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Jan Klee

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May 14, 2003, 4:59:45 AM5/14/03
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I'm not so familiar with Sanskrit, and wondering
if someone can help me out, with the following:

What does "Svabodhanam"mean?
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Thank you (in advance)

Jan

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Phillip Ernest

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May 14, 2003, 10:10:46 AM5/14/03
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"Jan Klee" <jkle...@planet.nl> wrote in message news:<b9t0r7$fp8$1...@reader08.wxs.nl>...

> I'm not so familiar with Sanskrit, and wondering
> if someone can help me out, with the following:
>
> What does "Svabodhanam"mean?

Off the top of my head, I'd say bodhanam is from the causative, so
'awakening' in the active sense, so svabodhanam is 'waking oneself up,
self-awakening'. But no doubt it may have special technical senses.
Everyone out there correct me if I'm wrong.

P

Vidhyanath Rao

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May 18, 2003, 9:08:52 AM5/18/03
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"Phillip Ernest" <phillip...@utoronto.ca> wrote in message
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> "Jan Klee" <jkle...@planet.nl> wrote in message
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> > What does "Svabodhanam"mean?
>
> Off the top of my head, I'd say bodhanam is from the causative,

Words in -ana always have the root vowel in guna, so bodhana- has no
special connection to causative.

Of course, budh, like awaken, be/become aware etc can easily take on
special connotations. So without context, it is hard to say how to
interpret it.

Jan Klee

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May 19, 2003, 1:50:57 PM5/19/03
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"Vidhyanath Rao" <nath...@osu.edu> schreef in bericht
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> Of course, budh, like awaken, be/become aware etc can easily take on
> special connotations. So without context, it is hard to say how to
> interpret it.

Thank you for your answer.

The context can be found in:

"A Buddhist Bible " edited by Dwight Goddard:


....With the discernment of these grand truths and their realization in life
the Bodhisattva became enlightened; he thus attained Sambodhi and became a
Buddha. Rightly has Sambodhi been called Svabodhanam to emphasise the fact
that it cab be accomplished only by self-help without the extraneous aid of
a teacher or an Isvara. ....

JAN
(hoping for your interpretation)


Phillip Ernest

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May 21, 2003, 1:00:10 AM5/21/03
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"Vidhyanath Rao" <nath...@osu.edu> wrote in message news:<ba80nl$ck4$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...

> Words in -ana always have the root vowel in guna, so bodhana- has no
> special connection to causative.

But surely the fact that a root like budh can only have one form of
the nominal in -ana does not mean that there is no semantic
distinction between a regular nominal bodhana, awakening in the
intransitive sense, and a causative nominal bodhana, awakening in the
transitive sense. Surely the morphological identity conceals two
causative meanings, and budh no less than any other root is capable of
generating the full array of causative forms? I am sure that if I
were not so lazy I could immediately support my argument by reference
to Apte or MMW. Am I wrong?

Phillip

eki

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May 21, 2003, 2:33:01 AM5/21/03
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On 20 May 2003 22:00:10 -0700, phillip...@yahoo.ca (Phillip
Ernest) wrote:

>"Vidhyanath Rao" <nath...@osu.edu> wrote in message news:<ba80nl$ck4$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
>
>> Words in -ana always have the root vowel in guna, so bodhana- has no
>> special connection to causative.
>
>But surely the fact that a root like budh can only have one form of
>the nominal in -ana does not mean that there is no semantic
>distinction between a regular nominal bodhana, awakening in the
>intransitive sense, and a causative nominal bodhana, awakening in the
>transitive sense.

Both intransitive and transitive meaning seem possible according to my
dictionary.

Vidhyanath Rao

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May 22, 2003, 10:26:00 AM5/22/03
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"Jan Klee" <jkle...@planet.nl> wrote
in message news:bab6cr$2v0$1...@reader11.wxs.nl...

> Rightly has Sambodhi been called Svabodhanam to
> emphasise the fact that it cab be accomplished only
> by self-help ...

The points seems to be that plain ``bodhana-'' `awakening' is ambiguous
as to voice (as is buddha etc), and so, sva is added make it clear that
it is not due to an external agency.

Nath

Vidhyanath Rao

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May 22, 2003, 10:34:22 AM5/22/03
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"Phillip Ernest" <phillip...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> "Vidhyanath Rao" <nath...@osu.edu> wrote in message
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>
> > Words in -ana always have the root vowel in guna, so bodhana- has no
> > special connection to causative.
>
> But surely the fact that a root like budh can only have one form of
> the nominal in -ana does not mean that there is no semantic
> distinction between a regular nominal bodhana, awakening in the
> intransitive sense, and a causative nominal bodhana, awakening in the
> transitive sense. Surely the morphological identity conceals two
> causative meanings, and budh no less than any other root is capable of
> generating the full array of causative forms?

Yes. But the semantic distinction can be made only by knowing the full
context. In contrast, bodhayati can only mean `awaken someone', while
budhyati can only mean `is awake'. [Complicating things, there are also
bodhati and bodhate.]

Nath

Phillip Ernest

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May 22, 2003, 8:10:34 PM5/22/03
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"Vidhyanath Rao" <nath...@osu.edu> wrote in message news:<baindk$67l$4...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...

> Yes. But the semantic distinction can be made only by knowing the full
> context. In contrast, bodhayati can only mean `awaken someone', while
> budhyati can only mean `is awake'. [Complicating things, there are also
> bodhati and bodhate.]

Yes. svabodhanam seemed most naturally to suggest the reflexive
'awakening oneself'.

Kind regards,

P

xvi000

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May 24, 2003, 11:36:50 PM5/24/03
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MWDic.: n. waking , being awake K‚tyĽr. Su˝r.
That's to say, it's a neut. n. meaning "self-waking".

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Phillip Ernest

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May 28, 2003, 5:24:02 PM5/28/03
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On the other hand it could mean 'good unconsciousness'.

P

Jan Klee

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May 30, 2003, 10:58:44 AM5/30/03
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http://home.planet.nl/~klee0017/Basanta.mp3

As "token" for my appreciation.

Greetings from Holland,

JAN


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