043p.shtml
>
> PARKER, MATTHEW (1504-75), Archbishop of Canterbury was educated at
> Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, where he was elected a Fellow in
> 1527. Parker identified himself with moderate reformers. Under Henry
> VIII and Edward VI he received several preferments, and in the later
> reign took advantage of the permission to the clergy to marry. Under the
> Catholic Queen Mary he was deprived of his preferments, and lived in
> obscurity until 1559, when Elizabeth I chose him to fill the vacancy for
> Archbishop of Canterbury. He accepted the post with much reluctance and
> was consecrated at Lambeth Palace on 17 December 1559 by four bishops
> who had held sees in Edward VI's reign.
> FIRST BIBLE PRODUCED DIRECTLY UNDER AUSPICES OF THE ENGLISH BISHOPS
> If we be now the children of grace, and made lively members of his
Art Neuendorffer
The original Nosey Parker, Matthew Parker, was born [in Norwich]
on Aug.6 1504. As Archbishop of Canterbury under Elizabeth I,
he supervised the revision of Cranmer's 42 doctrinal articles
to produce the definitive 39 Articles of Religion
which defined the doctrine of the Church of England.
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> http://www.gilanet.com/jrservice/biblef.html
>
> A) The Bug Bible, 1551, printed Ps. 91:5,
> "Thou shalt not be afraid of bugs by night."
>
> B) The Breeches Bible, 1560, printed Gen. 3:7,
> "make themselves breeches."
>
> C) The Placemakers' Bible, 1562, printed Matt. 5:9,
> "Blessed are the placemakers."
>
> D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
> "Is there no treacle in Gilead?"
>
> E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
> "Is there no rosin in Gilead?"
>
> F) The Vinegar Bible, 1717, called the parable of
> Luke 20:9-16 " the Parable of the Vinegar."
>
> G) The Printers' Bible, 1702, printed Ps. 119:161,
> "Printers have persecuted me."
>
> H) The Murderers' Bible, 1801, printed Jude 16,
> "These are murderers, complainers."
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> _Finnegans Wake_ -- "Bigamy Bob and his old Shanvocht!
> The Blackfriars treacle plaster outrage be liddled!"
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Transfiguration(/OLD LAMMAS) Day August 6
"Nosey" Parker [Archb. of Cant.] born Aug.6, 1504
Thomas Trussell commits highway robbery Aug.6, 1585
Armada prevented from Dutch reinforcement Aug.6, 1588
Rutland released from Tower Aug.6, 1601
Anne Hathaway's death Aug.6, 1623
Ben Jonson's death Aug.6, 1637
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UNDER THE NAME OF SANDERS
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http://justus.anglican.org/resources/pc/orders/orders1.html
<<The fraudulent Nag’s Head Fable was not known until 1604 (about 45
years after the consecration and near 30 years after Parker’s death).
The fable was distinctly denied and repudiated in 1616 by the Earl of
Nottingham present at the actual consecration in 1559. Of this public
denial we have a record by the Rev. William Hampton, Rector of Worth:
"In the beginning of King James his reigne there came out a book
UNDER THE NAME OF SANDERS with the story of the Nagg’s head ordination.
This book was showed to King James and upon his reading of it
it stratled (sic) him.">>
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<<Once upon a time, a very long time ago now, about last Friday,
Winnie-the-Pooh lived in a forest all by himself
UNDER THE NAME OF SANDERS.
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Nag’s Head Helmet
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`She's MY prisoner, you know!' the Red Knight said at last.
`Yes, but then _I_ came and rescued her!' the White Knight
replied.
`Well, we must fight for her, then,' said the Red Knight, as he
took up his helmet (which hung from the saddle, and was something
the shape of a horse's head), and put it on.
`You will observe the Rules of Battle, of course?' the White
Knight remarked, putting on his helmet too.
`What a curious helmet you've got!' she said cheerfully.
`Is that your invention too?'
The Knight looked down proudly at his helmet, which hung from
the saddle. `Yes,' he said, `but I've invented a better one than
that--like a sugar loaf. When I used to wear it, if I fell off
the horse, it always touched the ground directly. So I had a
VERY little way to fall, you see--But there WAS the danger of
falling INTO it, to be sure. That happened to me once--and the
worst of it was, before I could get out again, the other White
Knight came and put it on. He thought it was his own helmet.'
The knight looked so solemn about it that Alice did not dare to
laugh. `I'm afraid you must have hurt him,' she said in a
trembling voice, `being on the top of his head.'
`I had to kick him, of course,' the Knight said, very seriously.
`And then he took the helmet off again--but it took hours and hours
to get me out. I was as fast as--as lightning, you know.'
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Art Neuendorffer
Elizabeth Weir
Art. I was just going to try to find something on the Bishop's Bible.
[I was wondering why Oxford used a Calvinist Geneva Bible when Oxford
wasn't a Calvinist].
I've been reading Dr. John Gill and Matthew Henry [17-18th c.
Dissident and Puritan Calvinists respectively] against the verses in
Oxford's Geneva Bible [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford] and
I've really been enjoying their writing. Henry was a very
warm-hearted writer. He's still popular today. Gill was essentially
self-taught, throughly mastered Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic--was
familiar with the Samarian and Persian texts--there are many John Gill
websites online, some searchable. Gill crosss-referenced each verse
and added intimidating footnotes on the classics and Hebrew apocrypha.
It's inbelievable what could be accomplished with a 17th century
brain.
Neuendorffer
> Art. I was just going to try to find something on the Bishop's Bible.
> [I was wondering why Oxford used a Calvinist Geneva Bible when Oxford
> wasn't a Calvinist].
Are you sure, Elizabeth?
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http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment2/ps1-18.htm
THE BOOK OF PSALMS BY JOHN CALVIN
THE EPISTLE DEDICATORY
[PREFIXED TO THE ORIGINAL TRANSLAT10N, 1571.]
To The Right Honorably And Verie Good Lord,
EDWARD DE VERE, ERLE OF OXINFORD,
Lord Great Chamberlain Of England, Vicount Bulbecke, Etc.
ARTHUR GOLDING
To the furtherance wherof, God hath by householde alyance lincked vnto
your Lordship a long experienced NESTOR, whose counsaile and footsteps
if you folowe, no doubte but you shalbee bothe happie in your selfe, and
singularly profitable to your common welth; and moreouer, God shall
blisse you with plentiful and godly issue by your vertuous and
deerbeloued Spouse, to continew the honor and renoavne of your noble
house after the happy knitting vp of bothe your yeeres, which I pray God
may bee many in vnseperable loue, like the loue of Ceix and Alcyonee,
to the glory of God, and the contentation of bothe your desires.
Written at London, the 20:of October 1571.
Your good Lordship’s moste humlble to commaund, Arthur Golding.
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The Geneva Bible: The Forgotten Translation
http://www.reformed.org/documents/geneva/Geneva.html
<<When Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) became queen of England in 1553, she was
determined to roll back the Reformation and reinstate Roman Catholicism.
Mary had strong ties to Catholic Spain. She married Philip II of Spain
and induced the English Parliament to recognize the authority of papal
Rome. Mary met with a great deal of resistance from Protestant reformers
in her own country. Mary showed no signs of compromise. The persecution
of Protestants followed.
The era known as the Marian Exile drove hundreds of English scholars to
the Continent with little hope of ever seeing their home and friends
again. God used this exodus experience to advance the Reformation. A
number of English Protestant divines settled in Calvin's Geneva: Miles
Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the
protection of the Genevan civil authorities and the support of John
Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, the Church of Geneva
determined to produce an English Bible without the need for the
imprimatur of either England or Rome - the Geneva Bible.>>
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5) No Knight of this Order shall be armed for the safeguard of his
countenance with a pike in his mouth in the nature of a tooth-picker, or
with any weapon in his hand, be it stick, plume, wand, or any such-like:
Neither shall he draw out of his pocket any book or paper, to read, for
the same intent; neither shall he retain any extraordinary shrug, nod,
or any familiar motion or gesture, to the same end; for his Highness of
his gracious clemency is disposed to lend his countenance to all such
Knights as are out of countenance.
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ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
SAMPSON I do bite my thumb, sir.
ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
SAMPSON [Aside to GREGORY] Is the law of our side, if I say ay?
GREGORY No.
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7) No Knight of this Order shall lay to pawn his Collar of Knighthood
for an hundred pounds; and if he do, he shall be 'ipso facto'
discharged; and it shall be lawful for any man whatsoever that will
retain the same Collar for the sum aforesaid, forthwith to take upon him
the said Knighthood, by reason of a secret virtue in the Collar; for in
this Order it is holden for a certain rule that the Knighthood followeth
the Collar, and not the Collar the Knighthood.
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SAMPSON Gregory, o' my word, we'll not carry coals.
GREGORY No, for then we should be COLLIERS.
SAMPSON I mean, an we be in CHOLER, we'll draw.
GREGORY Ay, while you live, draw your neck out o' the COLLAR.
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CHAPTER III Part II
OF THE LAUGHABLE CONVERSATION THAT PASSED BETWEEN DON QUIXOTE,
SANCHO PANZA, AND THE BACHELOR SAMSON CARRASCO
<<"I promise thee, Sancho," said Don Quixote, "the author of our
history will be some sage enchanter; for to such nothing that they
choose to write about is hidden."
"What!" said Sancho, "a sage and an enchanter! Why, the bachelor
Samson Carrasco (that is the name of him I spoke of) says the author
of the history is called Cide Hamete Berengena.">>
<<The bachelor, though he was called Samson, was of no great bodily
size, but he was a very great wag; he was of a sallow complexion,
but very sharp-witted, somewhere about four-and-twenty years of age,
with a round face, a flat nose, and a large mouth, all indications
of a mischievous disposition and a love of fun and jokes; and of
this he gave a sample as soon as he saw Don Quixote, by falling on his
knees before him and saying, "Let me kiss your mightiness's hand,
Senor Don Quixote of La Mancha, for, by the habit of St. Peter that
I wear, though I have no more than the first four orders, your worship
is one of the most famous knights-errant that have ever been, or
will be, all the world over. A blessing on Cide Hamete Benengeli,
who has written the history of your great deeds, and a double blessing
on that connoisseur who took the trouble of having it translated out
of the Arabic into our Castilian vulgar tongue for the universal
entertainment of the people!">>
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The Geneva Bible: The Forgotten Translation
http://www.reformed.org/documents/geneva/Geneva.html
<<The Geneva translators produced a revised New Testament in English in
1557 that was essentially a revision of Tyndale's revised and corrected
1534 edition. Much of the work was done by William Whittingham, the
brother-in-law of John Calvin. The Geneva New Testament was barely off
the press when work began on a revision of the entire Bible, a process
that took more than two years. The new translation was checked with
Theodore Beza's earlier work and the Greek text. In 1560 a complete
revised Bible was published, translated according to the Hebrew and
Greek, and conferred with the best translations in divers languages, and
dedicated to Queen Elizabeth I. After the death of Mary, Elizabeth was
crowned queen in 1558, once again moving England toward Protestantism.
The Geneva Bible was finally printed in England in 1575 only after the
death of Archbishop Matthew Parker, editor of the Bishop's Bible.
While other English translations failed to capture the hearts of the
reading public, the Geneva Bible was instantly popular. Between 1560 and
1644 at least 144 editions appeared. For forty years after the
publication of the King James Bible, the Geneva Bible continued to be
the Bible of the home. Oliver Cromwell used extracts from the Geneva
Bible for his Soldier's Pocket Bible which he issued to the army.>>
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<<Dufour followed Calvin to Worms and delivered the formal letter of
invitation signed by the syndics and Council of Geneva: "On behalf
of our Little, Great, and General Councils we pray that you will be
pleased to come over to us, and to return to your former post and
ministry." The letter was fastened with a seal bearing the motto:
"POST TENEBRAS SPERO LUCEM." Calvin was thus most urgently and
most honorably recalled by the united voice of the Council,
the ministers, and the people of that city which had unjustly
banished him three years before.>>
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/library/bps/text/276v.htm
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Thomas Shelton and Hamet Benengeli
by Francis Carr
http://www.sirbacon.org/links/carrq.html
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/legend01/falcon.htm
THE FIRST EDITION OF "DON QUIXOTE." 1605
<<A hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden
from view. Swirling shapes, possibly mist, on one side only, stress the
fact that the falconer is hidden, just out of sight. Around the arm
and the bird is the inscription: POST TENEBRAS SPERO LUCEM after
darkness I hope for light. Beneath the falcon a lion is keeping his eye
on the bird. It could be said that both the lion and the falcon hope for
light after the darkness, for the clear light of day after the dark
night, or a time of impaired vision. The lion could symbolise England;
the falcon could be Cervantes. Who is the falconer?
The inscription takes us to Chapter 68 of the Second Part of Don
Quixote, in which the knight tells Sancho Panza that he too hopes for
light:
O hard heart! oh ungodly Squire! oh ill given bread, and favours ill
placed which I bestowed, and thought to have more and more
conferred upon thee . . . for I post tenebras spero lucem. I understand
not that, said Sancho, only I know that whitest I am sleeping, I
neither feare nor hope, have neither paine nor pleasure.
In Cervantes' text, Quixote follows the words in Latin with a
translation into the vernacular: "after darkness I expect light".
Sancho, however, still says "I don't understand that".
Shelton's version makes sense. It seems that Cervantes' explanation has
been added to help the reader, but it is a mistake, as it makes Sancho's
reply incomprehensible. Was Cervantes' text, in fact, a translation of
Shelton?
The reference to Darkness and Light in the Latin motto on the title page
takes us to one of the central themes of the Rosicrucian doctrines,
which date from the early seventeenth century. One of the six articles
in the Fama Fraternitatis , the Rosicrucian manifesto of 1614, is that
"the Fraternity should remain secret for one hundred years."
In Part 2, ch. 52, Quixote tells an author that "there is need of
infinite light for so many are in the dark.''
A further pointer is to be found in the title page of the first English
edition of Don Quixote, published in 1612, the first appearance of this
work in a foreign language. The name of the publisher, Ed Blounte,
appears at the bottom of the page - but no author's name is given.>>
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On Michelmas September 29...
Sept.29, 106BC, Pompey born
Sept.29, 63BC, Pompey views 'holy of holies'
Sept.28, 48BC, Pompey assassinated
Sept.29, 1066, William the Conqueror invades England
Sept.29, 1187, Saladin marches into Jerusalem
Sept.29, 1227, Pope Gregory IX excommunicates German emperor Frederik II
Sept.29, 1349, People of Krems Austria accuse Jews of poisoning wells
Sept.29, 1364, Battle of Auray, English forces defeat French at Brittany
Sept.29, 1399, King Richard II, the first English monarch to
abdicate, was replaced by (the Earl of Derby)
Henry Bolingbroke (Henry IV).
Sept. 29, 1402 Prince Ferdinand was born to Queen Philippa
[daughter of John of Gaunt]
and King John(JOAO/JUAN) of Portugal
[soon to be victor over the Moors as CEUTA].
Sept.29, 1493 Christopher Columbus leaves Cadiz, Spain,
on his second voyage to the new world.
Sept. 29, 1511 Unitarian MICHAEL SERVENTUS was born in Spain.
He early came in contact with reformers in Germany and
Switzerland, but his views, particularly about the
TRINITY, were condemned by both Roman Catholics
and Protestants. He fled to France, where he gained
fame in medicine. After he had a work on theology
secretly printed (1553), the INQUISITION moved against
him. He escaped from prison, but he was seized in
Geneva, on John CALVIN's order, and tried and burned
there. http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/11716.html
Sept.29, 1513 Balboa discovers the Pacific Ocean.
Sept.29, 1521, Turkish troops occupy Belgrade
Sept.29, 1524, Emperor Charles V's troops give siege of Marseille
Sept.29, 1547 Miguel(MICHAEL) de CERVANTES, born.
Sept.29, 1564, Robert Dudley becomes earl of Leicester
Sept.29, 1567, Huguenots try to kidnap king Charles IX
Sept.29, 1642, De Vere's son-in-law William Stanley (Derby) dies
Sept.29, 1829, Scotland Yard formed
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> I've been reading Dr. John Gill and Matthew Henry [17-18th c.
> Dissident and Puritan Calvinists respectively] against the verses
> in Oxford's Geneva Bible [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
Against the verses in Oxford's Geneva Bible?
> [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
It was Burghley's bible? A gift to Oxford from Burghley?
> and I've really been enjoying their writing. Henry was a very
> warm-hearted writer. He's still popular today. Gill was essentially
> self-taught, throughly mastered Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic--was
> familiar with the Samarian and Persian texts--there are many John Gill
> websites online, some searchable. Gill crosss-referenced each verse
> and added intimidating footnotes on the classics and Hebrew apocrypha.
>
> It's inbelievable what could be accomplished with a 17th century
> brain.
Are Picasso's bulls more sophisticated than Altamira bulls?
http://www.byuh.edu/courses/hum101/slides/GRPA/sld002.htm
http://ebooks.whsmithonline.co.uk/encyclopedia/25/P0008225.htm
http://www.comptons.com/encyclopedia/CAPTIONS/20003105_P.html
Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
The original Nosey Parker, Matthew Parker, was born [in Norwich]
on Aug.6 1504. As Archbishop of Canterbury under Elizabeth I,
he supervised the revision of Cranmer's 42 doctrinal articles
to produce the definitive 39 Articles of Religion
which defined the doctrine of the Church of England.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> A) The Bug Bible, 1551, printed Ps. 91:5,
> "Thou shalt not be afraid of bugs by night."
>
> B) The Breeches Bible, 1560, printed Gen. 3:7,
> "make themselves breeches."
>
> C) The Placemakers' Bible, 1562, printed Matt. 5:9,
> "Blessed are the placemakers."
>
> D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
> "Is there no treacle in Gilead?"
>
> E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
> "Is there no rosin in Gilead?"
>
> F) The Vinegar Bible, 1717, called the parable of
> Luke 20:9-16 " the Parable of the Vinegar."
>
> G) The Printers' Bible, 1702, printed Ps. 119:161,
> "Printers have persecuted me."
>
> H) The Murderers' Bible, 1801, printed Jude 16,
> "These are murderers, complainers."
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> _Finnegans Wake_ -- "Bigamy Bob and his old Shanvocht!
> The Blackfriars treacle plaster outrage be liddled!"
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Transfiguration(/OLD LAMMAS) Day August 6
"Nosey" Parker [Archb. of Cant.] born Aug.6, 1504
Thomas Trussell commits highway robbery Aug.6, 1585
Armada prevented from Dutch reinforcement Aug.6, 1588
Rutland released from Tower Aug.6, 1601
Anne Hathaway's death Aug.6, 1623
Ben Jonson's death Aug.6, 1637
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<<In the afternoon Harcourt and I took the three Liddells up to Godstow,
where we had tea; we tried the game of "The Ural Mountains" on the way,
but it did not prove very successful, and I had to go on with my
interminable fairy-tale of _Alice's Adventures_. We got back soon after
eight, and had supper in my rooms, the children coming over for a short
while. A very enjoyable expedition-the last, I should think, to which
Ina is likely to be allowed to come-her fourteenth time.>>
Neuendorffer
<<JUGGErnaut/Jagannath/Jagannatha, n. [Hind. Jagan-n[=a]th lord of the
world, Skr. jagann[=a]tha.] (Hinduism) A particular form of Vishnu, or
of Krishna, whose chief idol and worship are at Puri, in Orissa. The
idol is considered to contain the bones of Krishna and to possess a
soul. The principal festivals are the Snanayatra, when the idol is
bathed, and the Rathayatra, when the image is drawn upon a car adorned
with obscene paintings. Formerly it was erroneously supposed that
devotees allowed themselves to be crushed beneath the wheels of this
car. It is now known that any death within the temple of Jagannath is
considered to render the place unclean, and any spilling of blood
in the presence of the idol is a pollution.>>
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Richard JUGGE, the Printer
http://www-rcf.csx.cam.ac.uk/Waterbeach/jugge.htm
Richard JUGGE was an eminent printer, who kept a shop at the sign of the
Bible, at the North door of St Paul’s Church, though his residence was
in Newgate market, next to Christ Church. It is thought that he was born
in Waterbeach in Cambridgeshire and he was educated at Eton and King’s
College, Cambridge. He was admitted a freeman of the Stationers’ Company
in 1541 and began to print the New Testament in English, dated 1550.
Ames said he was ‘VERY CURIOUS, in his editions of both the Old and New
Testament, bestowing not only a good letter, but many elegant initial
letters and fine wooden cuts.’ He was one of the original members of the
Stationers’ Company, of which he was chosen Warden in 1560, 1563 and
1566, and Master in 1568, 1569, 1573 and 1574. On the accession of Queen
Elizabeth he became Royal Printer conjointly with Cawood. He survived
Cawood for a few years, in which he enjoyed the privileges of the patent
alone, but he discovered that this was a heavy undertaking. With all the
other work that flowed into his printing house from the patent,
he found difficulty in organizing the production of Bibles. An octavo
Testament took him two years to complete, and whereas Grafton and
Whitchurch had issued seven folio Bibles in three years, JUGGE managed
only two in the same period. This rate of production was unsatisfactory
to the Government and to the Church. after ‘long hearing and debating of
grievances’ JUGGE was instructed to limit himself to the quarto Bible
and to the Testament in sixteenmo.
JUGGE’s device consisted of a massive architectural panel adorned with
wreaths of fruit, etc., and bearing in the centre an oval, within which
is a pelican feeding her young. On the left of the oval stands a female
figure, having a serpent twined round her right arm, who is called on
the tablet beneath her Prudencia, and upon the left is another female
figure with a balance and a sword, called Justicia. JUGGE died in 1577
and his will was proved on 23 October of that year. His business was
carried on by John JUGGE who was probably Richard’s son.
NEW TESTAMENT
The newe Testament of our Saviour Jesu Christe. Faythfully translated
out of the Greke.
London: imprynted by Rycharde JUGGE [1552]
This is Tyndale’s version, revised by JUGGE. It is a copy of the
earliest of three illustrated quarto editions of this version, printed
by JUGGE, and ascribed to the dates 1552, 1553 and 1566. The book
contains new introductions and notes. On the verso of the title page
there is The copy of the byll assigned by the kynges honorable counsell,
for the auctorisinge of this Testamente. This sets the price of unbound
copies at ‘twenty and two pens.’
The illustrations include woodcuts of the Evangelists and Apostles, many
cuts in the Gospels (in one of which the Devil with a wooden leg appears
as the Enemy sowing tares), and 21 cuts in Revelation. There are also
ornamental blocks, initial letters (some flourished), etc. Over one
hundred blocks are used, some of which occur in earlier editions of the
Bible and New Testament.
ROESSLIN, Eucharius
The birth of mankynde
[London: Richard JUGGE], 1565
This work, the first printed textbook for midwives, was originally
published at Strassburg in 1513 with the title Der swangern Frawen und
Hebammen Roszgarten. The author, who died in 1526, was a physician at
Worms and later at Frankfurt-on-Main. He compiled the book mainly from
Soranus of Ephesus’ Gynaecia. It was very popular, and went through
numerous editions and was translated into Dutch, Czech, French, Latin
and English. This English translation by Thomas Raynalde was first
published in 1540 and there were in all seventeen editions of it, the
last in 1654.
The copy belonged to William Herbert, the bibliographer.
BIBLE. Bishops’ version.
The holie Bible conteyning the olde Testament and the newe.
London: imprinted by Richard Iugge, 1568. 2 vols
This is a copy of the first edition of the Bishops’ Bible, a revision of
the Great Bible version, undertaken by Matthew Parker (1504-1575),
Archbishop of Canterbury, with the assistance of many bishops and
well-known Biblical scholars.
In April 1571 the Convocation of the Province of Canterbury ordered that
copies of this edition should be placed in every cathedral, and as far
as possible in every church; and enjoined every ecclesiastical dignitary
to exhibit a copy in a prominent place in his house for the use of his
servants and guests. The cost was 27s 8d per copy, a large sum in those
times.
This has been described as ‘perhaps the most sumptious in the long
series of folio English Bibles’ both for its typography and
illustrations. There are numerous copperplate engravings, including two
engraved title-pages and portraits of the Earl of Leicester and Lord
Burghley, and also several maps, plans and tables.
Extract from: Printing in England - A survey of books by early printers
from William Caxton to Christopher Barker.
Department of Special Collections (Exhibitions) - Glasgow University
Library.
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> Transfiguration(/OLD LAMMAS) Day August 6
> "Nosey" Parker [Archb. of Cant.] born Aug.6, 1504
> Thomas Trussell commits highway robbery Aug.6, 1585
> Armada prevented from Dutch reinforcement Aug.6, 1588
> Rutland released from Tower Aug.6, 1601
> Anne Hathaway's death Aug.6, 1623
> Ben Jonson's death Aug.6, 1637
> --------------------------------------------------------
> On August 6, 1862, Dodgson wrote in his diary:
>
> <<In the afternoon Harcourt and I took the three Liddells up to Godstow,
> where we had tea; we tried the game of "The Ural Mountains" on the way,
> but it did not prove very successful, and I had to go on with my
> interminable fairy-tale of _Alice's Adventures_. We got back soon after
> eight, and had supper in my rooms, the children coming over for a short
> while. A very enjoyable expedition-the last, I should think, to which
> Ina is likely to be allowed to come-her fourteenth time.>>
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charlesphotos.html
<<Dodgson stuttered, was left-handed and asymmetric; his blue eyes were
not at the same level and one shoulder was higher than the other. His
smile was also slightly askew. He was deaf on one ear, suffered from
insomnia and was very thin because he ate only one meal a day. He was of
moderate height. Dodgson was devoted to games as croquet, backgammon,
billiards and chess, enjoyed conjuring and card tricks and invented many
mathematical and word puzzles, games, ciphers and aids to memory.
Dodgson read and posessed lots of books. He had a diary that consisted
of 13 volumes. If he had a particular lucky day (usually when he met a
new little girl) he wrote ‘I mark this day with a white stone'. From
january 1861 until his death in 1898 he kept a register of all the
letters that he wrote. It consisted of 24 volumes and contains 98,721
letters! Dodgson was very interested in photography; he took it up when
it was still in its infancy (1856) and was rather good at it. He ceased
photographing in 1880. He enjoyed sketching or photographing little
girls in the nude, because he thought their naked bodies extremely
beautiful, but he only did this with their mothers' permission and if
the children were completely at ease with it. He made sure that after
his death the pictures would be burned or returned to the mothers.
Dodgson seldom signed his books, and never gave away his portrait. He
also returned letters that were adressed to ‘Lewis Carroll'.>>
<<Hundredths of letters from Dodgson to his child friends have been
kept, but the letters to Alice Liddell have disappeared. Moreover, parts
of his diary which concerned his friendship with Alice, Lorina and Edith
Liddell in the crucial years 1858-1862 are missing. This is called the
Liddell-Riddle.>>
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<<In 1855 Charles Dodgson began to teach at Oxford. The same year, the
dean of the college died and his successor, Henry Liddell arrived at the
Deanery with his wife and four small children... Harry, Lorina, Alice
and Edith. Four more children were born at Oxford: Rhoda in 1858, Violet
in 1864, Eric in 1865 and Lionel in 1868. On 25 April 1856 [240 years
after Shakspere's 25 April 1616 burial!] young Mr Dodgson went to
photograph Christ Church Cathedral. He had no luck with his photographs
of the Cathedral but he did find in the garden the three daughters of
the dean. This was his first meeting with Alice, then a week away from
her fourteenth birthday. Little did he know just how imortant his
friendship with Alice was to be. but he sensed something special about
her from the first day.>>
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The Liddell-Riddle
http://www.student.kun.nl/l.derooy/index.html?alice1e.html
<<Alice Pleasance Liddell was Charles Dodgson’s favourite girlfriend.
She was born on 4 May 1852 and was the 3rd child and second daughter of
the Dean from the Christ Church College in Oxford, Henry George Liddell
('Liddell' is pronounced to rhyme with 'fiddle'). The older brother and
sister were Harry (1848) and Lorina (1849). Her sister Edith was born
two years later, in 1854. Her other brothers and sisters were Rhoda
(1858), Violet (1864), Eric (1865) and Lionel (1868). She had two more
brothers, who died young. It was with Lorina and Edith that Alice went
on the famous boat trip, and these sisters appear in the story too (see
‘story origins’ page).
In 1855 Dean Liddell arrived as new Dean at Christ Church. Dodgson came
in contact with the Liddell’s via the Dean’s niece, Fredrika Liddell,
whom he had sketched. He met the Liddell family in February 1856 during
a train trip. Two months later, on 25 April, he met Alice during a
photosession with his friend Reginals Southey, on which occasion he was
photographing Christ Church Cathedral. He was able to meet her and her
sisters properly on 3 June when he photographed them.
From then on, Alice, Lorina and Edith visited Dodgson regularly, and
Dodgson formed a strong friendship with them, but his relation with Mrs.
Liddell and the Dean was not very heartily. By the latter part of 1856
Mrs. Liddell had asked Dodgson not to take anymore photographs, and he
understood that he was intruding too much. But when the Liddell’s went
on a vacation and left the children in the care of their governess, Miss
Prickett (it was rumoured that Dodgson had an affair with her, but he
wrote in his diary that he thought it ‘so groundless a rumour’), she let
Dodgson visit the children again, and this continued when their parents
returned.
During the period of publishing ‘Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland’,
Dodgson’s relationship with Alice began to diminish; her mother became
concerned about their friendship and limited his access to them. From
July until December 1863 he did not see them at all, and after that he
saw them rarely.
Alice was 20 years old when Prince Leopold (the youngest son of Queen
Victoria) arrived at Christ Church, as an undergraduate from 1872 until
1876. It is rumoured that there was a romance, but Alice was a
‘commoner’ and a marriage was not allowed.
In 1876 Edith died, aged only 22 and just before she was to be married.
This was a huge shock for the family.
In 1880 Alice married Reginald Hargreaves. Dodgson was not present at
her wedding, but did sent her, together with a friend, a present. She
got three sons and lived until her death at the estate Cuffnells in
Hampshire. It’s amusing to know that Alice called her first son Leopold
(Prince Leopold became his godfather) and Leopold called his daughter
Alice… Alice was an educated woman, she painted and moreover lived the
life of a land-lady.
When Alice's husband died in 1928, she needed money to pay death duties
and had to sell her manuscript. Sotheby’s suggested a reserve of only
£4,000, but in the event it fetched £15,400 (an enourmous amount of
money for those days: it was then equivalent to £77,000) and it went to
America.
In 1932, when she was 80, Alice published her memoirs. She also went to
New York because of the centenary of Dodgson’s birth and was made a
Doctor in Literature by Columbia University. This was her last
engagement on behalf of Wonderland, because at that age she got really
exhausted of being ‘Alice in Wonderland’. Alice died on 15 November
1934.
Hundredths of letters from Dodgson to his child friends have been kept,
but the letters to Alice Liddell have disappeared. Moreover, parts of
his diary which concerned his friendship with Alice, Lorina and Edith
Liddell in the crucial years 1858-1862 are missing. This is called the
Liddell-Riddle. The pages were about the following:
Alice and Edith were sent to Dodgson to organize a boat trip to Nuneham.
Dodgson wrote in his diary:"a pleasant expedition, with a very pleasant
conclusion". He wrote this, because he went back by foot with Alice,
Lorina and Edith. Two days later, he sent a letter to Mrs. Liddell
'urging her to send the children over to be photographed', something he
very often did. What happened after that will always be a riddle; after
Dodgson's death, these pages have been ripped out the diary and the
previous page has been altered by another hand to hide the disappearance
of the chapter. The result of these days was the break between Dodgson
and the Liddells. Mrs. Liddell tore up all the letters of Dodgson to
Alice. As mentioned before, Dodgson kept in contact with Alice, but they
saw each other rarely. He sent her his books, with nostalgic dedications
in it.
"Have you guessed the riddle yet?" the Hatter said, turning to Alice
again.
"No, I give it up," Alice replied: "what's the answer?"
"I haven't the slightest idea," said the Hatter.
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http://www.geocities.com/jesusib/LeopoldII.html
<<On Wednesday 27 November 1872, Prince Leopold matriculated in the
Deanery of Oxford becoming a memeber of the University and of the Christ
Church. One of the first great personalities who influenced on Leopold's
student life aqt Oxford was John Ruskin, who was a writer, arti critic,
economist and sociologist. Ruskin longed to transform ordinary people's
life trough art and through his teahing. In the time Leopold was at
Oxford, Ruskin was Professor of Art. He treated the Prince more as a
friend than as a pupil. Leopold was an asiduos visitor to tyhe Deanery
of Christ Church where he became friend of the Dean Reverend Henry
George Liddell and his family. Dean Liddell had five daughters, Lorina,
Alice, Edith, Rhoda and Violet, all of whom Leopold became fond of. It
is said that Leopold fall in love with one of the Liddell girls; it is
unsure if it was Alice or Edith, bot of who were about his same age. In
1876, Edith Liddell, who had recently became engagged to Aubry Harcourt,
leopold's friend, became ill with peritonitis and died on June 26. Alice
Liddell was the girl who inspired Lewis Carrol in his famous tale "Alice
in Wonderland". Lewis Carroll, whose real name was Charles Dodgson was
also a friend of Leopold during his Oxford years. Dodgson was in fact
who inspired Leopold with the Oxford dream when in 1867 he sent thge
young Prince a bundle of autographs and letters, introducing him to the
leading figures of art, literature and Oxford. >>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
<<On August 6, 1623, Anne Hathaway the widow Shakespeare died in
Stratford, seven years after her illustrious husband.
On the same day in Rome, Urban VIII was elected Pope.
He declared Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit order,
to be a saint.>>
Fourteen years later:
<<On August 6, 1637, Ben Jonson died. The King honored Jonson's request
to be buried in Poets Corner with Spenser and Chaucer. But to put Jonson
down, the King required that Jonson be entombed oddly, his body leaned
against the wall of the crypt, not reclining. In The Alchemist, the
servant to some wealthy Londoners who are out of town convinces some
gullible types that he is a confidante of supernatural powers. There
is a scene in which a foolish person is told to sit in the privy
with his mouth stuffed with gingerbread to await an interview
with the Queen of the Fairies.>>
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Godstow Transfiguration on The Ural Mountains
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<<August 6 => Feast of the Transfiguration, marking Jesus' going up on
Mount Tabor and being seen in great radiance by Sts Peter and John,
in the presence of the prophets Elijah and Moses.>>
http://www.nortexinfo.net/McDaniel/0806.htm
On August 6, 1862, Dodgson wrote in his diary:
<<In the afternoon Harcourt and I took the three Liddells up to Godstow,
where we had tea; we tried the game of "The Ural Mountains" on the way,
but it did not prove very successful, and I had to go on with my
interminable fairy-tale of _Alice's Adventures_. We got back soon after
eight, and had supper in my rooms, the children coming over for a short
while. A very enjoyable expedition-the last, I should think, to which
Ina is likely to be allowed to come-her fourteenth time.>>
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"Nosey" Parker [Archb. of Cant.] born August 6, 1504
Thomas Trussell commits highway robbery August 6, 1585
Rutland released from Tower August 6, 1601
Anne Hathaway's death August 6, 1623
Ben Jonson's death August 6, 1637
> life trough art and through his teaching. In the time Leopold was at
> Oxford, Ruskin was Professor of Art. He treated the Prince more as a
> friend than as a pupil. Leopold was an asiduos visitor to tyhe Deanery
> of Christ Church where he became friend of the Dean Reverend Henry
> George Liddell and his family. Dean Liddell had five daughters, Lorina,
> Alice, Edith, Rhoda and Violet, all of whom Leopold became fond of. It
> is said that Leopold fall in love with one of the Liddell girls; it is
> unsure if it was Alice or Edith, bot of who were about his same age. In
> 1876, Edith Liddell, who had recently became engagged to Aubry Harcourt,
> leopold's friend, became ill with peritonitis and died on June 26. Alice
> Liddell was the girl who inspired Lewis Carrol in his famous tale "Alice
> in Wonderland". Lewis Carroll, whose real name was Charles Dodgson was
> also a friend of Leopold during his Oxford years. Dodgson was in fact
> who inspired Leopold with the Oxford dream when in 1867 he sent thge
> young Prince a bundle of autographs and letters, introducing him to the
> leading figures of art, literature and Oxford. >>
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'It is all like a dream now,' [Ruskin] writes.
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Martin Gardner "The Annotated Alice":
<<Some notion of how attractive Alice must have been can be gained from
a passage in /Praeterita/, a fragmentary autobiography by John Ruskin.
Florence Becker Lennon reprints the passage in her biography of Carroll,
and it is from her book that I shall quote.
Ruskin was at the time teaching at Oxford and he had given Alice
drawing lessons. One snowy winter evening when Dean and Mrs Liddell
were dining out, Alice invited Ruskin over for a cup of tea. 'I think
Alice must have sent me a little note,' he writes, 'when the eastern
coast of Tom Quad was clear.' Ruskin had settled in an armchair by a
roaring fire when the door burst open and 'there was a sudden sense of
some stars having been blown out by the wind.' Dean and Mrs Liddell
had returned, having found the roads blocked with snow.
'How sorry you must be to see us, Mr Ruskin!' said Mrs Liddell.
'I was never more so,' Ruskin replied.
The dean suggested that they go back to their tea. 'And so we did,'
Ruskin continues, 'but we couldn't keep papa and mamma out of the
drawing-room when they had done dinner, and I went back to Corpus,
disconsolate.'
And now for the most significant part of the story. Ruskin /thinks/
that Alice's sisters, Edith and Rhoda, were also present, but he isn't
sure. 'It is all like a dream now,' he writes.>>
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Alice did not feel encouraged to ask any more questions about it,
so she turned to the Mock Turtle, and said 'What else had you to
learn?'
'Well, there was Mystery,' the Mock Turtle replied, counting off
the subjects on his flappers, '--Mystery, ancient and modern,
with Seaography: then Drawling--the Drawling-master was an old
conger-eel, that used to come once a week: He taught us
Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Coils.'
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<<The "Drawling-master" who came once a week to the Liddell home to
teach drawing, sketching, and painting in oils to the children was art
critic John Ruskin. Photographs of Ruskin at the time, and a caricature
by Max Beerbohm show him tall and thin, and strongly resembling a
conger-eel. His autobiography [contains] no mention of Lewis Carroll.>>
-- Martin Gardner "More Annotated Alice"
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Measure for Measure Act 3, Scene 2
LUCIO Does BRIDGET paint still, Pompey, ha?
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April 6
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April 6, 1483 RAPHAEL christened.
April 6, 1520 RAPHAEL dies on his 37th birthday,
leaving his 'Transfiguration' unfinished.
April 6, 1528 DURER dies in Nürnberg
April 6, 1584 BRIDGET CECIL/Vere is born.
April 7, 1614 EL GRECO dies.
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C.E. HOUSEMAIDS
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The Comedy of Errors Act 3, Scene 1
DROMIO OF EPHESUS . . . BRIDGET, MARIAN, CICEL . . .
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THE REAL MARYANN
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<<'He took me for his HOUSEMAID,' [Alice] said to herself as she ran.
'How surprised he'll be when he finds out who I am! But I'd
better take him his FAN and GLOVES--that is, if I can find them.'
As she said this, she came upon a neat little house, on the door of
which was a bright brass plate with the name 'W. RABBIT' engraved
upon it. She went in without knocking, and hurried upstairs,
in great fear lest she should meet THE REAL MARY ANN, and be
turned out of the house before she had found the FAN and GLOVES.>>
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The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 2, Scene 2
FALSTAFF ...when Mistress BRIDGET lost the handle of her FAN,
I took't upon mine honour thou hadst it not.
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Romeo and Juliet Act 2, Scene 4
MERCUTIO Now is he for the numbers that PETRARCH flowed in:
LAURA to his lady was but a KITCHEN-WENCH;
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PETRARCH 1st sets eyes on LAURA : April 6, 1327
PETRARCH's LAURA, dies of plague: April 6, 1348
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First historical solar eclipse: April 6, 648 BC
Birth of Jesus Christ?: April 6, 6 BC
the Koran descended to Earth: April 6, 610 AD
Richard the Lion-hearted dies: April 6, 1199
Juliet weaned (Kent EARTHQUAKE): April 6, 1580
BRIDGET Vere's birth: April 6, 1584
Sir Francis Walsingham dies: April 6, 1590
Romeo & Juliet performed?: April 6, 1591
Historian John Stow dies: April 6, 1605
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Romeo and Juliet Act 1, Scene 3
Nurse 'Tis since the EARTHQUAKE now eleven years;
And she was wean'd,--I never shall forget it,--
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
Lewis Carroll, The Annotated Alice
Introduction and Notes by Martin Gardner
<<1. In these prefatory verses Carroll recalls that "golden afternoon"
in 1862 when he and his friend the Reverend Robinson Duckworth (then a
fellow of Trinity College, Oxford, later canon of Westminster) took the
three charming Liddell sisters on a rowing expedition up the Thames.
"Prima" was the eldest sister, Lorina Charlotte, age thirteen. Alice
Pleasance, age ten, was "Secunda," and the youngest sister, Edith, age
eight, was "Tertia." Carroll was then thirty. The date was Friday, July
4, "as memorable a day in the history of literature," W. H. Auden has
observed, "as it is in American history."
The trip was about three miles, beginning at Folly Bridge, near Oxford,
and ending at the village of Godstow. "We had tea on the bank there,"
Carroll recorded in his diary, "and did not reach Christ Church again
till quarter past eight, when we took them on to my rooms to see my
collection of micro-photographs, and restored them to the Deanery just
before nine." Seven months later he added to this entry the following
note: "On which occasion I told them the fairy-tale of Alice's
adventures underground . . ."
Twenty-five years later (in his article "Alice on the Stage," The
Theatre, April 1887) Carroll wrote:
Many a day had we rowed together on that quiet stream —
the three little maidens and I — and many a fairy tale had
been extemporised for their benefit — whether it were at
times when the narrator was "i' the vein," and fancies
unsought came crowding thick upon him, or at times when the
jaded Muse was goaded into action, and plodded meekly on,
more because she had to say something than that she had
something to say — yet none of these many tales got written
down: they lived and died, like summer midges, each in its
own golden afternoon until there came a day when, as it
chanced, one of my little listeners petitioned that the tale might
be written out for her. That was many a year ago, but I
distinctly remember, now as I write, how, in a desperate
attempt to strike out some new line of fairy-lore, I had sent
my heroine straight down a rabbit-hole, to begin with, without
the least idea what was to happen afterwards. And so, to
please a child I loved (I don't remember any other motive), I
printed in manuscript, and illustrated with my own crude
designs — designs that rebelled against every law of
Anatomy or Art (for I had never had a lesson in drawing) —
the book which I have just had published in facsimile. In
writing it out, I added many fresh ideas, which seemed to
grow of themselves upon the original stock; and many more
added themselves when, years afterwards, I wrote it all over
again for publication. . . .
Stand forth, then, from the shadowy past, "Alice," the child of
my dreams. Full many a year has slipped away, since that
"golden afternoon" that gave thee birth, but I can call it up
almost as clearly as if it were yesterday — the cloudless blue
above, the watery mirror below, the boat drifting idly on its
way, the tinkle of the drops that fell from the oars, as they
waved so sleepily to and fro, and (the one bright gleam of life
in all the slumberous scene) the three eager faces, hungry for
news of fairy-land, and who would not be said "nay" to: from
whose lips "Tell us a story, please," had all the stern
immutability of Fate!
Alice twice recorded her memories of the occasion. The following lines
are quoted by Stuart Collingwood in The Life and Letters of Lewis
Carroll:
Most of Mr. Dodgson's stories were told to us on river
expeditions to Nuneham or Godstow, near Oxford. My
eldest sister, now Mrs. Skene, was "Prima", I was
"Secunda", and "Tertia" was my sister Edith. I believe the
beginning of Alice was told one summer afternoon when the
sun was so burning that we had landed in the meadows down
the river, deserting the boat to take refuge in the only bit of
shade to be found, which was under a new-made hayrick.
Here from all three came the old petition of "Tell us a story,"
and so began the ever-delightful tale. Sometimes to tease us
— and perhaps being really tired — Mr. Dodgson would
stop suddenly and say, "And that's all till next time." "Ah, but
it is next time," would be the exclamation from all three; and
after some persuasion the story would start afresh. Another
day, perhaps the story would begin in the boat, and Mr.
Dodgson, in the middle of telling a thrilling adventure, would
pretend to go fast asleep, to our great dismay.
Alice's son, Caryl Hargreaves, writing in the Cornhill Magazine (July
1932) quotes his mother as follows:
Nearly all of Alice's Adventures Underground was told on
that blazing summer afternoon with the heat haze shimmering
over the meadows where the party landed to shelter for a
while in the shadow cast by the haycocks near Godstow. I
think the stories he told us that afternoon must have been
better than usual, because I have such a distinct recollection
of the expedition, and also, on the next day I started to pester
him to write down the story for me, which I had never done
before. It was due to my "going on, going on" and importunity
that, after saying he would think about it, he eventually gave
the hesitating promise which started him writing it down at all.
Finally, we have the Reverend Duckworth's account, to be found in
Collingwood's The Lewis Carroll Picture Book:
I rowed stroke and he rowed bow in the famous Long
Vacation voyage to Godstow, when the three Miss Liddells
were our passengers, and the story was actually composed
and spoken over my shoulder for the benefit of Alice Liddell,
who was acting as 'cox' of our gig. I remember turning round
and saying, "Dodgson, is this an extempore romance of
yours?" And he replied, "Yes, I'm inventing as we go along." I
also well remember how, when we had conducted the three
children back to the Deanery, Alice said, as she bade us
good-night, "Oh, Mr. Dodgson, I wish you would write out
Alice's adventures for me." He said he should try, and he
afterwards told me that he sat up nearly the whole night,
committing to a MS. book his recollections of the drolleries
with which he had enlivened the afternoon. He added
illustrations of his own, and presented the volume, which used
often to be seen on the drawing-room table at the Deanery.
It is with sadness I add that when a check was made in 1950 with the
London meteorological office (as reported in Helmut Gernsheim's Lewis
Carroll: Photographer) records indicated that the weather near Oxford on
July 4, 1862, was "cool and rather wet."
This was later confirmed by Philip Stewart, of Oxford University's
Department of Forestry. He informed me in a letter that the Astronomical
and Meteorological Observations Made at the Radcliffe Observatory,
Oxford, Vol. 23, gives the weather on July 4 as rain after two p.m.,
cloud cover 10/10, and maximum shade temperature of 67.9 degrees
Fahrenheit. These records support the view that Carroll and Alice
confused their memories of the occasion with similar boating trips made
on sunnier days.
The question remains controversial, however. For a well-argued defense
of the conjecture that the day may have been dry and sunny after all,
see "The Weather on Alice in Wonderland Day, 4 July 1862," by H. B.
Doherty, of the Dublin Airport, in Weather, Vol. 23 (February 1968),
pages 75Ð78. The article was called to my attention by reader William
Mixon.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
http://www.student.kun.nl/l.derooy/index.html?alice5.html
1. Origins of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Though Dodgson rarely disclosed the source of his inspirations, it is
likely that the 'Rabbit Hole' is situated in the dining hall in Christ
Church. At the wall to the left of the High Table, the bottom right hand
portrait is of Alice's father. He would have dined at the High Table
with other senior members of the college. After dinner the senior
members did not drop down amongst the undergraduates but went through a
panelled door to the left of Liddell's portrait. Behind this door is a
very narrow spiral staircase which descends to the senior common room,
then to a corridor which emerges out in Tom Quad. Dean Liddell would use
the staircase and appear out in Tom Quad on his way home to the Deanery.
It is thought that it was the inspiration for the Rabbit Hole.
Dean Liddell himself could very well have been the White Rabbit, for the
Dean was always running late too; when Alice was a child, there was no
west entrance to the Cathedral and the Dean would normally have had to
leave the Deanery, walk along Tom Quad, around the Cloisters and into
the Cathedral through the south door. Therefore he was notorious for
being late for services. The present Cathedral Garden then belonged to
one of the Cannons who subsequently gave permission to the Dean to use
the door as a short cut to the Cathedral.
If the hall inspired Dodgson, it might also have been the inspiration
for the famous saying of the Queen of Hearts ('Off with his head!'). For
as one sits at High Table, the portrait of Henry VIII is looking down at
you. And we all know what he is best known for...
In the Tom Tower hangs the bell called Great Tom. At five past nine
every night the bell strikes one hundred and one times, which represents
the original number of Undergraduates at the college. On the last strike
all the Junior members were expected to be back in college. The reason
for ringing at five past nine is that Oxford is five minutes west of
Greenwich. Therefore, five past nine (Greenwich Time) is in fact nine
o'clock in Oxford time. Time was only standardised in Britain with the
coming of the railways and the need for reliable time tables. Christ
Church obviously decided that change was a bad thing and that they would
retain to the old Oxford time. Still to this day the services times in
the Cathedral are five minutes past the hour and the Formal Hall is held
at 7.20 whereas all the other colleges dine at 7.15. Even as a child
Dodgson had a great interest in the railways and invented railway games
using the timetables. Perhaps that is why the White Rabbit was always
running late; he was a Christ Church White Rabbit.
The Liddell sisters are present in the Alice books too. At the end of
the second chapter from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland it says: "There
was a Duck, and a Dodo, a Lory and an Eaglet". The Duck is Canon
Duckworth, the friend that went with them on the boat trip, Lorina is
the Lorry and Edith the Eaglet. Dodo was Charles Dodgson, who had a
slight stutter which made him sometimes give his name as
'Do-do-Dodgson'.
"They were indeed a queer-looking party that assembled on the bank"
(chapter 3) The individuals in this party represent the participants in
an episode entered in Carrol’s diary on June 17, 1862. Carroll took his
sisters, Fanny and Elizabeth, and his Aunt Lucy Lutwidge (the ‘other
curious creatures’) on a boathing expedition, along with Reverend
Duckworth and the three Liddell girls. This is what Carroll wrote in his
diary:
"June 17 (Tu). Expedition to Nuneham. Duckworth (of Trinity) and Ina,
Alice and Edith came with us. We set out about 12.30 and got to Nuneham
about 2: dined there, then walked in the park and set off for home about
4.30. About a mile above Nuneham heavy rain came on, and after bearing
it a short time I settled that we had better leave the boat and walk:
three miles of this drenched us all pretty well. I went on first with
the children, as they could walk much faster than Elizabeth, and took
them to the only house I knew in Sandford, Mrs. Broughton’s, where
Ranken lodges. I left them with her to get their clothes dried, and went
off to find a vehicle, but none was to be had there, so on the others
arriving, Duckworth and I walked on to Iffley, whence we sent them a
fly."
In the original manuscript appear much more details relating to this
experience: the Dodo takes Alice, the Lorry, Eaglet and Duck to a house
where they can dry instead of doing a caucusrace. Carroll later deleted
it because he thought it would have little interest to anyone outside
the circle of the individuals that were involved. (source: Gardner, M.,
The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.44)
When the Mouse tells the driest thing he knows, he's quoting from
Havilland Chepmell's "Short Course of History", 1862, pages 143-144.
Chepmell's book was one of the lesson books studied by the Liddell
children. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.46)
In England the term 'caucus' referred to a system of highly disciplined
party organization by committees. It was often used as an abusive term
for the organization of an opposing party. With the term 'causus race'
Carroll may have poked fun at the committees, as committee members
generally did a lot of running around in circles while they were getting
nowhere.
The Dormouse may have been modelled after Dante Gabriel Rossetti’s pet
wombat, which had a habit of sleeping on the table. Carroll knew the
Rosetti’s and occasionally visited them. (source: Gardner, M., The
Annotated Alice, 1998, p.95)
At the tea party, the Dormouse mentiones a treacle well. The idea of
the treacle well originated from of the legend of St. Frideswide, a
local princess. I'll quote a part of the informative paper: "This story
of the well sounds like a piece of complete nonsense on the part of
Dodgson, however it is, of course, complete logical, for one must always
remember that when the story of Alice was first told, Dodgson was
telling the story to a 10 year old girl. In order to keep her attention
he had to talk about things that she knew and understood, as in the case
of the treacle well. The Frideswide Window tells the story of St.
Frideswide and her flight from Prince Algar. [...] Alice Liddell
witnessed both the making and the installation of the window and was
also familiar with the story of St. Frideswide. [...] The right hand of
the window depicts the scene of Frideswide together with old women
drawing water from a well, this water was then used by Frideswide to
cure illness. This well still exists today (at St. Margaret's Church,
Binsey) and has always been known as a treacle well. The word treacle is
an Anglo-Saxon word which means 'cure all' and this explains why the
sisters at the bottom of the well were very unwell - had they been well
then they would have had no need to go there in the first place. It is
known that Dodgson and Alice had visited the well several times and
there is little doubt that it was the inspiration for the story told by
the Dormouse."
The names of the three little sisters in the Treacle Well (Elsie Lacie
and Tillie) also refer to the names of the three Liddell sisters. Elsie
originated from the initials of Lorina Charlotte, Lacie is a
transformation of Alice, and Tillie was short for Matilda, a name given
to Edith by her sisters. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice,
1998, p. 44 and 100) There are even more references to them; just read
Cathy Dean's text: 'The Duck and the Dodo: References in the Alice books
to friends and family' (you can find it at my 'explanations' page)
Helmut Gernsheim describes in his book 'Lewis Carroll; Photographer' an
incident which could have caused Carroll to use a bat and a tea-tray in
his poem 'Twinkle, twinkle little Bat':
"At Christ Church the usually staid don relaxed in the company of
little visitors to his large suite of rooms--a veritable children's
paradise. There was a wonderful array of dolls and toys, a distorting
mirror, a clockwork bear, and a flying bat made by him. This latter was
the cause of much embarassment when, on a hot summer afternoon, after
circling the room several times, it suddenly flew out of the window and
landed on a tea-tray which a college servant was just carrying across
Tom Quad. Startled by this strange apparition, he dropped the tray with
a great clatter."
However, the bat could also refer to a professor of mathematics at
Oxford, who was a good friend of Carroll’s; he was known among his
students by the nickname ‘the Bat’. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated
Alice, 1998, p.98)
It is said that the Gryphon and the Mock Turtle are Carroll's two
younger brothers Wilfred and Skeffington. The Conger Eel, who taught
Drawling, Stretching, and Fainting in Oils at the bottom of the sea,
probably refers to John Ruskin, who came regularly to the Deanery to
teach Alice and her sisters to draw. Humpty Dumpty is supposed to be the
egg-head Oxford don pontificating, and the Caterpillar could be another
conducting an oral examination.
When the Mock Turtle talks about the courses he took, he mentions
"French, music and washing - extra". This phrase often appeared at
boarding school bills, meaning that there was an extra charge for French
and music, and for having one's laundry done by the school. (source:
Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998, p.128)
When you read closely, you can discover the date on which 'Alice's
Adventures in Wonderland' took
place. The date of the book is 4 May; Alice Liddell's birthday. You know
that becacuse of Alice's
remarks in chapters 6 and 7:
`the March Hare will be much the most interesting, and perhaps as this
is May it won't be raving mad--at least not so mad as it was in March.'
`What day of the month is it?' he said, turning to Alice: he had taken
his watch out of his pocket, and was looking at it uneasily, shaking it
every now and then, and holding it to his ear. Alice considered a
little, and then said `The fourth.'
Alice Liddell was born in 1852, so she was ten in 1862 when the story
was told, but her age in the story probably is seven. We know that
because Through the Looking Glass appears to take place a half year
later (see later on this page) and she's ‘exactly seven and one half
years old’ in that book. The photograph which Carroll pasted at the end
of the manuscript was also taken when she was seven. (source: Gardner,
M., The Annotated Alice, 1998)
2. Origins of Through the Looking Glass
The governess of the Liddell sisters, Miss Prickett, was nicknamed
"Pricks" and could therefore be the prototype of the Red Queen in
Through the Looking-Glass ('one of the thorny kind').
The Sheep in Through the Looking Glass tells Alice that if she buys two
eggs, she has to eat them both. Alice decides to buy only one, for 'they
mightn't be at all nice'. Undergraduates at Christ Church, in Carroll's
day, insisted that if you ordered one boiled egg for breakfast you
usually received two, one good and one bad. (source: The Diaries of
Lewis Carroll, Vol.1, p.176)
In his account of the Kings Messengers' approach (Through the Looking
Glass), Carroll was poking fun at the very earnest Anglo-Saxon
scholarship practised at Oxford in his day, and both his and Tenniel's
renderings of the Messengers' costume and 'attitudes' were almost
certainly taken from one of the Anglo-Saxon manuscripts in Oxford's
Bodleian Library; the Caedmon Manuscript of the Junian codex. Many of
the words in 'Jabberwocky' are also related to Anglo-Saxon ones.
(source: Gardner, M., The
Annotated Alice, 1998, p.279)
The White Knight probably represents Dodgson himself. This can be
derived from the description ('shaggy hair', 'gentle face and large mild
eyes'), his many inventions, and his melancholy song. Therefore, when
the White Knight says good-bye to Alice, who is going to become a Queen,
Dodgson might be saying good-bye to Alice who is going to become a grown
woman.
We can also guess the date when the story 'Through the Looking Glass'
took place. In the first chapter Alice sais that 'tomorrow' there'll be
a bonfire. That means that it is November 4, one day before Guy Fawkes
Day. This holiday was anually celebrated at Christ Church with a huge
bonfire in Peckwater Quadrangle. She also tells Humpty Dumpty that she's
‘exactly seven and one half years old’, so the continuation probably
takes place a half year after the first story, which was dated on May
4th. (source: Gardner, M., The Annotated Alice, 1998)>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
http://www.rldavids.force9.co.uk/dickens2.htm
<<Dickens died at Gad's Hill Place, four months and two days after his
58th birthday, just before 6.00 p.m. on 9 June 1870: 'His eyes were
closed, but a tear welled from under his right eye and trickled down
his cheek. Then he was gone'.
'Dickens was so full of life that it did not seem possible he could
die', Longfellow wrote to Forster. 'I never knew an author's death to
cause such general mourning. It is no exaggeration to say that this
whole country is stricken with grief.' Mary Cowden Clarke read the
telegraphed four words in an Italian newspaper '"Carlo Dickens e morto"
and the 'SUN seemed suddenly blotted out.' 'It is an event world-wide',
Carlyle wrote to Forster, 'a unique of Talents suddenly extinct; and has
"ECLIPSED"...the harmless gaiety of Nations.'
The Times took the lead in demanding that he be buried in Westminster
Abbey rather than Rochester Cathedral where a grave had been prepared.
After Dean Stanley accepted the terms of Dickens's will for an
absolutely private and unannounced funeral the family yielded. The
funeral took place on the morning of 14 June; ONLY TWELVE(!) of his
family and closest friends attended, including Wilkie and Charles
Collins, Frank Beard, John Forster and Dickens's solicitor, Frederic
Ouvry.
In his will Dickens had directed 'that my name be inscribed in plain
English letters on my tomb. I rest my claims to the remembrance of my
country upon my published works and to the remembrance of my friends
upon their experience of me.' Towards evening, Percy Fitzgerald joined
the growing throng and recorded 'There was a wreath of white roses lying
on the flags at his feet, a great bank of ferns at his head, rows of
white and red roses down the sides.' With Forster's permission, Dean
Stanley allowed the grave to remain open for two more days. At dusk
on 16 June (Bloomsday), after the Abbey closed to the public,
Lord Houghton heard that the grave would not be closed until
MIDNIGHT. He was the last to look on the coffin.>>
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BloomsDay of James Joyce's _Ulysses_: June 16, 1904
exactly 301 (52 week-long years)
after Oxford's death June 24, 1604
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42 years before
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_Ulysses_ begins at sunrise (3:33 LMT) Thursday June 16, 1904.
& ends at sunset (-3:33 LMT)
(~ 300 years after Oxford's Thursday death.)
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The Washington Masonic Temple is 333 feet tall.
http://www.cais.com/webweave/masonic.htm
The Eiffel Tower has 5 x 333 steps to the top.
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The Names of the Principall Actors in all these Playes.
333 Letters = 9 x 37 (plays)
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HemmingsAugustinePhillipsWilliamKe m pt
ThomasPoopeGeorgeBryanHenryCondell W il
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CrosseAlexanderCookeSamuelGilburne R ob
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Art Neuendorffer
Elizabeth Weir
> Elizabeth Weir wrote:
>
> > Art. I was just going to try to find something on the Bishop's Bible.
> > [I was wondering why Oxford used a Calvinist Geneva Bible when Oxford
> > wasn't a Calvinist].
>
> Are you sure, Elizabeth?
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Yes, I'm sure Art.
Golding was a Calvinist. The Puritan Burghley was Golding's employer.
The dedication looks like Golding was buttering his bread on both
sides.
There is no indication--other than the testimony of Oxford's castrato
before a panel of the Inquistion--that De Vere had any particular
religion or cared about religion. I have read that De Vere was a
closet Catholic or an atheist or a very nominal Anglican. No one has
accused De Vere of being a Calvinist.
I just browsed an article on religion in Shakespeare and the concensus
of scholars is that Shakespeare was not only very religious but had
great familiarity with the Geneva bible.
Bacon is the only authorship candidate who fits the Strats requirement
of a deep knowledge of the Geneva Bible. He was raised on it. His
mother translated and published Latin works written in Geneva. Bacon
was also enrolled in the C of E at birth by his Anglican father. That
fits Daniel Wrights requirement of 'Anglican elements' in the plays.
> http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment2/ps1-18.htm
>
> THE BOOK OF PSALMS BY JOHN CALVIN
> THE EPISTLE DEDICATORY
>
> [PREFIXED TO THE ORIGINAL TRANSLAT10N, 1571.]
>
> To The Right Honorably And Verie Good Lord,
> EDWARD DE VERE, ERLE OF OXINFORD,
> Lord Great Chamberlain Of England, Vicount Bulbecke, Etc.
>
> ARTHUR GOLDING
>
> To the furtherance wherof, God hath by householde alyance lincked vnto
> your Lordship a long experienced NESTOR,
Golding is referring to Burghley. De Vere is making a household
alliance linked
unto a long experienced Nestor. Nestor was an advisor to kings.
That was one
of three double entendres Johnson wrote in Latin on Shakespeare's
*Parody of A Monument* at Stratford. It was a monument to Bacon just
like Jonson's eulogy in the
FF was an encomium to Bacon. Bacon was a Nestor to Elizabeth and
James.
Bacon was a witty Socratic philosopher, and and a poet like Virgil who
wrote behind a masque.
I haven't tried to find out if the masque was Maro or Virgil
------
Art! It was actually publius virgilius maro--publius the virgin--but
I discovered something astonishing when I was looking it up--a
rhetorical devise used by the Roman poet Tibullus--of course Jonson
would have known Tibullus --jonson was the great classical
rhetorician--I think this is what I have been looking for to explain
the double layers of meaning in Jonson's mock encomium known as the FF
eulogy . Ego and anti-ego.
<http://perso.wanadoo.fr/virgilmurder/Evidence.html>
> whose counsaile and footsteps
> if you folowe, no doubte but you shalbee bothe happie in your selfe, and
> singularly profitable to your common welth; and moreouer, God shall
> blisse you with plentiful and godly issue by your vertuous and
> deerbeloued Spouse, to continew the honor and renoavne of your noble
> house after the happy knitting vp of bothe your yeeres, which I pray God
> may bee many in vnseperable loue, like the loue of Ceix and Alcyonee,
> to the glory of God, and the contentation of bothe your desires.
> Written at London, the 20:of October 1571.
> Your good Lordship’s moste humlble to commaund, Arthur Golding.
None of that happened. Poor Anne Cecil. Burghley sure overreached.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Geneva Bible: The Forgotten Translation
> http://www.reformed.org/documents/geneva/Geneva.html
>
> <<When Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) became queen of England in 1553, she was
> determined to roll back the Reformation and reinstate Roman Catholicism.
> Mary had strong ties to Catholic Spain. She married Philip II of Spain
> and induced the English Parliament to recognize the authority of papal
> Rome. Mary met with a great deal of resistance from Protestant reformers
> in her own country. Mary showed no signs of compromise. The persecution
> of Protestants followed.
>
> The era known as the Marian Exile drove hundreds of English scholars to
> the Continent with little hope of ever seeing their home and friends
> again. God used this exodus experience to advance the Reformation. A
> number of English Protestant divines settled in Calvin's Geneva: Miles
> Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the
> protection of the Genevan civil authorities and the support of John
> Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, the Church of Geneva
> determined to produce an English Bible without the need for the
> imprimatur of either England or Rome - the Geneva Bible.>>
I just read that the KJV was commissioned by James I because he
didn't like the study notes in the margins of the 1599 Geneva Study
Bible. I find them pithy good reading. Lots of little maxims in the
margins.
>---------------------------------------------------------------
> 5) No Knight of this Order shall be armed for the safeguard of his
> countenance with a pike in his mouth in the nature of a tooth-picker, or
> with any weapon in his hand, be it stick, plume, wand, or any such-like:
> Neither shall he draw out of his pocket any book or paper, to read, for
> the same intent; neither shall he retain any extraordinary shrug, nod,
> or any familiar motion or gesture, to the same end; for his Highness of
> his gracious clemency is disposed to lend his countenance to all such
> Knights as are out of countenance.
> ------------------------------------------------
> ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
> SAMPSON I do bite my thumb, sir.
> ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
> SAMPSON [Aside to GREGORY] Is the law of our side, if I say ay?
> GREGORY No.
> ------------------------------------------------
I thought at first the quote below might be some bit from Don Quixote
but I don't
remember it. It looks like it might be Knights of the Helmet by the
same author.
Baconians think Bacon wrote Peter de la Primaudaye's book that argues
that
courtliness improves character--sort of a Calvinist at King Henry's
Court kind of theme. It's publication coincided with Bacon's three
years at the Court of Henry IV.
Naturally Bacon had to turn it into an encyclopedia--the first
encyclopeda in fact.
> 7) No Knight of this Order shall lay to pawn his Collar of Knighthood
> for an hundred pounds; and if he do, he shall be 'ipso facto'
> discharged; and it shall be lawful for any man whatsoever that will
> retain the same Collar for the sum aforesaid, forthwith to take upon him
> the said Knighthood, by reason of a secret virtue in the Collar; for in
> this Order it is holden for a certain rule that the Knighthood followeth
> the Collar, and not the Collar the Knighthood.
Bacon was the only lawyer-courtier in history. A commoner who had to
practice
law to make a living but for some unknown reason made a courtier by
Elizabeth.
If the Knight pawns his collar he shall be 'ipso facto' discharged.'
Funeee.
The whole thing reads like a contract.
'Most Exalted Order of the Star of India, instituted in 1861,
comprised knights grand
commanders, knights commanders, and companions. The collar of the star
consists of links of lotus flowers, red and white roses, and palm
branches.'
You have to imagine corpulent British subjects of the Empire wearing
the Star of Injah
collar since it wasn't for Indians. The Knights collar probably had
the red and white roses on it.
"Two texts from the Vulgate run round the trefoil "In tenebris stravi
lectulum meum Et rursum post tenebras spero lucem" (I have spread my
bed in the darkness [Job 17.13b] and hope for light after the darkness
[Job 17.12b])." <http://www.brassrubbings.com/pages/Page53.html>
That's very Baconian not just in reference to his Bacon's life but for
his project to liberate the human mind from medieval darkness. [See
the Advancement of Learning]. The light and dark metaphors dominated
his writing and appear in the double AA headpiece on the Manes
Verulamiani, the Sonnets and in the KJV.
<http://www.sirbacon.org/aasonnet%20copy.gif>
> Calvin was thus most urgently and
> most honorably recalled by the united voice of the Council,
> the ministers, and the people of that city which had unjustly
> banished him three years before.>>
>
> http://www.abdn.ac.uk/library/bps/text/276v.htm
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Thomas Shelton and Hamet Benengeli
> by Francis Carr
> http://www.sirbacon.org/links/carrq.html
> http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/legend01/falcon.htm
> THE FIRST EDITION OF "DON QUIXOTE." 1605
>
> <<A hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden
> from view. Swirling shapes, possibly mist, on one side only, stress the
> fact that the falconer is hidden, just out of sight. Around the arm
> and the bird is the inscription: POST TENEBRAS SPERO LUCEM after
> darkness I hope for light.
Bacon used the light metaphor 16 times in the short essay 'On Truth.'
Here's a sample:
'. The first creature of God, in the works of the days, was the light
of the sense; the last, was the light of reason; and his sabbath work
ever since, is the illumination of his Spirit. First he breathed
light, upon the face of the matter or chaos; then he breathed light,
into the face of man; and still he breatheth and inspireth light, into
the face of his chosen.'
and in the 'Masculine Birth of Time"
'But generally speaking science is to be sought from the light of
nature, not from the darkness of antiquity.'
> Beneath the falcon a lion is keeping his eye
> on the bird. It could be said that both the lion and the falcon hope for
> light after the darkness, for the clear light of day after the dark
> night, or a time of impaired vision. The lion could symbolise England;
> the falcon could be Cervantes. Who is the falconer?
Oxford of course. Out falconing while Bacon was writing 'Don
Quixote.'
> The inscription takes us to Chapter 68 of the Second Part of Don
> Quixote, in which the knight tells Sancho Panza that he too hopes for
> light:
> O hard heart! oh ungodly Squire! oh ill given bread, and favours ill
> placed which I bestowed, and thought to have more and more
> conferred upon thee . . . for I post tenebras spero lucem. I understand
> not that, said Sancho, only I know that whitest I am sleeping, I
> neither feare nor hope, have neither paine nor pleasure.
> In Cervantes' text, Quixote follows the words in Latin with a
> translation into the vernacular: "after darkness I expect light".
> Sancho, however, still says "I don't understand that".
> Shelton's version makes sense. It seems that Cervantes' explanation has
> been added to help the reader, but it is a mistake, as it makes Sancho's
> reply incomprehensible.
>Was Cervantes' text, in fact, a translation of
> Shelton?
Are you asking me? It may well be. I loved it desperately when I
read it.
I nearly blacked out laughing.
> The reference to Darkness and Light in the Latin motto on the title page
> takes us to one of the central themes of the Rosicrucian doctrines,
> which date from the early seventeenth century. One of the six articles
> in the Fama Fraternitatis , the Rosicrucian manifesto of 1614, is that
> "the Fraternity should remain secret for one hundred years."
> In Part 2, ch. 52, Quixote tells an author that "there is need of
> infinite light for so many are in the dark.''
> A further pointer is to be found in the title page of the first English
> edition of Don Quixote, published in 1612, the first appearance of this
> work in a foreign language. The name of the publisher, Ed Blounte,
> appears at the bottom of the page - but no author's name is given.>>
Ed Blounte.
Yes, well that's a dark moment in Calvinist history. I don't idealize
Calvin.
>
> Sept.29, 1513 Balboa discovers the Pacific Ocean.
> Sept.29, 1521, Turkish troops occupy Belgrade
> Sept.29, 1524, Emperor Charles V's troops give siege of Marseille
> Sept.29, 1547 Miguel(MICHAEL) de CERVANTES, born.
> Sept.29, 1564, Robert Dudley becomes earl of Leicester
> Sept.29, 1567, Huguenots try to kidnap king Charles IX
> Sept.29, 1642, De Vere's son-in-law William Stanley (Derby) dies
> Sept.29, 1829, Scotland Yard formed
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I've been reading Dr. John Gill and Matthew Henry [17-18th c.
> > Dissident and Puritan Calvinists respectively] against the verses
> > in Oxford's Geneva Bible [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
>
> Against the verses in Oxford's Geneva Bible?
>
> > [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
>
> It was Burghley's bible? A gift to Oxford from Burghley?
Yes. I've been reading the Folger Geneva Bible verses and they have
nothing to do with Shakespeare--an admission to that effect was even
made on an Oxfordian website. After nine years--I thought they cut
you off after seven--of wrestling with an unprovable thesis
Stritmatter had to go into Shakespeare, pick verses and work back to
the Geneva Bible to find 'clusters of meaning.' I'm not a
Burghleyphobe like the Strats who fear Burghley because Shakespeare
could not have known him and since I've been reading the Spenserians I
know what a little rotter Oxford was unlike the Oxfordians so it took
me as long as it takes to read Genesis 18:26 to
figure it out.
Burghley had the Geneva Bible annotated for De Vere between the dates
that De Vere killed Thomas Bricknell and married Anne De Vere.
Burghley had to suborn a jury to get De Vere acquitted. Intercession
for mercy in judgment. Read Genesis 18:26. It goes on from there.
I wrote sort of a prelimary post in the 'Reflections on Lunch with
Daniel Wright' thread.
I'ts entitled 'Reflections on Having Daniel Wright for Lunch.'
> > and I've really been enjoying their writing. Henry was a very
> > warm-hearted writer. He's still popular today. Gill was essentially
> > self-taught, throughly mastered Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic--was
> > familiar with the Samarian and Persian texts--there are many John Gill
> > websites online, some searchable. Gill crosss-referenced each verse
> > and added intimidating footnotes on the classics and Hebrew apocrypha.
> >
> > It's inbelievable what could be accomplished with a 17th century
> > brain.
>
> Are Picasso's bulls more sophisticated than Altamira bulls?
I think Picasso's bulls were painted by his inner centaur. I think a
lot
of his other stuff was just bull.
Neuendorffer
> >
> > > Art. I was just going to try to find something on the Bishop's Bible.
> > > [I was wondering why Oxford used a Calvinist Geneva Bible when Oxford
> > > wasn't a Calvinist].
> >Neuendorffer <ph...@erols.com> wrote
> > Are you sure, Elizabeth?
Elizabeth Weir wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm sure Art.
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`That's the way it's done,' the Queen said with great decision:
`nobody can do two things at once, you know. Let's consider your age
to begin with--how old are you?'
`I'm seven and a half exactly.'
`You needn't say "exactually,"' the Queen remarked: `I can
believe it without that. Now I'll give YOU something to believe.
I'm just one hundred and one, five months and a day.'
`I can't believe THAT!' said Alice.
`Can't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. `Try again:
draw a long breath, and shut your eyes.'
Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said: `one CAN'T
believe impossible things.'
`I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen.
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<<In the Tom Tower hangs the bell called Great Tom. At five past nine
every night the bell strikes one hundred and one times, which represents
the original number of Undergraduates at the college. On the last strike
all the Junior members were expected to be back in college. The reason
for ringing at five past nine is that Oxford is five minutes west of
Greenwich. Therefore, five past nine (Greenwich Time) is in fact nine
o'clock in Oxford time.>>
-- http://www.student.kun.nl/l.derooy/index.html?alice5.html
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> Alice twice recorded her memories of the occasion.
> The following lines are quoted by Stuart Collingwood in
> The Life and Letters of Lewis Carroll:
>
> Most of Mr. Dodgson's stories were told to us on river
> expeditions to Nuneham or Godstow, near Oxford. My
> eldest sister, now Mrs. Skene, was "Prima", I was
> "Secunda", and "Tertia" was my sister Edith. I believe the
> beginning of Alice was told one summer afternoon when the
> sun was so burning that we had landed in the meadows down
> the river, deserting the boat to take refuge in the only bit of
> shade to be found, which was under a new-made hayrick.
<<Lady of the Haystack: made her appearance in 1776 at Bourton, near
Bristol. She was young and beautiful, graceful, and evidently accustomed
to good society. She lived for four years in a haystack; but was
ultimately kept by Mrs. Hannah More in an asylum, and died suddenly in
December, 1801. Mrs. More called her Louisa; but she was probably a
of Austria.>> (Brewer 1810–1897. Dictionary of Phrase and Fable)
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Charles Dickens. (1812–1870). David Copperfield.
Opposite me was an elderly lady in a great fur cloak, who looked in
the dark more like a haystack than a lady, she was wrapped up to such a
degree.
A plan had occurred to me for passing the night, which I was going to
carry into execution. This was, to lie behind the wall at the back of my
old school, in a corner where there used to be a haystack. I imagined it
would be a kind of company to have the boys, and the bedroom where I
used to tell the stories, so near me: although the boys would know
nothing of my being there, and the bedroom would yield me no shelter.
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Rosamund
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http://members.tripod.co.uk/troutinn/history.htm
<<Godstow Nunnery, which lies on the opposite bank of the river on the
other side of Trout Island, was also built in 1133, and was consecrated
in 1179 by the Archbishop of Canterbury in the presence of King Henry II
(1133-1198) Always an aristocratic institution, it will be forever
linked with Rosamund the Fair, the tragic heroine of possibly the most
romantic history of any in English legend. Rosamund, daughter of Walter
de Clifford, was the much-loved mistress of King Henry II. He kept her
embowered in a secret garden, defended by his Knight Sir Thomas, and
protected by a labyrinth, the way through could only be found by means
of a silver thread.
In 1175, King Henry left to go to war with his son. Rosamund begged him
to let her go with him, but he refused, as he wished her to lead a life
befitting a lady. Queen Eleanor, furious with jealousy, killed Sir
Thomas, and stole the silver thread from him. She then traced her way
through the maze to find Rosamund, and killed her by forcing her to
drink from a poisoned chalice.
The story varies. Some say that during his travels across England, King
Henry would stay at The Trout Inn, signalling his presence to Rosamund
by placing a lantern in the window. Upon seeing the light, Rosamund
would take passage to The Trout through an underground tunnel to spend
the night with her lover. Queen Eleanor herself placed the lantern in
the window while King Henry was away at war, and when Rosamund emerged
from the secret tunnel, she killed her with a dagger.
No matter how the story varies the story of Rosamund the Fair has been
documented through history, and is a well-established and accepted
story. Rosamund still walks the earth today, and is well know locally as
The White Lady. She visits the Trout regularly, and has been spotted by
the locals and staff. She walks on the original floor of The Trout,
which has since had additional flagstones added to it (stones taken from
the ruins of Godstow Nunnery), and therefore is only seen from the knee
upwards.
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> <<In the Tom Tower hangs the bell called Great Tom. At five past nine
> every night the bell strikes one hundred and one times, which represents
> the original number of Undergraduates at the college. On the last strike
> all the Junior members were expected to be back in college. The reason
> for ringing at five past nine is that Oxford is five minutes west of
> Greenwich. Therefore, five past nine (Greenwich Time) is in fact nine
> o'clock in Oxford time.>>
> -- http://www.student.kun.nl/l.derooy/index.html?alice5.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> `That's the way it's done,' the Queen said with great decision:
> `nobody can do two things at once, you know. Let's consider your age
> to begin with--how old are you?'
> `I'm seven and a half exactly.'
> `You needn't say "exactually,"' the Queen remarked: `I can
> believe it without that. Now I'll give YOU something to believe.
> I'm just one hundred and one, five months and a day.'
> `I can't believe THAT!' said Alice.
> `Can't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. `Try again:
> draw a long breath, and shut your eyes.'
> Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said: `one CAN'T
> believe impossible things.'
> `I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen.
Guy Fawkes Day, 1859 - 101yrs. 5mo. 1 day => June 3, 1758
Jefferson Davis was born June 3, 1808, in Todd county, Kentucky, not
far from the Feb. 12, 1809, Hardin County, Kentucky birthplace of
Abraham Lincoln. [Charles Darwin was born on Feb. 12, 1809 as well.]
http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyAtlas/21219.html
http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyAtlas/21093.html
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Guy Fawkes Day, 1862 - 1yrs. 5mo. 1 day => June 3, 1861
June 3, 1861: "Little Giant", Stephen A Douglas, (Lincoln-debates) dies
& first skirmish of the American Civil War fought at Phillipi, W. Va.
Guy Fawkes Day, 1862 - 700yrs. 5mo. 1 day => June 3, 1162
June 3, 1162: Thomas Becket consecrated Archbishop of Canterbury
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Jeff Davis' grandfather was a Welsh colonist in Virginia and Maryland.
When Davis was a young child, his family moved to Mississippi where he
spent most of his youth until matriculating at Transylvania University
in 1821. He did not complete his studies at Transylvania; instead, a
Mississippi congressman nominated him to West Point. Davis married
Sarah Knox Taylor, daughter of U.S. President Zachary Taylor.
Both Grant & Lee owned horses named Jeff Davis.
Jefferson Davis has also appeared on a couple of United States stamps
(Scott no. 1408, no. 2975f) and a U.S. postal card (Scott no. UX205).
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Arthur Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
> >
> > > Art. I was just going to try to find something on the Bishop's Bible.
> > > [I was wondering why Oxford used a Calvinist Geneva Bible when Oxford
> > > wasn't a Calvinist].
> Neuendorffer wrote:
> > Are you sure, Elizabeth?
Elizabeth Weir wrote:
> Yes, I'm sure Art.
>
> Golding was a Calvinist. The Puritan Burghley was Golding's employer.
> The dedication looks like Golding was buttering his bread on both
> sides.
>
> There is no indication--other than the testimony of Oxford's castrato
If Orazio Cogno (Oxford's 15 year old Venice page/choirboy) was
a castrato then pederasty was probably his last concern.
> before a panel of the Inquistion--that De Vere had any particular
> religion or cared about religion. I have read that De Vere was a
> closet Catholic or an atheist or a very nominal Anglican. No one
> has accused De Vere of being a Calvinist.
Well, if he was never accused of being a Calvinist then he had
absolutely no business reading the Geneva/ 'BREECHES' Bible.
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From a July 2, 1613 letter written by Sir Henry Wotton
(former SPY for ESSEX ;<)
"The King’s players had a new play, called All is True,
representing some principal pieces of the reign of Henry VIII,
. . . .
only one man had his BREECHES set on fire, that would
perhaps have broiled him, if he had not by the benefit
of a provident wit put it out with BOTTLE ALE."
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<<A pleasant tale ascribes the discovery of bottle conditioning to one
Dr. ALEXANDER NOWELL, Dean of St. Paul's Cathedral from 1560 to 1602
and onetime master of Westminster School.>>
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<<Other popular catechisms included Alexander Nowell's moderately
Calvinistic text -- which, in its condensed version (often called
Nowell's "middle" catechism) went through more than forty editions in
Latin and English, beginning in 1570.>>
http://www.shu.ac.uk/emls/03-3/rev_bru2.html
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BOTTLED BEERS, THE PREHISTORY
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/John_Mann/history.htm
<<A problem in looking at the origins of bottled beer is the confusion
between glass and stoneware (or even leather) bottles as we understand
the word and leather drinking vessels called bottels which were in use
in the 16th and 17th centuries. Thus in Ben Jonson's play Bartholomew
Fair (1631), Ursula calls for "A Bottle of Ale to quench me, rascal".
Earlier, when the Globe Theatre burnt down there was a story that the
only casualty was a man whose breeches caught fire, and that he was
saved when a bottle of ale was thrown over them extinguishing the
flames. But in either case, was the bottle a container as we understand
it or a leather drinking mug?
GERVASE MARKHAM, in the English Housewife(1615) advises that ale should
be put into "round bottles with narrow mouths, and then stopping them
close with corks, set them in a cold cellar up to the waist in sand, and
be sure that the corks be fast tied in with strong pack thread, for fear
of them rising out and taking vent, which is the utter spoil of the
ale". This could be a reference to stoneware bottles or to the early
glass "shaft & GLOBE" bottles that were appearing at this time
- so called because of their rounded bodies and long necks.>>
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> I just browsed an article on religion in Shakespeare and the concensus
> of scholars is that Shakespeare was not only very religious but had
> great familiarity with the Geneva bible.
Well, if he was the concensus of scholars then it must be true.
> Bacon is the only authorship candidate who fits the Strats requirement
> of a deep knowledge of the Geneva Bible.
That should be news to Roger Stritmatter.
> He was raised on it. His
> mother translated and published Latin works written in Geneva.
She was a good friend of Calvinist Beza
but not necessarily a Calvinist, herself:
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<<Lady Anne Bacon was the daughter of Sir Anthony Cooke, tutor to Queen
Elizabeth's half-brother before he became Edward VI. She was a woman of
keen intellect with strong Puritan views, although *at all times* a
member of the Church of England.>>
-- http://www.sirbacon.org/links/anne_&_sir_nicholas_bacon.htm
The following is from Alfred Dodd's 1940 book,
"The Marriage of Elizabeth Tudor"
<<Lady Anne Bacon was Sir Nicholas Bacon's second wife. She was the
daughter of Sir Anthony Cooke, governor of Edward VI. The Cooke family
were connected with Stratford, being large landowners. She was a perfect
housewife, as well as being a very clever woman. She had been the tutor
to the young King Edward. She had a strong character and her
accomplishments were many and varied. She was familiar with classical
languages. In her private letters she quotes Latin freely. In her
twenty-second year she translated and published Ochines Sermons from the
Italian. When Francis was two years old she translated from the original
Latin, Bishop Jewels Apology for the Church of England. Her fame as a
literary woman was such that Theodore Beza, years after this, dedicated
to her his Meditations.
She was a deeply religious woman, strictly puritanical...."A very saint
of God," says Francis Bacon in after years. The day started with family
prayers and ended with stories of Classical Adventures, Morality Tales
and the Ancient Myths. Her home shone with the beauty of holiness like a
sanctuary in those dark days of intrigue, hypocrisy, corruption and
vulgar debauchery. Lady Bacon died in 1610, over eighty, "being a little
better than frantic in her old age" says Bishop Goodman. She had been
for years under the care of Francis Bacon.>>
http://www.pillagoda.freewire.co.uk/PLOT.htm
<<[Sir Nicholas Bacon] first married Jane, daughter of William Fernley,
of West Creting, Suffolk, by whom he had three sons and three daughters.
Edward Bacon (who had stayed with Theodore Beza in Geneva) had a house
at Twickenham called Ferie Meade opposite Richmond Palace where Anthony
Bacon, his half-brother, visited him. His other half-brother Francis
owned Twickenham Park.>>
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Théodore De Bčze born St. John's Day: June 24, 1519, Vézelay, Fr.
died Oct. 13, 1605, Geneva
<<French author, translator, educator, and theologian who assisted and
later succeeded John Calvin as a leader of the Protestant Reformation
centred at Geneva. After studying law at Orléans, Fr. (1535–39), Beza
established a practice in Paris, where he published Juvenilia (1548), a
volume of amorous verse that earned him a reputation as a leading Latin
poet. On recovering from a serious illness, he underwent a conversion
experience and in 1548 traveled to Geneva to join Calvin, then deeply
involved with his theocratic reforms of Swiss political and educational
institutions. A year later Beza became a professor of Greek at Lausanne,
where he wrote in defense of the burning of the anti-Trinitarian heretic
Michael Servetus (d. 1553). For several years Beza traveled throughout
Europe defending the Protestant cause. He returned to Geneva in 1558.>>
-- Britannica
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> Bacon
> was also enrolled in the C of E at birth by his Anglican father. That
> fits Daniel Wrights requirement of 'Anglican elements' in the plays.
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http://www.sirbacon.org/links/parentage.htm
A previous owner of Shakespeare's house in Blackfriar's was Anne Bacon.
(Francis' mother) In 1604, her son, Matthew Bacon sold it to
Henry WALKER, who sold it in 1613 to William Shakespeare.
Matthew was admitted to Gray's Inn in 1597.
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> > http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment2/ps1-18.htm
> >
> > THE BOOK OF PSALMS BY JOHN CALVIN
> > THE EPISTLE DEDICATORY
> >
> > [PREFIXED TO THE ORIGINAL TRANSLAT10N, 1571.]
> >
> > To The Right Honorably And Verie Good Lord,
> > EDWARD DE VERE, ERLE OF OXINFORD,
> > Lord Great Chamberlain Of England, Vicount Bulbecke, Etc.
> >
> > ARTHUR GOLDING
> >
> > To the furtherance wherof, God hath by householde alyance lincked vnto
> > your Lordship a long experienced NESTOR,
>
> Golding is referring to Burghley.
Right, but Oxford then went on to become a patron of the
arts/NESTOR/mentor in his own right. Be that as it may, having a mentor
uncle directly dedicate a Calvinist book to you supersedes having a
mother who is friendly with a Calvinist leader IMO. Who owns Francis'
Geneva Bible and is it marked up?
> De Vere is making a household alliance linked
> unto a long experienced Nestor. Nestor was an advisor to kings.
> That was one
> of three double entendres Johnson wrote in Latin on Shakespeare's
> *Parody of A Monument* at Stratford. It was a monument to Bacon just
> like Jonson's eulogy in the
> FF was an encomium to Bacon. Bacon was a Nestor to Elizabeth and
> James.
Elizabeth Stuart, perhaps, but certainly not Elizabeth Tudor.
> Bacon was a witty Socratic philosopher, and and a poet like Virgil who
> wrote behind a masque.
Poets like Virgil die before their work is published and others
[e.g., Tucca & Varius] are assigned to finish & publish it.
Augustus said of HATerius.
IBUerius.
JCVerius.
[Shakespeare] "...had an excellent phantasy, brave
notions, and gentle expressions, wherein he flowed
with that facility, that sometimes it was necessary
he should be stopped: 'Sufflaminandus erat' [He had
to be braked], as Augustus said of Haterius. His
wit was in his own power; would the rule of it had
been so too." -- Ben Jonson
> I haven't tried to find out if the masque was Maro or Virgil.
Or Publius.
> ------
>
> Art! It was actually publius virgilius maro--publius the virgin--
> but I discovered something astonishing when I was looking it up--a
> rhetorical devise used by the Roman poet Tibullus--of course Jonson
> would have known Tibullus --jonson was the great classical
> rhetorician--I think this is what I have been looking for to explain
> the double layers of meaning in Jonson's mock encomium known as the
> FF eulogy . Ego and anti-ego.
>
> <http://perso.wanadoo.fr/virgilmurder/Evidence.html>
<<According to the official version, Virgil had finished the Aeneid,
except the ultima manus, when he decided, instead of publishing it, to
visit the countries where some actions of the poem take place. As he
intended to pass three years in peregrination through Geece and Asia, he
cautiously recommended to his friends to burn the Aeneid in the event of
a fatal accident. His tour was brief: he had only just gone out of the
boat in Greece when he got a fever in visiting the city of Megara sole
feruentissimo. Fortunately, Augustus was there at the time, and he
persuaded the sick poet to return with him in Italy (but, according to
Donatus, Virgil was not yet sick). But the fever rose during the
crossing, and Virgil died in his emperor's arms.>>
<<Shakspear had but two daughters, one whereof Mr. Hall, the physitian,
married, and by her had on daughter married, to wit, the Lady Bernard of
Abbingdon. I have heard that Mr. Shakspeare was a natural wit, without
any art at all; hee frequented the plays all his younger time, but in
his elder days lived at Stratford, and supplied the stage with two plays
every year, and for itt had an allowance so large, that hee spent att
the rate of 1,000 a-year, as I have heard. Shakespeare, Drayton, and
Ben Jonson, had a merie meeting, and itt seems drank too hard, for
Shakespear died of a feavour there contracted. Remember to peruse
Shakespeare's plays; and bee much versed in them, that I may not bee
ignorant in that matter. Whether Dr. Heylin does well,in reckoning up
the dramatick poets which have been famous in England, to omit
Shakespeare.>>
> > whose counsaile and footsteps
> > if you folowe, no doubte but you shalbee bothe happie in your selfe, and
> > singularly profitable to your common welth; and moreouer, God shall
> > blisse you with plentiful and godly issue by your vertuous and
> > deerbeloued Spouse, to continew the honor and renoavne of your noble
> > house after the happy knitting vp of bothe your yeeres, which I pray God
> > may bee many in vnseperable loue, like the loue of Ceix and Alcyonee,
> > to the glory of God, and the contentation of bothe your desires.
> > Written at London, the 20:of October 1571.
> > Your good Lordship’s moste humlble to commaund, Arthur Golding.
>
> None of that happened. Poor Anne Cecil. Burghley sure overreached.
Poor 14 year old Alice Barnham.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The Geneva Bible: The Forgotten Translation
> > http://www.reformed.org/documents/geneva/Geneva.html
> >
> > <<When Mary Tudor (Bloody Mary) became queen of England in 1553, she was
> > determined to roll back the Reformation and reinstate Roman Catholicism.
> > Mary had strong ties to Catholic Spain. She married Philip II of Spain
> > and induced the English Parliament to recognize the authority of papal
> > Rome. Mary met with a great deal of resistance from Protestant reformers
> > in her own country. Mary showed no signs of compromise. The persecution
> > of Protestants followed.
> >
> > The era known as the Marian Exile drove hundreds of English scholars to
> > the Continent with little hope of ever seeing their home and friends
> > again. God used this exodus experience to advance the Reformation. A
> > number of English Protestant divines settled in Calvin's Geneva: Miles
> > Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the
> > protection of the Genevan civil authorities and the support of John
> > Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, the Church of Geneva
> > determined to produce an English Bible without the need for the
> > imprimatur of either England or Rome - the Geneva Bible.>>
>
> I just read that the KJV was commissioned by James I because he
> didn't like the study notes in the margins of the 1599 Geneva Study
> Bible. I find them pithy good reading. Lots of little maxims in the
> margins.
I won't hold my breath for the Weir Version of the Bible then.
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> > 5) No Knight of this Order shall be armed for the safeguard of his
> > countenance with a pike in his mouth in the nature of a tooth-picker, or
> > with any weapon in his hand, be it stick, plume, wand, or any such-like:
> > Neither shall he draw out of his pocket any book or paper, to read, for
> > the same intent; neither shall he retain any extraordinary shrug, nod,
> > or any familiar motion or gesture, to the same end; for his Highness of
> > his gracious clemency is disposed to lend his countenance to all such
> > Knights as are out of countenance.
>
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
> > SAMPSON I do bite my thumb, sir.
> > ABRAHAM Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?
> > SAMPSON [Aside to GREGORY] Is the law of our side, if I say ay?
> > GREGORY No.
> > ------------------------------------------------
>
> I thought at first the quote below might be some bit from Don Quixote
> but I don't
> remember it. It looks like it might be Knights of the Helmet by the
> same author.
Knights of the Helmet by some author.
> Baconians think Bacon wrote Peter de la Primaudaye's book that argues
> that
> courtliness improves character--sort of a Calvinist at King Henry's
> Court kind of theme. It's publication coincided with Bacon's three
> years at the Court of Henry IV.
> Naturally Bacon had to turn it into an encyclopedia--the first
> encyclopeda in fact.
Encyclopederastry?
en·cy·clo·pae·dia, noun [Date:1644. Medieval Latin encyclopaedia course
of general education, from Greek enkyklios + paideia education, child
rearing, from paid-, pais child] a work that contains information on all
branches of knowledge or treats comprehensively a particular branch of
knowledge usually in articles arranged alphabetically often by subject
> > 7) No Knight of this Order shall lay to pawn his Collar of Knighthood
> > for an hundred pounds; and if he do, he shall be 'ipso facto'
> > discharged; and it shall be lawful for any man whatsoever that will
> > retain the same Collar for the sum aforesaid, forthwith to take upon him
> > the said Knighthood, by reason of a secret virtue in the Collar; for in
> > this Order it is holden for a certain rule that the Knighthood followeth
> > the Collar, and not the Collar the Knighthood.
>
> Bacon was the only lawyer-courtier in history. A commoner who had to
> practice
> law to make a living but for some unknown reason made a courtier by
> Elizabeth.
> If the Knight pawns his collar he shall be 'ipso facto' discharged.'
> Funeee.
> The whole thing reads like a contract.
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horse-collar
BARD, n. [F. barde, of doubtful origin.] 1. A piece of defensive
(or ornamental) armor for a horse's neck, breast, and flanks.
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Pawning his Helmet
> 'Most Exalted Order of the Star of India, instituted in 1861,
> comprised knights grand
> commanders, knights commanders, and companions. The collar of the star
> consists of links of lotus flowers, red and white roses, and palm
> branches.'
>
> You have to imagine corpulent British subjects of the Empire wearing
> the Star of Injah
> collar since it wasn't for Indians. The Knights collar probably had
> the red and white roses on it.
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the word "TWEEDLE" was
written at the back of each collar, when she was startled by a
voice coming from the one marked `DUM.'
[Alice] arranged a bolster round the neck of Tweedledee,
`to keep his head from being cut off,' as he said.
`You know,' he added very gravely, `it's one of the most
serious things that can possibly happen to one in a battle
--to get one's head cut off.'
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`This must be the wood, she said thoughtfully to herself,
`where things have no names. I wonder what'll become of MY name
when I go in? I shouldn't like to lose it at all--because
they'd have to give me another, and it would be almost certain to
be an ugly one. But then the fun would be trying to find the
creature that had got my old name! That's just like the
advertisements, you know, when people lose dogs--"ANSWERS TO
THE NAME OF `DASH:' HAD ON A BRASS COLLAR"--just fancy calling
everything you met "Alice," till one of them answered! Only they
wouldn't answer at all, if they were wise.'
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> > SAMPSON Gregory, o' my word, we'll not carry coals.
> > GREGORY No, for then we should be COLLIERS.
> > SAMPSON I mean, an we be in CHOLER, we'll draw.
> > GREGORY Ay, while you live, draw your neck out o' the COLLAR.
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1740 - Westminster statue of Shakespeare installed
by Alexander Pope and (Freemason?) friends:
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/thistles.html
Shakespeare sports (chin in hand) Freemason posture with
a THISTLE and RUE BADGE on his arm.
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"Sweet mercy is nobility's tRUE BADGE." --Shak.
Badge, n. [LL. bagea, bagia, sign, prob. of German origin; cf. AS.
be['a]g, be['a]h, bracelet, collar, crown.] 1. A distinctive mark,
token, sign, or cognizance, worn on the person.
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http://www.heraldica.org/topics/shakespeare.htm mentions:
One instance of rue in heraldry is the collar
of the Order of the Thistle in Scotland, which is made of
alternating sprigs of thistle and rue. Boutell's Heraldry
claims that the words "and rue" are a pun on "Andrew".
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BUR, n. [OE. burre burdock; cf. Dan. borre, OSw. borra, burdock,
THISTLE] 1. Any rough or prickly envelope of the seeds of plants.
"Amongst RUdE burs and THISTLES." --Milton.
The Names of the Principall Actors in all these Playes.
William Shakespeare.
Richard BURBADGE.
The Bug Bible, 1551, printed Ps. 91:5,
"Thou shalt not be afraid of bugs by night."
> That's very Baconian not just in reference to his Bacon's life but for
> his project to liberate the human mind from medieval darkness. [See
> the Advancement of Learning]. The light and dark metaphors dominated
> his writing and appear in the double AA headpiece on the Manes
> Verulamiani, the Sonnets and in the KJV.
>
> <http://www.sirbacon.org/aasonnet%20copy.gif>
Absolutely! Bacon was instrumental in publishing the First Folio &
Don Quixote. But was he the author of either? Was a wheeler-dealer like
Bacon even the author of his own essays?
Hamlet was neither Rosincrantz (Rosicrucians)
nor Guildensterne (Freemasons).
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Three facts directly connect Oxford to Shake-speare:
1) Freud's evaluation that Oxford was a good match for W.S.
2) Ł1,000 a year in Shakespeare/Oxford/Lady Suffolk/Shelton.
3) The evidence of "VERO NIHIL VERIUS" + (Masonic)"G"
in the Sonnet's Dedications: "OUR EVERLIVING"
"HIS EVERLIVING WOR(kes)"
Bacon has nothing to compare with these IMO.
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> > The inscription takes us to Chapter 68 of the Second Part of Don
> > Quixote, in which the knight tells Sancho Panza that he too hopes for
> > light:
> > O hard heart! oh ungodly Squire! oh ill given bread, and favours ill
> > placed which I bestowed, and thought to have more and more
> > conferred upon thee . . . for I post tenebras spero lucem. I understand
> > not that, said Sancho, only I know that whitest I am sleeping, I
> > neither feare nor hope, have neither paine nor pleasure.
> > In Cervantes' text, Quixote follows the words in Latin with a
> > translation into the vernacular: "after darkness I expect light".
> > Sancho, however, still says "I don't understand that".
> > Shelton's version makes sense. It seems that Cervantes' explanation has
> > been added to help the reader, but it is a mistake, as it makes Sancho's
> > reply incomprehensible.
>
> >Was Cervantes' text, in fact, a translation of Shelton?
>
> Are you asking me?
No. This is just a quote (& quite possibly a retorical question).
But you may answer if you like.
> It may well be. I loved it desperately when I read it.
> I nearly blacked out laughing.
Seriously? What did you find that was so funny?
> > > I've been reading Dr. John Gill and Matthew Henry [17-18th c.
> > > Dissident and Puritan Calvinists respectively] against the verses
> > > in Oxford's Geneva Bible [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
> >
> > Against the verses in Oxford's Geneva Bible?
> >
> > > [Burghley picked the verses, not oxford]
> >
> > It was Burghley's bible? A gift to Oxford from Burghley?
>
> Yes.
But Burghley was Oxford's NESTOR!
Is Burghley = Polonius?
> I've been reading the Folger Geneva Bible verses and they have
> nothing to do with Shakespeare--an admission to that effect was even
> made on an Oxfordian website.
Well, case closed then!
> After nine years--I thought they cut
> you off after seven--of wrestling with an unprovable thesis
> Stritmatter had to go into Shakespeare, pick verses and work back to
> the Geneva Bible to find 'clusters of meaning.' I'm not a
> Burghleyphobe like the Strats who fear Burghley because Shakespeare
> could not have known him and since I've been reading the Spenserians I
> know what a little rotter Oxford was
Let's not forget Bacon & Essex.
> unlike the Oxfordians so it took
> me as long as it takes to read Genesis 18:26 to
> figure it out.
>
> Burghley had the Geneva Bible annotated for De Vere between the dates
> that De Vere killed Thomas Bricknell and married Anne De Vere.
> Burghley had to suborn a jury to get De Vere acquitted. Intercession
> for mercy in judgment. Read Genesis 18:26. It goes on from there.
<<And the LORD said, If I find in hlas fifty righteous within the
newsgroup, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.>>
> I wrote sort of a prelimary post in the 'Reflections on Lunch with
> Daniel Wright' thread.
> I'ts entitled 'Reflections on Having Daniel Wright for Lunch.'
Who paid the reckoning?
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Art Neuendorffer
Hyperopic
(Elizabeth Weir) wrote:
>It was actually publius virgilius maro--publius the virgin--
May I say that while "Vergilius" (the classical spelling) and
"virgo/virginis" probably have a common root (something on the lines
of "branch", "offshoot"), Vergilius is very unlikely to have meant
"virgin." It's more like "the man with the staff/rod/scourge."
christian rosencreuz
> nor Guildensterne (Freemasons).
>
Was Rosencrantz Rosencreuz or even associated with the Rosicrucians ?
Given the Fama did not appear until 1610 and Hamlet was performed ten
years before, it seems unlikely, especially given there is a more
prosaic explanation that Rosencrantz and Guildernstern were common
Danish names of the time.
For myself, I tend to prefer the simpler and more logical explanation.
R+C
Neuendorffer
> (Elizabeth Weir) wrote:
>
> >It was actually publius virgilius maro--publius the virgin--
Hyperopic wrote:
>
> May I say that while "Vergilius" (the classical spelling) and
> "virgo/virginis" probably have a common root (something on the lines
> of "branch", "offshoot"), Vergilius is very unlikely to have meant
> "virgin." It's more like "the man with the staff/rod/scourge."
To be fair, the website Elizabeth quoted:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/virgilmurder/Evidence.html
refers to Virgil as <<the priest of Apollo nicknamed "the Virgin">>.
Whether this has anything to do with the similarity in names in unclear.
Art N.
Neuendorffer
> > Hamlet was neither Rosincrantz (Rosicrucians)
> > nor Guildensterne (Freemasons).
> >
christian rosencreuz wrote:
> Was Rosencrantz Rosencreuz or even associated with the Rosicrucians ?
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Many Elizabethans (e.g., Edward Dyer & Francis Bacon)
were Rosicrucians {Rosencrantz => Rosenkreutz}
In Folio's 2,3, & 4 Rosencrantz was ROSINCROSS
[In the first Quarto ROSINCROSS is Rossen(CRAFT)!]
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[In first Quarto (1603) Guildenstern was GILDERSTONE]
Thomas Sackville, Lord Buckhurst, (1536-1608)
the English dramatist that paved the way for Shakespeare.
was Grandmaster Freemason (1561-1567)
{Freemason => Stone Guild => Guildensteen}
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> Given the Fama did not appear until 1610 and Hamlet was performed ten
> years before, it seems unlikely, especially given there is a more
> prosaic explanation that Rosencrantz and Guildernstern were common
> Danish names of the time.
>
> For myself, I tend to prefer the simpler and more logical explanation.
Your's is simpler but not more logical.
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[John] DEE in BREMEN
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<<_Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae_ was first published in Prague
in 1598 under the "privilege and protection" of Rudolph II and
who stayed at the emperor's court as his physician for some time.
The work is described by Frances Yates as forming "a link between
a philosophy influenced by [John] DEE
and the philosophy of the ROSICRUCIAN manifestos".
Khunrath had met [John] DEE in BREMEN in the same year. . .>>
[ http://www.levity.com/alchemy/sendi.html ]
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R.C. DE(fo)E in BREMEN
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ROSENKREUTZ => RO(bin)SON KREUTZnaer => Robinson Crusoe
<<I WAS born in the year 1632, in the city of York, of a good family,
though not of that country, my father being a foreigner of BREMEN,
who settled first at Hull. He got a good estate by merchandise,
and leaving off his trade, lived afterwards at York, from whence he
had married my mother, whose relations were named Robinson, a very
good family in that country, and from whom I was called
ROBINSON KREUTZNAER;
but, by the usual corruption of words in England, we are now called
- nay we call ourselves and write our name - Crusoe;
and so my companions always called me.>>
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_The Chemical Wedding of Christian ROSENKREUTZ 1459_
Daniel Defoe was born in 1659
in CRIPPLEGATE to James Foe, a London BUTCHER.
<<I went on board in an evil hour, the 1st September 1659,
being the same day eight years that I went from my
father and mother at Hull.>>
1st September 1659 - Jupiter/Venus conj. near Regulus.
1st September 1651 - 8 yr. Venus cycle (near Regulus).
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<<One travelling through Stratford upon Avon, a Towne most
remarkeable for the birth of famous William Shakespeare,
and walking in the Church to doe his devotion, espyed a
thing there worthy observation, which was a tombestone laid
more that three hundred years agoe, on which was ingraven
an Epitaph to this purpose, I Thomas such a one, and Elizabeth
my wife here under lye buried, and know Reader I. R. C. and
I. Chrystoph. Q. are alive at this houre to witnesse it.>>
-- _A Banquet of Jeasts or Change of Cheare_(1630)
They were Wizards of O.Z.
P.A.
Q.B.
(I.) R.C. (& I. Chrystoph. Q.)
S.D.
T.E.
U.F.
V.G.
(Mr.) W.H.
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In _The Wizard of OZ_ Dorothy Gale is swept up by a TORNADO
and goes to the Emerald City.
The Emerald Tablets of Hermes Trismegistus
[Robert GREENE had a wife named DOLL/Dorothy]
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Doll Tearsheets
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Gale, n. [Prob. of Scand. origin; cf. Dan. gal furious, Icel. galinn,
cf. Icel. gala to sing, AS. galan to sing, Icel. galdr song, WITCHCRAFT,
AS. galdor charm, sorcery, E. nightingale.] 1. A strong current of air;
a wind between a stiff breeze and a hurricane. The most violent gales
are called TEMPESTS.
<<In this course we passed the line in about twelve days' time, and
were, by our last observation, in seven degrees twenty-two minutes
northern latitude, when a violent TORNADO, or hurricane, took us
quite out of our knowledge.>> - R.C.
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St. Dorothy
According to her apochryphal tradition, she was a resident of Caesarea,
Cappadocia, who when she refused to sacrifice to the gods during Emperor
Diocletian's persecution of the Christians, was tortured by the governor
and ordered executed. On the way to the place of execution, she met a
young LAWYER, Theophilus, who mockingly asked her to send him fruits
from "the garden" she had joyously announced she would soon be in. When
she knelt for her execution, she prayed, and an angel with a basket of
three roses and three apples, which she sent to Theophilus, telling him
she would meet him in the garden. Theophilus was converted to
Christianity and later was martyred. Her feast day (and that of St.
Theophilus the Lawyer) is February 6th.
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KING RICHARD III Act 3, Scene 4
The Tower of London.
GLOUCESTER When I was last in Holborn,
I saw good strawberries in your garden there
I do beseech you send for some of them.
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Christopher Marlowe was born Feb.6, 1564
James II became King on Friday Feb.6, 1685
James' son James (the Old Pretender) was born on June 10, 1688
The next day [June 11, 1688] Robinson Crusoe returned to England.
Five years later R.C. leaves again:
<<We set out on the 5th of February [1693] from Ireland,
and had a very fair gale of wind for some days.>>
The next day [Feb. 6, 1693] the College of William & Mary
was granted its charter in [MOLL Flander's] Virginia colony.
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Art Neuendorffer
christian rosencreuz
> > For myself, I tend to prefer the simpler and more logical explanation.
>
> Your's is simpler but not more logical.
I'll show you that it is. See below.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> [John] DEE in BREMEN
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> <<_Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae_ was first published in Prague
> in 1598 under the "privilege and protection" of Rudolph II and
> who stayed at the emperor's court as his physician for some time.
> The work is described by Frances Yates as forming "a link between
> a philosophy influenced by [John] DEE
> and the philosophy of the ROSICRUCIAN manifestos".
> Khunrath had met [John] DEE in BREMEN in the same year. . .>>
>
> [ http://www.levity.com/alchemy/sendi.html ]
I am aware of this but there is I think no mention of the actual word
'Rosicrucian' until later. I think a rose-cross logo ocurs in Simon
Studion's Naometria in 1586. Luther also had these in his coat of
arms too. I think what Frances Yates is saying is that the current of
ideas that were later called 'Rosicrucian' came from John Dee. But I
am not sure that there is any physical evidence that he used the logo
or wrote of the concept of the Rose-Cross itself ?
Can't see what the relevance of Robinson Crusoe is nor the Wizard of
Oz towards proving your hypothesis.
I think a simple chain of logic is as follows :
Shakespeare wrote a play called Hamlet based in Denmark.
Shakespeare needed Danish names.
Rosencrantz and Guildernstern were two such common names.
Ergo he used them.
No need for Wizards of Oz, Robinson Crusoe or any other additions to
be drawn in to the thing.
R+C
Neuendorffer
> > > For myself, I tend to prefer the simpler and more logical explanation.
> >
> > Your's is simpler but not more logical.
Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
> I'll show you that it is. See below.
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > [John] DEE in BREMEN
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > <<_Amphitheatrum Sapientiae Aeternae_ was first published in Prague
> > in 1598 under the "privilege and protection" of Rudolph II and
> > who stayed at the emperor's court as his physician for some time.
> > The work is described by Frances Yates as forming "a link between
> > a philosophy influenced by [John] DEE
> > and the philosophy of the ROSICRUCIAN manifestos".
> > Khunrath had met [John] DEE in BREMEN in the same year. . .>>
> >
> > [ http://www.levity.com/alchemy/sendi.html ]
Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
> I am aware of this but there is I think no mention of the actual word
> 'Rosicrucian' until later. I think a rose-cross logo ocurs in Simon
> Studion's Naometria in 1586. Luther also had these in his coat of
> arms too. I think what Frances Yates is saying is that the current of
> ideas that were later called 'Rosicrucian' came from John Dee. But I
> am not sure that there is any physical evidence that he used the logo
> or wrote of the concept of the Rose-Cross itself ?
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_The Chemical Wedding of Christian ROSENKREUTZ 1459_
Daniel Defoe was born in 1659
in CRIPPLEGATE to James Foe, a London BUTCHER.
<<I went on board in an evil hour, the 1st September 1659,
being the same day eight years that I went from my
father and mother at Hull.>>
1st September 1659 - Jupiter/Venus conj. near Regulus.
1st September 1651 - 8 yr. Venus cycle (near Regulus).
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You call yourself "christian rosencreuz"
sign your posts "R+C"
and have a deep familiarity with 'Rosicrucians'
and yet you claim:
> I think a simple chain of logic is as follows :
>
> Shakespeare wrote a play called Hamlet based in Denmark.
>
> Shakespeare needed Danish names.
>
> Rosencrantz and Guildernstern were two such common names.
>
> Ergo he used them.
Perhaps, the Rosicrucians (& persons named "christian rosencreuz")
are trying to hide something. :-)
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Many Elizabethans (e.g., Edward Dyer & Francis Bacon)
were Rosicrucians {Rosencrantz => Rosenkreutz}
In Folio's 2,3, & 4 Rosencrantz was ROSINCROSS
[In the first Quarto ROSINCROSS is Rossen(CRAFT)!]
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"Is there no ROSIN in Gilead?"
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http://www.gilanet.com/jrservice/biblef.html
D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
"Is there no TREACLE in Gilead?"
E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
"Is there no ROSIN in Gilead?"
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Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
> Can't see what the relevance of Robinson Crusoe is nor the
> Wizard of Oz towards proving your hypothesis.
Try a little harder R+C:
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R.C. DE(fo)E in BREMEN
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ROSENKREUTZ => RO(bin)SON KREUTZnaer => Robinson Crusoe
<<I WAS born in the year 1632, in the city of York, of a good family,
though not of that country, my father being a foreigner of BREMEN,
who settled first at Hull. He got a good estate by merchandise,
and leaving off his trade, lived afterwards at York, from whence he
had married my mother, whose relations were named Robinson, a very
good family in that country, and from whom I was called
ROBINSON KREUTZNAER;
but, by the usual corruption of words in England, we are now called
- nay we call ourselves and write our name - Crusoe;
and so my companions always called me.>>
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Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
> No need for Wizards of Oz, Robinson Crusoe or any other additions to
> be drawn in to the thing.
>
> R+C
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R.B. Gruelle's interest in the. . . ROSICRUCIANS.
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http://www.nuvo-online.com/97/12/25/cover/
<<Innumerable children's illustrators and writers over the years have
been influenced by Gruelle's whimsical style, most notably one
Theodore S. Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss). In a letter to Patricia Hall,
author of the definitive 1993 Gruelle biography titled Johnny Gruelle,
Creator of Raggedy Ann and Andy, Geisel stated that he was
"deeply indebted" to Gruelle's early humorous cartoons.
Johnny Gruelle was born on Christmas Eve, 1880, in the village of
Arcola, Illinois, the first of three children to his parents Richard
& Alice. Richard, or R.B., Gruelle was a highly regarded landscape
painter who would become one of the celebrated Hoosier Group
artists of the following decade. In the early 1880s, however,
he was a struggling artist in search of better prospects.
The Gruelle home was a congenial meeting place for artists and
writers, and young Johnny grew up surrounded by art, poetry and
storytelling. James Whitcomb Riley, then at the peak of his popularity
as "the Hoosier Poet," was a frequent visitor and regaled the Gruelles
with his homespun anecdotes and folk tales. Riley also occasionally
joined in seances which stemmed from R.B. Gruelle's interest in the
philosophies of the Ancient Mystical Order of the ROSAE CRUCIS,
better known as the ROSICRUCIANS. Throughout his adult life, Johnny
maintained this early fascination with spirituality and psychic
phenomena, often incorporating them into his children's writings.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Neuendorffer
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On Oct. 26, 1604 Kepler's NOVA (very near peak intensity) was
(virtually?) eclipsed by a waxing crescent moon. In the evening (just
above mars & jupiter) the moon, nova, saturn could be observed in in
perfect alignment with the setting sun as diagramed below:
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) * o O
moon nova saturn sun
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Now this is a particularly interesting astronomical pattern for it
is the EXACT mirror image of the star pattern displayed on the 1651
frontispiece (by JOHN Droeshout!) of:
_Truth Brought to Light and Discovered by Time_
"A discourse & Historical Narration of the first
XIIII years of King James reign"
(1651 - the one hundred first year after Oxford's birth)
[The sixth rule of the Rosicrucians, as laid down in the Fama
Fraternitatis of 1614 (the same year Kepler published his hypothesis
about the Star of Bethlehem), demanded anonymity for one hundred years"]
[ http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/truth.html ]
[ http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/truthlg.html ]
where:
1) A MELANCHOLY seated man in Masonic pose holds a skull.
2) ISIS/ISHTAR/mother earth hides the setting sun while standing
beneath clouds forming the initials 'WS'
(compare the "cloud script" with Shakspere signatures at
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~paul/positive.html ) and
3) HORUS/Time/Saturn/ stands upon a skelton with a SPEARE and the
initials 'WS' on his pelvis.
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Note: Isis holds her hand over the sun in order to obscure the TRUE
name of the sun god. The sun god RE had a secret name; anyone with
knowledge of the secret name had power over the sun god. So Isis
collected siliva dribbled to earth by RE and mixed it with clay to form
a serpent. This serpent then bit RE, thereby, poisoning him. Only the
magic of Isis could save RE but she refused to help him until he told
her his secret name. After reeling off a list of fake names, RE finally
relented and told Isis his TRUE name but only after Isis agreed that she
would tell no one except her son Horus.
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Charles II arrived in London to claim the throne
on his 30th birthday, May 29, 1660.
http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon49.html
<<Charles II (1660-85 AD), second son of Charles I and Henrietta Marie
of France, was born May 29, 1630. He spent his teenage years fighting
Parliament's Roundhead forces until his father's execution in 1649, when
he escaped to France. He returned to Scotland in 1650 amid the Scottish
proclamation of his kingship; in 1651, he led a Scottish force of 10,000
into a dismal defeat by Cromwell's forces at Worcester.>>
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Wotton, Sir, Henry (1566 - 1639)
Poet and courtier.
<<Wotton was educated at Oxford, where he became
acquainted with Donne, whose biography he wished to write
(the task actually fell to Izaak Walton, who also wrote a
memoir of Wotton himself). At court Walton became
attached to the Essex faction and performed several
intelligence-gathering tasks for the earl. He was welcomed
by James I at his accession, since Wotton had carried
secret messages to James when he was king of Scotland.
He was given a diplomatic role by the king, and, among
other duties, was ambassador to Venice. Although well
known, it is worth recording Wotton's definition of an
ambassador as an honest man who has to lie when abroad
for the sake of his country. In 1624 he published
The Elements of Architecture, but his many poems were
gathered together after his death, together with Walton's
memoir, as Reliquiae Wottoniae (1651). The lyrical pieces
are characterized by a searching for honest, spiritual
truth, and his panegyric poems--one to his patron,
Elizabeth of Bohemia, is particularly fine
-- appear more honest than many of their kind.>>
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On September 29...
272nd day of year with 93 days left
http://tekka.wwa.com/~mjm/almanac2/september/0929.html
Sept.29, 106BC, Pompey born
63BC, Pompey views 'holy of holies'
Sept.28, 48BC, Pompey assassinated
Sept.29, 1066, William the Conqueror invades England
Sept.29, 1187, Saladin marches into Jerusalem
Sept.29, 1227, Pope Gregory IX excommunicates German emperor Frederik II
Sept.29, 1349, People of Krems Austria accuse Jews of poisoning wells
Sept.29, 1364, Battle of Auray, English forces defeat French at Brittany
Sept.29, 1399, King Richard II, the first English monarch to
abdicate, was replaced by (the Earl of Derby)
Henry Bolingbroke (Henry IV).
Sept.29, 1493 Christopher Columbus leaves Cadiz, Spain,
on his second voyage to the new world.
Sept.29, 1511 Unitarian MICHAEL SERVENTUS born in Spain.
Sept.29, 1513 Balboa discovers the Pacific Ocean.
Sept.29, 1521, Turkish troops occupy Belgrade
Sept.29, 1524, Emperor Charles V's troops give siege of Marseille
Sept.29, 1547 Miguel(MICHAEL) de CERVANTES, born.
Sept.29, 1564, Robert Dudley becomes earl of Leicester
Sept.29, 1567, Huguenots try to kidnap king Charles IX
Sept.29, 1642, De Vere's son-in-law William Stanley (Derby) dies
Sept.29, 1651 Court Martial of James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby
Sept.29, 1829, Scotland Yard formed
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http://www.mcb.net/iom/peelcast.html
<<In 1651 a rising of the Manx against the Royalist Lord of the Isle of
Mann secured its fall, and from that time both the Castle and Cathederal
gradually fell into ruin.>>
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<<James, seventh Earl of Derby, was taken after the rout of
Worcester, tried, and beheaded 15th October, 1651. His lady
survived him till 1663, when she was buried at Ormskirk.>>
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/-------------------\
| |
Elizabeth (JAKOB)|(AYRER) (ESAU)|(AYRER) CHANCELLOR
de Vere --- William Stanley Ferdinando Stanley --- Alice -- THOMAS
| 6th Earl of Derby Lord STRANGE Spencer EGERTON
| 5th Earl of Derby "Shortcake"
Lord STRANGE
James Stanley --- Charlotte de la Tremouille
7th Earl of Derby |
(1607-1651) |
Beheaded |
|
Lady Amelia Ann Sophia Stanley --- John Murray
| 1st Marquess of Atholl
Hugh Fraser |
9th Lord Lovat --- Lady Amelia Murray--- Simon Fraser
(1666-1743) Jacobite martyr
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Art Neuendorffer
christian rosencreuz
> > 'Rosicrucian' until later. I think a rose-cross logo ocurs in Simon
> > Studion's Naometria in 1586. Luther also had these in his coat of
> > arms too. I think what Frances Yates is saying is that the current of
> > ideas that were later called 'Rosicrucian' came from John Dee. But I
> > am not sure that there is any physical evidence that he used the logo
> > or wrote of the concept of the Rose-Cross itself ?
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> _The Chemical Wedding of Christian ROSENKREUTZ 1459_
> Daniel Defoe was born in 1659
> in CRIPPLEGATE to James Foe, a London BUTCHER.
>
> <<I went on board in an evil hour, the 1st September 1659,
> being the same day eight years that I went from my
> father and mother at Hull.>>
> 1st September 1659 - Jupiter/Venus conj. near Regulus.
> 1st September 1651 - 8 yr. Venus cycle (near Regulus).
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> You call yourself "christian rosencreuz"
> sign your posts "R+C"
> and have a deep familiarity with 'Rosicrucians'
> and yet you claim:
>
> are trying to hide something. :-)
The only thing hidden, and actually, it requires no hiding, because it
is so wilfully ignored, is common sense. I just see little need for
going off on such tangents when such a simple, logical explanation is
to be found.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Many Elizabethans (e.g., Edward Dyer & Francis Bacon)
> were Rosicrucians {Rosencrantz => Rosenkreutz}
> In Folio's 2,3, & 4 Rosencrantz was ROSINCROSS
> [In the first Quarto ROSINCROSS is Rossen(CRAFT)!]
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> "Is there no ROSIN in Gilead?"
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.gilanet.com/jrservice/biblef.html
>
> D) The Treacle Bible, 1568, printed Jer. 8:22,
> "Is there no TREACLE in Gilead?"
>
> E) The Rosin Bible, 1609, printed the same verse,
> "Is there no ROSIN in Gilead?"
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
>
> > Can't see what the relevance of Robinson Crusoe is nor the
> > Wizard of Oz towards proving your hypothesis.
>
> Try a little harder R+C:
I am. But merely repeating your points isn't evidence. Do you have
some ?
> The next day [Feb. 6, 1693] the College of William & Mary
> was granted its charter in [MOLL Flander's] Virginia colony.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
>
> > No need for Wizards of Oz, Robinson Crusoe or any other additions to
> > be drawn in to the thing.
Or Dr Suess for that matter.
R+C
Neuendorffer
> > Christian ROSENKREUZ wrote:
> >
> > > No need for Wizards of Oz, Robinson Crusoe
> > > or any other additions to be drawn in to the thing.
>
> Or Dr Suess for that matter.
S-U-E-U-S
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http://www.batcave.net/business/web/elements/runic.html
http://zurix.apana.org.au/asatru/Webpage2/Ftpstone.htm
<<One of the best-known [memorial runestone] is the Kylver stone
(Gotland, ca. 400-450 C.E., thought to be part of a grave chamber),
gives us the whole futhark for the first time, together with the
palindrome "SUEUS", a word which Flowers notes as "generally (being)
interpreted as a palindrome for Gotlandic EUS: 'horse'"
a creature which is certainly most meaningful in Germanic religion,
especially where the dead are concerned.>>
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y-(S-U-A-U-S)-y
yod-(SHIN-VAV-AYIN-VAV-SHIN)-yod
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EXODUS 3:7 YESHUAUHSEY
spells YESHUA both ways-from left to right and right to left.
The adjacent letters to the backwards Yeshua spell,
Elijah backwards Eliyahu
at a skip of 120: Probability = 1/18,851.18
http://members.aol.com/Subbapt/codes3.html
http://www.direct.ca/trinity/yeshuacodes.html
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EXODUS 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of
Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
EXODUS 3:7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my
people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason
of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;
EXODUS 3:8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the
Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good
land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey;
unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the
Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the
Jebusites.
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<<'Toothless, wifeless-ah, never mind. I don't even know what I am any
more-sexually, I mean. Still, Shakespeare's sexual orientation is far
from clear. And then there was Socrates.'>> - _Honey for the Bears_
The idle drone that labours not at all,
Sucks up the sweet of honey from the bee;
Who worketh most to their share least doth fall,
With due desert reward will never be.
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A Midsummer Night's Dream Act 4, Scene 1
BOTTOM Mounsieur Cobweb, good mounsieur, get you your
weapons in your hand, and kill me a red-hipped
humble-bee on the top of a THISTLE; and, good
mounsieur, bring me the honey-bag. Do not fret
yourself too much in the action, mounsieur; and,
good mounsieur, have a care the honey-bag break not;
I would be loath to have you overflown with a
honey-bag, signior. Where's Mounsieur MUSTARDSEED?
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<<At the base of Yggdrasil lie three wells. In the first, Hvergelmir,
lies the dragon Nidhug, who gnaws at the root of the mighty ash. The
second is Urdar, the well of fate. It is guarded by the three Norns:
Skuld (Guilt), Verdandi (Necessity), and Urd (Fate). It is the task of
these three to sprinkle Yggdrasil with water from the well every day in
order to keep the tree healthy and refreshed. The drops falling from the
lower branches become honey. The Norns also weave vast webs of seemingly
haphazard design, as if the final outcomes are unknown to them. The
third well is Mimir's Well, the well of wisdom. It is guarded by Mimir,
the wisest of the Aesir. IT IS FOR A DRINK FROM THIS WELL
THAT ODIN GAVE ONE OF HIS EYES AS PAYMENT.>>
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Art Neuendorffer