(Temporarily?) no more MacOSX Hugin builds from me

[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi mac users,

Sometimes shit happens :(

Friday evening I baked my macbook. I connected an external USB disk, with it's own power supply, to my macbook. A sharp electrical crackle with an accompanying mini lightning flash and both my macbook and that USB disk died immediately and were completely fried. Both smelled terrible. The power supply of the disk caused some short circuit power in both devices.
A quick repair of my macbook would be at least 400 euro's (main board replacement) but most possibly 500+ euro's. A possibly cheaper repair by cannibalizing parts of other macbooks could be cheaper but take at least a couple of weeks (due to summer holidays and currently missing parts).

I used to be a convinced Linux user until I got to MacOSX in May 2006 when my very old Dell laptop running Linux died. I was given a macbook by someone who likes me very much. That's how my OSX adventure started. Being a Hugin user on Linux, I wanted this on OSX as well. Ippei Ukai was working hard on OSX improvements (and did a very good job) and  he also built bundles. But he did not really keep up "the bundle building" with all the new developments in my opinion. That's why I stepped in, which was also a good way to share the workload.

As mentioned, the repair of my macbook costs more than a new basic model amd/intel "pc" laptop, which is all I currently need and want. That's why I decided to buy such a laptop and get back to Linux (immediately sanitizing the disk from terrible Vista).
I think I want "some" mac back, but it might take months (macbook or iMac?) as I need to decide whether I want the macbook repaired, buy a top model iMac or ..? (and I'm 4 weeks on holiday starting somewhere next week)

It simply means that I will not build hugin bundles anymore for an uncertain time (weeks or months) as I just can't do that on Linux. The "timing" is a bit awkward just before the final 0.8.0 release, but I can't help that.
Someone needs to step in to start building OSX bundles again. I will do everything I can to support the new builder(s), but (again): someone really needs to step in as bundle builder.


FYI: I immediately built the RC5 on Linux again , with all it's whistles and bells.

Note: what bothers me most is my own ImageFuser, which I use frequently and can't use any longer until I have a another mac. And there is no substitute either on Linux. I used to use Kommander occasionally on Linux. Maybe I start a KImageFuser "project" on Linux.

Hoi,
Harry

[phar...@gmail.com]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Harry van der Wolf<hvd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi mac users,
>
> Sometimes shit happens :(

Darn, Harry, I feel terribly for you. Really, I do. I would be
horribly upset were my Mac to suffer a similar fate. All I can do is
offer a few thoughts since I do not have a modern Mac that I could
provide to you.

Look on Craigslist for something used. I got my iMac desktop
machine from Apple as a refurbed unit and saved a goodly amount of
money. I recently obtained a Mac Mini from Apple for a friend of mine
and got it for $400 (US) including a very nice Canon printer. Apple
has deals like this on a occasion. Put Linux on a Mac.

At any rate, I feel for you. Good luck. I'll miss your builds.
And this is happening just as I got back to the list after having to
move in January, getting a new e-mail address and finally getting
around to re-subscribing.

Steve

[Harry van der Wolf]

2009/7/13 phar...@gmail.com <phar...@gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Harry van der Wolf<hvd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi mac users,
>
> Sometimes shit happens :(

 Darn, Harry, I feel terribly for you.  Really, I do.  I would be
horribly upset were my Mac to suffer a similar fate.  All I can do is
offer a few thoughts since I do not have a modern Mac that I could
provide to you.

 Look on Craigslist for something used.  I got my iMac desktop
machine from Apple as a refurbed unit and saved a goodly amount of
money.  I recently obtained a Mac Mini from Apple for a friend of mine
and got it for $400 (US) including a very nice Canon printer.  Apple
has deals like this on a occasion.  Put Linux on a Mac.

 

Here in the Netherlands in Zwolle where I live we luckily have a big Apple service firm which does sell second hand refurbished macs as well. Normally they always have a good set of refurbished machines. Currently they have absolutely nothing and I'll be on holiday for 4 weeks. After that I'll check again (and maybe have to wait longer).

I will see what happens.

Harry

[David Haberthür]

On 13.07.2009, at 21:08, Harry van der Wolf wrote:

Hi mac users,

Sometimes shit happens :(

I also feel for you, Harry! And I hope you'll be able to get back on the mac-track soon, since ImageFuser will be greatly missed!

I am far from making any promises, but I'll try to start to look into building hugin myself, and at least try to update the wiki as I go along...

Habi

[hein]

My condolation, Harry, and good luck with a new Mac eventually! Hening.

[Andrew Kreps]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Harry van der Wolf<hvd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Someone needs to step in to start building OSX bundles again. I will do
> everything I can to support the new builder(s), but (again): someone really
> needs to step in as bundle builder.

I'll step up to the plate. I'm a recent Mac convert and I'm already
building Hugin, Enblend, libpano and autopano-sift-c from CVS, so all
I should need help with is the packaging. Feel free to point me to
the docs and I'll get started as soon as I can.

[phar...@gmail.com]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Andrew Kreps<andrew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll step up to the plate.  I'm a recent Mac convert and I'm already
> building Hugin, Enblend, libpano and autopano-sift-c from CVS, so all
> I should need help with is the packaging.  Feel free to point me to
> the docs and I'll get started as soon as I can.

You are the man!!

Harry, will he be able to post builds to your page?

Steve

[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi Andrew,

Great your doing this. Please note however that building a bundle is quite different from building hugin from cmake for your own mac.

Please read the wiki on: http://wiki.panotools.org/Build_a_MacOSX_Universal_Hugin_bundle_with_Xcode
After reading please let me know if it gives enough information to get you going. I assume you need to come back a few times on details.

The simplest step is to use Ippei's SDK for mac as that one contains all neccessary libraries and binaries. You can find it on his home page. It saves you the time to find and compile all dependent libraries.
http://homepage.mac.com/ippei_ukai/.Public/HuginMacSDK20090228.zip

I will go on holiday next weekend and I don't know whether I have internet access on the campings.

Harry

2009/7/14 Andrew Kreps <andrew...@gmail.com>

[Harry van der Wolf]

2009/7/14 phar...@gmail.com <phar...@gmail.com>

He doesn't have to. I ftp my builds to the ftp server from panotools.org. It looks that they are hosted on my site, but that's not the case (and that's also what I always mention as a footnote in my "publication" mails).
I host them from my site as it contains everything (hugin, autopano plugins, other tools) together on one page making it more clear to users (I hope).

My macbook did an automatic user data rsync every two hours. I have never thought of the password for the panotools server though. We have to contact (not via the mailing list, but privately) one of the admins to get the password for Andrew if he keeps on going.

Harry

[Andrew Kreps]

Thanks, I'll take a look at the page and see how far I get. I have
XCode and MacPorts already, which makes things a bit easier. I'll
keep replying to this thread so we can capture any problems we might
want to document.

[Harry van der Wolf]

Hi Andrew,

when building a bundle, you need to do this outside macports. you need some basic functionality from macports like subversion and msgfmt for the .po to .mo messages, but that's about it. You build all the libraries and hugin itself outside macports.
That's also why I recommended using the mac SDK as that saves you from compiling all the libraries.

Harry

2009/7/16 Andrew Kreps <andrew...@gmail.com>

[Philippe Vanhaesendonck]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:10:21 +0200, Harry van der Wolf <hvd...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> That's also why I recommended using the mac SDK as that saves you from
> compiling all the libraries.

I am in the process of re-compiling the libraries, and I must say: this is
good fun -- I am approximatively half-way, and so far none of them
recompiles out of the box :)

--
Phil.

[Harry van der Wolf]

2009/7/17 Philippe Vanhaesendonck <philippe.va...@e-bulles.be>

That's really strange. The only library "normally" giving problems is boost. Did you follow the wiki correctly and did you read the readme in the mac/Externalprograms directory?

 

Harry

[Michael Galloway]

i was pretty close to having a working OSX build last time harry and i worked
through it (months ago). i'm not able to commit much time now, but later in
summer i could spend some time working with the OSX build system as well.

-- michael

[Philippe Vanhaesendonck]

Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>

> 2009/7/17 Philippe Vanhaesendonck

> I am in the process of re-compiling the libraries, and I must say:
> this is
> good fun -- I am approximatively half-way, and so far none of them
> recompiles out of the box :)
>
> That's really strange. The only library "normally" giving problems is
> boost. Did you follow the wiki correctly and did you read the readme in
> the mac/Externalprograms directory?

Yes, sure ;)

The thing is that some libraries have now more recent versions and the compile
scripts need to be slightly tweaked.

Now my background is mainly Linux, so I need to get used to that 4-way universal
compile stuff.

I am progressing slowly, just because I don't have too much time right now, but
the wiki is well documented and I am sure I can manage it.

--
Phil.